IRC log for #utos on 20080618

00:18.25linuxalienway to go moran!
00:18.27linuxalien;)
00:23.08DexterTheDragonwhere did mo ran?
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01:22.22herlocan someone check to see if utos.org is resolving for them and what server its resolving to?
01:24.04whiteingeresolves for me (Server: Apache/2.2.6 (Fedora)
01:25.16herlowhiteinge: what does 'dig utos.org' say?
01:25.22herloneeds the ip addr
01:26.46whiteinge166.70.208.20 sound right? i don't have dig installed atm
01:27.56herloyeah, that's the old addr
01:28.01herlothx
01:28.32herlowhiteinge: try host, have that installed?
01:28.45herloor (eck) nslookup
01:28.55DexterTheDragonherlo: I got the same as whiteinge
01:29.04herlotry blog.utos.org
01:29.25DexterTheDragonsame
01:29.39herlohrmm...
01:29.40herlok, x
01:29.41herlotx
01:32.43herlookay, I figured out my problem.  IPTABLES!!! :)
01:33.42DexterTheDragonthe solution and cause of all of lifes problems
01:34.08findlaytruly
01:34.23herloand yet, I love IPTABLES!!! :)
01:34.51herlopoints out that the word is screamed just like the leader in 300 when he says SPARTA!!!
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01:56.11penoDROPs herlo
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02:15.19RazberrieTartI have been checking the site out since i heard about it, but can't seem to find if there is info about any O/S having booths. or an expo type section of the weekend... so
02:15.20RazberrieTartIs there ?
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02:27.40RazberrieTartPlus, site's down ...
02:29.47penoRazberrieTart: herlo is working on the site, afaik.
02:31.13RazberrieTart'k :)
02:50.18herloRazberrieTart: O/S as in which one?
02:51.15RazberrieTartherlo: I run sidux, and was wondering if you have any plans for an expo/booth style section outside of the presentations
02:52.31herloRazberrieTart: we are planning on booths, we just don't have detail up on our site yet.  What is sidux?
02:53.04herloRazberrieTart: also, we only have room for about 15, but 6-8 of them will be non-profit/dotorg booths
02:53.04RazberrieTartherlo: sidux is a Debian distro based on sid.
02:53.08herlooh, okay
02:53.49RazberrieTartherlo: I don't know if I can get enough together in a few weeks from the sidux foundation (It's based in Germany) but I have already said that I'll be there, and if we can pull this off, would gladly host the booth if given information.
02:53.51herlowell, we have one (hopefully) for Ubuntu, Fedora, OpenSUSE.  I can't see any reason why having a debian booth would be bad.  I'll have to check into it and let you know...
02:54.15RazberrieTartherlo: That would be fantastic.
02:54.18herlodebian/sidux or something like that might work.
02:54.26herlohas to go for a bit, bbs
02:55.01RazberrieTart'k
02:56.22herloif you stick around, I'll be on all new servers in an hour or so :)
02:56.33RazberrieTartwill stick around, sure.
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03:23.05herlo-lap/t Utah Open Source - http://utos.org | Maintenance being performed currently, service is spotty
03:23.17sontekyour mom is spotty
03:23.41herlo-lapsontek: you're a dork
03:24.19RazberrieTart:D
03:25.50sontekwhats with the centos!? I have a perfectly good opensuse cd for ya!
03:26.45herlo-lapsontek: opensuse is weak
03:26.51herlo-lapdecriptor: ping
03:30.24herlo-lapits weird being on pidgin
03:30.34herlo-lapI've been on irssi for so long :)
03:30.48RazberrieTart<~~~ Konversation girl
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03:37.40herlo-lapI can see that
03:38.38RazberrieTart:D
03:39.21penoirssi FTW
03:39.53herlo-lapagreed
03:40.17herlo-lapI'm trying to get my server back, but Lamont and fozzmoo keep shutting me down!
03:40.18penoI can't stand gui irc clients.
03:40.42RazberrieTartthe gui. It mkes pretty.
03:40.43peno~thump lamont and fozzmo
03:40.43infobotACTION thumps lamont and fozzmo in the ear with a brick!
03:40.45RazberrieTartlikes the pretty.
03:41.23herlo-lappeno: why thank you
03:41.31penoherlo-lap: no problem. :D
03:42.42penoheh.  i'm actually impressed at how much faster gnome-rdp is compared to mstsc.
