| 00:12.45 | sontek | peno: do you know where I can get a small rack for cheap? |
| 00:32.42 | herlo | decriptor: ping |
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| 01:19.22 | peno | sontek: ebay |
| 01:22.03 | herlo | peno: that *isnt* helpful :( |
| 01:22.43 | sontek | peno: nah, i'm not paying for shipping |
| 01:22.47 | sontek | I want something local |
| 01:22.55 | peno | coleman's? |
| 01:24.17 | sontek | what are they? |
| 01:25.37 | peno | they're a supply house |
| 01:25.45 | peno | sell all sorts of networking goodies |
| 01:25.51 | peno | they don't have a www |
| 01:26.17 | peno | kind of like greybar or anixter |
| 01:26.33 | peno | 40 Bowers Way |
| 01:26.33 | peno | Salt Lake City, UT 84115 |
| 01:26.34 | peno | (801) 484-5238â |
| 01:29.24 | peno | what do you need a small rack for? |
| 01:30.43 | sontek | My servers at my house |
| 01:30.52 | sontek | I've got 3 rackmounts sitting on the floor |
| 01:30.54 | sontek | they are all 1u |
| 01:31.00 | peno | ah |
| 01:31.16 | peno | so you'd need like a 42u 4 post frame |
| 01:33.26 | sontek | my ceiling is only 7' high |
| 01:33.42 | sontek | I've thought abaout just building something in my closet |
| 01:33.54 | peno | you could do something with 2x4's.. |
| 01:33.56 | herlo | sontek: we did that at my last place... |
| 01:34.08 | herlo | and that's what I am considering doing under my stairs |
| 01:34.39 | sontek | yeah, i'm just planning it all right now because i'm re-drywalling the 2 back bedrooms |
| 01:34.46 | sontek | so I can wire everything up |
| 01:35.36 | peno | eventually I'm going to do the same, and wire my house. |
| 01:36.06 | sontek | well mine was forced onto me ;p over the winter my roof started leaking, and it was in the back bedrooms that i don't use |
| 01:36.16 | peno | oops |
| 01:36.19 | sontek | so I didn't notice until it owned one of my walls :P |
| 01:36.37 | herlo | sontek: oh! suck! |
| 01:37.21 | sontek | gives me a reason to wire :D |
| 01:37.32 | herlo | true that |
| 01:37.44 | peno | and drink beer while doing it |
| 01:38.05 | herlo | looks like I won't be going to the utahfm launch party after all |
| 01:40.18 | sontek | why not? |
| 01:40.20 | sontek | you could go right now |
| 01:41.40 | herlo | I know |
| 01:41.48 | herlo | but I'm way into my server reconfigure |
| 01:41.50 | sontek | gogoogogogoogo |
| 01:42.46 | herlo | haha |
| 01:47.10 | peno | server reconfig's are always fun |
| 01:47.23 | herlo | yup! |
| 01:47.44 | peno | I need to re-build my server entirely. |
| 01:48.11 | peno | just need to do figure out how to pay for it. |
| 01:49.38 | herlo | I'm actually moving my vps from one to another (newer) vps |
| 01:49.48 | herlo | so its more of a big move |
| 01:55.44 | Supaplex | I pay for mine with federal reserve notes |
| 02:10.58 | herlo | gah! this takes soo long! |
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| 03:29.26 | tristanbob__ | herlo, hello again |
| 03:29.48 | tristanbob__ | check out my cool new cloak |
| 03:29.49 | tristanbob__ | ;) |
| 03:30.16 | tristanbob__ | hmmm maybe just my tristanbob account |
| 03:30.42 | tristanbob__ | how do I take over my other nick? |
| 03:30.49 | sontek | yeah, it only cloaks when you are authed |
| 03:30.54 | sontek | but you can link multiple accounts together |
| 03:31.02 | sontek | so you can be cloaked with multiple accounts |
| 03:31.03 | tristanbob__ | sontek, I think mine are linked |
| 03:31.14 | sontek | tristanbob__: you can ghost your other account |
| 03:31.22 | tristanbob__ | maybe not this account with double underscore... |
