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| 00:39.22 | fozzmoo | herlo: Re: UTOSC video. yeah, I'd like to. |
| 00:39.33 | fozzmoo | I think UTOS.org should host video. |
| 00:39.59 | fozzmoo | I'll re-master all the video I've done without the KB logo. :) |
| 01:26.18 | herlo | k, we can do that |
| 01:26.23 | herlo | fozzmoo: ^^ |
| 01:26.43 | fozzmoo | herlo: cool. |
| 01:26.58 | herlo | fozzmoo: any recomendations on software to make it easy to store that data? |
| 01:27.19 | fozzmoo | herlo: I should just whip something up. :) |
| 01:35.21 | herlo | well, I was thinking there's gotta be something out there... |
| 01:38.15 | herlo | fozzmoo: http://podcastgen.sourceforge.net/features.php?lang=en |
| 01:38.55 | fozzmoo | I'll check it out. |
| 01:39.37 | herlo | If you like I can set it up on a beta server somewhere so we can really use it... |
| 01:52.28 | undertakingyou | nearn: hi |
| 01:52.34 | undertakingyou | you still there. |
| 02:01.20 | Heartsbane | nearn is dead |
| 02:01.42 | undertakingyou | oh, that is sad. |
| 02:01.47 | undertakingyou | And I didn't even get called. |
| 02:10.03 | herlo | fozzmoo: that's totally what we should use |
| 02:10.15 | herlo | http://podcast2.utos.org/ |
| 02:10.17 | fozzmoo | ok |
| 02:11.17 | herlo | fozzmoo: supports video and audio podcasts too... |
| 02:11.24 | fozzmoo | cool. |
| 02:15.10 | herlo | only thing I am looking for right now is number of downloads, but I am thinking we could track that with a statcounter or something |
| 02:17.30 | herlo | fozzmoo: ^^ |
| 02:17.53 | fozzmoo | Or just a web analyzer. |
| 02:17.56 | fozzmoo | log analyzer. |
| 02:18.07 | fozzmoo | awstats, webalizer, etc. |
| 02:23.18 | herlo | except that you have to maintain those |
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| 02:23.51 | herlo | and set up security on them and what not, a little more work...but doable too I guess. |
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| 06:19.28 | fozzmoo | w00t. |
| 06:19.37 | fozzmoo | http://www.opensourcetv.tv/ |
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| 07:22.13 | herlo | very nice :) |
| 07:22.19 | herlo | we should blog that ... |
| 07:40.23 | fozzmoo | ok |
| 14:18.37 | goozbach | ayay! |
| 14:18.42 | goozbach | I can watch plug!!! |
| 16:07.52 | herlo | fjfjfj |
| 16:08.06 | undertakingyou | fj? |
| 16:17.23 | herlo | undertakingyou: connection issues |
| 16:18.00 | undertakingyou | me? |
| 16:18.03 | undertakingyou | oh, you |
| 16:18.07 | undertakingyou | :) |
| 16:23.07 | herlo | yeah, me |
| 16:23.13 | herlo | fixed them though, so we're good |
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| 16:39.54 | herlo | whiteinge: ping |
| 17:07.40 | herlo | http://file.pipec.ru/posts/20081226/26_12_2008_0038088001230286574_.jpg |
| 17:58.05 | whiteinge | herlo: pong |
| 17:58.56 | undertakingyou | holy snowment |
| 18:04.04 | herlo | yes |
| 18:04.05 | herlo | whiteinge: hi |
| 18:04.32 | herlo | whiteinge: so I have some django questions if you have a moment, though I've gotten frustrated and given up atm |
| 18:04.42 | whiteinge | yeah, hit me |
| 18:04.55 | DexterTh1Dragon | punches whiteinge |
| 18:05.17 | herlo | remember the form wizard we're working on with the registration pages? |
| 18:05.31 | herlo | I'm trying to get the first form 'RegisterTypeForm |
| 18:05.49 | herlo | to display fields in the form based upon whether the 'display' field is checked in the form... |
| 18:06.41 | herlo | but what I am getting is a list of each field and it's attributes. In other words, I don't wanna show the required/display fields, but use them as checks to see if the view should be displayed |
