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02:51.31herlojtaber: hello
02:52.49herlohello again jtaber
02:53.03Heartsbanessh
02:53.06herlono
02:53.14Heartsbanessh
02:53.31herloHeartsbane: I am ssh'd in
02:53.43Heartsbane~karma herlo--
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02:53.51herlolol
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02:54.29peno~karma beer
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02:54.32HeartsbaneYay I am saving the planet.... I am now KARMA nuetral
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02:55.08HeartsbaneD'oh
02:55.13HeartsbaneD'oh
02:55.16peno~noob Heartsbane
02:55.16infobotACTION knows that Heartsbane is quite the n00b! -> haha, n00b!
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02:55.30HeartsbaneOH snap
02:55.39Heartsbane~beer++
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02:56.13herlolol
02:57.02herloHeartsbane: I need help with stuff and things
02:57.43herlodecides that we forgot to include La Quinta and Pavilion Inn in our list of hotels and peno gave me a long list of other hot-spots for restaurants *he* thinks are important.
02:57.54HeartsbaneI am free on wednesday
02:58.14herlothat's too late
02:58.37penoyou are too late
02:58.43herlowork with me here people
02:59.14Heartsbaneyou know I am getting kinda punchie .. I usually crash in about a hour
02:59.37HeartsbaneI need to be to work in 8 hours
03:00.30penoexcuses
03:00.37herloHeartsbane: an hour is plenty of time
03:01.00Heartsbaneundertakingyou, peno and I were going to try and get together tomorrow...... K then stop being vague
03:01.14Heartsbaneand say it because I don't read minds
03:02.26herloyou don't?
03:02.36Heartsbaneg night
03:03.03herlowonders about... wait a sec, undertakingyou was here?
03:03.33herloHeartsbane: uh ^^
03:04.24sontek~beer++
03:04.25herlohttp://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/ken_robinson_says_schools_kill_creativity.html
03:05.09herlojtaber: check out that link....
03:05.22herlosontek: did you get my email?
03:05.31sontekyeah just got it
03:05.41herlok, cool
03:05.42sontekalmost killed myself today so been recovering :P
03:06.23herlohow so?
03:06.43sontektried chasing down a kids floaty at bear lake today
03:06.54sontekmade it half way across the lake before I realized it was faster than me =)
03:07.10sontekwasn't in good enough condition to make it back :P
03:07.27Tenenice
03:07.45sontekluckily after floating on my back for awhile a jet skiier picked me up =)
03:08.22TeneBetter than being hit by a jet skiier while floating on your back.
03:08.34sonteklol, thats what I thought was going to happen when I heard him coming
03:08.57sontekbut bear lake is amazing
03:09.00sontekso clean
03:10.43herloloves Bear Lake
03:11.26sontekThe best lake I've found out here
03:11.39sontekStrawberry, PineView, and Jordanelle have nothing on it
03:12.01herlosontek: did you know that Bear Lake is mostly in Idaho
03:12.07herlo?
03:12.18sontekyeah, but I hung out on the Utah side
03:12.20sontekscrew Idaho!
03:12.22sontek;)
03:12.42herlojtaber: http://live.gnome.org/DevilsPie
03:13.13sontekbut we definitely need to get a group together for some jet skiing
03:13.19sontekat bear lake
03:14.38herlosontek: maybe we should do that for UTOSC on Sunday for those who stay...
03:15.29herlowho would go for that...
03:16.18sonteki'll be there
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04:55.06tristanbobherlo, I'm getting excited for UTOSC!  we just received our trade-show kit from Vyatta
04:55.19tristanbobso I have 200 cds to handout ;)
04:55.29herlotristanbob: w00t!
04:55.41tristanbobI'm going to order some branded pens for fun
04:55.44herlotristanbob: we almost have enough people for you to give those out to now...
