IRC log for #utos on 20090701

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00:40.10undertakingyouIRC meeting in T minus 20 minutes.
00:46.57herlois here
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00:47.31undertakingyouand herlo and I are here.
00:47.39herlo:)
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01:00.14penoFINAL COUNTDOWN
01:00.23herloyay!
01:00.24herloit's time!
01:00.28penoFIGHT!
01:00.40undertakingyouok, time to check in.
01:00.43undertakingyoudecriptor: ping
01:00.47undertakingyouHeartsbane: ping
01:00.53undertakingyoumindjuju: ping
01:01.01undertakingyouutahcon: ping
01:01.31penois here, but doesn't count
01:01.36herlopeno: you count...
01:01.46peno!
01:01.57undertakingyouwe are missing bmac, memilyrae, Jayce, and Thom Allen.
01:02.10herlothey sent regrets?
01:02.17undertakingyouno, no emails.
01:02.25undertakingyouNo one ever responds to my email.
01:02.28mindjuju~apb undertakingyou
01:02.29infobotACTION summons Dog the Bounty Hunter to stake out undertakingyou
01:02.34undertakingyouSo, I am now the guy that gets ignored.
01:02.38undertakingyouYAY!!!!
01:02.51undertakingyounow we have a positive count from mindjuju, herlo and
01:02.54mindjujuoh, are we suppose to ignore you
01:03.08mindjuju<PROTECTED>
01:03.10peno<PROTECTED>
01:03.15HeartsbaneHere
01:03.16mindjuju:)
01:03.20mindjuju^5 peno
01:03.24undertakingyou:)
01:03.25utahconpong
01:03.30herloundertakingyou: he's mastergunns, i'll see if he can come in
01:03.36undertakingyouawesome. hearts is here.
01:03.40utahconThom Allen will be out due to birthday.
01:03.52undertakingyouI thought that was July 14th
01:03.58utahconmy bad
01:03.59undertakingyouAnd so he wouldn't make the in person meeting.
01:04.06undertakingyou:) its ok utahcon
01:04.27herlohe's getting texted as i Jayce and bmac
01:04.40undertakingyouyou Jayce and bmac?
01:04.49utahconherlo: has had a long day
01:04.50herlos/i /is /
01:05.30*** join/#utos mastergunns (n=mastergu@67.177.20.164)
01:05.51herlowhat about decriptor ??
01:05.57undertakingyouhi mastergunns ! How are you?
01:06.03HeartsbaneWhat about decriptor ?
01:06.05herlo:)
01:06.12herlotexts him too
01:06.29mastergunnshey
01:06.30Heartsbanesorry [sarcasm] What about decriptor [/sarcasm]
01:06.31mastergunnshere I am
01:06.39mastergunnssorry guys
01:06.50herlomastergunns: you are there! :) reply to your text
01:06.53undertakingyouno worries.
01:06.59mastergunnsherlo: I just did
01:07.03herlo:)
01:07.09herlomastergunns: I was replying to you :)
01:07.15mastergunnsoh
01:07.16mastergunns:)
01:07.24HeartsbaneSo someone start us off with a dirty joke
01:07.40utahcon<facepalm>
01:07.42herlobobby feel in the mud
01:07.57herlodecriptor is covered in oil
01:08.02utahconhe then took a bath with bubbles
01:08.09herlobubbles was the girl next door
01:08.19herlodecriptor will send an email
01:08.36utahconwonders the type of oil...
01:08.44utahconmotor, vegetable...
01:09.09herlothinks motor
01:09.19herlobut it could most definitely be peanut
01:09.27utahconI couldn't think of a nice way to say "sex oil"
01:09.29undertakingyouHeartsbane: start with the dirty joke and then we will get on with it.
01:09.37herlomassage!!
01:09.42herlomassage! get with it :)
01:09.52herloutahcon: ^^ that's for you!
01:09.57utahconthanks
01:10.02herloanymtime
01:10.14herloor anyctime
01:10.16Heartsbaneundertakingyou: can we just start instaed
01:10.29herloanyatime works as well, but it is usually not used due to performance issues
01:10.30undertakingyouok.
01:11.04undertakingyouThis meeting is to return and report on any activities related to the conference.
01:11.19herlow00t! I got turned down by Zenoss this week
01:11.21undertakingyouParticularly with regards to keynotes and sponsorships.
01:11.36undertakingyouWe will do this alphabetically.
