IRC log for #utos on 20080423

01:51.54fozzmoois going to Liquid Joes at 9pm
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01:52.51fozzmoois going to Liquid Joes at 9pm
02:08.05herlohave fun
02:08.11fozzmooherlo: Yat?
02:08.26herlofozzmoo: Philly
02:08.47fozzmooAwh.
02:08.50fozzmooBut cool.
02:08.56fozzmooGrab me a cheesesteak.
02:09.14herlofozzmoo: k, can I eat it though?
02:09.28fozzmooNah. pack in your carry on. :)
02:09.44herloby the time I get back, it will not be that good
02:09.54fozzmooheh heh. Oh well.
02:10.16fozzmooOne of my friends went on a road trip with his family a couple years ago and encountered some Hardees restaurants.
02:10.27fozzmooThey used to ubiquitous in Utah, ya know...
02:10.29fozzmoobut not anymore.
02:10.46fozzmoohe and I used to practically live at one in Logan... eating their mushroom/swiss burgers.
02:10.48herlothey have a bunch of those in the souteheast
02:10.57fozzmooSo, he sees this one, and sees that they have the burger...
02:11.00herlos/eh/e/
02:11.01fozzmooSo, he gets it for me!
02:11.08herlohaha
02:11.10fozzmooPacks it in dry ice.
02:11.18fozzmooKeeps in the cooler int he van.
02:11.25fozzmooIt was kinda mushy, but it was yummy!
02:11.43herloI used to love their sunrise breakfast biscuit
02:11.51fozzmooyum.
02:11.58herloglad you liked it
02:12.10fozzmooI remember going out the morning after our wedding - 3am - got Hardees breakfast. :)
02:12.13herlo:)
02:12.15fozzmooWhat a way to spend the honeymoon!
02:12.21herlohaha
02:12.21herlonice
02:12.45herlowe have a meeting planned for tomoorw night.  Do you have your voips a working?
02:13.06herlomemilyrae: ping
02:13.30fozzmooSure. I should be able to make it.
02:13.30fozzmoobye
02:13.45herloyaya, gnight
02:14.08herlogoes to watch some TV, then beddyby
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02:45.05throckfozzmoo: Hardee's and Carls Jr are the same restaurant you know.
02:45.25throckIf you go to a Hardee's restaraunt, you see "Six Dollar Burger" on the menu.
02:59.51mheathThey used to be seperate, though. Maybe they were during the time he's reminiscing about
02:59.57mheathAnd they do have different product lineups.
03:00.02mheathVery similar, but different.
03:02.43throckmheath:  you can't come in and contradict me on this one - I've done extensive research  on this - they MUST be the same restaurant because the both have a six dollar burger!!!11one
03:03.02throckNo, I didn't look at anything else on the menu.  :-D
03:03.18mheathare you sure hardees does?
03:03.25mheathI used to eat a Hardees some when I was living in SC
03:03.52throckLast time I was in Iowa they did.  That was about 2 years ago.
03:03.53mheathI remember noting that though they were the same company, I never saw a 6 dollar burger there
03:04.07mheathI only noticed that because I remembered Carls Jr here advertising that constantly
03:04.16throckhuh.  Maybe my extensive research (errr.... my memory) is failing me.
03:04.37throckMaybe that was more an assumption that my brain just made true then.
03:04.43throckwill stop talking out of his arse now.
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03:34.44penohousework ftl
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04:42.29sonteksup
06:07.21Gateyo
06:22.24undertakingyouhello
07:21.02sontekundertakingyou: hows it going?
08:11.21sontek:>
08:48.41sontekherlo: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/webcomics/f9delay.png
11:43.28herlosontek: I know
11:43.43herlonicubunu is a legend in fedora circles
12:06.09*** topic/#utos by herlo -> Utah Open Source Conference - 2008.utosc.com | Fedora/Ubuntu Linux Party - May 3 / http://tinyurl.com/yoeqzc
12:06.33*** topic/#utos by herlo -> Utah Open Source Conference - 2008.utosc.com | Distro Release Party - May 3 / http://tinyurl.com/yoeqzc
12:24.01penoyay parties!
12:54.34herlohi peno
12:57.35penomorning
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15:18.34decriptorsontek: ping
15:19.33sontekdecriptor: howdy!
