| 00:00.43 | findlay | and centerless |
| 00:01.09 | peno | not freaking stable |
| 00:20.54 | *** join/#utos Gate (n=gate@unaffiliated/gate) |
| 00:21.41 | herlo | is no liar! |
| 00:30.15 | findlay | if you mapped out a cd with a polar coordinate system, you wouldn't have to worry about a singularity |
| 00:31.03 | Gate | findlay .... what? |
| 00:31.12 | findlay | because of herlo, evidently |
| 00:31.33 | Gate | "worry about a singularity" |
| 00:31.37 | findlay | Gate: the polar coordinate system has a singularity at the origin |
| 00:31.59 | findlay | meaning that more than one set of coordinates will map the origin |
| 00:32.09 | Gate | -_^ I took singularity in the physics definition |
| 00:32.25 | findlay | but the origin is really meaningless in polar anyway, blah, blah |
| 00:32.43 | findlay | formal system, versus mathematical reality, etc. |
| 00:35.31 | findlay | why does a fuel filter cost $20? |
| 00:35.43 | findlay | it's just pleated paper in a metal can |
| 00:35.49 | findlay | come on |
| 00:36.16 | Heartsbane | findlay: because it hasn't been Open Sourced |
| 00:36.37 | findlay | Heartsbane: only last year I got the same filter from the same store for only 6 bux |
| 01:34.33 | peno | findlay: because you bought one last year, you created a demand. |
| 01:53.35 | *** join/#utos mindjuju (n=mindjuju@76.8.222.130) |
| 02:00.31 | decriptor | mindjuju: welcome |
| 02:01.11 | mindjuju | howdy decriptor |
| 02:01.16 | findlay | ~demand peno |
| 02:02.07 | herlo | decriptor: status report! |
| 02:02.26 | decriptor | rebob |
| 02:02.32 | Heartsbane | HJHAHAHAHAHA |
| 02:03.01 | peno | ssh's into the switch and issues 'shutdown' on heartsbane's port. |
| 02:03.28 | Heartsbane | Un cool |
| 02:03.37 | decriptor | and uncalled for |
| 02:03.38 | decriptor | :) |
| 02:03.55 | peno | yeah, you could just un plug and plug into another port on the 3750. O_o |
| 02:03.57 | Heartsbane | which port am I on, you don't know |
| 02:03.58 | herlo | decriptor: lol |
| 02:04.20 | peno | Heartsbane: I could find out.. if I wasn't lazy |
| 02:04.26 | Heartsbane | LIES |
| 02:04.58 | peno | sets mac security instead |
| 02:05.25 | Heartsbane | I will change my mac address |
| 02:05.33 | peno | so |
| 02:05.48 | peno | it would take you longer to do that. :) |
| 02:06.12 | Heartsbane | ya |
| 02:11.12 | peno | it's 'update' |
| 02:11.40 | Heartsbane | FOREVER! |
| 02:11.44 | peno | EVAR |
| 02:11.55 | Heartsbane | okay squints |
| 02:12.02 | peno | O_O |
| 02:49.39 | Heartsbane | NO I DON'T |
| 02:50.17 | Heartsbane | Sounds Fedoratastic |
| 02:50.32 | herlo | It is! |
| 02:50.46 | Heartsbane | Watch it bust then it will be fine |
| 02:50.46 | peno | is that like comcastic? |
| 02:50.59 | herlo | hell no |
| 02:51.01 | peno | bust then be fine.. sounds like WINDOWS |
| 02:51.30 | peno | ~confuse herlo |
| 02:51.31 | infobot | yes who are my gouda today ? |
| 02:51.32 | herlo | peno: if you are going to argue something, you should MAKE SENSE!! |
| 02:51.47 | Heartsbane | WTH infobot |
| 02:51.54 | peno | ~confuse infobot |
| 02:51.55 | infobot | no where are their bacon yesterday ? |
| 02:52.03 | peno | it will crash |
| 02:52.06 | peno | and burn |
| 02:52.13 | Heartsbane | its Fedora |
| 02:52.26 | Heartsbane | maybe it needs a REBOB |
| 02:52.40 | herlo | sees no point in arguing with insanity |
| 02:52.52 | peno | herlo: /quit |
| 02:53.04 | peno | it's the only solution, since IRC *IS* insanity. |
| 02:54.12 | herlo | peno: could be |
| 03:37.38 | tristanbob | peno, just run the cdp listener, right? |
| 03:38.12 | tristanbob | I guess wireshark might tell you that.... |
| 04:05.32 | herlo | thinks we forgot to have hackfest tonight |
| 04:09.53 | Tene | NO HACKFEST?! |
| 04:11.02 | herlo | well, we can still have it |
| 04:11.06 | herlo | whiteinge: :) |
| 04:11.12 | herlo | undertakingyou: :) |
| 04:11.16 | herlo | Tene: :) |
| 04:11.51 | Tene | What do you want to hack? |
| 04:12.15 | herlo | Tene: well, my plan was to fix the css on utosc.com |
| 04:12.29 | herlo | but we need testers and fixers |
| 04:13.16 | herlo | testers need to run winders/mac versions of IE, FF2/FF3 and Safari, etc |
| 04:13.34 | herlo | have a look at our site and give feedback on what works and doesn't on different resolutions... |
| 04:14.13 | herlo | is no good at css, so I can possibly test, if only I had a winders machine :) |
| 04:14.45 | tristanbob | I've got winders here, but going to bed soon |
| 04:15.40 | herlo | tristanbob: lame! |
| 04:15.49 | herlo | geeks don't go to bed before 1am |
| 04:15.56 | herlo | at least and we get up around 6am too |
| 04:16.03 | herlo | caffeine to the rescue |
| 04:18.23 | fozzmoo | speak for yourself herlo (about the getting up at 6am bit) |
| 04:19.17 | herlo | fozzmoo: lazy! |
| 04:19.32 | fozzmoo | values his health a little. |
| 04:19.32 | herlo | fozzmoo: can't make it tomorrow ey? |
| 04:19.36 | Tene | I have to be up at 7am EST this week. |
| 04:19.47 | fozzmoo | herlo: Actually- something opened up. |
| 04:19.49 | herlo | Tene: wow, 6am EDT, that's rough |
| 04:19.51 | fozzmoo | I may be able to come tomorrow. |
| 04:19.58 | herlo | fozzmoo: woohoo |
| 04:20.01 | fozzmoo | What timne again? |
| 04:20.10 | herlo | 7:30 |
| 04:20.10 | fozzmoo | I've got a meeting at the church at 8:45 |
| 04:20.19 | fozzmoo | so, I can probably come until 8:15 |
| 04:20.21 | herlo | well, come earlier, I'll be there |
| 04:21.16 | herlo | fozzmoo: feel like blogging some tomorrow to get us through the rest of the week? |
| 04:21.43 | fozzmoo | I just keep waiting for someone to get me some real info. |
| 04:21.52 | fozzmoo | Maybe I need to be more proactive. |
| 04:22.02 | fozzmoo | Lotta stuff going on. |
| 04:22.09 | herlo | yeah |
| 04:22.15 | herlo | not sure what else you need |
| 04:22.22 | fozzmoo | Everything. |
| 04:22.30 | fozzmoo | I don't feel like I have anything to write on. |
| 04:22.36 | herlo | I guess I find it hard to tell you stuff, its like anything else. |
| 04:22.45 | fozzmoo | E-mail works wonders. |
