IRC log for #utos on 20080623

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04:00.23undertakingyouherlo: hi
04:40.49herloundertakingyou: hola
04:40.53herlomemilyrae: pong
04:41.16herloguesses why memilyrae sent him a ping was the same as the sms msg he received earlier
04:42.00undertakingyouherlo: just wanted to say hi.
04:42.15undertakingyouwrote my first howto on the ubuntu wiki yesterday.
04:45.49herloyay!
04:46.13herloundertakingyou: nice to see you again.  I just got back from FUDCon today, then I flew ot LA this evening.
04:46.29herloHad dinner with my son, and now I am really just trying to figure out why I am still up
04:47.20sontekI'm on my 9th bug report for openSUSE 11.0 :P   I'm being pretty nitpicky though
04:47.34sonteksome are really annoying though
04:48.10herlois still in the process of downloading 11.0 CD
04:49.18sontekIts definitely better than 10.3, but I don't think its still not as polished as is it needs to be
04:49.32herloprobably agrees
04:49.40sontekI'm excited for 11.1, I think it'll be the release that gets openSUSE back in the spotlight
04:49.48sontekbut everyone is raving over 11.0 already
04:50.10sonteklinuxmag, linuxjournal, and ars technica all said it gives Ubuntu a run for its money
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04:54.17herlok
04:54.47herlobut we all know who's the best, in our own minds, and that's what makes Linux something special
04:55.02sontekWell, for me i'm hardest on the distro i'm using
04:55.18sontekso while everyone else is raving about it, i'm posting 10 bug reports in less than an hour
04:55.38RazberrieTartagrees w/ herlo
04:56.37herloRazberrieTart: well, thank you RazberrieTart.  Its something I've noticed about some communities lately, that they like to bicker over details, when Linux generally sucks less than its competitors at being a good stable OS
04:57.08RazberrieTartherlo: Exactly. That's nie great thing w/ Linux is the choice. What works for me, and what I like may not be right for someone else.
04:57.18RazberrieTartAnd if enough pople like the same things/features, you get a new O/S out of it.
04:57.25herlowishes more people would see that these days...
04:57.40sontekherlo: I think everyone sees that, thats why we have so many distros
04:57.52sontekherlo: if everyone thought everyone liked the same things, we wouldn't have choice
04:58.17herlosontek: no, they don't see that
04:58.32herlosontek: what they like to do is point out the flaws in others' OSes and bicker
04:59.03herloI agree that they do see choice as being a good thing, but can't we all just get along :)
04:59.12RazberrieTartWell it depends on where you are.
04:59.25herloUtah
04:59.33RazberrieTartSome don't care 'what' you run, some will fight to th death to defend their chosen path ...
04:59.49RazberrieTartUsually, though, I've noticed in the communitiesI hang out in, fairly good tolerance.
05:00.03sontekI think it depends on how people started with Linux too
05:00.11RazberrieTartgot dropped in
05:00.25sontekZelut is zealot about Ubuntu, but using Ubuntu changed his life, his career, etc
05:00.27herloright, and I guess I just don't get it.  I'm happy to share opinions about stuff, but sometimes I find ppl getting irate and upset over tiny details and waste too much time
05:00.53herloand then there's sontek, he just likes to egg others on :)
05:01.10sontekherlo: at least I don't mean it!
05:01.11RazberrieTarthehe
05:01.16herlosontek: lol
05:01.20RazberrieTart... and doesn't use real eggs
05:01.23RazberrieTart... I hope.
05:01.37sontekRazberrieTart: I won't confirm or deny that those were my eggs...
05:01.46sontekpleads the 5th
05:01.57RazberrieTartsontek: They made nice scrambled egg omelets.
05:02.55herlo:)
05:03.17herloFedora has changed my life for sure!
05:03.30sontekRazberrieTart: ok, they were my eggs... now you owe me an omelette
05:03.48sontekherlo: I think thats where people get their passion though
05:04.05sontekherlo: there are some people that use linux to be different or because its the geeky thing to do
05:04.06herlosontek: agreed, but bashing others seems to be the way many times, and that doesn't seem right to me
05:04.16sontekbut those whos life its actually touched, theres an extra bit of passion
05:04.24sontekherlo: its tough love!
05:04.28herlosure, and again, no bashing!!
05:04.40herlojust differences and discussion :)
05:04.43RazberrieTartI don't have good geek reasons for why I use linux, or why I love it.
05:04.46RazberrieTartI just do. it works.
05:04.53RazberrieTartand tux is a MUCH cuter mascot.
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05:04.57sontekherlo: "When the coach stops yelling at you, it means hes given up on you"
05:05.57sontekLinux got me to where I am today, it got me programming and without it I'd probably still be working at Mc.Donalds and playing video games all day
05:06.00herlosontek: I'm my own motivation in this world, no need for a coach.  I choose to join the team I'm on, I don't need someone hoping for me
05:06.46herlobut hey, I need to sleep, so I'll let this discussion become part of the logs now...
05:06.51RazberrieTartdoesn't have any lifechanging stories like that, not yet ayway
05:06.58RazberrieTartNight, herlo :)
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05:08.00herloyou will, gnight
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07:41.21sontekhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zs5HQqElIx4
07:41.26sontekbest cartoon ever
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13:48.49herlomorning #utos world!