| 18:06.46 | herlo | whiteinge: ^^ |
| 18:08.43 | whiteinge | you lost me. are you trying to change what fields are displayed on the second form, depending on what was selected on the first form? |
| 18:08.49 | herlo | no |
| 18:09.03 | herlo | I'm trying to *show* fields on the first form only, we're not moving anywhere |
| 18:09.11 | herlo | okay, so think about it this way |
| 18:09.36 | herlo | I want to show, Early Bird Registration, Guru Labs University and Family Day Meals |
| 18:10.06 | herlo | but I don't want to show Press Registration, Exhibitor Registration or Sponsor Registration without the reg_key |
| 18:10.39 | herlo | so I have a value called 'display' in my form. And I want it to be checked first to see if I should 'display' the field in the form |
| 18:10.55 | herlo | whiteinge: does that make more sense? |
| 18:15.06 | whiteinge | yes. So are you wondering how to check for that key in the URL in order to correctly assign the 'display' variable? |
| 18:15.10 | whiteinge | herlo: ^^ |
| 18:15.32 | herlo | yes, and no |
| 18:15.45 | herlo | first thing, I just want to display things that are marked to display |
| 18:15.50 | herlo | then, I'll worry about the key |
| 18:17.00 | whiteinge | so is 'display' a new field on the model? |
| 18:17.17 | whiteinge | a list in the form? |
| 18:17.18 | herlo | I think so, let me double check |
| 18:18.06 | herlo | whiteinge: it is an item in the model. |
| 18:18.15 | herlo | whiteinge: what do you mean 'list in the form'? |
| 18:18.56 | whiteinge | a list attribute in the form object |
| 18:19.00 | herlo | this is the fields var in RegisterTypeForm --> fields = ('display', 'required', 'name', 'description', 'price') |
| 18:19.31 | herlo | whiteinge: I am not clear on what you mean by 'list attribute' is that a particular type I can use in a Form class? |
| 18:19.44 | herlo | whiteinge: this is in antic |
| 18:20.11 | herlo | you can look at ucm_register/forms.py and ucm_register/models.py if that helps... |
| 18:20.50 | whiteinge | herlo: I am. It looks like those changes haven't been checked in yet. I don't have a 'display' field in the RegisterType model. |
| 18:21.10 | herlo | hmm |
| 18:21.15 | herlo | let me check i tin |
| 18:21.42 | whiteinge | no need, I get the idea |
| 18:21.51 | herlo | okay, but I'm still gonna check 'em in |
| 18:23.37 | herlo | whiteinge: feel free to svn up if you like |
| 18:26.43 | whiteinge | herlo: So are you trying to display a registration form with a drop-down of the RegisterType? And you only want the RegisterTypes that have display=True to show up? |
| 18:27.42 | herlo | no |
| 18:27.47 | herlo | well, sorta |
| 18:27.53 | herlo | I don't want a pull-down list |
| 18:28.13 | herlo | I want to list them individually across the screen with a checkbox for each they can choose |
| 18:28.36 | herlo | hmm, maybe I'm going at this the wrong way |
| 18:28.58 | herlo | maybe there's different things to register for |
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| 18:29.24 | herlo | aka, conference registration - with subtypes, attendee, speaker, press, etc... |
| 18:29.33 | herlo | another would be |
| 18:30.01 | herlo | activities - family day, guru labs university, etc... |
| 18:30.53 | herlo | so the class would be regtype and then I list each instance of that type in a separate section or something. Still trying to work it out in my brain... |
| 18:32.24 | herlo | because I can see that some of these items are mutually exclusive, but I don't think I'll be displaying press and attendee registration at the same time, so I'm not sure what I want to do... |