04:55.51tristanbobherlo, heh
04:56.00herlo81 registered, plus another 100 from SLCC
04:56.04tristanbobI need to promote this puppy!  hmmmm.... what can I do
04:56.11herloI anticipate more ppl coming
04:56.40herloin the next two to three weeks.  People *always* wait until the last minute
04:57.05tristanbobherlo, any ideas?  perhaps I can get an announcement at WSU bulletin
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06:14.20findlaypung
06:28.55herlotristanbob: sorry, got disconnected
06:30.47fozzmooherlo: You and everyone else.
06:31.03herlofozzmoo: oh, so there was a split?
06:31.09fozzmooWoudl seem so.
06:31.18herlohrmm, no news from freenode
06:32.03TeneI got disconnected from all of my IRC connections at the same time.
06:32.21herlooops
06:32.26Tenefreenode, perl, another one
06:32.28herlopoor Tene
06:32.33Tenesame time as fozz
06:32.45herlowell, those things do happen
06:38.21fozzmooProbably some Level3 genius that thought, "hmmm... 6667. I wonder what would happen if I caused all those connections to close?"
06:38.37herlofozzmoo: saw the email, Thursday night will probably be meeting time
06:38.48herlofozzmoo: yeah, L3 is a big PITA
06:57.00herlofozzmoo: so I'm thinking on July 31 (also meeting day), we need to have a blog post inviting people to register and remind them that the discount codes are only good until the 7th of August...
06:57.23fozzmooblinks
06:57.25fozzmoookay.
06:57.25herlodecriptor: we need to send an email to all of hte sponsors and ask them to share registration information with their clients...
06:57.32herlooops
06:57.44herlofozzmoo: I mean that Early Bird is only good until Aug 7
06:57.56fozzmoogot it.
06:58.32herlowe should blog it probably on the 31st and again on Aug 5, and Aug 7th (morning) reminding ppl
07:02.19herlofozzmoo: ^^
07:03.00fozzmoo"If I've told you once, I've told you a million times, put those muddy shoes outside... and register for UTOSC before it's too late!"
07:03.46fozzmoo"I don't want to have to tell your father you waited until it was $100."
07:06.34fozzmooHarry Potterのあなたの本はエムピー・スリーフォーマットで今利用できる。
07:07.11fozzmooI'm just sayin.
07:10.28herlofozzmoo: lol, perfect!
07:13.44herlohttp://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/nellie_mckay_sings_clonie_1.html
07:17.44herlohttp://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/nellie_mckay_sings_feminists_and_if_i_had_you.html <-- this one is funnier :)
07:40.22herloheads to bed, its nearly 3am here
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15:22.14herlomorning
15:28.58tristanbob_I use OpenDNS for my family filtering
15:29.05tristanbob_free, simple, and customizable
15:33.02opapomy screen resolution is stuck at 640 x 480
15:33.21opapoIt was fine yesterday and now this is the resolution
15:33.31fozzmooopapo: <Nelson>Hah hah</Nelson>
15:33.36opapo??
15:33.51opapoWho's Nelson and why is he laughing
15:34.56fozzmoohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson_Muntz
15:35.26opapofozzmoo: thanks
15:35.47opaposo does fozzmoo or Nelson have a solution?
15:35.53opapoI am using Ubuntu Hardy
15:36.02fozzmooopapo: Sorry- Just making light of it.
15:36.05opapook
15:36.08opapo:)
15:36.21fozzmooWhat hardware are we talking about?
15:36.27opapoati
15:36.39fozzmooWhat distribution?
15:36.48fozzmooAre you running the fglrx drivers?
15:36.51Yorokobiedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and correct the screen resolution section ... ?
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15:38.02opapoYorokobi: I could do that
15:38.18opapoI am apparently using fglrx drivers
15:38.34YorokobiTry "ati" and see what happens, too
15:39.26opapoWhat do you mean "Try 'ati'"
15:39.49opapoThis is one area where I am new
15:39.58opapoone of the many areas
15:40.23Yorokobiin /etc/X11/xorg.conf instead of "fglrx" use "ati" as the driver
15:40.36opapook
15:41.09opaposo :s/fglrx/ati/
15:41.17opapoand cross my fingers?