03:44.11herlo-lapduh, linux rox
03:44.18herlo-laprdp is waaaaaay betters
03:47.14penolinux rocks now that I have a wifi card that doesn't drop connection every 10 seconds.
03:48.01herlo-lapwell, you should have done that a long time ago :)
03:48.16penoyeah, well I chock it up to being lazy
03:50.46herlo-lapfair enough, but lazy only gets you so far.  Eventually, you have to get out of the chair and grab a new box of cookies!
03:51.10penonaw
03:51.20penothat's what the wife is for!
03:52.15penoit really was just being lazy. and cheap.
03:52.23findlaywifes are hard to come by these days
03:52.38penogood ones yes
03:52.53penobut you can mail order not so good ones from russia!
03:54.51herlo-lapthey might be good!
03:54.56herlo-lapchecks his order form...
03:55.07penolet's order one for hearts!
03:55.25herlo-laplol, I think that'd go over incredibly badly :-P
03:55.30penoprobably would
03:55.38penocuz there's no mute button
03:57.15RazberrieTarthehe
03:57.54penobanshee.. or rythmbox..
03:58.39herlo-lappeno: he likes rhythmbox lately
03:58.53herlo-lapwhich means we should go for a girl from singapore :)
03:58.58RazberrieTart:D
03:59.02penoherlo-lap: who is whe?
03:59.08penos/whe/he
03:59.16herlo-laphe == Heartsbane
03:59.19penoah
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04:58.54herlo-lapdecriptor: pong
04:59.00herlo-lapdecriptor: ping
04:59.02decriptorherlo-lap: you can't pong me
04:59.07sontek~pong decriptor
04:59.07infobotdecriptor: PONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
04:59.14herlo-laplol
04:59.15RazberrieTart:D  :D
04:59.16decriptorcheater
04:59.28herlo-lapdecriptor: any progress on that sponsor stuff?
04:59.32herlo-lapwaits impatiently
04:59.37decriptorthe second party can't be ponged by the first party
04:59.47decriptorjust got home :(
04:59.56herlo-lapdecriptor: trust me, you pinged me at some point where I didn't pong back, so it works out
05:00.05herlo-lapdecriptor: right, but you were supposed to have it done yesterday
05:00.07decriptor:/
05:00.15decriptorthere might be a grain of truth to it
05:00.22herlo-lapyesterday ==  a week ago
05:00.28herlo-lapa grain!
05:00.31herlo-lap?
05:00.41herlo-lapmore like a full bushel
05:01.02decriptorI don't know
05:01.05sontekYou catch more flies with honey!
05:01.23herlo-lapsontek: nope, not with decriptor.  If I don't piss and moan, he doesn't get'er done!
05:01.31decriptorsontek: you going to come down early on thursday to help me setup?
05:01.45herlo-lapdecriptor: any progress on that sponsor stuff?
05:01.52decriptornot yet
05:01.52herlo-laplol
05:01.55sontekdecriptor: planning on it, but really depends on whats going down at work
05:02.16sontekdecriptor: are you going to have an NFS/pxe server?
05:02.18herlo-lapdecriptor: will I see anything *tonight*?
05:02.39sontekherlo-lap: stop interrupting, we are discussing important matters
05:02.45RazberrieTart:D
05:02.51herlo-lap~thump sontek
05:02.52infobotACTION thumps sontek in the ear with a brick!
05:02.56decriptor~eight-ball
05:02.58sontek:D
05:03.02decriptor~8ball
05:03.03infobotACTION rolls the eight ball and gets: Yes - definitely
05:03.07herlo-lapcontinues to ask decriptor
05:03.15decriptor~8ball
05:03.16infobotACTION rolls the eight ball and gets: Reply hazy, try again
05:03.23herlo-lapcontinues to ask decriptor
05:03.27herlo-lapdecriptor: will I see anything *tonight*?
05:03.38decriptorreply hazy, try again :P
05:03.45herlo-lapdecriptor: will I see anything *tonight*?
05:03.51herlo-lap:D
05:04.26decriptornot extremely likely, but I'll probably be working on it
05:04.26RazberrieTartSneaky.
05:04.26sontekHey guys! Time for interviews!
05:04.26herlo-lapdecriptor: just remember, I'm not the one holding up our sponsors :(
05:04.27herlo-lapsontek: what interviews?
05:04.44sontekherlo-lap: You use Fedora... what makes it stand out for you? Why do you choose it over other distros?