15:19.54decriptorwe should make sure we have plenty of opensuse 11 beta 2 for the release party :)
15:21.00sontekThey'll have the livecd installer working by then
15:21.10decriptorthat's what I'm hoping
15:21.49sontekThere are a few blocker bugs that I think need to be fixed before we push it onto the public
15:22.01sontekthey need to fix wpa for sure
15:23.06decriptoryeah there are going back and forth on bugzilla about that
15:24.07sontekYeah
15:24.23sontekand I have a bug with my intel card that has existed since 10.3 updated it
15:24.45decriptorlame
15:24.56sontekThey have it marked as blocker for 11
15:25.01sontekso it'll get fixed =)
15:25.05decriptorsometimes their importance ratings for bugs pisses me off
15:25.10decriptornice
15:25.29sontekYeah, just pisses me off that they wouldn't revert the update in 10.3
15:26.03sontekIt wasn't specifically their falt, xrandr updated and changed how it outputs video cards
15:26.21sontekbut once they found out about it, they should've reverted xrandr to an older version until they could fix it
15:26.44decriptoryeah
15:27.25sontekbut I can bring me nfs/pxe server to the party
15:27.44sontekand then we'll just burn livecds for anyone who doesn't have PXE/USB boot
15:28.29sontekI have 32 and 64 bit of 10.3 and 11 beta 1 on there, plus their livecds
15:28.38decriptornicfe
15:28.50decriptorI have tons of the live install 10.3 discs
15:29.04sontekI need to lookup what it takes to be a mirror
15:29.04decriptorat least 30 or so
15:29.08sonteknice
15:29.21decriptorwhy, for your home?
15:29.29sontekyeah
15:31.19sontekplus it took me all day to get the 64 bit and 32 bit isos for our last release party
15:31.31sontekif we are going to do one in June, I'd like to have the sooner ;P
15:31.47decriptoryeah I might be able to pull that off
15:31.49decriptoror even you
15:31.57decriptorjust talk to one of the guys at novell
15:32.02decriptorthey have an internal mirror
15:32.16decriptorthey have it a week before the public does
15:32.57sontekyeah, but thats only goldmaster, they still make bugfixes if they are really important
15:33.19sontekThere were fixes between GM to 10.3
15:33.31sontekbut I guess they'll work, people can just update afterwards
15:34.37decriptoryeah
15:34.42decriptoror even during the install
15:38.30undertakingyousontek, herlo: who is nicubunu?
15:39.37sontekundertakingyou: he makes comics
15:39.41Jayce^needs connection info for the meeting tonight
15:40.23decriptorI want to start planning the release party as soon as I'm done with this weke
15:42.21Jayce^speaking of making comics, I think we should try to get Howard Tayler to present on his comic..  Free Content :)
15:42.47sontekdecriptor: yeah, I want to make Junes more fun than last years
15:43.06decriptorsontek: and just as much spiffs
15:43.28decriptorwe had over $1000 in stuff that was given out
15:44.03sontekyeah
15:44.10sontekand they'll probably give us just as much this year
15:44.29sontekbut I want to do fun things, like have sys admin challenges like GL did at UTOSC
15:44.41decriptorcool
15:44.43sontekand be a little more organized, like spend the whole day up there getting the network ready
15:44.57decriptormaybe I can get in touch with ATT and have them come
15:45.05decriptorworks for me
15:45.13decriptorsince I won't have class this time
15:46.04sontekI was thinking about taking vacation around then anyways because I have to re-shingle my roof and lay sod and all that fun stuff
15:46.09sontekso I wont be doing anything important
15:46.29decriptorcool
15:54.19mheath_rmtMorning all.
15:54.48decriptorsontek: looks like the live installer yast bug is fixed
15:59.40sontekdecriptor: did they release ni isos?
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15:59.43sonteknew*
16:00.08decriptorI doubt it
16:00.22decriptorsince beta2 is out in a week and a half
16:03.25sontekyeah
16:03.34sontekbut if its fixed, that'll be good for the release party
16:26.43decriptoryeah it will
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17:15.13herloundertakingyou: hi
17:15.44herlosontek: he also does tutorials about inkscape
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17:51.29herlothis makes me sad :( --> http://tinyurl.com/56ry36
17:59.46penohooray for XP!