15:41.31Yorokobiyou might need :%s/fglrx/ati/c
15:41.43Yorokobiif in vi/vim
15:42.00opapodid that. now to restart right?
15:42.04Yorokobiyep
15:43.04Yorokobiopapo, it may be worth posting your xorg.conf to one of the pastebin servers so we can examine it
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16:03.25opapoYorokobi: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.1 /etc/X11/xorg.conf worked
16:03.36opapoThanks for helping me out
16:05.19Yorokobiopapo, yw
16:05.21Yorokobi<PROTECTED>
16:08.02opapoYorokobi: You pointed out the file
16:08.26opapothen I saw there were backups of it and I figured I could revert back to an older version
16:11.19YorokobiThere's no school like the old school
16:12.58herloOld School is a great movie
16:13.08herloWe're going streaking!!!
16:16.06opapoherlo:MY EYES!!!!
16:16.20opapowhere's the delete button for memories?
16:18.53herlolol
16:20.40opapoacct will log processes that have terminated.
16:20.46herlok
16:21.17opapois ther a program that will log every process that has started
16:21.23opapoand when it stopped?
16:22.25herlopsacct seems the closest, I guess I don't know why you'd want that per se.
16:23.15herlohttp://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-log-user-activity-using-process-accounting.html
16:23.30herlothough not trustworthy (the link) it seems pretty straightforward
16:23.49herlobut I think that's the command you are already referring
16:25.15opapoin fedora the package is psacct in Ubuntu it is acct
16:25.54opapoI read somehwere if there was a crash the processes that were running won't be recorded by acct
16:27.29opapoif there is a process that crashes will it be logged?
16:33.41opapoI think acct will do
16:53.34tensaipsacct works pretty well. just be prepared for the volume of output. there are a lot more processes run than you might think.
16:54.22tensaithink of the unix model with commands hooked together with pipes and you'll realize why
17:08.03opapotensai: I am prepared for the increased volume, but I am looking for something that will log the full command with parameters
17:08.07opapothat would be ideal
17:08.35opapoherlo's link above has comments with the same search
17:10.16tensaiI wrote a kernel module which would do that. it's really old (probably a 2.2 module) and would have to be updated.
17:11.13tensaiI wonder where I would have kept that...
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18:47.37tristanbob_herlo, just sent an email to 30 of my email contacts about UTOSC
19:11.53redbeard2herlo: ping
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19:24.22herloredbeard2: pong
19:25.37redbeard2herlo: in my presentation description for utos i said that it would be 90 minutes, and that's what's currently on the site. but shaun is telling me it's gonna be 45 to 60 minutes.
19:25.41redbeard2what should i plan on?
19:26.09fozzmooWho do you believe, redbeard2?
19:26.15fozzmooThe UTOSC site... or Shaun?
19:26.24redbeard2fozzmoo: i believe in the fonz.
19:26.32redbeard2but he's not here
19:26.51herloredbeard2: show me where it says 90 minutes?
19:27.17redbeard2http://2008.utosc.com/presentation/96/
19:27.20herloredbeard2: are you referring to your presentation notes...
19:27.48herloredbeard2: you will need to make that be 60 minutes.  I apologize if we didn't make that clear, but 60 minute slots is all we really have
19:27.58redbeard260 minutes it is.
19:28.13fozzmooredbeard2: BOF the rest!
19:28.18herlofozzmoo: don't jump the shark
19:28.27herloredbeard2: what time is your presentation?
19:28.32fozzmoojumps two sharks
19:28.54redbeard2herlo: aug 29, 4pm
19:29.30herlowould you prefer it be at 5:30pm ?
19:29.38herloit can overflow into a BoF time a little
19:30.02redbeard2herlo: 60 minutes is fine, seriously.
19:31.13fozzmooI'm a little bummed I'm scheduled to present at the same time as Glenda.
19:31.21redbeard2if you want i can do a perl bof, though i've never actually attended a bof and don't really know how they work
19:31.38fozzmoome neither.
19:31.54redbeard2whoa. there's a few good things the same time as fozz.
