IRC log for #utos on 20080805

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00:44.46penonope
00:59.34herlomemilyrae: ping
01:01.16memilyraeherlo: pong
01:01.19herlohi
01:01.27herlookay, let me give you a couple links for tshirsts
01:01.36herlohttp://www.sunglasses-shop.co.uk/glasses/oakleyclothing/451031-898.jpg
01:01.50herlofor volunteers btw, we've already chosen the one for attendees I think
01:01.58herlomemilyrae: I'll send you an email shortly
01:02.13memilyraeherlo: okay
01:02.58herlomemilyrae: sent
01:03.02herlothree emails
01:03.10herloshould all be part of the same conversation
01:03.19herlowe picked the stonewash green for attendees
01:04.16herlothe others are choices we're considering
01:04.20herlofor volunteers
01:04.47memilyraeherlo: k. let me look
01:08.16memilyraeherlo: okay...
01:08.22memilyraeherlo: I hate the gold
01:08.23herlomemilyrae: another one just popped into your box
01:08.38herlomemilyrae: yeah, I was semi-tempted, but that's why you are here
01:09.13memilyraeherlo: :)
01:09.27memilyraeherlo: I like the brown but I wonder if it'll be too dark to see the design
01:09.37memilyraeherlo: same with the blue (although I really like the blue)
01:09.41herlomemilyrae:I don't think so
01:09.48herlothe stonewash blue?
01:10.08herlothe sand is the one i was referring to liking, btw
01:10.08memilyraeherlo: yeah. won't the radioactive blue blend too much with the shirt color?
01:10.23herloyeah, which is why I didn't wanna choose it...
01:10.40herlobut the brown would probably work, though I am starting to like the sand
01:10.44memilyraeherlo: I like the dark brown better but the lighter brown would work better
01:11.14herlo(07:08:56 PM) Me: memilyrae is judging too now, so hold on
01:11.14herlo(07:10:46 PM) Jordy Gunderson: Tell her to hurry it up.
01:11.15herlo(07:10:51 PM) Jordy Gunderson: :)
01:11.18memilyraeherlo: If it'd work, my first choice would be blue, then dark brown
01:11.30memilyraeherlo: tell Jordy to bite me! ;)
01:11.46memilyraeherlo: but I also like the sand and light yellow
01:11.49memilyraeNOT the gold
01:11.57memilyraethat's my order of preference
01:13.07herloso the dark brown isn't one currently in jordy's collection, I provided that one to him
01:13.13herlomemilyrae: ^^
01:13.36memilyraeherlo: gotcha
01:14.00memilyraeI almost think the light yellow would stand out the most - logo-wise
01:14.21herloyeah, but you'd be spilling on it and it'd stick out :)
01:14.24herlo:( rather
01:15.38memilyraeI'd be spilling on it? What? Am I that messy? ;)
01:15.45memilyraethat's true
01:16.07herlolol, most nerds are
01:16.59memilyraetoo funny
01:17.06memilyraeSo, what did you decide?
01:17.17herlohe's too slow, just responded
01:18.05herlomemilyrae: check your email once more
01:20.54memilyraeherlo: k...I like the light blue one
01:21.17memilyraebut I still like the stonewash too
01:21.36herlomemilyrae: so do I, but do you think the light blue would work?
01:21.45herlojordy seems to think its too close...
01:22.01memilyraetoo close to the design?
01:22.02herlothe stonewash won't have any contrast but the brown will
01:22.09herloyes, too close to the design
01:22.15memilyraebrown or sand?
01:22.23herlobrown or sand doesn't matter
01:22.26memilyraeI don't really know how much I like the sand
01:22.50herlo(07:21:16 PM) Jordy Gunderson: :(
01:22.50herlo(07:21:35 PM) Jordy Gunderson: Tell her to hurry it up agian.  :)
01:22.51herlo(07:22:41 PM) Me: how about you join irc and tell her yourself
01:24.09memilyraeherlo: jordy: I gave my opinions ;) I'm not the one taking my sweet time
01:24.23herlois done being the middle man
01:26.39peno~abuse herlo
01:26.39infobotACTION smacks herlo across the face. "Take that, sucker!"