| 18:32.42 | herlo | s/but/for example,/ |
| 18:34.48 | herlo | so maybe we don't need the 'display' field after all |
| 18:35.21 | herlo | I can just check in the view to see if a reg_key has been provided. If it has, I render a different first page with the appropriate registration information... |
| 18:37.42 | herlo | whiteinge: any thoughts on this? |
| 18:38.48 | herlo | essentially, if you pass the reg_key for a particular press agency (with a limit of 5 registrants), all the items become $0 on the page |
| 18:39.40 | herlo | but if they don't pass a reg_key at all, it's a standard registration (either early bird or standard really), and the price is dependent on the date but would be either $70 or $100 respectively |
| 18:41.03 | whiteinge | herlo: what are the items that become $0 on the page? |
| 18:41.22 | herlo | for each reg_key, it could differ I suppose |
| 18:41.35 | herlo | but I'd say that it's pretty much all or nothing most of the time |
| 18:43.38 | whiteinge | herlo: are you talking abuot pricing for things besides the converence itself? |
| 18:44.28 | herlo | yep, as I stated above |
| 18:44.46 | herlo | so you have the registration, and then add-ons |
| 18:44.48 | herlo | 12:30 <@herlo> activities - family day, guru labs university, etc... |
| 18:44.58 | herlo | these would be add-ons ^^ |
| 18:47.08 | whiteinge | herlo: So are you wondering about how to structure those add-ons in a model? |
| 18:47.20 | herlo | not really |
| 18:47.24 | herlo | I think I can do that |
| 18:47.42 | herlo | I'm trying to figure out how I would display them in a single page so they will appear the way I want... |
| 18:48.00 | herlo | goes to mock up an html page in the form he wants... |
| 18:48.10 | whiteinge | So you're wondering about how to customize how a form displays in a template? |
| 18:49.05 | herlo | sort of |
| 18:49.11 | herlo | I think ther'es more than one problem here |
| 18:49.20 | herlo | it's really been hard to explain as you can see |
| 18:49.31 | whiteinge | :) |
| 18:49.41 | herlo | basically, I want to present users with an easy-to-read choice list |
| 18:49.55 | herlo | and I'm trying to figure out the best way to construct that in a form |
| 18:50.13 | herlo | but I'm not sure I have the right structure behind the scenes to do that... |
| 18:55.25 | whiteinge | herlo: are Guru Labs University and Family Day Meals RegisterTypes? |
| 18:56.38 | whiteinge | Scratch that question, I'm sure they're not. |
| 18:58.04 | whiteinge | herlo: So it sounds to me like we need a new model for 'Activities' that has a m2m relationship with the Register model. |
| 18:58.09 | herlo | yep |
| 18:58.23 | herlo | almost done with the mocup, I think I've got it a bit clearer now |
| 19:00.33 | herlo | whiteinge: http://herlo.org/register-form.html |
| 19:00.47 | herlo | ignoring the lack of style of course :) |
| 19:02.45 | herlo | whiteinge: I think you are right though, we probably need to have register types and activities... |
| 19:04.15 | whiteinge | herlo: yeah. each activity will have a base price that can be modified based on the RegisterType that is chosen |
| 19:05.51 | herlo | so how would you go about that/ |
| 19:05.54 | herlo | ? |
| 19:06.57 | whiteinge | Depends on where they choose the RegisterType. |
| 19:07.17 | herlo | huh? |
| 19:07.36 | herlo | only one registertype can be displayed imo |
| 19:07.42 | whiteinge | Some RegisterTypes need to register for the conference by visiting that URL with the special key, right? |
| 19:07.49 | herlo | right |
| 19:08.11 | herlo | but they still have to choose it from the form. |
| 19:08.16 | herlo | dont ya think? |