19:32.04fozzmooI've had lots of opportunities, but, as I was just telling Jayce, while I'm very much the networking type... I don't network very well.
19:32.42fozzmooSo... at a conference, I tend to slip back to my room instead of hanging around lookin for BOFs.
19:33.32redbeard2are we going to be taping some of these, like we did last year? i would love to go back and watch cool things that overlapped with other cool things
19:33.36fozzmooYes.
19:33.53fozzmooBut we're only going to be able to video one.
19:33.53fozzmoobecause we're doing a semi-pro job of it.
19:33.58fozzmooand doing multi-angles and stuff.
19:34.13fozzmooNobody needs to tape me. :)
19:34.20fozzmooI was hoping to tape Glenda's.
19:34.28fozzmooBut I also hoped to get the LinuxMCE
19:34.38fozzmooPhoooey.
19:34.40redbeard2yeah, me too
19:36.34redbeard2oh man. i'm looking over the schedule again, and there's a lot of really great topics this year.
19:36.46herloredbeard2: okay
19:37.27redbeard2i'm gonna have a hard time choosing during most of the time slots
19:37.50redbeard2most time slots seem to have at least 2 topics that look interesting
19:39.02herlowill be recording them all with audio
19:39.49herlowill have Room Managers and still needs volunteers...
19:40.17fozzmooWe should talk to the speakers about being room managers when they're not presenting.
19:41.45herlofozzmoo: that'd work.  Ask redbeard2
19:41.54fozzmooHey redbeard2!
19:42.00redbeard2what does it mean to be a room manager?
19:42.15herloredbeard2: http://wiki.utos.org/UTOSC2008/VolunteerPositions
19:42.18herloits on there
19:42.29redbeard2looking...
19:42.30fozzmooredbeard2: It's a very prestigious position.
19:43.12redbeard2i think i can handle that.
19:43.47herloyeah, we figured...
19:44.00herlofozzmoo: we need help with other stuff more.  Room Managers are pretty much handled
19:44.23fozzmooherlo: Tell redbeard!
19:44.25fozzmoo;-)
19:44.34redbeard2i don't like the direction this is all going in
19:45.13herloredbeard2: hey, how's things?
19:45.47redbeard2herlo: my presentation is pretty much ready. i just need to get bryan and/or dax to approve it, and maybe do a cover page for it
19:46.11herloredbeard2: k, cool.  Btw, I'll be uploading the slide features to the website this week.
19:46.42memilyraeherlo: ping
19:47.40herlomemilyrae: pong
19:47.57fozzmoowaves
19:48.21memilyraeherlo: how many colors did you want the shirts? I have 3 colors right now (black, blue and light blue)
19:48.28memilyraefozzmoo: hey
19:48.55fozzmooBlack, black black, and blacker than black.
19:49.13fozzmooAnd undertakingyou black.
19:50.28memilyraefozzmoo: I like the undertakingyou black. that's a great color
19:50.46fozzmooIt's a really dark, dark black. :)
19:50.53fozzmooAlmost... morbid black.
19:51.35herlomemilyrae: that's good, we need to consider some grey shirts...
19:51.39herlothe three colors are good
19:52.25memilyraeherlo: are you sure? I know that'll cost more money
19:52.40fozzmoomemilyrae: Did you hook up with Janese? Find some other way?
19:53.11herlomemilyrae: how much more?
19:53.13herlohttp://www.epromos.com/product/8829062.html
19:53.37herlofozzmoo: we're not talking about polos
19:53.41memilyraefozzmoo: yeah. she and I are talking. I wanted to get the logos done and show clint before I sent her the stuff
19:53.45herlodid we decide to go a different direction that I don't know about ?
19:53.51fozzmooherlo: I know. I'm just being ADD.
19:53.54memilyraeherlo: no, you're right
19:53.58herloemailed Jordy this morning :)
19:54.02herlowhew!
19:54.24herlomemilyrae: how much more money will it cost for gray?
19:54.35memilyraeherlo: gray shirts?
19:54.37herloalways spells grey the british way...