| 04:22.45 | herlo | we have stuff to write on, I gave you topics |
| 04:22.53 | fozzmoo | Yeah- I can't just write on topics. |
| 04:22.54 | herlo | points to the email from two weeks ago |
| 04:23.03 | herlo | hmm, I guess I'm lost |
| 04:23.07 | fozzmoo | "Christer will give a keynote. Come. It'll be cool." |
| 04:23.08 | herlo | you come to meetings as much as I do |
| 04:23.21 | herlo | fozzmoo: find his info on our 2008.utosc.com website? |
| 04:23.21 | fozzmoo | "Phil Windley will give a keynote. dunno when. But come. It'll be cool." |
| 04:23.24 | fozzmoo | I looked. |
| 04:23.30 | fozzmoo | There was nothing about the new keynotes. |
| 04:23.34 | herlo | fozzmoo: that one is from Jayce, can't help there |
| 04:23.42 | herlo | fozzmoo: his LTS presentation IS the keynote |
| 04:23.42 | Tene | fozzmoo: When nobody gives you information, that's your opportunity to decide on things. |
| 04:23.50 | herlo | Tene: thank you |
| 04:23.53 | fozzmoo | When I looked (yesterday), there was no info about new keynotes. |
| 04:23.59 | herlo | has tried to put that into words... |
| 04:24.00 | Tene | Christer will give a keynote. He will talk about puppies and wear a silly hat. |
| 04:24.10 | herlo | fozzmoo: his LTS presentation IS the keynote |
| 04:24.17 | Tene | Christer and Phil will share an intimate hug on stage. |
| 04:24.19 | herlo | fozzmoo: Christer's LTS presentation IS the keynote |
| 04:24.24 | fozzmoo | Would have been nice to know that. |
| 04:24.28 | herlo | Tene: now that's something people would pay for |
| 04:24.58 | fozzmoo | Those are the only two I remember. |
| 04:25.20 | herlo | fozzmoo: Utah Open Source Awards. I need to help more on that one for sure |
| 04:25.21 | fozzmoo | I think there's a lot of "if I said it in IRC, everyone's heard/seen it" going on. |
| 04:25.26 | herlo | we need a bigger push on that |
| 04:25.32 | fozzmoo | I agree. Dunno anything about it. |
| 04:25.43 | herlo | fozzmoo: I'm stuck |
| 04:26.06 | herlo | the hard part for me is I put a lot of things in the wiki, in email, on utosc.com, but nobody seems to find it/read it |
| 04:26.19 | fozzmoo | If you put it in the wiki, I'm never gonna know about it. |
| 04:26.26 | herlo | I tried the task master with hm, but nobody looks |
| 04:26.30 | herlo | fozzmoo: why? why is that? |
| 04:26.35 | Tene | herlo: maybe you should start a new website/mailing list: stuff I said somewhere else. |
| 04:26.36 | fozzmoo | If you put it on the UTOS/utosc website, I'm never going to know abou tit. |
| 04:26.44 | herlo | I'm not trying to pick on you, but I'm rather trying to find a way to help... |
| 04:27.04 | fozzmoo | I don't wake up every morning and go take inventory of every page on a website to see if anything's changed... |
| 04:27.04 | herlo | I can put it in a million places, and it doesn't seem to matter |
| 04:27.08 | fozzmoo | but I do check my e-mail... a lot. |
| 04:27.12 | herlo | I don't expect you to |
| 04:27.23 | fozzmoo | I don't receive any HM updates via e-mail lately. |
| 04:27.25 | fozzmoo | Haven't for a while. |
| 04:27.26 | herlo | and I put things in the email, including links to pages that I swear nobody reads |
| 04:27.46 | fozzmoo | The HM thing was working well, when i was getting tasks via HM |
| 04:27.49 | herlo | fozzmoo: yes, because nobody seemed to be doing their tasks, we all have tasks left unfinished in there |
| 04:28.01 | herlo | fozzmoo: you must be the only one |
| 04:28.12 | fozzmoo | Sorry. |
| 04:28.14 | herlo | fozzmoo: don't take this the wrong way, but I'm frustrated |
| 04:28.19 | fozzmoo | Well, me too. :) |
| 04:28.28 | fozzmoo | And we're frustrated for the same reason. :) |
| 04:28.42 | herlo | I'm trying to communicate, but I find that its really hard when no matter how hard I try, I can't get the information out the right way |
| 04:28.53 | herlo | I've tried to say, look here it is to many people. |
| 04:29.09 | herlo | but I have 500 ways to share it, it seems. |
| 04:29.19 | fozzmoo | Yeah. And that's probably a big part of the problem. :)\ |
| 04:29.27 | herlo | how do I communicate this better? |
| 04:29.34 | fozzmoo | Stick to one or two ways. |
| 04:29.41 | herlo | I have |
| 04:29.48 | herlo | and nobody seems to pay attention to those |
| 04:29.49 | fozzmoo | And please don't make IRC one of them. :) |
| 04:30.00 | herlo | fozzmoo: irc is one of them, but its not static enough |
| 04:30.07 | fozzmoo | I don't think I know how to use irssi well enough to make use of the backlog. |
| 04:30.11 | herlo | if its important enough, I put it on the wiki or email |
| 04:30.16 | herlo | ~logs |
| 04:30.17 | infobot | All conversations are logged to http://ibot.rikers.org/channel, where "channel" is replaced by the URL-encoded channel name, such as %23freenode for #freenode. Lines starting with spaces are not logged. |
| 04:30.30 | herlo | and I try to lead people to resources... |
| 04:30.36 | herlo | those are my main resources. |
| 04:30.43 | memilyrae | herlo: so, did anyone decide what logo we're doing for the polos? |
| 04:30.57 | herlo | memilyrae: I voted for 1 |
| 04:30.59 | herlo | and 4 |
| 04:31.01 | fozzmoo | But irssi logs or channel log pages still require a lot of time perusing banal discussions of no interest. :) |
| 04:31.04 | herlo | I don't think we finished the voting |
| 04:31.12 | herlo | fozzmoo: I agree with you |
| 04:31.28 | herlo | which is why when there is something useful, I put it elsewhere and try to remind others... |
| 04:31.31 | Tene | ibot's logs are only available after the next day |
| 04:31.35 | fozzmoo | memilyrae: I liked 3 and 4, but ended up liking the last iteration on #1 |
| 04:31.43 | Tene | I can't see logs from today on there. |
| 04:31.46 | herlo | memilyrae: you pick |
| 04:31.51 | herlo | Tene: agreed. |
| 04:32.08 | memilyrae | herlo: yeah...thanks a lot. :P |
| 04:32.25 | tensai | Tene: and ibot uses UTC just to make it more interesting |
| 04:32.27 | herlo | fozzmoo: what I'm trying to get at is this. Everyone wants information in a different way. its hard for me to remember |