05:04.59herlo-lapThe community
05:05.10sontekdecriptor: As an opensuse advocate, if someone asked you why you choose opensuse... what would you say?
05:05.12herlo-lapits the bestest community
05:06.00sontekworse interview ever!
05:06.11RazberrieTartooh ooh
05:06.15RazberrieTartdo me !
05:06.33herlo-lapsontek: decriptor doesn't have time for your *interviews*, he's busy ignoring my requests :/
05:06.46sontekherlo-lap: its about time he caught on
05:07.15decriptordid anyone's power just go out?
05:07.22herlo-lapsontek: I oughtta!
05:07.32RazberrieTartNope, not here.
05:07.32sontekRazberrieTart: As a debian/sidux user, do you feel over shadowed by the popularity of Ubuntu or do you think debian will make a come back?
05:07.39herlo-lapdecriptor: you are in HV, the rest of us have power
05:07.52herlo-laplol
05:07.58sontekRazberrieTart: and what makes you choose it over the other popular distros?
05:08.17decriptorHV?
05:08.18RazberrieTartsontek: Ubuntu is debian, sort of, and it fills a good niche, getting ewer users ot Linux, so in time, yes debian itself (stable, testing, sid) will make a comeback as it were with users hopefully growing enough to explore otherdistros.
05:09.05RazberrieTartsidux is the only distro that will tolerate me as it's official fangirl ;) ... but I like it, it's fast, it's current, the community support is good, and they're adorable.
05:12.21herlo-lapdecriptor: Happy Valley
05:12.31herlo-lapget down with the acronyms!
05:16.01sontekdecriptor: They call it happy valley because everyone has *real* internet!
05:18.11herlo-laplol, right!
05:34.48findlaywhatever.  gentoo ftw
05:43.55herlo-lap~lart findlay
05:43.56infobotshoots findlay in the head
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14:30.12herlo-laphelo?
14:32.28herlo-laprealizes he's been working with mail servers too much lately :(
14:35.06decriptorehelo
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14:37.27herlo-lap1lol
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14:43.32peno250 OK
14:46.22herlo-laphi
14:47.58penoone more day, then it's vacation
14:52.32herlo-lapooh!  one more day and I get to go to FUDCon!!!
14:55.29penopfft. fudcon. what an oxymoron.
14:55.57herlo-lappeno: its to get rid of the fud
14:56.15penoi know. :)
15:01.48herlo-lapand it stands for fedora users and developers conference :)
15:02.29penoi know. :)
15:02.52decriptorpeno: no its the fair uncertainty doubt conference :P
15:03.22penodecriptor: oh, as long as it's fair.  if it was fear, then that would be a problem.
15:03.40decriptorcrap
15:04.00decriptortrying to pay some attention to this channel, apparently not enough
15:04.57penoepic fail
15:05.32herlo-laplol
15:06.54herlo-lapI'm thinking about cms software, considering drupal, joomla, mambo, etc.  Any that I should seriously consider looking at?
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15:10.17penoI don't have a lot of screen time with any of them
15:13.39decriptorjoomla == mambo
15:13.54decriptoryou don't want mambo though
15:14.13decriptorjoomla is a fork of that (problems with the company that owns it)
15:47.42kai4785Does anybody know how to disable an ethernet device with a kernel argument? I'd like to disable an ethernet device during an Centos Kickstart install so it doesn't ask me which device I want to install from.
16:13.09herlo-lapdecriptor: k, tx.  Anyone else have any suggestions.  I'm heavily leaning toward drupal, but not sure yet
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16:15.08findlayherlo-lap: give up on django?
16:17.05herlo-lapfindlay: nope
16:17.16herlo-lapfindlay: this isn't for utosc, its for the new look and feel of utos.org
16:17.29herlo-lappoints to the blankness that is currently utos.org :(
16:27.08penoherlo-lap: it's not blank! it's just lacking UTOS content!
16:31.50herlo-laplol
16:31.57herlo-lappeno: good point...
16:35.59herlo-lapmemilyrae: ping
17:00.00tensaiherlo-lap: dl.utosc.com is NXDOMAIN. some of the images on 2008.utosc.com are broken.
17:01.21herlo-lapI know
17:01.43herlo-laptensai: we're in the middle of a migration, silly me.  Thought I could get it all done by last night.