| 03:31.25 | tristanbob__ | sontek, how?!!! |
| 03:31.40 | sontek | /msg nickserv ghost name password |
| 03:31.48 | sontek | you figured it out :P |
| 03:31.58 | tristanbob | coolio! |
| 03:32.03 | tristanbob | I am leet IRC haxor now |
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| 03:32.12 | sontek | w00t |
| 03:32.19 | sontek | silly ubuntu members |
| 03:32.19 | tristanbob | there goes my other account :) |
| 03:32.28 | tristanbob | linux is for kids |
| 03:32.38 | sontek | I like my cloak more ;) |
| 03:32.56 | tristanbob | sontek, opensuse has a membership process? |
| 03:33.01 | sontek | ofcourse |
| 03:33.35 | tristanbob | I can't find it on gogole |
| 03:35.02 | sontek | its a super secret society |
| 03:35.07 | sontek | we don't just let anyone in! |
| 03:35.44 | tristanbob | :0 |
| 03:36.04 | tristanbob | sontek, the night time si the right time, the night time is the right time... |
| 03:39.29 | sontek | haha |
| 03:39.40 | sontek | suse sucks at the whole marketing/community thing |
| 03:39.55 | sontek | only place I've ever seen our memberships advertised is on the mailing lists |
| 03:40.06 | sontek | but thats also good, because then only active members know about it |
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| 03:57.00 | herlo | tristanbob: what is a cloak? |
| 03:57.21 | tristanbob | hides the user information on IRC info |
| 03:57.35 | tristanbob | so no IP address, instead whatever you want! |
| 03:57.42 | herlo | I see who you are :) |
| 03:57.53 | herlo | tristanbob: you aren't using irssi are you? |
| 03:58.00 | tristanbob | nah |
| 03:58.04 | herlo | nerd |
| 03:58.12 | tristanbob | xchat2 (the GPL version, mind you) |
| 03:58.16 | herlo | sontek: you ever used flatpages for anything? |
| 03:58.20 | herlo | tristanbob: k |
| 03:58.30 | tristanbob | herlo, I used them for making paper airplaines |
| 03:59.16 | herlo | tristanbob: no you didn't! Those are pieces of paper, this is software! |
| 04:24.16 | sontek | herlo: yeah |
| 04:24.19 | sontek | herlo: what you trying to do? |
| 04:24.37 | sontek | herlo: all you have to do is hook up the flatpages middleware and mark it as an installed app |
| 04:26.13 | undertakingyou | sontek: ping |
| 04:26.21 | sontek | undertakingyou: hi! |
| 04:28.01 | undertakingyou | sontek: so I just had a strange thought. Why does sontek use linux? |
| 04:28.01 | undertakingyou | oh, and are you having a good day? |
| 04:28.39 | herlo | ldskjfdslkfjdsflkj |
| 04:28.50 | DexterTheDragon | bless you |
| 04:29.07 | sontek | undertakingyou: i'm having a pretty good day :) |
| 04:29.26 | herlo | stupid qworst! |
| 04:29.28 | sontek | undertakingyou: so are you wondering how I got started in Linux, or why I use Linux even though I work in a windows shop? |
| 04:29.33 | herlo | they f*#$Ding suck! |
| 04:30.01 | undertakingyou | herlo: wow, not even regular f*#$ing |
| 04:30.29 | herlo | sontek: I'm just trying to find an easy way to list all of the flatpages in a flexible way. it seems template_tags are the way |
| 04:31.08 | sontek | herlo: If you want to list them in multiple pages, then you'll need a template tag |
| 04:31.12 | herlo | undertakingyou: yeah, for the past hour I've been fighting with net connectivity |
| 04:31.22 | sontek | herlo: but all you need to do is pull the list from the db and loop through it |
| 04:31.54 | herlo | sontek: sure, but I was thinking of having it load into the base.html |
| 04:32.55 | herlo | sontek: any simple_tag code examples you can throw my way? |
