| 00:01.18 | herlo | opapo: try df -k, there should be a reported difference |
| 00:01.28 | herlo | also, remember that a fair amount of the disk is reserved for root |
| 00:05.28 | Heartsbane | writing in 1K blocks could be a issue too right? |
| 00:06.01 | Heartsbane | BTW National debt now about 10 trillion w00t another record |
| 00:25.33 | herlo | Heartsbane: that depends on the fs |
| 00:25.58 | herlo | and in response to your other comment, we've been screwed for a while now, I just rather not think about it... |
| 00:28.25 | Heartsbane | s/about/above/ |
| 01:06.39 | opapo | herlo: df -k shows a similar thing |
| 01:06.58 | opapo | 6G should not be reserved for root |
| 01:07.09 | herlo | opapo: probably not |
| 01:07.19 | herlo | opapo: df -i |
| 01:07.57 | opapo | It says IUse% is 3% |
| 01:08.35 | opapo | 429662 is IUsed |
| 01:08.52 | herlo | hrm |
| 01:08.58 | opapo | of 17055744 |
| 01:09.08 | opapo | can I defrag? |
| 01:09.13 | herlo | nope |
| 01:09.15 | herlo | no such thing |
| 01:09.22 | herlo | what fs? |
| 01:09.34 | herlo | assumes ext3 |
| 01:09.41 | opapo | Ubuntu |
| 01:09.51 | opapo | assumes ext3 as well |
| 01:10.19 | opapo | this server has been up for about a year |
| 01:10.32 | opapo | do I need to fsdsk |
| 01:10.35 | opapo | or something |
| 01:11.18 | opapo | is there a trash bin I need to delete? |
| 01:16.34 | opapo | s/fsdsk/fsck/ |
| 03:09.39 | Heartsbane | opapo: is this the / partition? |
| 04:12.17 | tensai | is there a deleted file taking up space? |
| 04:12.21 | tensai | lsof |grep deleted |
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| 15:50.56 | opapo | Heartsbane: it is the / partition |
| 15:56.24 | opapo | It is a 130G drive so 6G could be the overhead. |
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| 17:06.15 | macnewbold | opapo: efficiency in your fs goes way down if you dip into that 6G reserved space |
| 17:06.18 | macnewbold | man tunefs |
| 17:06.30 | macnewbold | it can start to get really really slow |
| 17:06.43 | macnewbold | you can write to it as root, but it isn't meant for long term use |
| 17:06.50 | macnewbold | that's why it gives you the out of space message |
| 17:08.22 | undertakingyou | macnewbold: you know everything man. |
| 17:09.15 | Supaplex | ghendricks: yo :) |
| 17:09.27 | ghendricks | poke |
| 17:27.37 | Supaplex | builds a few extra debian packages for SpammerAssassin |
| 17:40.01 | opapo | macnewbold: I will man tunefs |
| 17:40.42 | opapo | Thanks for the knowledge transfer :) |
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| 17:50.25 | Supaplex | indeed :) |
| 18:05.59 | herlo | macnewbold: it actually says that in the tunefs man page? |
| 18:07.05 | herlo | looks for this in the man page and doesn't see it... |
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| 18:27.28 | opapo | herlo: look at -m |
| 18:28.26 | opapo | 5% accounts for the 6G I couldn't access |
| 18:29.10 | herlo | opapo: okay |
| 18:30.20 | opapo | I will just need to run nagios or something to warn me when I am within 7-8G of capacity |
| 18:31.38 | goozbach | nagios++ |
| 18:31.49 | goozbach | I just found a bunch of powerful nagios check plugins |
| 18:32.05 | goozbach | http://nagiosexchange.org/cgi-bin/page.cgi?d=1 |
| 18:32.23 | opapo | What do you think of GroundWork? |
| 18:32.39 | opapo | I guess it is an overlay for nagios |
| 18:33.15 | opapo | http://www.groundworkopensource.com/ |
| 18:33.55 | goozbach | opapo: I've not worked with it, but getting your head around nagios would probabally be better |
| 18:34.16 | goozbach | it does have a steep learning curve, but once you get over the hump, it's extremely powerful |
| 19:21.25 | herlo | Jayce^: ping |
| 19:21.58 | herlo | http://plug.org/pipermail/plug/2008-October/032360.html |
| 19:22.09 | herlo | Jayce^: I want to solve this problem with the UTOS LUG Tour... |
| 19:25.36 | Jayce^ | how? |
| 19:30.03 | herlo | Jayce^: like this: http://plug.org/pipermail/plug/2008-October/032361.html |
| 19:32.04 | fozzmoo | opapo: I'm not fond of Groundwork |
| 19:35.13 | fozzmoo | The Canyon Park area seems very convenient for most people. |
| 19:35.29 | fozzmoo | If there's a way to get into something there... like the Hard Drive building. |
| 19:35.36 | fozzmoo | That would be, IMO, the best place to meet. |
| 19:40.37 | herlo | it won't happen |
| 19:40.43 | fozzmoo | it won't happen? |
| 19:40.51 | herlo | the Hard Disk Cafe has been since taken over by the UVU Culinary program |
| 19:41.02 | fozzmoo | Ahhh. |
| 19:41.35 | herlo | thus the reason the CTO Breakfast is at Novell |
| 19:41.48 | herlo | to be honest, the OSTC is a great place, albeit it can be inconvenient at times |
| 19:41.54 | herlo | but it might be a good stop-gap |
| 19:41.54 | fozzmoo | yeah. I agree. |
| 19:42.00 | opapo | fozzmoo: I thought the comments about Canyon Park and the Hard Drive building applied to me |
| 19:42.06 | opapo | I was confused |
| 19:42.13 | fozzmoo | opapo: :) |
| 19:42.50 | opapo | thanks for your input |
| 19:43.18 | fozzmoo | I agree with goozbach- just learn nagios. :) |
| 19:43.37 | fozzmoo | Once you learn nagios, groundwork is actually INconvenient. |
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| 21:25.57 | Heartsbane | opapo: have you tried getting space back from a 'sudo aptitude clean' |
| 22:14.56 | macnewbold | herlo, opapo: sorry, tunefs man page might only be on freebsd. but yeah, it mentions the extra space there IIRC. |
| 22:15.06 | macnewbold | I've run into the same issue before (out of space) so I looked it up too. |
| 22:25.55 | Heartsbane | macnewbold: you would |
| 22:27.47 | macnewbold | ~mancard Heartsbane |
| 22:27.49 | macnewbold | ~lart jbot |
| 22:27.49 | infobot | --purges jbot |
| 22:28.00 | macnewbold | ~unforget mancard |
| 22:28.00 | infobot | that factoid was not backedup :/, macnewbold |
| 22:28.03 | macnewbold | argh |
| 22:29.04 | Heartsbane | FAIL |
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| 23:23.17 | undertakingyou | memilyrae: ping |