01:11.37undertakingyouHeats is first.
01:11.43undertakingyouHeartsbane: is first.
01:11.47herlooh, by nick?
01:11.52undertakingyouYes.
01:11.53herlois second in line then...
01:11.57undertakingyoutrue.
01:12.07herlowe should really start with cardinal
01:12.11herlohe's there at the top
01:12.35HeartsbaneI am going to try and grab lunch with emily tomorrow and swing by and talk to macnewbold
01:12.52HeartsbaneGRX still hasn't replied
01:13.17cardinalI hope being at the top is a good thing?
01:13.49HeartsbaneI guess
01:13.51undertakingyouHeartsbane: awesome. Any other progress this week?
01:14.07Heartsbanestill no word from my keynote idea
01:14.22herlocardinal: it is :)
01:14.28HeartsbaneI am not going to try and spell his last name
01:14.33herlocardinal: you get to report on your sponsorship finds and your keynotes...
01:14.46Heartsbanewho is cardinal?
01:14.55herlodoesn't know off hand
01:14.57cardinalJustin De Vries .
01:15.01undertakingyou<PROTECTED>
01:15.02herlohe was just at the top of hte list
01:15.06herlohi Justin
01:15.09Heartsbanehey Justin
01:15.10cardinalHello.
01:15.24herloHeartsbane: he's not a core team member (yet)
01:15.29undertakingyouHearts, anything else to report?
01:15.32HeartsbaneDo we still want to try and shoot for the next meeting at miller Campus
01:15.34cardinalis have fun getting some VM set up in XEN.
01:15.52herlohttp://www.plug.org/user/288 <-- cardinal's profile
01:16.00herloHeartsbane: yes I think so
01:16.30undertakingyouherlo: if you are ready to get down to business, you are next.
01:16.33HeartsbaneWho wants to contact Randy Schouten
01:16.49herloHeartsbane: haha, why do we need to talk with him?
01:16.56herloHeartsbane: can't we just *go* there?
01:17.10HeartsbaneWell the building might be locked
01:17.23herloor did you want to actually look at the rooms
01:17.29mastergunnsHeartsbane: I think that would be great, takes an item off my list if we do.
01:17.30herloI guess that would make sense.
01:17.41herlopoints to mastergunns as a volunteer
01:17.52mastergunnsI talked to the lady ay the MC, and she said we could go any time and look.
01:18.03mastergunnsbut if we wanted a tour it would have to be during business hours.
01:18.13herlomastergunns: did they have business hours that we would have to confine our look?
01:18.16HeartsbaneI think it would be a good idea to let them know...
01:18.18herlowhat were those hours?
01:18.25mastergunns8-4:30
01:18.31herlothat's not helpful
01:18.34mastergunnsI know
01:18.41utahconFree Enterprise closes early.
01:18.55herloit's government at its best
01:18.56HeartsbaneYes my point exactly
01:19.04herlomastergunns: ??
01:19.12mastergunnsyes?
01:19.13herlowanna try to get us an appt
01:19.23herlois taking notes btw...
01:19.28herlounless mindjuju is
01:19.34mastergunnsI was there today. the nice lady said any time. I will schedule one. what is the best time?
01:19.54HeartsbaneWhich nice lady
01:20.32Heartsbaneanytime after 4PM werqz for me
01:20.37mastergunnsJulie Eason
01:20.47Heartsbaneshe is a hottie
01:20.51mindjujuherlo, up to you
01:20.57mindjujui can del mine
01:21.02herlomindjuju: I got it
01:21.06mindjujuk
01:21.18herlois after 6pm
01:21.47HeartsbaneCan we get David Moss to come this meeting
01:21.53undertakingyoudepends if I am on call or not.
01:21.58Heartsbanejust a suggestion
01:21.59undertakingyousure Heartsbane, email him.
01:22.18Heartsbanek
01:22.31herloHeartsbane: I'll email Dm
01:22.49HeartsbaneI am done if mastergunns is going to make the appointment
01:23.35mastergunnsdoesn't matter to me. if you know Julie go for it.
01:23.54mastergunnsor someone else there. I'm not partial either way.
01:24.00HeartsbaneI guess I will
01:24.09mastergunnsCool. You're the man
01:24.36undertakingyousweet, so that is settled.
01:24.38Heartsbane<insert dramatic pause here>
01:24.47Heartsbanewhoops missed it
01:24.47undertakingyouHeartsbane: email the list with details.