13:53.58penomorning? it's almost noon!
13:56.25penough. hotel wifi.
13:59.39herlopeno: I have two words for you.  Hampton Inn :)
13:59.56herlopeno: I'm on the Left coast btw, LA
14:01.50penoherlo: I have two words for you. comcast sucks!
14:02.11penothe hotel has comcast. :(
14:03.31penoand it's 802.11b. :(
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14:14.30herlough, yuck and stupid!
15:10.40herlomemilyrae: ping
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15:23.11tyler_workyo
16:23.26memilyraeherlo: pong
17:38.28tristanbob_undertakingyou, link to your howto?
17:41.53tristanbob_sontek, thanks for the horrid cartoon
17:44.59sontektristanbob_: best cartoon ever! >:|
17:45.18tristanbob_those are kinda interesting - never seen them before
17:45.34tristanbob_and I.... will always love... noodles!
17:45.48sonteklol
17:49.19tristanbob_making me hungry...
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18:05.57herlomemilyrae: hi
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18:57.59herloso, fudcon was great!
18:58.15RazberrieTartAwesome.
18:59.19herloyeah, it was
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19:26.18undertakingyoutristanbob_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=836768
19:26.20undertakingyouthere is the links
19:26.30undertakingyouherlo: thanks for the onezy
19:26.33undertakingyouit is cool
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20:24.12herloundertakingyou: nw
20:36.52undertakingyounorth west?
20:39.06memilyraeundertakingyou: I think he means no worries
20:39.21memilyraeor at least that's what I think it means
20:39.32undertakingyoumemilyrae: I know.
20:39.47undertakingyouBut what fun would life be if we didn't give him a hard time?
20:44.52sontekhakuna mattata! It means no worries
20:44.56sontekfor the rest of our daaaayyyss
20:45.26undertakingyousontek: now dress in drag and do the hula.
20:45.43sontekIts our problem free philosophy!
20:46.09sontekundertakingyou: but I didn't shave my legs today!
20:46.38undertakingyouIt's ok.  I like it natural
20:48.52memilyraeundertakingyou: gotcha...I guess I'm a bit slow today...too tired.
20:49.00memilyraeundertakingyou: speaking of which, how's the baby!?!?!?!
20:49.20undertakingyoumemilyrae: baby is good.  I am surprised that we haven't seen you yet.
20:49.26undertakingyouYou know to see her and whatnot.
20:54.44memilyraeundertakingyou: I know!!! I want to come up sometime but I like to give families time to adjust with a new addition
20:55.14undertakingyouok, I get it ;)
20:56.21fozzmooundertakingyou: memilyrae's waiting until she's old enough to attend a Slumber Party. :-)
20:56.24memilyraeI SO want to though!!! I need my baby fix
20:56.34memilyraeha ha ha! not likely any time soon
20:59.00undertakingyoufozzmoo: as I father I will just have to stop that.
20:59.16undertakingyouno slumber parties with memilyrae.
21:02.49herloundertakingyou: you are crazy, memilyrae is a *good* influence.  What you don't want is slumber parties with fozzmoo
21:03.10undertakingyouherlo: I think we are going to have a no slumber party with UTOS board members
21:03.16undertakingyouthat should canvas things well.
21:05.14herlolol
21:05.32herlohad no intentions of suggesting such a thing as a UTOS slumber party
21:06.09sontekUTOS is just one big slumber party
21:09.09undertakingyouoh hack nights at least.
21:13.30whiteingegets his 'jammies ready
21:14.05memilyraeyou guys are too funny
21:14.10undertakingyouNo, herlo won't let you sleep though
21:14.29undertakingyouif you do he makes you pee your pants and puts girl lipstick on your face
21:14.40undertakingyouunless you into that sort of thing o.O
21:28.23RazberrieTartOhrly.
21:28.33RazberrieTartCan I bring my own lipstick ?
21:28.34RazberrieTart;)
21:31.23sontekI hear herlo has quite the collection
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21:39.47undertakingyouI understand that the reason herlo has a spare room is to hold his lipstick collection.
21:43.13sonteksomeone needs to blog about this. ;)
21:43.35undertakingyouwe'll make Heartsbane's job to do recon photo's.
21:44.03HeartsbaneFUCK THAT
21:44.15undertakingyou~language Heartsbane
21:44.15infobotACTION grabs Heartsbane by the ear and washes Heartsbane's mouth out with soap
21:44.25Heartsbanepffftttt
21:44.53undertakingyou:)
21:45.02RazberrieTartrofl
21:45.04undertakingyouHeartsbane: you still feeling sick?
21:45.13RazberrieTartburping bubbles imminent :D
21:45.46undertakingyouol
21:45.49undertakingyoulol
22:25.04herloyou guys are crazy
22:28.27RazberrieTart... wait
22:28.33RazberrieTartYou JUST noticed this, herlo ?
22:28.38RazberrieTart;)
22:31.25herloRazberrieTart: I teach for an hour or more at a time, so yeah
22:32.30RazberrieTartHeh :D
22:33.22herloundertakingyou: ping
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23:26.02undertakingyouherlo: pong
23:26.14undertakingyouyes, less than an hour reply!!!
23:52.47herloundertakingyou: hi

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