17:59.48penoducks
18:06.32herlo~lart peno
18:06.32infobotdumps 42 tons of dirt, manure, and fish heads on peno
18:06.37herloyou can't duck that bitch!
18:15.00penoprobably not.
18:20.04herlo:)
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19:17.50sontekif they switch to Xp all the 3rd world kiddies can play video games!!
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19:25.35penosontek: brilliant idea!
19:41.40decriptorI love the rational that was given for not using open source
19:41.58sontekbecause open source doesn't have good video games?!
19:42.05decriptorand then this comment just takes the cake
19:42.11decriptor1) Open source apps can still be developed and run, as many already do, on top of XP. Open Source Community just lose the OS
19:42.14decriptor2) I assume Sugar will be ported too, so children won't lose anything
19:42.17decriptor3) When computers are taken home, parents can use Windows and MS Apps - beter suited for employability skills - a gain for poor people overall
19:42.20decriptor4) Only doubt is SW pricing - how much would MSFT charge for the OS and Apps? If at the recently announced $3 level for Windows/Office, it won't be a big deal vis a vis potential benefits.
19:42.24decriptorNet, net, thinking about OLPC broad mission, it is a good move.
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20:52.30herloI totally disagree with the move, but those arguments do hold water to some degree
20:53.06herlothe problem with those arguments is that 3rd world countries don't have a lot of computing already in place, the infrastructure isn't guaranteed and putting open source in there is better
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21:40.39Heartsbanejsmith: ping
21:40.52jsmithHeartsbane: pong
21:44.22HeartsbanePM
22:03.35undertakingyouherlo: ping
22:04.01herloundertakingyou: pong
22:04.57undertakingyouI um . . . don't know if I can make the telemeeting
22:04.59undertakingyouducks
22:05.44herlo~lart undertakingyou
22:05.44infobottakes out undertakingyou with the trash
22:05.52herlowonders if anyone cares about UTOSC!
22:05.58undertakingyou????
22:06.07herlonobody can make meetings these days :)
22:06.18undertakingyouMy sister got married today.  I am a grooms man at the reception, which starts at 7:00
22:06.22undertakingyouSorry dude.
22:06.32herloundertakingyou: nerd
22:06.36herloits oaky
22:08.08undertakingyouWell, I'm sorry to disappoint.  I just thought you should know.
22:11.53herloundertakingyou: I appreciate the warning
22:12.04herloI'm sure not everyone else will be as kind :(
22:12.41whiteingeSo what's the meeting about?
22:13.10herlowhiteinge: we meet about conference planning stuff
22:13.38herlowhiteinge: just pm'd you a good linke
22:14.17whiteingeSo you did. Unfortunately I'm at work and they have a policy against "good" links...
22:14.25whiteingeOh, wait. Not that kind of link...
22:14.43herlohaha
22:15.02Jayce^herlo, my daughters first birthday celebration is tonight too ...
22:15.05herlowhiteinge: if you want to set up a voip connection tonight, you can get online
22:15.11Jayce^but I do still need the sip info
22:15.14herloJayce^: see how your are!
22:15.19herloJayce^: its in the irc logs
22:15.23herlo~logs
22:15.24infobothmm... logs is apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz
22:15.36Jayce^herlo: I've been planning on crashing it for a year now :-p
22:15.47herloheads out to dinner, but I'll give you that info later
22:15.51herloJayce^: crashing what?
22:16.03Jayce^this meeting..  had a kid last year just to thwart this
22:16.16herlohaha, funny
22:16.23herloheads off
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22:27.24sontek:O
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22:31.19HeartsbaneJayce^: I am making a wiki I got with jsmith this afternoon
22:31.28HeartsbaneI think you will enjoy it
22:32.00sontekjsmith is my hero, hes so good at munchkins
22:32.08sontekI wish I had his skillz
22:33.00HeartsbaneJayce^: The last part on the wiki is something I will partition for http://collective.utos.org/voip
22:33.40Heartsbanes/partition/petition/g
22:37.09sontekwill it work with any sip client or does it have to be twinkle?
22:37.45Heartsbaneya any works decriptor did it with Mac OS Sip Client
22:37.51sontekewww
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22:39.03Heartsbanesontek: it is because decriptor has given up on Suse don't let him tell ya otherwise, it is all he uses on his laptop
22:39.25HeartsbaneI seen it with my own eyes
22:39.36sontekblasphemy!