| 04:32.42 | herlo | so I try to stick to simple things like wikis and email |
| 04:32.43 | fozzmoo | I don't think you should be accomodating of everyone. |
| 04:32.45 | fozzmoo | Just me. :) |
| 04:32.48 | herlo | fozzmoo: lol |
| 04:33.05 | herlo | but I struggle to get everything out of the discussions here sometimes |
| 04:33.10 | memilyrae | herlo: the one I like the most has annifont and it seems like that will be too hard to read |
| 04:33.11 | herlo | and put them into email/wiki |
| 04:33.19 | herlo | memilyrae: yes, me too |
| 04:33.39 | memilyrae | herlo: should we just do it and see if we should change it for next year? |
| 04:33.40 | fozzmoo | I think every new bit of information should be e-mailed out to utos-plan. |
| 04:33.47 | Tene | herlo: is there a mailing list for wiki edits? |
| 04:33.50 | herlo | fozzmoo: so what I am saying is that I do the best that I can |
| 04:34.01 | herlo | Tene: no, I've not set up a script for that |
| 04:34.04 | fozzmoo | herlo: Yeah. I guess that means I need to be more proactive. |
| 04:34.06 | Tene | If so, sounds like that would work well for fozz. |
| 04:34.06 | herlo | but there is an rss feed IIRC |
| 04:34.24 | herlo | Tene: yeah, that comes down to resources. |
| 04:34.33 | herlo | I only have 24 hours in a day like everyone else :) |
| 04:34.45 | herlo | and work takes at least 6 of that most days :) |
| 04:34.46 | Tene | nods. |
| 04:35.02 | herlo | so that only leaves 12 hours after 6 hrs of sleep |
| 04:35.04 | fozzmoo | And I'm editing stupid video for YouTube every day now. |
| 04:35.07 | herlo | can't survive on less |
| 04:35.08 | Tene | Wait, I know that fozz used to track a few rss feeds regularly... |
| 04:35.14 | fozzmoo | nods |
| 04:35.22 | herlo | finds the rss feed for the wiki |
| 04:35.22 | fozzmoo | I can do that. |
| 04:35.43 | fozzmoo | I even have QuickNews on my Centro |
| 04:35.54 | Tene | No more treo? |
| 04:36.00 | herlo | its not perfect, but I do make changes from time to time so its not really verbose or anything |
| 04:36.05 | herlo | Tene: centro is the step up |
| 04:36.08 | Tene | Ah. |
| 04:36.09 | herlo | or down depending on your pov |
| 04:36.27 | memilyrae | all - I'm doing the polo1 design unless someone strongly disapproves. I'm tired of waiting and I HOPE it won't be too late to order them. So, speak now or shut up :0D |
| 04:36.46 | herlo | memilyrae: k |
| 04:37.02 | herlo | if it looks great we will thank you, crappy and we'll blame CANADA!! |
| 04:37.14 | memilyrae | herlo: works for me |
| 04:37.16 | memilyrae | :-D |
| 04:37.25 | herlo | and you! |
| 04:37.52 | memilyrae | ~lart herlo |
| 04:37.52 | infobot | takes out a seltzer bottle and sprays herlo in the face. You know, one of those old-school seltzer bottles clowns have? Yeah those. Anyway, consider yourself spritzed |
| 04:38.02 | herlo | ~monkey memilyrae |
| 04:38.02 | infobot | ACTION flings poo at memilyrae |
| 04:38.17 | fozzmoo | One of the nicer things monkeys do. |
| 04:38.22 | memilyrae | ~compile herlo |
| 04:38.23 | infobot | ACTION runs gcc -o herlo.o on herlo |
| 04:39.09 | herlo | ~cook memilyrae |
| 04:39.09 | infobot | ACTION throws memilyrae in a big pan with veggies inside and cooks memilyrae on 350 for an hour |
| 04:39.31 | herlo | ~fling memilyrae |
| 04:39.32 | infobot | ACTION flings poo at memilyrae |
| 04:39.39 | herlo | ~flick |
| 04:39.44 | findlay | ~flock |
| 04:39.44 | infobot | Flock stands for Fortune Locker and is a small ncurses terminal locker with support for printing fortunes.. URL: http://capsi.cx/src/flock/flock-0.1.0.tar.bz2 |
| 04:39.44 | herlo | ~flick memilyrae |
| 04:39.49 | findlay | ~flack |
| 04:39.49 | infobot | well, flack is a type of anti-aircraft weapon, or the excessive/abusive criticism people might give you if they don't like something you do |
| 04:40.09 | fozzmoo | ~cladding |
| 04:45.58 | herlo | fozzmoo: seems moinmoin needs a couple pieces to make wiki work |
| 04:46.00 | herlo | rss |
| 04:46.12 | fozzmoo | ok |
| 04:48.59 | herlo | fozzmoo: so I'll work on that tomorrow |
| 04:49.03 | herlo | adds it to his task list |
| 04:49.13 | fozzmoo | K. |
| 04:49.26 | whiteinge | herlo: I forgot about hackfest! |
| 04:49.35 | whiteinge | ~lart whiteinge |
| 04:49.35 | infobot | does a little 'renice 20 -u whiteinge' |
| 04:49.44 | herlo | whiteinge: that's okay, so did I, kindof |
| 04:49.47 | herlo | ~lart herlo |
| 04:49.47 | infobot | gives herlo a "free" copy of Windows and then charges double for "Upgrades" |
| 04:49.55 | whiteinge | lol |
| 04:50.00 | herlo | whiteinge: however, I have a tester for winders |
| 04:50.01 | whiteinge | looks like I got off easy |
| 04:50.08 | herlo | whiteinge: well, sorta |
| 04:50.13 | fozzmoo | herlo: Who's the goto person for Open Source Awards? |
| 04:50.14 | herlo | wondered if you could help for about an hour |
| 04:50.20 | herlo | fozzmoo: you! :) |
| 04:50.21 | fozzmoo | Do we have any nominations? |
| 04:50.29 | fozzmoo | Me!? |
| 04:50.32 | herlo | fozzmoo: no, but we need to generate a better page |
| 04:50.34 | herlo | lol, no |
| 04:50.41 | whiteinge | Yay, a Windows tester! |
| 04:50.56 | herlo | http://blog.utos.org/utah-open-source-community-awards/ |
| 04:50.56 | fozzmoo | watched War Games tonight. |
| 04:51.09 | fozzmoo | Picked up the 25th anniversary DVD. |
| 04:51.22 | herlo | whiteinge: what I need is help understanding how to make css do different things for different os/browser combinations |
| 04:51.25 | herlo | fozzmoo: nice |
| 04:51.48 | herlo | fozzmoo: thta page could be better and we should have a flatpage on our current conference page |
| 04:52.02 | whiteinge | herlo: Your best bet for that is to just keep tweaking the CSS until the same code is passible in all browsers. |
| 04:52.22 | fozzmoo | unfortunately, whiteinge is right. |
| 04:52.24 | whiteinge | Rarely you can use a conditional to send different CSS to IE though. |
| 04:52.29 | herlo | whiteinge: I'm no good at css, haven't the foggiest where to shat |
| 04:52.36 | herlo | yes, I typed shat! |
| 04:52.39 | fozzmoo | SHAT! |