01:25.00undertakingyounow, herlo. Go.
01:25.02herlokk
01:25.05herloso here's what I did
01:25.12herloI created a new updates app for conman
01:25.43herloit allows us to go into the admin section of the app and update the 'center' portion of the header and it sends twitter updates too
01:25.55herlothe reason I bring this up is that we can do 'announcements' from there
01:26.11herlothus, when we decide to announce the 'Stormy Peters' keynote, I can do it there
01:26.17herloor mindjuju or whoever
01:26.20herloanyway
01:26.25herloI bombed with Zenoss
01:26.45undertakingyouwhy did Zenoss bomb?
01:26.47herloI emailed kde, eff too...
01:26.54herlothey turned us down for this year...
01:27.06undertakingyouboth?
01:27.09herlobut they said they'll put us on the budget for next year.  They were too streched
01:27.28herloyeah kde is interested, haven't heard back from eff, since I figured double email might help us
01:27.38herlokde is passing it on to their 'events' list
01:27.58undertakingyouok, did you contact Amy with EFF?
01:28.02herloDidn't do anythign with LinuxPro mag yet, but I'll get the art over to Rikki sometime this week...
01:28.11undertakingyouthinks her name is Amy.
01:28.15herloundertakingyou: no, I just sent it to the general 'contact' link on that site
01:28.34herloI realized after I sent it that you had done that, but figure it couldn't *hurt*
01:28.34undertakingyouI have a better email for the person in charge of their booths and stuff.
01:28.41herloyah
01:28.43herlogo for it
01:28.43undertakingyouOk, very good.
01:29.02herloI need to follow up with sun and get contacts for HP.
01:29.02undertakingyousince you have contacted KDE should we contact gnome?
01:29.08herloI want to make a suggestion...
01:29.38undertakingyouwaits
01:29.47herlosorry, kids at door
01:29.55herloShaun is out playing...
01:30.23herloso I think we need to make a list on the wiki of the contacts we have made.  I'll start a page right now...
01:30.31utahcongreat idea
01:30.52herlohttp://wiki.utos.org/Sponsorship_Contacts
01:32.08utahconshould that be a protected page?
01:32.16mindjujuprolly
01:32.23herloprobably
01:32.31utahconat least until it is all public infos
01:32.32herloI'll protect it and add you all as accessors
01:32.37herlohere's the thing though
01:32.37utahconmaybe same with keynotes
01:32.45herlomost people don't have access to write to this wiki anyway
01:33.00herlowe only give out accounts to those who either request or we know need them
01:33.18herloutahcon: do you mean private?
01:33.29utahcondifference?
01:33.32herloI've edited the page...
01:33.39utahconI am more worried about eyes we don't want to see it
01:33.43mindjujuprivate i think won't show, even to registered users
01:33.52herloutahcon: the diff is that only certain people can see it with private.  with protected, it's just uneditable by certain folks
01:34.11herlomindjuju: yeah, except those we allow.  I need to set up a 'admin' group anyway...
01:34.12mindjujuoh, i was thinking private
01:34.15herlo:)
01:34.21utahconprivate would be good then
01:34.28herlokk, I'll work on that this week
01:34.44mastergunnsis eating hot buttered popcorn. sorry, not sharing.
01:34.54herloheh
01:35.09herlookay, so back to my things
01:35.27herloI think the GOED money is on its way now, they verified address and phone number iwth me the other day
01:35.35utahconwill make sure to attend the next irc mtg at mastergunns house
01:35.53undertakingyoutoo.
01:35.59herloI need to follow up with several others will try to do so this week
01:36.12herlodid not contact maddog but will try to do so this week as well
01:36.54undertakingyousweet.
01:37.10herlois done
01:37.33undertakingyoumastergunns: your up.
01:37.38mastergunnsoh
01:37.39undertakingyouAnything to return and report?
01:37.48undertakingyous/your/you're/
01:37.54mastergunnsyes
01:37.59mastergunnstyping it now :)
01:38.15fizzundertakingyou: hey. long time no see.
01:38.19fizzhow's the con coming?
01:38.23mastergunnsI talked with Danielle at TEKSystems, they are on board with the job fair and a $300 sponsorship
01:38.44herlomastergunns: send me info and I'll send them a bill.
01:38.47undertakingyoufizz: slow but sure. But we have made some good progress.