| 19:09.08 | whiteinge | Yeah, it's probably best to have that in the form. |
| 19:09.28 | herlo | so I guess I don't get your statement 'Depends on where they choose the registertype'... |
| 19:09.35 | herlo | or does that not apply anymore |
| 19:10.46 | whiteinge | herlo: one sec, feedeng the baby |
| 19:10.56 | herlo | well, I need to run some errands really quick, but I'll be back in 30 minutes or so... |
| 19:11.02 | herlo | so that'll work too... |
| 19:11.03 | whiteinge | k |
| 19:11.05 | herlo | thanks for the input |
| 19:11.10 | whiteinge | np |
| 19:55.47 | whiteinge | herlo: replying in #utos-dev |
| 20:00.21 | Heartsbane | ? |
| 20:04.46 | whiteinge | ! |
| 20:06.54 | undertakingyou | herlo: ping |
| 20:06.56 | undertakingyou | Heartsbane: ping |
| 20:07.04 | undertakingyou | fozzmoo: ping |
| 20:07.06 | Heartsbane | what? |
| 20:07.08 | undertakingyou | and there is no jayce. |
| 20:07.19 | undertakingyou | I am just wondering if you are ready to have this online discussien. |
| 20:07.39 | Heartsbane | sure |
| 20:07.50 | undertakingyou | Very cool. Thanks for being here. |
| 20:07.56 | undertakingyou | I know you have been having a busy day. |
| 20:08.19 | Heartsbane | ya coffee until 7 it was grueling |
| 20:08.31 | undertakingyou | I am sorry for your loss. |
| 20:08.43 | Heartsbane | I didn't bring anything to read either |
| 20:08.46 | Heartsbane | :( |
| 20:08.58 | herlo | here |
| 20:09.05 | undertakingyou | Yayy!!1 |
| 20:09.10 | undertakingyou | and fozzmoo ? |
| 20:09.13 | herlo | sorry I'm late... |
| 20:09.19 | undertakingyou | and did anyone talk to Jayce? |
| 20:09.25 | undertakingyou | Did he say anything about it? |
| 20:09.35 | herlo | he knew about it methinks |
| 20:09.56 | undertakingyou | when you talked to him at plug did he mention that he would be here? |
| 20:10.20 | Heartsbane | yay well if we aren't the Valedictoians of Summer School, Night School and Special Ed |
| 20:10.30 | Heartsbane | I don't know who we are |
| 20:10.32 | herlo | I didn't hear him say one way or the other... |
| 20:10.42 | Heartsbane | goes to get more pistachios |
| 20:10.50 | herlo | undertakingyou: did you get my pm? |
| 20:10.59 | undertakingyou | yes. |
| 20:11.08 | undertakingyou | I am building the courage to callhim. |
| 20:11.22 | herlo | are you like 'Courage, the cowardly dog'? |
| 20:13.16 | Heartsbane | isn't he the one who pissed himself? |
| 20:13.25 | herlo | maybe |
| 20:13.31 | undertakingyou | I called Jayce^ |
| 20:13.36 | herlo | can't say as he's never actually sat through an episode... |
| 20:13.41 | Heartsbane | what did you call him? |
| 20:13.47 | undertakingyou | He is trying to get his kids situated so that he can join us. |
| 20:13.58 | herlo | okay, that just leaves fozzmoo |
| 20:14.12 | Heartsbane | leaves fozzmoo. |
| 20:14.18 | undertakingyou | Just so that you know I just started a funeral service. So I am taking a couple of minutes out of work to have this conversation. |
| 20:14.26 | undertakingyou | If I have to leave suddenly I am sorry. |
| 20:14.49 | undertakingyou | So, herlo and Heartsbane, Lets talk. What do you guys think is the best venue? |
| 20:15.04 | undertakingyou | Heartsbane: did you talk more to the DCC network guys? |
| 20:15.04 | Heartsbane | if you leave just say "Oh noes, Zombies!" so we know |
| 20:15.12 | undertakingyou | Heartsbane: ok. |
| 20:15.24 | Heartsbane | DCC? Oh ya I talked to them |
| 20:15.29 | herlo | didn't email DCC, was hoping Heartsbane did |
| 20:15.40 | Heartsbane | I got it |
| 20:15.49 | undertakingyou | What did they say? |
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| 20:15.58 | Heartsbane | There are some interesting turns there |