| 04:52.43 | fozzmoo | FRAKKin SHAT! |
| 04:52.44 | herlo | I shat on the CSS |
| 04:52.46 | whiteinge | Where's the problem at? I'll take a look. |
| 04:53.01 | herlo | http://www.nzosa.org.nz/ <-- this is what utos awards should be |
| 04:53.06 | fozzmoo | You can use server side tricks to serve up a diff. CSS file based on the User Agent |
| 04:53.41 | herlo | whiteinge: getting a screenshot now |
| 04:53.56 | fozzmoo | I gotta run. tty |
| 04:54.17 | herlo | whiteinge: the biggest problem I saw was that the left and right sides of the page were fine, but the middle (where the content is) had to be scrolled down to see |
| 04:54.26 | herlo | an entire page below everything else so it looks blank |
| 04:55.21 | herlo | fozzmoo: I'll send this to you in an email |
| 04:56.37 | whiteinge | herlo: What browser? IE? |
| 04:57.31 | decriptor | I love the fact that I don't recognize lots of the names of the people that have registered |
| 04:57.44 | herlo | whiteinge: yes |
| 04:58.09 | herlo | decriptor: k, so what is the status on the catering gig? Did you talk with Shauna today? |
| 05:04.24 | herlo | decriptor: ?? |
| 05:08.42 | herlo | whiteinge: help is now looking, should have something shortly |
| 05:09.16 | whiteinge | Actually, I think I've got it. |
| 05:09.33 | whiteinge | found a copy of IE since last we spoke |
| 05:10.03 | *** join/#utos undertakingyou (n=will@undertakingyou.dsl.xmission.com) |
| 05:10.04 | *** mode/#utos [+o undertakingyou] by ChanServ |
| 05:11.02 | herlo | whiteinge: you did? |
| 05:11.05 | herlo | wow |
| 05:11.20 | herlo | needs a course on css one day |
| 05:11.32 | herlo | sort of gets it but fails regularly |
| 05:11.38 | herlo | undertakingyou: I see you've returned :) |
| 05:11.49 | undertakingyou | Sorry, had to do a restart :( |
| 05:11.55 | herlo | more wireless issus? |
| 05:11.55 | undertakingyou | How's it going. |
| 05:12.06 | undertakingyou | No, the clock wouldn't let me change the time. |
| 05:12.08 | herlo | undertakingyou: good, wanted to follow-up with you about tomorrow |
| 05:12.16 | undertakingyou | So, I restarted and all is good |
| 05:12.19 | undertakingyou | herlo: shoot |
| 05:12.31 | undertakingyou | waits for the follow up. |
| 05:12.51 | herlo | whiteinge: http://www.digitalthom.com/images/utosc.png |
| 05:13.05 | herlo | undertakingyou: I understand you and Heartsbane are going to visit iwth Emily tomorrow right? |
| 05:13.16 | undertakingyou | Yeah, we talked about lunch and doing that. |
| 05:13.26 | herlo | whiteinge: that's on mac with IE btw |
| 05:13.26 | undertakingyou | I have to donate blood tomorrow too :) |
| 05:13.32 | herlo | ooh, fun |
| 05:14.29 | herlo | undertakingyou: the reason I ask, is that I wanted to get together with you a little early tomorrow and work on signs/banners together. You up for that? SLCC at say 5:30 or 6pm? |
| 05:14.50 | undertakingyou | oh, before the meeting |
| 05:15.11 | whiteinge | IE on Wine on a Mac? |
| 05:15.30 | undertakingyou | whiteinge: wine isn't on the mac |
| 05:15.36 | undertakingyou | mac has a native install of ie. |
| 05:15.43 | herlo | whiteinge: no, its someone who has a mac |
| 05:16.29 | whiteinge | There's a Mac port of Wine. And the last official IE release for the Mac is *ancient*... |
| 05:17.01 | herlo | not really. |
| 05:17.04 | herlo | its IE 6 |
| 05:17.25 | *** join/#utos Gate (n=gate@unaffiliated/gate) |
| 05:18.44 | whiteinge | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer_for_Mac |
| 05:18.55 | whiteinge | Last release was IE 5 |
| 05:19.41 | herlo | k |
| 05:19.47 | herlo | but this guy claims IE 6 |
| 05:19.49 | herlo | not sure |
| 05:20.10 | whiteinge | np |
| 05:20.49 | herlo | anyway, do you have a fix for it then? and if so, maybe you can give me css lessons one day... |
| 05:20.56 | herlo | I'm able to hack my way around a little |
| 05:21.14 | tensai | ie for the mac is not worth supporting. microsoft themselves recommend you upgrade to safari. |
| 05:21.33 | herlo | tensai: yes, that's what the wikipedia article above said ^^ |
| 05:21.34 | herlo | :) |
| 05:21.50 | tensai | we've gone through this with a few customers |
| 05:22.02 | whiteinge | herlo: yes, I do (testing it, atm), and yes I'd love to |
| 05:22.29 | herlo | whiteinge: k, after UTOSC, I'll look for lessons, maybe on the flight/drive to djangocon |
| 05:22.40 | herlo | asked today about travel, still don't know |
| 05:22.41 | whiteinge | we'll certainly have the time |
| 05:22.45 | whiteinge | no worries |
| 05:22.52 | herlo | yeah, just giving updates |
| 05:23.10 | herlo | tensai: maybe you could help with some different screen resolutions for ff3 ?? |
| 05:23.14 | herlo | utosc.com |
| 05:24.04 | tensai | sure. what resolutions you want? |
| 05:24.26 | herlo | any/all |
| 05:24.32 | herlo | is at 1600x1200 for now |
| 05:24.44 | tensai | pulls out web developer |
| 05:24.56 | whiteinge | is having problems with svn swtich |
| 05:25.08 | herlo | damned svn! |
| 05:28.55 | herlo | whiteinge: http://dl.utosc.com/08/misc/utosc-sponsors-squish.png <-- sponsors page does weird things |
| 05:29.21 | herlo | also, I'd like the flatpage links to span the entire page. Is this stuff hard? |
| 05:29.45 | whiteinge | Checking in IE 6 fix. Taking a look at the squish now. |
| 05:31.20 | whiteinge | herlo: sometimes it's hard if you have multiple bugs overlapping. |
| 05:31.22 | herlo | sweet. I'll apply it as soon as it arrives |
| 05:31.24 | tensai | herlo: http://www.zmonkey.org/~tensai/utosc/ |
| 05:31.32 | herlo | tensai: great! |
| 05:32.12 | herlo | okay, so 640x480 might be a little small. Let me look at some statistics |
| 05:32.33 | herlo | but 800x600 looks horrible... |
| 05:33.07 | tensai | I don't expect many techies are using 640x480. but it was easy so I did one. |
| 05:33.08 | whiteinge | Ah, crap. My fix has a large minimum width. herlo, wait a sec before applying it, it's related to the squishing. |
| 05:33.13 | herlo | I think the page at 1024x768 is almost ideal, but it needs to spread the links across the entire page (and maybe a smaller font?) |