01:38.55undertakingyoumastergunns: SWEET!!!
01:39.22fizzundertakingyou: excellent. i havent paid attention at all, when is the call for papers?
01:39.27mastergunnsI also talked with and visited 4 hotels near the LHM center, we can get 30 rooms blocked, no cost, and only pay for the ones we use. That was only one hotel. The others weren't really happy to do that.
01:39.31herlomastergunns: push them for a higher sponsorship if you can.  I'd really like to see them at least get a booth...
01:39.36utahconfizz: cfp is open'
01:39.40undertakingyoufizz: it started.
01:39.55mastergunnshrelo: I did. I think we'll actually be lucky to get a check for the $300. But I'll push as best I can.
01:39.57undertakingyousee http://2009.utosc.com for more info.
01:40.02fizzNEVER
01:40.21fizzthat's a porn spambot website.
01:40.27herlomastergunns: which hotel?
01:40.47utahconwhich hotels, I will add them to the map (once I figure it all out)
01:41.10herlomastergunns: did we get a discounted rate ??
01:41.22mastergunnsI also talked with KFORCE and Professional Recruiters about attending the job fair and sponsorships, they are in for the job fair, thinking about the sponsorships. I still need to contact someone at Omniture about the job fair.
01:41.36mastergunnsherlo: residence inn
01:41.43mastergunnshelo: oh yes
01:42.02herlomastergunns: I think I mentioned this to you, but the job fair isn't going to be free.  I think at least a $300 sponsorship should be required...
01:42.12mastergunnsthe LHM center has a rate with the hotel already, but I'm gewing her down even more. she asked me too!
01:42.20herlomastergunns: awesome!
01:42.24utahconwould we be interestedin Galileo Processing at the job fair, they are pushing hard for tech ppl
01:42.33herloyes
01:42.44mastergunnsherlo: you did mention that. I forgot. I'll get back with those companies again. my bad.
01:42.50utahconI will hit them up then
01:42.53herlomastergunns: nw, just we need the money too...
01:43.03mastergunnsI'm sure.
01:43.36utahconI will contact SOS Staffing this week too
01:43.38mastergunnsthats really all I have. I'll have more on the geek dinner and community day probably by next meeting
01:43.46herlomastergunns: sweet!
01:44.44mastergunnsnot sure whos up next
01:44.53utahconmindjuju: you're up
01:44.53mindjujuprolly me
01:44.56herlo:)
01:45.07undertakingyouyes, mindjuju you are up.
01:45.17*** topic/#utos by herlo -> meeting notes - http://wiki.utos.org/20090630_Meeting
01:45.35mindjujui talked with Ryan Stewart of Adobe about presenting on Open Source, he's bumping me up to the director of open source initiatives at adobe to see if he will speak or find somebody to present
01:45.44herloawesome!
01:45.51mindjuju:)
01:46.02undertakingyouthat would be way cool.
01:46.02herlomindjuju: was that a keynote suggestion?
01:46.13mindjujunot necessarily
01:46.19herlokk, just checking
01:47.02undertakingyoumindjuju: any other great news?
01:47.27herlowill take 'okay' news
01:47.28mindjujunope, that s it
01:47.58undertakingyouwill take any news.
01:48.06undertakingyouthanks victor, we appreciate that.
01:48.13undertakingyouKeep us posted on the adobe thing.
01:48.27undertakingyoucrap, I think we are to me now.
01:48.41undertakingyouOk, I emailed the EFF this week.
01:48.44undertakingyouHaven't heard back yet.
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01:48.59herlohehe
01:49.02undertakingyouStill haven't heard back from Tim, but I will email him again tonight or tomorrow.
01:49.11herlotim riker, right?
01:49.23undertakingyouAnd I have not had a chance to email my new sponsorship contacts, but I will before the next meeting.
01:49.27undertakingyouyes, tim Riker.
01:49.47herlokk
01:49.58undertakingyouand for me that is all.
01:50.07undertakingyouutahcon: your turn.
01:50.20herloutahcon, you are going to kcik all are asses, I know it
01:50.25utahconI made attempts at talking with Microsoft Open Source, getting no feedback from them yet.
01:50.25herlos/ci/ic/
01:50.59undertakingyouI didn't know microsoft had such a section.
01:51.05utahconit is true
01:51.15mindjujuyeah
01:51.27utahconThey are apparently really looking to put a foot out in these conferences too (according to their PR folks)
01:51.36utahconso I am pushing for a top Sponsorship there.