01:27.03herlo~whaleslap peno
01:27.04infobotACTION beats peno upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh
01:28.50herlomemilyrae: jordy wants to do spruce badly.
01:29.03herloso badly he's telling me that nothing else has 3x or larger
01:29.39memilyraeI thought Spruce was for the attendees
01:29.44herlonow he just said something different
01:29.47herlo(07:26:52 PM) Jordy Gunderson: It has 4 and 5, ironically
01:29.47herlo(07:27:05 PM) Jordy Gunderson: Spruce.  :)
01:29.47herlo(07:27:16 PM) Me: frack!
01:29.47herlo(07:27:19 PM) Jordy Gunderson: Stonewash green
01:29.47herlo(07:27:24 PM) Me: well, yeah
01:29.49herlo(07:28:22 PM) Jordy Gunderson: Actually, it looks like we can get brown 3x+ from a different warehouse.
01:29.52herlo(07:28:31 PM) Me: oh?
01:29.55herlomemilyrae: no, stonewash green
01:30.19herlodoesn't like the spruce though
01:30.22memilyraegreen spruce, stonewash blue...that's what makes sense
01:30.34herlohates it
01:30.42memilyraestonewash is the dark blue?
01:30.51herlono, they have names next to them
01:31.05memilyraenot in Photoshop where I put the logos on it! ;)
01:31.37herlolook at google, I cant help you if you aren't looking at the righ tplace :)
01:31.43herlodid the same thing btw
01:32.13memilyraeherlo: okay...so, he can probably get brown with the bigger sizes. I've like the brown for a while but I didn't know if the logo would stand out enough since it's a medium blue and black
01:32.41memilyraeherlo: p.s. - both the blue and green say stonewash ;)
01:32.43herlodid you try it?
01:32.53herlomemilyrae: right, they are both stonewash
01:33.03herlobut spruce doesn't say that, nor does brown
01:33.32herloos right now as it stands
01:33.43herloits stonewash green for attendees
01:33.50herloand brown for volunteers/staff
01:34.11memilyraeI see no shirts that are labeled "Spruce"
01:34.13herlostaff will get polos too, yes
01:34.20herlomemilyrae: that's because it sucks
01:34.27herlohang on, let me send it to you
01:34.46herlomemilyrae: sorry, thought I had
01:34.49herlosent
01:34.58memilyraek. either way is fine. I like the brown (but I've also been a fan of brown for a while now)
01:35.12memilyraeherlo: yikes...no spruce
01:35.23herloyay!
01:35.27memilyrae:)
01:35.46herlookay, so its as we stated above then
01:35.55herloordered and pricing will be coming shortly
01:36.11herlomemilyrae: have you gone by the po box this week?
01:36.31herloI know that decripto1 isn't there, but its a good excuse to visit your sister :)
01:36.54memilyraeI haven't left my house this week. tight on cash and still a while before payday...don't want to spend the money we have remaining on gas
01:37.07memilyraeI actually told my sister I wouldn't be coming down til after next payday
01:37.09memilyrae:)
01:39.32herlomemilyrae: pm
01:40.05tristanbobmemilyrae, have you sent receipts for sponsors?   (or can I get one)
01:41.43penospruce? wtf kind of color is spruce?
01:42.48memilyraetristanbob: what receipt would you need?
01:45.48herlomemilyrae: utah open tech
01:47.23tristanbobmemilyrae, yup, that be me
01:47.38tristanbobmy vendors are sharing the cost and want to see a receipt
01:49.20memilyraetristanbob: I'll get one together for you
01:49.27tristanbobmemilyrae, thanks!