| 05:33.26 | herlo | whiteinge: I've not adjusted anything yet |
| 05:34.11 | tensai | it's hard to look at a screenshot of my own window. I keep trying to close it. |
| 05:34.34 | whiteinge | heh |
| 05:34.42 | herlo | tensai: lol |
| 05:35.14 | herlo | so the main resolutions I see are 800x600, 1600x1200 (whichis fine) 1280x1024 and a bunch of unknown. |
| 05:35.35 | herlo | my guess, the unknown are 1024x768 or 800x600 on windows mostly |
| 05:35.48 | herlo | and we should code for those sizes. Bigger screens are gravy... |
| 05:35.57 | tensai | I never fullscreen my browser window |
| 05:36.25 | tensai | right now it's 1100x800 |
| 05:36.27 | tensai | roughly |
| 05:36.28 | herlo | I almost always do, but I am sure a lot of people don't |
| 05:36.37 | herlo | does it look good? |
| 05:36.52 | tensai | yeah. I've never noticed any problems with it, from day one. |
| 05:37.19 | herlo | figures, people who know how to use computers don't have the issue |
| 05:37.23 | herlo | ;) |
| 05:38.25 | undertakingyou | herlo: I just installed safari for windows through wine and it looks good here. |
| 05:38.36 | undertakingyou | for what it is worth :\ |
| 05:39.02 | herlo | undertakingyou: try squishing it and take screenshots |
| 05:39.06 | herlo | if you like |
| 05:40.02 | herlo | is watching synchronized diving |
| 05:40.29 | herlo | off and on, that is |
| 05:41.27 | tensai | oh, yuck. IE6 on win2k looks awful. |
| 05:41.32 | tensai | lemme get a screenshot of this. |
| 05:41.45 | herlo | yes, plz |
| 05:43.45 | tensai | herlo: two more pics posted, same url |
| 05:44.22 | herlo | gross yes |
| 05:44.43 | herlo | tensai: yes, that's what I was referring to |
| 05:44.52 | undertakingyou | http://www.larkinmortuary.com/will/ |
| 05:45.03 | undertakingyou | there are the screenshots ^^^ |
| 05:46.19 | herlo | looks |
| 05:47.14 | herlo | undertakingyou: ooh fun! |
| 05:47.33 | herlo | wants to know the sizes on these resolution wise |
| 05:47.46 | herlo | undertakingyou: are these the same as the size says in the browser? |
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| 05:49.08 | mindjuju | decriptor or memilrae |
| 05:49.13 | mindjuju | either of you guys around? |
| 05:49.35 | mindjuju | err, memilyrae i mean |
| 05:50.06 | herlo | mindjuju: anything I can help with? |
| 05:50.32 | mindjuju | well, was going to see what time they were headed up and if i could carpool with them for tomorrow's meet |
| 05:50.43 | herlo | ahh, indeed |
| 05:50.47 | mindjuju | :) |
| 05:50.54 | herlo | mindjuju: well, I can't help with that |
| 05:51.05 | mindjuju | but i think i might have caught them too late |
| 05:51.22 | decriptor | mindjuju: hi |
| 05:51.40 | mindjuju | decriptor, hey guys are still up |
| 05:51.41 | memilyrae | mindjuju: hey! |
| 05:51.47 | mindjuju | hey! |
| 05:51.50 | memilyrae | :) |
| 05:51.59 | decriptor | mindjuju: oh yeah, tons of futurama to go |
| 05:52.01 | mindjuju | so, what time are ya'll headed up tomorrow |
| 05:52.07 | herlo | whiteinge: any update? |
| 05:52.11 | memilyrae | we're meeting at 7? |
| 05:52.19 | mindjuju | futuramama is awesome, especially the flirm episode |
| 05:52.25 | whiteinge | herlo: yeah, almost there. five minutes. |
| 05:52.34 | mindjuju | isn't the meeting at 7p tomorrow |
| 05:52.45 | mindjuju | is that the college meet or is that an IRC meet? |
| 05:52.51 | herlo | whiteinge: cool, just checking in |
| 05:52.58 | herlo | mindjuju: college meet |
| 05:53.05 | herlo | memilyrae: mindjuju: 7:30 |
| 05:53.05 | mindjuju | thought it was |
| 05:53.08 | herlo | but yeah |
| 05:53.16 | herlo | points to an email he sent yesterday |
| 05:53.21 | memilyrae | mindjuju: I think we'll leave around 630 |
| 05:53.29 | undertakingyou | herlo: I just made the browser progressively smaller |
| 05:53.32 | mindjuju | any chance i can catch a ride with you guys? |
| 05:53.40 | undertakingyou | So, they are the exact size of the picture. |
| 05:53.50 | herlo | undertakingyou: perfect... |
| 05:53.59 | memilyrae | mindjuju: sure thing! We have to bring our kiddos but we have plenty of room. |
| 05:54.10 | mindjuju | awesome! |
| 05:54.32 | mindjuju | i can swing over to you guy's homestead at 6:15 |
| 05:55.03 | memilyrae | mindjuju: that works |
| 05:55.07 | memilyrae | we'll see you then! |
| 05:55.24 | mindjuju | awesome, when you get a moment, cna you send over address in PM or email |
| 05:55.39 | memilyrae | mindjuju: sure thing |
| 06:04.25 | whiteinge | herlo: couple more mins |
| 06:04.53 | herlo | whiteinge: k |
| 06:04.55 | herlo | still here |
| 06:05.06 | herlo | really appreciates the ehlp |
| 06:12.10 | whiteinge | 80% of CSS time is always ironing out shitty IE bugs |
| 06:12.18 | whiteinge | Why can't that browser just DIE already! |
| 06:12.42 | herlo | lol, if only |
| 06:14.40 | whiteinge | woo! |
| 06:14.58 | whiteinge | few minutes for testing and I'll check it in |
| 06:15.06 | herlo | k, so you got it? |
| 06:15.12 | herlo | alright! |
| 06:15.12 | whiteinge | looks that way |
| 06:15.20 | herlo | yay!! |
| 06:15.23 | herlo | stupid IE |
| 06:20.28 | whiteinge | herlo: Checked in my changes. |
| 06:20.57 | whiteinge | Please test! |
| 06:21.54 | whiteinge | This particular layout method should resize much, much better. |
| 06:22.16 | whiteinge | Tested in IE 6, FF3, Safari. |
| 06:23.09 | whiteinge | Goddammit! Breaks in IE 7. One sec. |
| 06:23.09 | herlo | k, testing on my box first |
| 06:23.26 | herlo | k, I'll start testing with this... |
| 06:23.30 | whiteinge | k |
| 06:26.01 | whiteinge | learned something new tonight |
| 06:26.21 | whiteinge | I never get to work on fluid layouts. They're not as popular as I think they should be. |
| 06:27.10 | herlo | whiteinge: what do you mean fluid? |
| 06:27.23 | herlo | btw, about the images on right/left. Should they be smaller? |
| 06:28.30 | whiteinge | they fit in this particular layout, so the size doesn't bother me. what do you think? |
| 06:28.59 | herlo | well, on a 800x600 they take up a good half or more of the screen |