17:01.51undertakingyouI know who herlo is, but the fact that his lap is now talking is scary
17:02.00herlo-laplol
17:02.10undertakingyouThat is some serious gastro-intestinal distress right there.
17:02.24herlo-lapundertakingyou: that was earlier this week
17:02.27herlo-lap:(
17:02.32undertakingyouSad fack.
17:02.38undertakingyous/fack/face/
17:02.56herlo-lapk
17:03.14herlo-lapundertakingyou: we have a new server up and running, with iptables too!
17:04.12herlo-lapthe biggest concern I have right now is accepting mail like we used to do, its mostly working now
17:06.14undertakingyouherlo-lap: good job man.  Now, has Lamont moved all the servers from xmission to Tier4 like he said?
17:06.41herlo-lapmostly, old utos hasn't moved yet, but I'm needing data from it today
17:07.18herlo-lapbut new utos.org is up and mail is working.
17:19.06undertakingyounice,
18:19.13herlo-lapundertakingyou: we have much more to work on...
18:28.00herlo-lapis checking out eZpublish demos at http://ez.no/ezpublish/demo
18:38.43RazberrieTartSo, any info yet on what I'd need to do to register a booth for utos ?
18:39.31undertakingyouRazberrieTart: yes there is.  decriptor is in charge of that and probably could help you best.
18:40.05RazberrieTartAh, great.
18:40.13RazberrieTartSo, decriptor ...
18:43.19findlayRazberrieTart: are you going to be the guy with bean bags that you let people have for a quarter and if they knock down all the bottles you give them a pink, synthetic, furry stuffed animal-like but not quite creature?
18:43.51RazberrieTartNo, I'll be the girl w/ the bean bags, findlay ;)
18:43.59undertakingyoulol
18:44.05findlayoh, that makes all the difference
18:44.09RazberrieTartNaturally.
18:52.29peno:p
19:05.26herlo-lapRazberrieTart: the site for that info is still down, I'm trying to get it up right now.  Depending on others is sometimes a bad thing :(
19:06.12RazberrieTartherlo-lap: Ah, ok, so I didn't completely fail at not finding it on the site this morning, good :D
19:06.28herlo-lapnope, the site is still in flux :(
19:07.34RazberrieTartSo wait 'til the site is back up, then there should be a place to register ? And info that booth people would need to know re. what to bring, dimensions, and all that ?
19:08.37RazberrieTarthas to carry tales to the sidux core that makes these kind of decisions and sends out stuff for booth goodies.
19:17.34herlo-lapanyone ever used http://lenya.apache.org/?
19:18.51herlo-lapRazberrieTart: well, the info about the booths is there, send an email to sshaw@utos.org for signing up, but let him know that you and I talked and we'll get 'er worked out
19:19.26RazberrieTartherlo-lap: Oh, I missed that part, then... so, the booth, it is a go ?
19:19.58herlo-lapRazberrieTart: we have to work out the details, but probably can do
19:20.19RazberrieTartHm, ok... I can throw together a hopefully intelligent sounding email :D
19:20.28herlo-laplol, decriptor is sshaw
19:20.41RazberrieTartooh ah :D
19:20.57herlo-lapnm, on apache lenya -- Java ick!
19:21.28findlayherlo-lap: you obviously have no appreciation for Enterprise
19:21.57herlo-lapfindlay: I understand the value of Java, but not for a content management system :)
19:24.06herlo-lapexponent fails!
19:24.12herlo-lapepically
19:37.31peno~fail
19:37.32infobotSorry, peno, you have failed.
19:37.37penoyay!
20:10.41herlo-laplol
20:11.20peno~fail herlo-lap
20:11.20infobotherlo-lap, you Fail!
20:12.30herlo-lapinfobot: don't encourage peno
20:13.24herlo-lapfindlay: are you suggesting there might be a couple good cms' in python/django?
20:13.53findlayherlo-lap: not that I know of
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20:14.24herlo-lapfindlay: so why did you ask me about giving up on python/django?
20:14.40findlayherlo-lap: just wondering why you were shopping for a CMS
20:15.06herlo-lapfindlay: utos.org needs one
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21:31.38herlo-lapHeartsbane: hi
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22:21.44tristanbob_herlo-lap, removed the sponsors?
22:22.03tristanbob_nm, I see the migration news above
22:24.33herlo-laptristanbob_: its related
22:24.51herlo-lapi'm going to be making a few phone calls tonight, should be back up very soon
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