01:50.14memilyraetristanbob: no prob! :)
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03:10.48decripto1Heartsbane: ping
03:11.32herlodecriptor: hi
03:11.46decriptorherlo: yo, long time
03:13.12herlodecriptor: hey, yup.
03:13.20herlojust figured I'd say hi
03:17.01decriptorgives a friendly wave
03:17.31Heartsbanedecriptor: pong
03:17.49decriptorHeartsbane: just checking in with you on that email
03:18.36Heartsbanedecriptor: when exactly are we putting those together?
03:18.47decriptornot sure
03:18.51decriptorI think in about 2 week
03:18.52decriptors
03:18.57Heartsbanek
03:18.59decriptormaybe next week
03:19.16decriptorI still have to get back home and then next week start working with novell to get the bags
03:19.41Heartsbaneyou on the road this week LWE?
03:20.31decriptoryup
03:20.49Heartsbanek well how about we start trading emails
03:21.12HeartsbaneI am going to crash
03:21.38HeartsbaneI will talk to you tomorrow, and we start working it out
03:21.50decriptorsounds good
03:21.54decriptorthanks
03:21.58Heartsbanenp
03:26.42herlodecriptor: Heartsbane: http://www.flickr.com/photos/herlo0/2733649801/in/pool-utosc
03:34.40Heartsbanenice night all
03:36.09undertakingyouevening
03:37.28herloundertakingyou: hi
03:39.16findlayherlo: ping
03:43.30herlofindlay: pong
03:44.24herloheads to bed in 5 minutes
03:49.16herlognight all
03:52.42findlayherlo: hi
04:15.52tensaidoesn't recognize anybody in those pictures
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13:23.37herlo~seen gregdek
13:23.40infoboti haven't seen 'gregdek', herlo
13:23.46herloinfobot: fine!
13:33.53peno~seen mysanity
13:33.56infoboti haven't seen 'mysanity', peno
13:35.21peno~fire infobot
13:35.21infobotI'm sorry, infobot, but it just isn't working out.  Pack up your stuff.
13:36.06herlo~seen peno
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13:36.15peno35?!
13:36.21herlo~seen herlo
13:36.22infobotherlo is currently on #utos (15h 53m 50s) #utah (15h 53m 50s) #uphpu (15h 53m 50s) #ubuntu-us-ut (15h 53m 50s). Has said a total of 89 messages. Is idling for 1s, last said: '~seen herlo'.
13:36.29penoI've said way much more garbage than that!
13:36.34herlopeno: it reset since the split probably
13:36.39penoprobably
13:36.44penolousy netsplits.
13:36.45herloit was also gone for a while last week
13:36.52herlos/it/she/
13:37.02herlo~gender
13:37.03infobotI'm male
13:37.16herlo~gender
13:37.17infobotI'm female
13:37.25herlo~gender peno
13:37.26infobotI heard peno is gay.
13:37.35herlooop!
13:37.42penoundertakingyou: http://tinyurl.com/7quys
13:37.44penowhat!?
13:37.54peno~liar infobot
13:38.31penoundertakingyou: looks like the WRT54GX is a discontinued model
13:39.06penowhich it's also just fugly.
13:40.25penoI really need central air. :(
13:40.49herloyes, you do!
13:41.07penoit's soooo expensive to have installed though.
13:41.31penoif I could ever get my buddy that works for Trane to come to visit though..
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16:11.47herlopeno: I have two brothers that do that for a living.  And they both like side work
16:14.40penoherlo: ah
16:19.19herlopeno: let me know if you are interested
16:26.07penoherlo: prob next year
16:32.17herlopeno: nw, let me know
16:32.35herloJayce^: fozzmoo: http://flickr.com/groups/771040@N20/ <-- what do you guys think about doing this?
16:36.42Jayce^just a pool?
16:36.46Jayce^or an actual contest?
16:38.05Jayce^herlo, what contacts do we have for the church, have a few friends there that are getting grief about wanting to come, we aren't "specific enough" for their jobs..
