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| 03:13.15 | eggyknap | herlo / other Fedora people: Apparently Fedora 10 doesn't include ExtUtils::Embed with it's base Perl install anymore, and the PostgreSQL people are interested to know why, because it's required for PL/Perl. Anyone know whom I could talk to? |
| 03:13.39 | eggyknap | ...whom I could talk to to pose the question, that is. |
| 03:16.35 | herlo | eggyknap: possibly |
| 03:16.58 | herlo | eggyknap: but I need some other info |
| 03:17.46 | herlo | for instance, wrt PL/Perl, what other applications might there be that are close to PL/Perl? Also, I am technically a packager in Fedora now, so I could package it with a little help from you |
| 03:21.24 | mindjuju | looks like eggyknap fell asleep |
| 03:21.43 | herlo | mindjuju: something like that |
| 03:21.52 | herlo | mindjuju: excited for the party!? |
| 03:22.50 | Heartsbane | mindjuju: tell him NO ... I want to see what happens |
| 03:23.38 | herlo | Heartsbane: I know you are excited! |
| 03:24.06 | herlo | ~coffee Heartsbane |
| 03:24.06 | infobot | ACTION steals some of mindjuju's special coffee and gives it to Heartsbane on a silver platter. |
| 03:24.25 | herlo | and now, you'll be up for a while |
| 03:24.54 | Heartsbane | Why is it "special coffee" |
| 03:25.05 | mindjuju | sorry, had to queue up another song |
| 03:25.26 | mindjuju | fatboy slim :: weapon of choice |
| 03:25.30 | herlo | Heartsbane: hehe, you can find out *after* you drink it |
| 03:25.33 | mindjuju | k, what's this about the party? |
| 03:25.38 | mindjuju | i didn't know it was settled |
| 03:25.52 | herlo | mindjuju: did you not just get an email? |
| 03:26.24 | mindjuju | lemme check |
| 03:28.24 | eggyknap | herlo: sorry, I'm back :) |
| 03:28.34 | eggyknap | Though falling asleep would be nice. |
| 03:28.40 | herlo | :) haha |
| 03:28.48 | mindjuju | yeah, no doubt, have been awake since 5a |
| 03:29.01 | mindjuju | d00d tiburon looks awesome |
| 03:29.04 | herlo | mindjuju: sleep! |
| 03:29.10 | herlo | :) |
| 03:29.12 | eggyknap | I've no idea what else might use the package. For that matter, I don't know how it was determined that it was hte package at fault. But the guy that claims it knows his stuff. |
| 03:29.13 | herlo | mindjuju: great! |
| 03:29.20 | herlo | eggyknap: no, that was not the question |
| 03:29.47 | eggyknap | I figured my interpretation of the question might have been off somewhat :) |
| 03:29.54 | herlo | lol |
| 03:30.16 | herlo | eggyknap: what i was asking was, are there other Perl apps that are similar in form to PL/Perl? |
| 03:30.29 | herlo | something that I can find in the fedora repos maybe so I can find out who the maintainer is? |
| 03:31.39 | eggyknap | Well, PL/Perl is just an application with an embedded Perl interpreter... so it would be something else that embeds Perl, I guess. And I can't think of any right now. |
| 03:31.54 | eggyknap | I could find the PL/Perl package maintainer, but presumably you could to, and presumably that's not what you want. |
| 03:32.27 | herlo | oh |
| 03:32.38 | herlo | well, maybe |
| 03:33.08 | Heartsbane | Can you be more vague |
| 03:33.17 | herlo | yes, would you like me to |
| 03:33.29 | herlo | Heartsbane: uh |
| 03:33.40 | eggyknap | .oO("[waving hands] This is not the maintainer you're looking for") |
| 03:33.53 | Heartsbane | now this the IRC I remember |
| 03:34.00 | eggyknap | heh :) |
| 03:34.01 | Heartsbane | s/this/this is/ |
| 03:34.23 | eggyknap | Something about Star Wars references and waving hands with mystical mind-bending voices struck me as "being vague" |
| 03:35.14 | herlo | eggyknap: I can check the packagin system for ya |
| 03:35.28 | Heartsbane | eggyknap: http://www.flickr.com/photos/24973901@N04/2762458387/ |
| 03:35.51 | eggyknap | lol :) |
| 03:36.00 | mindjuju | Heartsbane - that is FREAKIN awesome |
| 03:38.01 | Heartsbane | watch your FREAKIN mouth before you offend my FREAKIN ears and herlo kicks us out the FREAKIN channel |
| 03:38.16 | herlo | lol |
| 03:38.20 | mindjuju | dag nabit! |
| 03:38.25 | herlo | nag dabit! |
| 03:38.34 | mindjuju | hides behind a fern plant so he won't be seen |
| 03:38.46 | eggyknap | herlo: Yeah, I'm really not sure where I'm headed with this -- someone on a mailing list just said, "Perhaps someone with Fedora connections can find out why they'd do such a thing", where "such a thing" == "suddenly quit distributing that Perl module" |
| 03:38.54 | herlo | mindjuju: I think they might have a fernplant at Tiburon |
| 03:39.07 | herlo | eggyknap: hang on plz |
| 03:39.19 | eggyknap | hangs |
| 03:39.28 | Heartsbane | blames macnewbold. |
| 03:42.03 | mindjuju | when is it not macnewbold 's fault? |
| 03:42.15 | mindjuju | i blames him for th economy |
| 03:55.37 | eggyknap | has to call it a night |
| 03:55.58 | eggyknap | herlo: thx, and if you find anything interesting, I should still be logged in to pretend to listen :) |