19:54.41herlomemilyrae: yes
19:55.13memilyraeherlo: I have no idea. I just thought it cost more money with the more colors we had
19:55.37herloprobably not, its just a type of shirt
19:55.47memilyraeherlo: oh, okay
19:56.00herloit coudl be a dime or something, but I can live with that
19:56.14memilyraeherlo: I've got the front of the shirt together but I want you to tell me what to change. Let me email it
19:56.39opapoI need help again with my vpn connection
19:56.51opapoAfter connecting I can't get anywhere.
19:56.57opapohttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/31842/
19:57.03opapois the route -n info
19:57.05herlomemilyrae: do we plan on doing something to the back?  An email wiould be great, but will you upload the proof first and just link it?
19:57.38memilyraeherlo: upload where? I can't remember and don't think I saved the link
19:57.41herloopapo: route add default gw ip.ad.re.ss
19:57.47herlomemilyrae: do you have winscp?
19:57.52memilyraeoh yeah
19:57.53herloif so, it should have saved it
19:57.55memilyraeI forgot
19:59.53memilyraeherlo: k. I'm connected
20:00.00memilyraeherlo: I'll upload it in a se
20:00.01memilyraec
20:00.27herlok, nw, send me an email with the link.  I'm currently getting ready to start my last lecture of the day
20:00.32herlomemilyrae: ^^
20:00.46memilyraeherlo: oh, and you mentioned you wanted something on the back, but if I remember right you said the 'radioactive' pieces lightly on the back but I don't recall what else
20:02.09herlomemilyrae: hang on, have an email of it for you...
20:02.35memilyraeherlo: k. thanks
20:03.06herlomemilyrae: sent
20:04.18opapoherlo: that worked.
20:04.24opapoI hate stupid errors
20:04.51opapoThey are like leaches (sp?) to me
20:05.19herloopapo: that happens occasionally to me, I hate when that happens.  Usually its something to do with NetworkManager screwing up
20:06.19opaposo how do I get it to create the default gw automagically
20:06.54herloopapo: dunno how its done on ubuntu, ask Christer, he should know.  In Fedora its in /etc/sysconfig/network
20:07.03herloGATEWAY=ip.ad.re.ss
20:07.05fozzmooGATEWAY=99.99.99.99
20:07.22opapoThat should give me a start
20:07.27herlofozzmoo: the file is a different location
20:07.50fozzmooherlo: You're telling me?
20:07.58herlolol
20:12.40opaponetwork manager is controlling what interface gets what properties
20:47.08memilyraeherlo: when you get a chance, take a look at the possible tshirt designs. I sent you the link
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20:52.30herlok, looking now
20:54.01herlomemilyrae: two things
20:54.14herloand I really like them btw...
20:56.00herloone is, I'd like utosc.com and utos.org in a better font
20:56.12herloand two, can you switch them, front to back?
20:57.26herlomemilyrae: I guess I have a couple more thoughts.  One is, lets remove the radioactive logo underneath and put it on the back.  That can replace the one that your not sure whether its a svg or not...
20:57.56herloand can the HowTo be HOWTO instead?  I'd like to be consistent with the advertising we've been doing...
20:59.34fozzmooH0w2o
20:59.41herlolol, NO!
21:05.45memilyraeherlo: k. working on it now
21:08.11herlok, cool...
21:08.21herlomemilyrae: sent you a couple more emails
21:11.39memilyraeherlo: k. I've used 2 of the 3 fonts from the ads. Let me put them up and see what you think. one sec
21:12.06undertakingyouherlo: can you remind me where SVG logos for utos/utosc?
21:16.06memilyraeundertakingyou: did you get the link yet?
21:16.19undertakingyoumemilyrae: no, do you have it?
21:16.28memilyraeyeah. one sec
21:16.38undertakingyouthat would be nice, you are prettier than herlo too so double bonus@
21:16.39undertakingyou!
21:17.15memilyraeundertakingyou: why thank you! :) I just sent it to your gmail
21:17.47memilyraeherlo: the (now) front looks too plain to me with just the radioactives
22:23.46herlolooks
22:24.28herlomemilyrae: wrong ones...