16:38.05Jayce^getting trouble with approval, as developers
16:38.13herloJayce^: I just got word back from Amy Quintanal and Cassie Telford that they are pushing the conference through OCS (iirc)
16:38.28herlolooks for the right name
16:38.46herloICS
16:39.16herloJayce^: just forwarded you the latest email fyi
16:40.37Jayce^thanks, will talk with those guys, see if I can get them in :)
16:40.46herlok, Jayce^ np
16:40.49herloJayce^: did you see my link?
16:41.29*** topic/#utos by herlo -> Utah Open Source - utos.org | Early Bird end Aug 7 @ utosc2008 - http://utosc.com | UTOSC Budget Mtg - 8/7 7:30pm MDT
16:41.56Jayce^the flickr one?
16:42.06herloyes
16:42.19herloread the post at the bottom and the title
16:42.41Jayce^right, but we only have one previous :)
16:43.23Jayce^so instead of ICS, we need a contact at FCH to spread the word...
16:43.23herlothat's not the point
16:43.34herloJayce^: email amy and tell her
16:44.13herloJayce^: for our photo contest, I was just thinking we'd give a $50 prize (gift card or something) to the best picture or something a month later
16:46.18Jayce^that's cool
16:47.11herloJayce^: on that email to amy, cc me too :)
16:52.29Jayce^oops, too late
16:53.06herloI assume you mentioned that I'd been talking with them right?
17:24.53Jayce^herlo, yeah, just got an email back from amy, she can't do much about FCH, but gave a couple ideas..
17:25.17Jayce^she did mention they are trying to figure out how to distribute their 25 discount codes...  did we want to up that so more can go?
17:25.24Jayce^don't let them feel limited to just that?
17:46.23Jayce^ok, they do want more than 25 if they can get them :)
17:50.56herlosend it to them np
17:50.59herloJayce^: ^^
17:51.20herloI just mentioned that there's 25 to start with, they can have as many as they like until Aug 14
17:51.41herloand the discount code doesn't end then, just the prices go up to $50
18:21.01Jayce^herlo, already did, they are having a meeting on TH and will get me the number they need :)
18:28.43herloJayce^: just up it to 100, I'd be surprised if they burn through more
20:44.53tristanbob_herlo, do you still need to fill some presentation spots
20:45.06tristanbob_I'd like to present on ziptie.org
20:48.59herlotristanbob_: we have them mostly filled...
20:49.20herlowants to give others who are not yet presenting the opportunity to do so.
20:50.00herlotristanbob_: got to http://ziptie.org and compare it to http://www.ziptie.org.  Very different
20:53.04tensaitristanbob_: why haven't you mentioned this to me before?!?
20:56.50tristanbob_tensai, I am in love with ZipTie
20:56.57tristanbob_it is so incredibly useful
20:57.01tensaiever used men & mice?
20:57.20tristanbob_nope, link?
20:57.35tensaihttp://www.menandmice.com/
20:57.44tristanbob_herlo, those websites are different?
20:57.51Jayce^yes
20:58.27tristanbob_Jayce^, how so?
20:58.40tristanbob_tensai, do you use menandmice?
20:58.49tensaiyes
20:59.29herlotristanbob_: yes
20:59.31Jayce^tristanbob, the www is the product webpage, without www I get the links to the apis...
20:59.47herlotristanbob_: just load them and see, its funner that way :)
20:59.59herloJayce^: discussing GL Troubleshooting challenge
21:00.09tristanbob_Jayce^, what browser?  I'm seeing the same page on both
21:00.16herlotristanbob_: ff3
21:00.25tristanbob_herlo, same here.... let me open my eyes and look
21:00.33Jayce^FF3
21:00.35herlotristanbob_: clear your cache :)
21:00.59herloJayce^: I wanna do a final four type of event on Saturday during lunch, you think this woudl be a good idea?