| 06:28.59 | whiteinge | Fluid meaning the middle column flexes depending on browser size. |
| 06:29.20 | herlo | I think we're shooting for 1024x768 though so about 1/3 still |
| 06:29.30 | herlo | maybe I should shrink them down to 100px |
| 06:29.43 | whiteinge | Yeah, 10x7 is a good minimum these days. |
| 06:29.47 | herlo | would that give us more room? |
| 06:29.55 | whiteinge | Yes it would. |
| 06:30.00 | herlo | k, I'll start on that right now |
| 06:30.08 | herlo | won't take but a few minuts |
| 06:30.15 | whiteinge | herlo: It may be ok as is. |
| 06:30.35 | whiteinge | I'd guess a lot of people are running > 1024 |
| 06:31.12 | herlo | according to the stats, 16x12 is most popular besides unknown |
| 06:31.26 | whiteinge | Interesting. I don't think it looks bad in a 1024 window. |
| 06:31.46 | herlo | there are a few 1280x1025 |
| 06:31.48 | whiteinge | Shrinking the images would give us more room, but I don't think it's worth the (minimal) trouble. |
| 06:31.48 | herlo | 4 |
| 06:31.58 | herlo | k, just checking |
| 06:32.11 | herlo | its really not that difficult, convert is a great tool |
| 06:32.41 | whiteinge | Your call. |
| 06:33.40 | herlo | k, i'll consider what I'm doing and see what I get |
| 06:34.48 | whiteinge | I lost the whole LUG column in IE 7, and I'm not sure why. |
| 06:34.57 | whiteinge | Why can't there be a Firebug for IE?! |
| 06:36.30 | findlay | ~BOOKFACE whiteinge |
| 06:37.20 | whiteinge | wuzzat? |
| 06:39.00 | findlay | infobot: BOOKFACE $dude is <action> slaps $dude onto his facebook friend wall |
| 06:39.01 | infobot | okay, findlay |
| 06:39.27 | whiteinge | heh |
| 06:40.59 | whiteinge | Ug, could the IE Web Developer Toolbar be more annoying and less useful? |
| 06:41.17 | whiteinge | No, wait. I'd like it to be the other way around. |
| 06:45.35 | herlo | what? |
| 06:46.41 | findlay | ~bookface herlo |
| 06:46.42 | infobot | ACTION slaps herlo onto his facebook friend wall |
| 06:46.48 | herlo | w00t! |
| 06:47.58 | herlo | ~simpsons findlay |
| 06:47.59 | infobot | ACTION sends findlay chasing a rolling pink donut down the hill screaming, "its still good!, its still good!" |
| 06:51.00 | herlo | whiteinge: is that your final revision? or do we have another one in the pipe? |
| 06:51.31 | whiteinge | herlo: That revision does *not* work in IE 7. The whole LUG column dissapears off-page. |
| 06:51.38 | herlo | do we care? |
| 06:51.44 | herlo | is that the only thing that sucks ?? |
| 06:51.47 | whiteinge | At this point I have *no idea* why. |
| 06:51.56 | whiteinge | Yes, that looks like the only wart. |
| 06:52.03 | herlo | k, so I tried out your changes and I have only a couple comments... |
| 06:52.21 | whiteinge | ok, hit me |
| 06:52.35 | herlo | one is, the links across the top (Home | About | schedule | ) do not span the entire page. |
| 06:52.55 | herlo | is this good? I think not. I don't like the way they wrap. How can we make them scale better? |
| 06:53.17 | whiteinge | I looked into that. The easiest way is to move them out of the content container. |
| 06:53.39 | herlo | is that something I can do? |
| 06:53.45 | herlo | doesn't sound too hard |
| 06:53.50 | herlo | looks at base.html |
| 06:54.34 | whiteinge | yeah, it shouldn't be too bad. |
| 06:54.45 | herlo | tries the change |
| 06:54.51 | whiteinge | you'll have to figure out what to do to keep them from being hidden by the logo thoughy |
| 06:55.04 | herlo | huh? |
| 06:55.25 | herlo | on my screen, that doesn't happen |
| 06:55.53 | whiteinge | ah, well good |
| 06:55.57 | herlo | http://dl.utosc.com/08/misc/utosc-sponsors-squish.png |
| 06:56.08 | herlo | but, I would like to move it in a bit from the right.. |
| 06:56.14 | herlo | from the left, rather |
| 06:56.21 | herlo | maybe even center it and have it expand out... |
| 06:56.40 | herlo | whiteinge: recommendations on this? I'd just use the <center> tag, but I am sure that's not appropriate |
| 06:57.17 | whiteinge | which bug are we talking about? |
| 06:57.35 | herlo | the links |
| 06:57.41 | herlo | home | about ... |
| 06:58.27 | whiteinge | try something like <div style="text-align: center; margin-left: 200px;">... |
| 06:58.40 | whiteinge | (or put those styles in default.css |
| 06:58.42 | whiteinge | ) |
| 06:59.17 | whiteinge | (is that what you were askign?) |
| 07:00.57 | herlo | yes, hacking css |
| 07:01.03 | herlo | sux0rz at it though |
| 07:01.51 | herlo | what's the different/benefit to em's vs px? |
| 07:02.40 | whiteinge | the difference/benefit is very dependent on what you're trying to accomplish |
| 07:03.08 | herlo | whiteinge: also, I'm trying to cut the dotted line off on the right hand side about as far in as the left, but margin-right seems to be incorrect. |
| 07:04.07 | herlo | nm, think I got that |
| 07:04.12 | whiteinge | how do you mean? |
| 07:04.15 | whiteinge | ah |
| 07:04.17 | whiteinge | good |
| 07:04.25 | whiteinge | I think I found a IE 7 fix |
| 07:05.26 | herlo | k, so what I mean is that the dashed line is going all the way to the right hand side of the browser, I'd like to cut it off |
| 07:05.43 | herlo | for now, I added back in the text-align: center but I don't really like that solution |
| 07:05.50 | herlo | figured margin-right woudl do the trick, but no dice |
| 07:06.30 | herlo | I'm gonna put it up like this and see what you think |
| 07:06.39 | whiteinge | k |
| 07:09.12 | whiteinge | herlo: just checked in IE 7 fix |
| 07:10.41 | herlo | whiteinge: k, see my changes and how they affect the browser |
| 07:10.53 | herlo | I've uploaded and changed them on the live site. brokened! |
| 07:11.08 | whiteinge | I see what you mean. |
| 07:11.44 | herlo | it moved the sponsors down on the right as well |
| 07:12.09 | herlo | its weird, the center didn't even take place, let me force refresh... |
| 07:12.27 | herlo | there, that's better, but still not good enough |
| 07:13.43 | whiteinge | herlo: So you want the links to expand the full width of the page, but the dotted line to stay the same width as the center column? |