| 20:16.09 | undertakingyou | please divulge all. |
| 20:16.19 | Heartsbane | DCC is not a union shop so they are willing to work with us |
| 20:16.26 | herlo | ooh! awesome! |
| 20:16.42 | Heartsbane | However the answers about the network bandwidth |
| 20:16.59 | Heartsbane | they are scheduled for Utopia this summer |
| 20:17.12 | Jayce^ | well, photocamp is a big success.. |
| 20:17.16 | Jayce^ | just left |
| 20:17.30 | Heartsbane | barring no troubles, so right now the options are 2 T1 lines |
| 20:17.44 | Heartsbane | total of 3 MBps |
| 20:18.03 | herlo | k, with 2 T1s, we can provide a great 32kbps line guaranteed to about 1/3 of the attendees :) |
| 20:18.29 | undertakingyou | what is the timeline on utopia? |
| 20:18.41 | Heartsbane | I am just telling you what I know... I understand the trouble |
| 20:18.41 | undertakingyou | If we have an October conference would it be done? |
| 20:19.08 | herlo | Heartsbane: I know, making a rhetorical joke |
| 20:19.14 | Heartsbane | undertakingyou: any timeline for the footprint is subject to change |
| 20:19.33 | undertakingyou | noted. |
| 20:19.42 | undertakingyou | Any further news from any of the other venues? |
| 20:19.59 | Heartsbane | Jay is looking to upgrading the line for the event and the costs involved |
| 20:20.00 | herlo | didn't get to the SLCC Miller Campus, work has been hell |
| 20:20.01 | undertakingyou | Any more from Shauna on UVU or Novell. |
| 20:20.07 | Heartsbane | that is a all I have to report |
| 20:20.24 | Heartsbane | I never got any of the Shauna stuff |
| 20:20.26 | Heartsbane | so |
| 20:20.26 | Jayce^ | nada, didn't get a chance to call her |
| 20:20.32 | Heartsbane | sits down. |
| 20:20.59 | undertakingyou | Let me take the other approach to this conversation. |
| 20:21.00 | herlo | Heartsbane: why were you standing? |
| 20:21.10 | undertakingyou | What date do we feel would be better? |
| 20:21.12 | Heartsbane | cause I was talking |
| 20:21.18 | herlo | Heartsbane: oh, okay |
| 20:21.40 | herlo | thinks that October is best for several reasons. |
| 20:21.50 | herlo | Marketing can go on longer |
| 20:21.51 | Jayce^ | is agreeing about october |
| 20:22.02 | Jayce^ | family stuff |
| 20:22.03 | undertakingyou | wants all to note that he tried to call fozzmoo but got no answer. |
| 20:22.14 | herlo | Revenues are likely going to increase |
| 20:22.15 | undertakingyou | Interesting. I am thinking October would be better also. |
| 20:22.19 | Jayce^ | also, was talking with thom and, just forgot the guys name, from code camp this morning |
| 20:22.26 | undertakingyou | Heartsbane, what is your thought. |
| 20:23.00 | herlo | we'll be able to get more vendors/exhibitors since it'll be in a new quarter |
| 20:23.02 | Heartsbane | I origially brought up October... so I am flexible, I can see the points to either |
| 20:23.39 | herlo | the drawbacks are minimal with the exception that many students will be in school. I'm thinking though that they'll come either way... |
| 20:23.55 | undertakingyou | Ok, what venues would fit with an October date then? |
| 20:24.06 | herlo | DCC |
| 20:24.08 | Heartsbane | Well doesn't that take UVU out of the running? |
| 20:24.21 | Jayce^ | probably gives it less flexibility, for sure |
| 20:24.21 | undertakingyou | Jayce^: does that take UVU out? |
| 20:24.59 | undertakingyou | herlo: what about Miller. Are we ruling them out or do we think that they are a viable option for October? |
| 20:25.01 | herlo | thinks it's still possible, but unlikely. Though something like a Novell venue could sneak in on something further out. However, I don't wanna delay the announcement much further... |