22:24.44herlotake away the radioactives and add back the gears
22:34.26memilyraeherlo: I guess I thought you wanted it that way since you FIRST switched which one was front and which one was back :)
22:35.15memilyraeherlo: SO...you want the HOWTO side to have just the radioactives in the background and the UTOSC 2008 to have the gears?
22:35.26memilyraeherlo: I want to check before I do anything
22:36.15herlok, let me re-look
22:36.40herlomemilyrae: k, so here's what I want to do.  define some terms
22:37.16Teneherlo = penguin
22:37.24Tenelike that?
22:37.50herlogears and radioactive are two different things
22:37.59herlogears have the radioactive logos inside however.
22:38.03herlomemilyrae: does that make sense?
22:38.24herloIf so, I want the gears on the front and the howto as well
22:38.30memilyraeherlo: yeah..."gears" include the radioactive in them; radioactive are just that
22:38.36memilyraeradioactive
22:38.41herloaccording to http://dl.utosc.com/08/tshirts/tshirt_front3.pdf <-- that's th eback then...??
22:39.04herlopoints to the idea that the filename says its the front...
22:39.14herlosorry :(
22:39.17memilyraeherlo: so, you wanted to SWITCH them, but now it seems we're all confused. Let's call one HOWTO and the other UTOSC
22:39.29memilyraework?
22:39.54memilyraeherlo: then when you talk with Jordy, you can tell him which one you want on front, which one on back
22:39.57memilyraedoes that work?
22:40.18herlok
22:40.47herlomemilyrae: so I think the biggest problem I had was that you named the file incorrectly and I didn't relate that...
22:41.14herloif the file above is the back, I'm good with the back (except the fonts)
22:41.18memilyraeherlo: except the first thing you wanted changed was what was front, what was back. So I did that first. Then I went to the next thing you wanted
22:42.10memilyraeherlo: I used 2 of the 3 fronts from the ad. Which would you like changed?
22:42.38herlomemilyrae: front3 should be back3 and vice versa
22:43.28herlobesides that the utah open source conference and utosc 2008 are wrong according to the advertisement fonts I sent to you..
22:43.49memilyraeherlo: I have officially changed front to back and back to front (but not yet uploaded them that way)
22:44.55herlothe font is covington
22:45.07herlomemilyrae: okay, that works...
22:45.21herlohas to run to a short meeting, but will be back in 15 minutes...
22:45.26memilyraeherlo: I'm changing those to convington as we...type
22:46.01herlok brb
22:54.42memilyraeherlo: when you get back, let me know what you want Utah Open Source on the back be (font-wise)
23:29.10findlaysomething resembling cromagnon hieroglyphs
23:29.30fozzmooDo everything in Impact font.
23:29.36fozzmooYES!
23:31.10findlayhaha
23:38.05herlomemilyrae: the same as the links I sent you...
23:38.08herlomatch them up
23:38.55herlomemilyrae: on http://dl.utosc.com/08/tshirts/tshirt_front.pdf, the utos.org font, should be the same as the 'Utah Open Source Conference' font...
23:39.10herlosame with August 28-30 2008 stuff
23:39.20herlocolor can stay if you like, but font must change to match...
23:42.23memilyraeherlo: actually, I did match them up (oh, except did you change it before Steve sent them off?) and it was Berylium, not Covington
23:42.55herlok, but have a look at that link..  I swore it was covington...
23:42.59herlolooks again
23:44.06herlomemilyrae: okay, you are right...
23:45.14herlomemilyrae: I'm gonna think about the back side for a little bit.  I'm heading home and I'll ping you when I get back...
23:47.22fozzmooherlo: Don't swear.
23:48.22fozzmooThere are children... somewhere.
23:48.36fozzmoocurses YouTube for being slow.
23:49.48memilyraeherlo: k. let me know. I can do it in Covington, but if you want it like the add then I'll leave it as Berylium. Just let me know
23:52.15fozzmoocurses YouTube for being slow.
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