| 07:14.06 | herlo | http://dl.utosc.com/08/misc/utosc-screen2.png |
| 07:14.12 | herlo | whiteinge: no |
| 07:14.24 | herlo | whiteinge: I want the dotted line to be in just a little bit from eithe rside |
| 07:14.33 | herlo | which I faked so far |
| 07:14.43 | whiteinge | gotcha |
| 07:14.49 | herlo | using the width: 90% |
| 07:15.11 | herlo | you should see the changes I made in lmenu |
| 07:15.14 | herlo | and in base.html |
| 07:16.53 | whiteinge | herlo: What's bad about your 90% fix? |
| 07:17.13 | herlo | its not horrible, just that it doesn't really do what I want |
| 07:17.20 | herlo | I want it to be exact on the right and left |
| 07:17.28 | herlo | a couple em's away from the edges |
| 07:17.32 | herlo | but its okay |
| 07:17.45 | whiteinge | oh, but now if the window gets too small it's too close to the right side? |
| 07:18.15 | herlo | whiteinge: no, not really. It was just not exact is all |
| 07:18.29 | whiteinge | herlo: do this: |
| 07:18.33 | herlo | another thing that's bugging me now though is the location of the LUGS and Sponsors, so far down the page |
| 07:18.43 | herlo | whiteinge: I'm happy enough with it |
| 07:18.52 | herlo | it == dashes |
| 07:19.25 | whiteinge | It's a quick fix for the dotted line: remove all the margin declarations and replace 'em with just "margin: 1em auto;" |
| 07:19.38 | herlo | hmm, k |
| 07:20.33 | herlo | yeah, I kinda like that, and without the center |
| 07:20.38 | herlo | alignment |
| 07:20.52 | herlo | another thing that's bugging me now though is the location of the LUGS and Sponsors, so far down the page |
| 07:21.06 | whiteinge | herlo: Remove my margin-top: 4em to fix that |
| 07:21.15 | herlo | http://dl.utosc.com/08/misc/utosc-screen2.png |
| 07:21.16 | whiteinge | for the left and right menus |
| 07:21.18 | herlo | whiteinge: oh, okay |
| 07:21.25 | herlo | hang on, gotta find that |
| 07:21.41 | whiteinge | +335 |
| 07:21.47 | whiteinge | +371 |
| 07:22.27 | whiteinge | herlo: those declarations made them line up with the middle block at one point, but not now. |
| 07:22.58 | whiteinge | herlo: Also remove the +354 "margin-top: 1em;" |
| 07:23.26 | herlo | k |
| 07:23.45 | herlo | is that line 354? |
| 07:23.48 | whiteinge | yeah |
| 07:24.18 | herlo | that explains why I was having to put in margin-top: -1em; hehe |
| 07:24.34 | whiteinge | needs to call it a night |
| 07:24.47 | herlo | k, one last thing but I'm almost completely satisfied |
| 07:24.52 | whiteinge | ok |
| 07:24.54 | herlo | whiteinge: easy peasy too |
| 07:25.08 | herlo | right images, can we push them against the right hand side? |
| 07:25.26 | herlo | it seems to be left justified, what if we right justified, or center those? |
| 07:26.21 | whiteinge | Put text-align: right (or center) in the block on +371 |
| 07:26.37 | whiteinge | center looks ok |
| 07:26.52 | whiteinge | right needs addtl work if we go that route |
| 07:27.40 | herlo | yes, I like center |
| 07:27.59 | herlo | center it is. tx |
| 07:28.05 | whiteinge | cool |
| 07:28.08 | herlo | have a good evening |
| 07:28.12 | whiteinge | ty, you too |
| 07:28.13 | herlo | and thank you very much |
| 07:28.24 | whiteinge | np! glad hacknight wasn't a bust after all |
| 07:29.16 | herlo | hehe, yeah |
| 07:29.33 | herlo | committing changes and updating. Then off to bed myself :) |
| 07:29.49 | whiteinge | g'night then! |
| 07:30.14 | herlo | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:30.34 | whiteinge | woo! |
| 07:31.01 | herlo | gnight man, thanks again! |
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| 14:17.43 | tensai | herlo: you must have made changes last night. looks much better in IE6. |
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| 14:53.52 | herlo | tensai: we did! |
| 14:54.14 | herlo | tensai: it was whiteinge, I blame^H^H^H^H^Hpraise him! |
| 15:04.05 | herlo | fozzmoo: ping |
| 15:04.12 | fozzmoo | herlo: pong |
| 15:04.16 | herlo | fozzmoo: hi |
| 15:04.22 | fozzmoo | herlo: Good morning. |
| 15:04.38 | herlo | fozzmoo: did you see my email from last night? |
| 15:05.00 | fozzmoo | Not yet, but I'm not through going through all my e-mail. Just barely got to work. |
| 15:05.07 | herlo | oh, perfect... |
| 15:05.12 | herlo | will leave fozzmoo alone then |
| 15:09.38 | fozzmoo | Alright. Saw your e-mail messages. Thanks. |
| 15:11.51 | herlo | fozzmoo: thanks |
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| 15:12.39 | herlo | fozzmoo: and it reads well! |
| 15:12.47 | fozzmoo | Thanks. |
| 15:12.49 | herlo | loves it when fozzmoo writes |
| 15:12.55 | herlo | such skill |
| 15:13.07 | fozzmoo | heh |
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| 15:15.57 | herlo | fozzmoo: I'm srious |
| 15:16.03 | herlo | serious even! |
| 15:27.30 | peno | no wai! |
| 15:27.39 | herlo | ya wai! |
| 15:34.22 | peno | <3's the interface range command |
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| 15:38.00 | herlo | peno: for iptables? |
| 15:38.09 | peno | herlo: nope, for cisco. :) |
| 15:38.16 | herlo | ahh, indeed |
| 15:47.58 | opapo | For those who were ribbing me the other day I am not using root for my irc connection |
| 15:48.19 | opapo | My server was taken down to create an image of it and I lost that connection |
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| 16:04.35 | peno | curses portfast |
| 16:07.52 | tristanbob_ | peno, me too |
| 16:08.04 | tristanbob_ | I am sad when I have to work on our older switches that do not support it |
| 16:08.12 | tristanbob_ | RE: the range command |
| 16:09.15 | peno | tristanbob_: especially when it's a 48+ port switch. |
| 16:10.41 | tristanbob_ | peno, yup |
| 16:10.51 | tristanbob_ | otherwise it is a cut and paste thing |
| 16:11.09 | peno | just tedious without it. |
| 16:13.43 | peno | I would really really really like if cisco added the command to the 3500XL's at least. |
| 16:32.35 | herlo | whiteinge: ping |
| 16:32.43 | herlo | re: UTPyUG meeting this eek |
| 16:32.44 | herlo | week |
| 16:33.14 | peno | ~eek herlo |