| 20:25.12 | Jayce^ | ditto.. |
| 20:25.18 | undertakingyou | agreed. |
| 20:25.53 | herlo | undertakingyou: I'd like to point out that I think the thing we should be considering is can we use this venue long term. I don't wanna do the venue hunt every year... |
| 20:26.07 | undertakingyou | I agree with that. |
| 20:26.09 | herlo | it gets old and harder every year. |
| 20:26.17 | undertakingyou | I agree with that. |
| 20:26.21 | undertakingyou | too. |
| 20:26.30 | Heartsbane | +1 |
| 20:26.55 | undertakingyou | So, we are back to talking about venues that fit both October and can be a long term solution. |
| 20:26.56 | herlo | so that leaves us with UVU every year, or DCC every year |
| 20:27.06 | herlo | right? |
| 20:27.09 | Heartsbane | So Miller is out? |
| 20:27.09 | undertakingyou | So far we have DCC that really its it. |
| 20:27.21 | undertakingyou | +1 to Heartsbane's question. |
| 20:27.24 | herlo | Heartsbane: did you go to Miller this week? |
| 20:27.30 | herlo | couldn't go |
| 20:27.35 | Heartsbane | No I didn't |
| 20:28.03 | herlo | Dave bailed on me on thursday, and I didn't have the time to reschedule anything |
| 20:28.09 | undertakingyou | If Miller won't work with us it makes it hard to count on them. |
| 20:28.18 | herlo | agrees with that |
| 20:28.37 | herlo | also wonders if maybe we could begin negotiations with them for 2010 to see what they could offer... |
| 20:28.37 | undertakingyou | oh noes, zombies |
| 20:28.45 | Heartsbane | k later |
| 20:29.05 | Heartsbane | 28 minutes and the zombies got will |
| 20:29.10 | herlo | I don't like that we have to keep changing venues though... |
| 20:29.19 | Heartsbane | he has to find a better place to hide |
| 20:29.23 | herlo | Heartsbane: they didn't get him yet, he just warned us about them |
| 20:29.38 | herlo | I'm sure he's got a shotgun and enough ammo to last a while |
| 20:29.47 | herlo | hopefully, he's aiming for the head... |
| 20:29.55 | Heartsbane | still needs a better place to hide, anyway I would like to see this Miller Campus |
| 20:30.19 | Heartsbane | have a discussion about the facility |
| 20:30.33 | herlo | uh, but then we delay the announcement of the date/venue again |
| 20:30.42 | herlo | which is my biggest concern atm |
| 20:30.47 | herlo | Jayce^: thoughts? |
| 20:31.10 | Jayce^ | right now the date is a pretty hard bumper.. |
| 20:31.26 | Jayce^ | I think miller is going to have to be out |
| 20:31.52 | herlo | maybe we negotiate for 2010 again, but only with a few selected venues? |
| 20:31.54 | Jayce^ | and UVU, if we're doing october, we would have to get a *major* assurance from shauna right now |
| 20:32.09 | Jayce^ | so it leaves us davis |
| 20:32.16 | herlo | well, I think we can ask for that next week, and pursue an agreement by end of the week next |
| 20:32.23 | herlo | on either venue |
| 20:32.42 | herlo | but I agree with you Jayce^ |
| 20:32.47 | Heartsbane | well if we make that decision for DCC, we might have to live with 3 MBps that is the problem depending on the Layton Utopia footprint |
| 20:33.01 | herlo | that's not so bad to be honest |
| 20:33.09 | Heartsbane | I think it is |
| 20:33.21 | herlo | sure, you are the network guy |
| 20:33.27 | Jayce^ | we'd have to lean on some serious throttling to control the masses |
| 20:33.44 | herlo | but *every* other conference I've been to has this problem |
| 20:33.53 | herlo | I hope we don't have to deal with it, but it's a real possibility |
| 20:34.30 | herlo | in some cases, there was *no* net access at all *Ohio* |