22:40.01Heartsbanetalk to him
22:40.01sontekwhat has the world come to...
22:42.57sontek~lart decriptor
22:42.57infobottakes out a seltzer bottle and sprays decriptor in the face. You know, one of those old-school seltzer bottles clowns have? Yeah those. Anyway, consider yourself spritzed
22:43.19sontekhows life
22:44.05Heartsbaneit looks like it is wet
22:45.06sontekHeartsbane: whats for dinner?
22:45.22HeartsbaneDinner is over
22:45.27HeartsbaneI just finished
22:46.37sontekWHAT?!
22:46.45sontekwho eats dinner before 5?!
22:46.54sontekyou can't even drink until after 5! its in the contract!
22:48.49HeartsbaneI signed no such contract
22:49.07Jayce^Heartsbane: it's great, love it
22:49.33Heartsbanesontek: and since you are tall enough to be a hobbit, that was just first dinner
22:49.46Heartsbanesontek: second dinner is in 2 hours
22:52.34sontekHeartsbane: fatty!
22:52.45sontekHeartsbane: have you tried the openSUSE LiveCD?
22:52.52sontekHeartsbane: its installer is similar to ubuntu's
22:53.07sontekyou don't select any software, just define your partitions and go
22:56.28sontek~convert Heartsbane to openSUSE
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23:00.42sontekHeartsbane: I'm thinking i'm gonna colo this box even if xmission can't hook us up with a deal
23:01.33sontekHeartsbane: and get rid of my VPS
23:02.49Heartsbaneokay, what are you doing Friday... lets sit down and talk Friday
23:03.18Gatehm, what is the RedHat equivalent to aptitude?
23:03.59Heartsbaneyum
23:05.09Gateyum? I want to search packages in the pretty ncurses interface :(
23:05.29sontekHeartsbane: i'm buying a pitcher at SLPP! ;P
23:06.19sontekHeartsbane: but i'm heading home so I can eat some foodz
23:06.27sontekHeartsbane: we definitely need to meet about it
23:08.52sontekGate: i'm pretty sure yum has a gui too
23:11.17GateI don't have outright GUI, just console
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23:13.42HeartsbaneGate: yum search... k bye
23:15.11HeartsbaneI don't know why he doesn't do a irssi screen
23:16.14Heartsbanesontek: I have the OpenSuse Live CD I am going to try it on apocalypse
23:16.20Heartsbanethis weekend
23:17.09undertakingyouHeartsbane: why??
23:18.06Heartsbanecause I am interested in a lot of the things going on in Suse, I rarely use apocalypse, I mostly use him for testing
23:18.58undertakingyouWhat things are you interested in?
23:19.16undertakingyouherlo: will Fedora be there at the release party May 3rd?
23:19.20Heartsbaneubuntu borrows quite a bit from OpenSuse
23:19.39HeartsbaneCompiz, tomboy, evolution, etc.
23:19.53HeartsbaneI want to see the bleeding edge stuff
23:21.49Heartsbaneundertakingyou: Suse has more people contributing upstream so... just something new something different
23:21.54Heartsbaneundertakingyou: why?
23:23.38Heartsbaneit goes to stuff I was talking to jcastro about? I want to put a tomboy notes project on LP to help ubuntu users
23:24.04Heartsbanecause no one at Novell is going to use LP because they don't like it
23:24.24undertakingyouLP?  I guess I don't follow there.
23:26.03HeartsbaneLP == Launchpad
23:26.51undertakingyouso what is the Tomboy Notes project that you want to put up?
23:28.37Heartsbaneundertakingyou: it is the fact that if someone submits a bug against Tomboy on launchpad no one except the Ubuntu community knows about it
23:28.50Heartsbaneundertakingyou: I think we should change that
23:30.06undertakingyouThat is true, how will  installing SuSE change that ?
23:31.07HeartsbaneSuse will give me the opportunity to see the latest stuff that is all
23:31.26Heartsbaneif it gets fixed in a newer version so...
23:31.42HeartsbaneI could do it in a VM
23:32.34undertakingyouNo, I have tried the VM and I don't think it does anything justice.
23:33.11Heartsbanek

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