| 16:33.41 | peno | I'm so glad this call is only once a month. |
| 16:33.43 | peno | is bored |
| 16:55.09 | decriptor | is there a way to have the output of a bash script dump to a file automatically with have to add '> file' when calling the script |
| 16:55.57 | Jayce^ | herlo, windley can't do the friday afternoon keynote.. |
| 16:59.18 | whiteinge | herlo: pong |
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| 17:24.01 | herlo | whiteinge: can you record the UTPyUG meeting tomorrow |
| 17:24.23 | herlo | I was going to go, but the HOA meeting decided to be right at the same time... |
| 17:24.24 | whiteinge | herlo: yup |
| 17:24.32 | herlo | I'm gonna see if we can move it to 6 and make it late instead |
| 17:24.56 | whiteinge | good luck. it's going to be a good topic |
| 17:25.19 | whiteinge | I've been using Mercurial for almost two weeks and love it. |
| 17:25.48 | whiteinge | If I had noticed that's what UPyUG is on this week I would've waited though. :P |
| 17:26.59 | herlo | isn't happy about the HOA thinking that we're all free at once |
| 17:27.08 | herlo | of course, they've had the wrong email for over a month |
| 17:27.17 | whiteinge | :( |
| 17:27.18 | herlo | even though I gave the right email to the guy |
| 17:28.02 | whiteinge | wonders if he can get his webcam working by tomorrow |
| 17:28.17 | herlo | whiteinge: if so, the audio is more important. |
| 17:28.28 | whiteinge | sure |
| 17:28.48 | herlo | whiteinge: I think one thing is that we could do a vnc session and use istanbul, which could stream the screencast |
| 17:28.57 | herlo | who's presenting and what machine do they have? |
| 17:29.06 | herlo | this is generally the issue I have with this sort of thing... |
| 17:29.45 | whiteinge | yeah, I think it's impossible ot rely on presenters hardware |
| 17:30.05 | Jayce^ | herlo, you see my note? |
| 17:34.31 | herlo | Jayce^: I did |
| 17:34.38 | herlo | Jayce^: busy in and out of meeting |
| 17:34.55 | herlo | Jayce^: can he do it on Saturday? |
| 17:35.12 | herlo | If so, he'll be competing with Christer |
| 17:35.43 | herlo | and we can put Tom Welch on Friday, though I wanted to have Tom on Sat because of what we're building on... |
| 17:36.08 | fozzmoo | FAMDAMNILY! |
| 17:36.10 | herlo | Jayce^: can he not present at all on Friday? |
| 17:36.15 | Jayce^ | he might be able too, but we are leaning on him a lot on TH.. |
| 17:36.20 | Jayce^ | friday afternoon at least is out |
| 17:38.43 | herlo | k, I thought his presentation was on Friday... |
| 17:41.34 | herlo | Jayce^: Friday, 10 am is Phil's presentation |
| 17:41.40 | herlo | can he not do that... |
| 17:42.28 | Jayce^ | he just said afternoon |
| 17:42.58 | herlo | okay |
| 17:43.02 | herlo | hmm... |
| 17:43.10 | herlo | hunts down another keynote possibly.. |
| 18:13.43 | fozzmoo | herlo: Did you ever talk to Erich @ T4 about video streaming bandwidth? |
| 18:19.09 | herlo | fozzmoo: not yet. I need to do that.. |
| 18:20.04 | fozzmoo | I |
| 18:20.08 | fozzmoo | I'll bug you daily. :) |
| 18:20.36 | herlo | fozzmoo: give me an email and / or a HM task |
| 18:20.56 | fozzmoo | Ok. I've never created tasks for other people in HM. Is it tricky> |
| 18:20.57 | fozzmoo | ? |
| 18:21.07 | herlo | no |
| 18:21.15 | herlo | how do you normally do it? |
| 18:21.23 | herlo | IM? Web? Email? |
| 18:21.28 | herlo | twitter? |
| 18:23.07 | fozzmoo | web |
| 18:23.22 | fozzmoo | I've never played with their IM or Twitter doodads. |
| 18:23.44 | fozzmoo | Okay. I added a task with you as the owner... |
| 18:23.51 | fozzmoo | but it shows up under sshaw |
| 18:24.21 | fozzmoo | Weird. |
| 18:26.14 | fozzmoo | Okay. I think I got it. |
| 18:26.16 | fozzmoo | You have a task. |
| 19:24.06 | tristanbob_ | herlo, have you considered f# for the key note? |
| 19:25.06 | jsmith | prefers a b flat |
| 19:25.41 | findlay | prefers to keep his tires at 40 psi |
| 19:27.17 | herlo | tristanbob_: who's f#? |
| 19:27.40 | findlay | I can present on tires |
| 19:29.08 | herlo | fozzmoo: can you change all links that point to utosc.org to utosc.com ?? |
| 19:29.15 | tristanbob_ | wants herlo to get his joke |
| 19:29.33 | herlo | tristanbob_: I just don't know who f# is... |
| 19:29.45 | herlo | doesn't wanna get it... |
| 19:30.06 | findlay | herlo: no humors left? |
| 19:38.27 | herlo | Heartsbane: ping |
| 19:42.49 | Jayce^ | herlo, check yer pm's |
| 19:45.00 | findlay | ~tease herlo |
| 19:45.00 | infobot | ACTION tickles herlo with a feather and makes herlo rotflmaopimp-ing |
| 19:46.40 | tristanbob_ | what do you call a day that is very crappy and very good all at the same time? |
| 19:48.33 | herlo | tristanbob_: Wednesday? |
| 19:48.52 | herlo | tristanbob_: Hump Day |
| 19:48.54 | tristanbob_ | or "today" |
| 20:23.28 | *** join/#utos peno (i=peno@slacknet.com) |
| 20:24.45 | Jayce^ | that's a singular title in this channel? |
| 20:25.22 | jsmith | Jayce^: Well, other people have other parts that are smart. I, for example, have a very smart elbow. |
| 20:26.07 | Jayce^ | like that hungarian weightlifter? |
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| 20:26.18 | findlay | heh |
| 20:26.40 | jsmith | Jayce^: That's not smart -- that's stupid! |
| 20:27.45 | findlay | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:44.57 | herlo | k |
| 21:21.40 | herlo | decriptor: ping |
| 21:23.47 | decriptor | herlo: not sure on that |
| 21:44.13 | mindjuju | ~apb decriptor memilyrae |
| 21:44.13 | infobot | ACTION calls Tim to stake out decriptor memilyrae |
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| 22:29.37 | herlo | heads to slcc, see you all tonight... |
| 22:31.58 | Heartsbane | no |
| 22:40.47 | fozzmoo | no? |
| 23:08.21 | peno | no. |
| 23:09.03 | Tene | no! |
| 23:15.44 | whiteinge | omgwtfbbqno |
| 23:18.35 | findlay | yes |
| 23:22.15 | peno | oh that's good. |
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| 23:47.12 | herlo | btw, you all should check your email before heading out to SLCC |
| 23:47.20 | herlo | those in the core team, that is :0- |