| 20:34.44 | herlo | My major concerns are these: |
| 20:35.02 | herlo | Hotel costs, can we book 30 rooms? What if we don't guarantee rooms, what is the cost then? |
| 20:35.25 | herlo | Venue Network Bandwidth. This is a technology conference, so we want to push for good bandwidth |
| 20:35.35 | Heartsbane | I would imagine it would be considerably more |
| 20:35.49 | Jayce^ | Hotel cost is my biggest worry atm.. |
| 20:36.10 | herlo | well, I figure we can ask, but I'm imagining 20-30 people of the top of my head who'd get a room. Not sure they'd go with the HGI though. |
| 20:36.20 | Heartsbane | I would say push for reasonable bandwidth. but cost should come first. |
| 20:36.37 | Heartsbane | HGI? |
| 20:36.43 | herlo | Hilton Garden Inn |
| 20:36.53 | herlo | doesn't have to type that again now :) |
| 20:37.42 | herlo | we should probably check prices of the other hotels nearby and see how the rates differ |
| 20:37.47 | herlo | I wonder if they can get us a deal with other hotels instead of HGI |
| 20:37.53 | Heartsbane | Jayce^: I don't know if you caught the fact that the DCC is *not* a union facility |
| 20:38.09 | Jayce^ | I did, made me quite happy |
| 20:38.27 | Heartsbane | herlo: we would have to talk to Elizabeth Martin |
| 20:38.50 | herlo | Heartsbane: yep, but unless there's any dissent, I think we're pursuing the Davis Conference Center? |
| 20:39.18 | Jayce^ | btw, I have another lead for *good* video equipment for our keynotes now |
| 20:39.35 | herlo | we can work to figure out the hotel issue and bandwidth issues, but I'm excited about the rest of the facility. Plus we should get the group together for a Saturday tour soon. |
| 20:39.43 | herlo | Jayce^: awesome! |
| 20:39.51 | Heartsbane | I would like to talk to Miller on monday, just myself and be included to see if financially it would be worth our while |
| 20:39.53 | Jayce^ | helps going to a photo conf :) |
| 20:40.13 | herlo | Heartsbane: I don't see how that's a bad idea, but I'd like to say it's only got an outside chance |
| 20:40.15 | Jayce^ | also, talked with Jason Chaffetz about doing UTOS, he was interested.. |
| 20:40.25 | herlo | Jason Chaffets? |
| 20:40.31 | herlo | s/ts/tz/ |
| 20:40.41 | Jayce^ | 3rd district congressman.. |
| 20:40.53 | herlo | oh, how would he fit in? |
| 20:40.56 | Jayce^ | another OS in Politics :) |
| 20:41.05 | Jayce^ | this time get someone with federal insight :) |
| 20:41.06 | Heartsbane | Happy Valley District Congressman |
| 20:41.07 | herlo | cool, we could make that a main event |
| 20:41.21 | herlo | http://www.jasonforcongress.com/page/page/5011447.htm |
| 20:41.24 | herlo | found it thanks |
| 20:41.36 | Jayce^ | chaffetz.house.gov |
| 20:42.46 | herlo | k |
| 20:43.00 | Heartsbane | <--- Insert Dramaic Pause Here ---> |
| 20:43.04 | herlo | anyway, so we're pursuing DCC with a side perusal of SLCC Miller right? |
| 20:43.17 | herlo | and we're pursuing only the October 8-10 dates now? |
| 20:43.33 | Heartsbane | unless we hear something that can change our minds from Shauna |
| 20:43.34 | Jayce^ | unless we get a nastygram about price or something. |
| 20:43.49 | Heartsbane | or the nastygram |
| 20:43.58 | herlo | nastygram? |
| 20:44.02 | herlo | from whom? |
| 20:44.23 | Heartsbane | blames Jayce^. |
| 20:44.38 | Jayce^ | eg something ups the price |
| 20:44.42 | Jayce^ | or blows chunks |
| 20:44.55 | herlo | just quickly checked prices for hotels around the area there. From $70/night (comfort inn) to $120/night (fairfield inn) |
| 20:45.06 | herlo | oh, well at some point we have to commit to the contract... |
| 20:45.10 | herlo | but yeah, until that point sure |