01:51.41undertakingyouWell, lets see what happens.
01:51.46utahconhopefully get some presentations from them too
01:51.58utahconSadly, that is all I have to report at this time.
01:52.00herlooh, btw, we have tons of presentations submitted :)
01:52.10utahconI will be making a call/email to SOS Staffing, and Galileo as mentioned earlier.
01:52.23mastergunnsutahcon: right on!
01:52.33herlo23 submitted abstracts at last count
01:52.43utahconand that is all I have at this time.
01:53.04herloZzzz...
01:53.07undertakingyouutahcon: are you going to use the googlemap api for the map you elluded too?
01:53.15herloalluded :)
01:53.15utahconoh yes
01:53.41undertakingyouI did a little google api for work. If you want I can help, or just shutup. Whatever you want.
01:53.53herlooh ja
01:54.05utahconI will take anything you can offer.
01:54.29utahconWe are going to start hacking on conman when this is over... feel free all to pick and issue and knock out a patch
01:54.44herlohttp://code.google.com/p/utos-conman :)
01:54.48utahcons/and/an/
01:54.58undertakingyouwell, you can see what I did at http://www.larkinmortuary.com/sched_d.php
01:55.03herloclick 'issues' :)
01:55.12utahconhttp://code.google.com/p/utos-conman/issues
01:55.16undertakingyouIt is simple, but gets the job done.
01:56.16utahconcool, I will look through that and take what I can
01:56.20undertakingyouok, does anyone have anything else that they want to share or ask?
01:56.21herloundertakingyou: did you see my pm?
01:56.27utahconI need to make an admin side of the map too, which is my real hangup
01:56.32undertakingyouyes.
01:56.34undertakingyouI saw it.
01:56.35herlokk, cool
01:56.43mindjujui wanted to share with heartsbane that I decided to install all my apps using apt-get
01:56.48herlolol
01:56.49mindjujuor the gui tool
01:56.52utahconroflmao
01:57.04utahconstill prefers source :D
01:57.18herloutahcon: use gentoo!
01:57.23utahconI love gentoo
01:57.26utahconI hate emerge
01:57.28herlowill have the irc log up shortly
01:57.36herlobut you *love* da source
01:57.39undertakingyousweet.
01:57.47utahconwould make love to source if it were in female form
01:57.55DexterTheDragonutahcon: use linux from scratch
01:58.04utahconDexterTheDragon: I like source... not pain
01:58.10undertakingyouok, we have officially derailed.
01:58.12utahconbut... been there done that
01:58.12undertakingyouMeeting over
01:58.16undertakingyouThanks for the reports.
01:58.26mindjujuc ya'll
01:58.29mastergunnslater
01:58.37Heartsbanelater
01:58.37undertakingyounext in person meeting is the 14th.
01:58.53undertakingyouBut can we have another IRC meeting in one week?
01:59.00mastergunnsI'll send over an email report for you to discuss at the meeting.
01:59.03undertakingyouanother return and report?
01:59.51utahconYo mastergunns where is your place so I can get some popcorn next time>
02:00.03Heartsbanespecial thanks decriptor, I enjoyed your report most all
02:00.10Heartsbanelater all
02:00.12utahconok I am going to watch for volunteers in the issues
02:00.48undertakingyouafx
02:00.49mastergunnshehe, come over. its hot and delic
02:01.42herlowill be at the meeting in one week
02:02.01utahconI will be there
02:02.05utahconare the irc meeting
02:02.18utahconso... not really there... but here... or ... damnit I don't know
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02:03.13mindjujustarts to spin Metallica S&M concert
02:05.22herlohttp://wiki.utos.org/20090630_IRC_Log
02:05.27herlofor your info...
02:06.14*** topic/#utos by herlo -> Utah Open Source - http://utos.org | UTOSC 2009 Call for Papers open - http://2009.utosc.com | Hacknight going on *every* night - join #utos-dev and ask how to participate
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15:53.32macnewboldnathandelane: did you find your ssl answer yet? generally I've seen it done by using header() to redirect to an https url.
15:59.22nathandelanenot yet...So I just redirect using a header call?
16:22.03macnewboldyeah, that's the usual way of doing it.
16:22.18macnewboldonce you redirect to the https url, you'll see the HTTPS variables showing up in $_SERVER, etc.
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