21:01.09herloer, right after lunch
21:01.18Jayce^safari too
21:01.21herloin place of REBOBs
21:01.24Jayce^sure
21:01.26herlosafari?
21:01.33Jayce^(browser)
21:01.38herlooh, k
21:01.57herloJayce^: what I was going to ask was what room you think we should put that in...
21:02.20herlopoints to the updated google doc he's been working on and wonders if that'd be okay for saturday
21:05.02tristanbob_herlo, control+f5 on firefox?
21:05.28Jayce^we dont' want to change rooms do we? all the comps will be setup already..
21:14.24herloJayce^: how so?
21:14.38herlotristanbob_: no, Tools -> clear private data
21:15.24tristanbob_herlo, been there, done that
21:16.03tristanbob_tensai, we just purchased infoblox appliances for WSU
21:16.05herlotristanbob_: dunno then...
21:16.06tristanbob_we like them alot
21:16.13tristanbob_infoblox.com
21:23.03tensaiziptie seems a bit different than what I thought it was. still cool though but not a men & mice replacement.
21:23.21tensaiwe're using rancid for our router backups
21:24.37findlayreally, I use igneous
21:25.38tensaican't tell if findlay is being serious or not
21:26.00findlaynot
21:26.38findlayis mocking the particular type of randomness used for OSS project names
21:27.08findlayherlo: I'm going to present on that.  In the lobby.  Somewhere
21:27.44tristanbob_tensai, it is much more than backups now
21:28.05tristanbob_now you can push changes to devices
21:28.42tensaiyeah that would be nice
21:29.04tristanbob_and the next version will track nodes and help standardize security items
21:29.07tristanbob_like ACLS
21:29.09tensaiI'm surprised how often I use my rancid backups now that I have them. I installed it a few months ago I think.
21:29.31tensaiit would be nice to be able to push a change to a bunch of routers at once
21:29.33tristanbob_tensai, with ziptie, you can restore a device simply by rick-clicking on the backup file you want to restore
21:29.49tristanbob_it sends the config to the IP address of the device
21:29.52tensaiand the bit about scheduling them for maintenance windows is awesome
21:30.12tristanbob_tensai, and ziptie discovers your networks, so it is very simple to install and maintain
21:30.27tristanbob_that is why I want to present on it.... COUGH (herlo)
21:30.43herlofindlay: uh, okay.  So you'll be the crazy guy that everyone ignores :)
21:30.59herlotristanbob_: can't do it man...
21:31.01findlayherlo: ok
21:31.03Jayce^herlo, as long as it's status quo :)
21:31.06herloalready has too many...
21:31.23herloJayce^: in reference to findlay?
21:31.29tensaitristanbob_: I might try to bribe you into a personal demo then
21:31.29Jayce^herlo, exactly
21:31.33herlolol
21:31.46Jayce^tensai, the 'hallway' class is always popular :)
21:31.47herlotristanbob_: you might consider suggesting that as a BoF though
21:31.47tristanbob_tensai, :)
21:32.09herlotensai: tristanbob_ that's what BoFs are essentially.  Organized 'hallway' courses
21:32.17tensaifindlay: rancid is an acronym
21:32.26tensaiReally Awesome New Cisco confIg Differ
21:32.29Jayce^mention a bof for it at any of the other sysadmin type classes, like the nagios one.
21:32.36findlaytensai: a contrived acronym
21:32.49tensaiwell maybe
21:33.12findlayI'm just enjoying being diverted by all the silly names
21:33.24herlok
21:34.38tensaitristanbob_: I won't be there on thursday so a later bof would be better for me
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22:05.30maquisBoFs?  not BoFHs?
22:05.45maquisis totally lost
22:07.58findlayheh
22:11.21findlaymaquis: this is just for you: http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/know.your.sysadmin.html
22:13.01tensaimaquis: birds of a feather
22:13.56tensaihttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birds_of_a_Feather_(computing)
22:23.53findlaythere is a disturbance in the networkkk
22:23.55findlays/kk//
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