| 20:45.42 | herlo | so I think HGI is within the price range btw, but I think they could've given us a better deal to be honest |
| 20:45.56 | herlo | okay, so let's task this out and be done |
| 20:46.15 | Jayce^ | we talked more with the noahs folks, they did say "tell us what you can offer" but I really don't think they go down as much as we'd need |
| 20:46.46 | Heartsbane | We? |
| 20:46.47 | herlo | they don't have the room for 20 booths, let alone 40 unless we put the booths outside |
| 20:46.56 | herlo | Heartsbane: him and fozzmoo |
| 20:46.59 | Heartsbane | oh |
| 20:47.08 | Heartsbane | fozzwho? |
| 20:47.15 | herlo | yeah, he's not here |
| 20:47.55 | herlo | anyway, I don't want to let this linger too much more, we've already wasted so much time picking a venue, if we wait much longer, we'll lose a lot of exhibitors/sponsors... |
| 20:47.58 | herlo | IMO |
| 20:48.11 | herlo | so here's the tasks I see, unless you guys have more comments? |
| 20:48.37 | herlo | Heartsbane - Pursue SLCC Miller as an outlying possibility for 8/8-8/10. |
| 20:48.55 | herlo | Jayce - Check with Shauna on UVU for 8/8-8/10 |
| 20:49.25 | herlo | herlo: - Pursue alternate scenarios regarding hotel rooms with DCC for 8/8-8/10 |
| 20:49.39 | herlo | any other tasks you guys can see? |
| 20:50.32 | herlo | Jayce^, Heartsbane ?? |
| 20:50.33 | Heartsbane | not really other than what is the alt October dates? |
| 20:50.54 | herlo | what do you mean? I thought there were only two dates August and October |
| 20:50.59 | Jayce^ | that's it for now though, we probably want to start getting a draft announcement ready.. |
| 20:51.06 | Jayce^ | so we can fire it off as soon as we sign |
| 20:51.13 | herlo | Jayce^: victor and I are working on it this Thursday |
| 20:51.21 | herlo | we've been discussing it already |
| 20:51.38 | herlo | feel free to come after UPHPU to Applebees |
| 20:51.51 | herlo | and help |
| 20:52.18 | herlo | Heartsbane: are you suggesting that we should have two dates in October now? |
| 20:52.45 | Heartsbane | no |
| 20:52.58 | herlo | then what are the alternate dates you suggested above? |
| 20:53.16 | herlo | ooh, oops, I put the wrong dates |
| 20:53.18 | herlo | hehe, I see |
| 20:53.23 | herlo | should be 10/8-10/10 |
| 20:53.23 | Heartsbane | Lets just look into this and *get back to each other by wednesday* |
| 20:53.31 | Jayce^ | roger |
| 20:53.37 | herlo | Wednesday, what time? |
| 20:53.45 | herlo | SLLUG is that night at 7:10pm btw |
| 20:53.54 | Heartsbane | By 18:00 |
| 20:54.04 | herlo | k, I'll write this up... |
| 20:54.13 | herlo | and email the core team |
| 20:54.32 | herlo | we good? |
| 20:55.06 | Heartsbane | Well I am not... but ... I wasn't before I got here |
| 20:55.25 | Jayce^ | good |
| 20:55.31 | herlo | though that has nothing to do with the venue Heartsbane :) |
| 20:55.55 | Heartsbane | so |
| 20:56.02 | herlo | just sayin' |
| 21:00.38 | herlo | thanks gang |
| 21:01.02 | Heartsbane | you betcha buckwheat |
| 21:01.45 | herlo | Heartsbane: that's something my dad would say |
| 21:02.07 | Heartsbane | Oh ok |
| 21:02.37 | herlo | Heartsbane: was it 2 t1s? |
| 21:11.40 | herlo | Heartsbane: Jayce^: undertakingyou: fozzmoo: http://fpaste.org/paste/6128 |
| 21:11.59 | herlo | thoughts? |
| 21:16.47 | herlo | k, we'll I'm posting it |
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| 21:43.00 | undertakingyou | back. |
| 21:43.11 | undertakingyou | Thanks for running with that Heartsbane, Jayce^ and herlo . |
| 21:43.16 | undertakingyou | I will be there Wednesday evening. |
| 21:45.14 | herlo | k |
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