| 03:56.04 | eggyknap | G'night all. |
| 03:56.28 | mindjuju | cya |
| 03:56.30 | herlo | eggyknap: oh, sorry |
| 03:56.41 | herlo | got caught up in a build process... |
| 03:57.08 | eggyknap | woke up at 3 AM today, and it's starting to hurt, so it's an early bedtime day. |
| 03:57.11 | eggyknap | herlo: no worries. |
| 03:57.50 | herlo | yeah, okay I'll see what I can find out tonight |
| 04:15.46 | herlo | eggyknap: it seems there hasn't ever been a PL/Perl package, but you can check more for yourself with fedora's pkgdb |
| 04:15.54 | herlo | https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/ |
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| 05:10.32 | fozzmoo | herlo: ping |
| 05:17.21 | herlo | fozzmoo: pong |
| 09:46.21 | Supaplex | ding |
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| 18:45.35 | herlo | ~seen jjolly |
| 18:45.39 | infobot | jjolly <n=jjolly@nat/novell/x-234310a763855b52> was last seen on IRC in channel #utos, 113d 4h 13m 20s ago, saying: 'Something about a craft fair in Midway called Swiss Days. It is traditionally the day she makes the pilgramage up the canyon and I become a babysitter.'. |
| 19:03.24 | goozbach | love swiss days |
| 19:03.42 | goozbach | I've got the rubber band gun I purchased last swiss days sitting on my desk |
| 19:03.51 | goozbach | now if I only had a cat I could shooot |
| 19:03.53 | goozbach | ... |
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| 21:28.43 | sontek | peno^away: ping |
| 21:29.22 | sontek | hmmm.. maybe I need to say it louder |
| 21:29.30 | sontek | peno^away: PING! |
| 21:48.46 | herlo | sontek: you live!! |
| 21:48.58 | sontek | oh hi! |
| 21:49.24 | sontek | I'm on vacation right now! Its exciting, i'm sitting at home drinking beers and eating doritoes with wyatt :P |
| 21:51.08 | sontek | Hows the open source world? |
| 21:51.58 | herlo | sontek: it's doing well. |
| 21:52.12 | herlo | wondered if you might ever return into the world of open source :) |
| 21:52.39 | sontek | I snagged up banshee, tomboy, and monodevelop source today |
| 21:52.46 | sontek | banshee and tomboy run in windows now |
| 21:52.53 | sontek | so i'm going to hack on those and improve the experience |
| 21:58.29 | sontek | But probably wont run Linux anymore |
| 21:58.42 | sontek | I have a windows mobile phone, a zune, and running windows 7 on the lappy :P |
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| 22:09.01 | sontek | Heartsbane: wheres that fag peno at |
| 22:09.02 | sontek | I mean |
| 22:09.14 | sontek | that nice fellow with cisco connections |
| 22:09.20 | sontek | I need the cisco anyconnect software |
| 22:09.25 | sontek | that will run on vista 64 |
| 22:10.45 | Heartsbane | sontek: PM |
| 22:22.09 | herlo | sontek: why not linux anymore? |
| 22:22.30 | herlo | is Vista that great? |
| 22:23.27 | sontek | Not so much the OS but the community |
| 22:23.35 | sontek | way to much politics going on in the linux world |
| 22:23.57 | sontek | But out of everything I loved in Linux, there is only one thing I miss, banshee ! |
| 22:24.07 | sontek | windows has the most terrible media players on earth |
| 22:29.56 | herlo | sontek: go to the global community, it's better there, but I hear ya |
| 22:30.46 | herlo | I talk with people regularly about the complaining that goes on in local communities and I hear it's the same everywhere. |
| 22:31.16 | herlo | but you are right, banshee rules and abock and his team is awesome. They did hack week at UTOSC this year. |
| 22:33.38 | sontek | Yeah I was going to meet up with them but had to go cold turkey! |
| 22:33.44 | sontek | they would've got me back into *nix |
| 22:33.54 | herlo | and you would love it :)( |
| 22:34.10 | sontek | I think the complaining/pandering/elitism in the community is the only thing that keeps Linux from getting really mainstream |
| 22:36.34 | herlo | I agree, somewhat |
| 22:37.15 | herlo | but some of the elitism is what brought Linux to it's stature. I'm not a big fan of complaining and not doing anything. This is why I love the global community |
| 22:37.24 | herlo | they might not like something, but they just fix it... |
| 22:39.45 | herlo | sontek: well, I'm glad you are back, we should go for a beer sometime |
| 22:41.26 | sontek | Once I switch jobs and get all situated i'll probably setup a linux VPC again |
| 22:41.41 | sontek | lets do it, i'm available whenever :p hitting up martine tonight |
| 23:00.29 | herlo | well, I now have a gf so we're going to a play. Maybe this weekend or something |
| 23:17.02 | sontek | I don't have a gf anymore =) |
| 23:17.59 | herlo | I know |
| 23:18.10 | herlo | where did she go? |
| 23:18.33 | sontek | We moved her into my office for now |
| 23:18.43 | sontek | shes moving out in December when she graudates |
| 23:18.49 | sontek | graduates* |
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