IRC log for #utos on 20090420

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01:39.25herlomindjuju1: ping
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04:30.27herlohttp://libre.fm/
04:32.41undertakingyouwow, that is opensource hardcore.
04:32.54undertakingyouWhen last.fm is to closed source for you what is the world coming too?
04:32.56undertakingyouto?
04:34.38herloexactly
04:34.45herloI just saw a blog post about it
08:29.33GateThe compiz rotate cube effect has an oddly hypnotic effect when you can't sleep
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17:54.53undertakingyouherlo: ping
17:55.00herloundertakingyou: pong
17:55.54undertakingyoucan I ask a favor of you?
17:56.42herlouh, maybe
17:56.44herlo:)
17:57.01undertakingyouCan I see the Bio that you sent to Phil?
17:57.05herloif it is  'hold this $10k for me' I'll be happy
17:57.06undertakingyouI guess he needs one from me
17:57.11undertakingyouAnd I've never done that.
17:57.13herloyep.  Sure...
17:58.52herloundertakingyou: so... no money?
18:00.12undertakingyouSorry no money.
18:00.27herloargh!
18:00.27undertakingyouI don't think I told you. I have to replace my furnace and ductwork.
18:00.35undertakingyouSo I need all the money I can get.
18:00.36herloundertakingyou: oh, that sux0rz
18:00.44herlowhat happened?
18:01.08undertakingyouWe called in some people to clean it. They said it needs to be replaced.
18:01.14undertakingyouThe furnace is 27 years old.
18:01.16undertakingyouTo big
18:01.17herlodid you call nearings?
18:01.22herloneerings
18:01.27undertakingyouAnd didn't have enough airflow
18:01.32undertakingyouNo Pond's.
18:01.34herlohas two bro's that work there and probably would do it for you as a side job
18:01.47herlothey always are looking for work
18:01.48undertakingyouThey are up north, I have used them before.
18:01.57undertakingyouWell, I guess it wouldn't be bad to get a second bid.
18:02.11undertakingyouThey are coming over tomorrow night to give us a bid.
18:02.16herloprobably not, do you want my bro to call you?  I have good references for you about it..
18:02.17undertakingyouPond's that is.
18:02.26undertakingyouSure
18:02.28herloit's up to you
18:02.28herlok
18:02.48herlolet me give him a call and see when he is available and if he's interested in it.  If not that bro, maybe the other one
18:03.20undertakingyouok.
18:03.23undertakingyouI have to run for work
18:03.24undertakingyouTTYL
18:03.26herlok
18:03.36herloI've emailed my bio
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22:30.27herlowhiteinge: ping - re registration code :)
22:30.40whiteingeherlo: pong
22:30.42herlohttp://code.google.com/p/scalereg/
22:31.00whiteingehey neat
22:31.05herlowhiteinge: ^^ this code is the stuff from the Southern California Linux Expo.  It's what they use to do their registration
22:31.18herloI'd like to upgrade and integrate it into our system....
22:31.52herlowe could call it festmangler or something!
22:32.33whiteingeherlo: I read the README, but don't have time to eyeball the code right now. What's the quick version of ours vs. theirs?
22:33.37whiteingenevermind, their is tiny
22:33.56whiteingetheirs*
22:33.56herloours is more fully complete.  Theirs focuses mainly on registration only, has some other bits and pieces.  Includes badge printing, payment integration and check-in.  However, it's not up to django 1.0 yet either
22:34.40whiteingeherlo: sounds like exactly what we need. i hope we can just drop it in as a reusable app...
22:34.44herloI think it's not all up on the site yet...  He mentioned something about the code *starting* to come online
22:34.50whiteingeah
22:35.18whiteingeI'll pull it down and take a look when I can.
22:35.25herlowhiteinge: I would *actually* like to integrate it into our system like we're doing.  It could be many reusable apps, like you mentioned, that we combine...
22:36.00herlowhiteinge: I'm going to check it out tonight and have a look see.  I'm going to try to get it running too.
22:38.10herlolooks like a lot of it went up at midnight today
22:39.47whiteingeunless there's a compelling reason, I think we should keep 3rd-party apps separate from our codebase.
22:41.23herlowhiteinge: there's a compelling reason
22:41.35whiteingewuzzat?
22:41.38herlowhiteinge: this code is to become a community effort beyond UTOSC
22:41.59herlowe're going to be having other conference teams get involved in dev
22:42.41herloI hope to have groups from NMLF, SELF, SCaLE, UTOSC and others help us get this to be a very usable, fast and integrated system for managing an entire conference.
22:43.11whiteingelike Pinax. i'm with 'ya.
22:43.16herloI'm really close to making an announcement on linuxfests.org
22:43.20herlowhiteinge: yeah...
22:43.41herloer linuxfest.org
22:46.48whiteingeherlo: even still, I think those reusable apps should live outside our codebase in their own repos. once we pull 'em in to ours they cease to be reusable and getting changes from upstream is a hassle
22:47.42herlowhiteinge: well, maybe we keep like you said and have several reusable apps.  That means separating out much of what we've done with the utos-conman codebase.
22:48.33herlobreak it out into logical units.
22:49.30whiteingeyeah, sounds good to me. the maintainers of those projects will (I'm guessing) be happy to commit any compatibility changes we need them to
22:49.44herloVolunteers (Speakers, Volunteers, Staff), Registration (Pay to addend the con), Sponsorship (Represent your brand at our con), etc., etc.
22:50.20whiteingeyeah, cool
22:51.35herlok, I'll start thinking about this and we'll start planning a big hackfest next month :)
22:54.19whiteingeherlo: ok
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