| 04:34.01 | sontek | a template tag is just a simple python method, just like a view |
| 04:34.25 | herlo | yeah, I was looking at it, but it seems there's some sort of node and render functionality I have to write |
| 04:34.43 | herlo | I'm missing something, I've written template filters before, they seem pretty easy |
| 04:34.50 | sontek | http://rafb.net/p/pRW4yd52.html |
| 04:34.55 | sontek | theres 2 tags I wrote |
| 04:34.59 | herlo | k, tx |
| 04:35.07 | sontek | do you want a filter or a tag? |
| 04:35.38 | sontek | http://rafb.net/p/uS6eiw56.html |
| 04:35.47 | sontek | theres 2 filters you can learn from |
| 04:36.18 | herlo | right, so the inclusion tag you reference there must be a separate template? |
| 04:36.41 | sontek | yeah |
| 04:36.48 | herlo | hmm |
| 04:36.56 | herlo | I guess that'll work |
| 04:37.00 | sontek | well, the 2 of them don't need separate templates |
| 04:37.08 | sontek | but the template tag does need a template |
| 04:37.19 | herlo | well, for instance, I already have the stuff written in a pre-existing template, can I use that? |
| 04:37.29 | herlo | its the base template |
| 04:38.19 | sontek | you'd move the logic to the template tag template |
| 04:38.31 | sontek | and then you'd call it like {% show_random_tips %} |
| 04:38.58 | herlo | right, okay. That's what i was hoping for, pretty easy then |
| 04:39.02 | herlo | tx |
| 04:39.10 | herlo | ~buy sontek beer |
| 04:39.11 | infobot | ACTION goes to S-Mart and gets a dozen beers for sontek |
| 04:40.37 | sontek | yay!! I love S-Mart |
| 04:40.46 | sontek | ~boomstick |
| 04:40.54 | sontek | WHAT?! no boomstick?! |
| 04:40.59 | herlo | sorry :( |
| 04:56.54 | herlo | frack! |
| 04:58.18 | herlo | says it can't find the stupid templatetag! |
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| 05:02.52 | herlo | gah! |
| 05:05.00 | herlo | I think I foudn it, stupid me |
| 05:08.23 | herlo | k, maybe not |
| 05:11.27 | whiteinge | is there a __init__.py in the templatetag folder? (that one _always_ gets me) |
| 05:12.23 | herlo | yes |
| 05:12.30 | herlo | I thought that was it at first |
| 05:12.57 | herlo | I thought it was also related to the location of the templatetags dir |
| 05:13.07 | herlo | but that doesn't seem to matter either |
| 05:13.16 | herlo | its a very simple template too |
| 05:13.16 | whiteinge | where is it? |
| 05:13.27 | herlo | well, its currently in common/templatetags |
| 05:13.35 | herlo | common is in my INSTALLED_APPS |
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| 05:14.08 | herlo | whiteinge: btw, we're having a HackNight at my house tomorrow night if you wanna join us, we'll be working on conman |
| 05:15.11 | whiteinge | ooh! lemme see what I can do. |
| 05:15.16 | whiteinge | what time? |
| 05:15.24 | herlo | its in the topic |
| 05:15.37 | herlo | I need to update that though |
| 05:15.52 | *** topic/#utos by herlo -> Utah Open Source Conference - 2008.utosc.com | HackNight - Saturday, April 19 @ 7:30pm |
| 05:16.36 | whiteinge | you could try to import the templatetag from the shell and see what turns up. |
| 05:16.41 | *** topic/#utos by herlo -> Utah Open Source Conference - 2008.utosc.com | HackNight - 4/19, 7:30pm - Map: http://tinyurl.com/29v5dn |
| 05:17.04 | herlo | whiteinge: you always suggest that and then I find the problem. I wish I could remember to try that stuff... lets see... |
| 05:18.24 | herlo | how would one go about doing that in the shell? |
| 05:20.07 | whiteinge | try something like ``from yourconmandir.common.templatetags import yourtagname`` |
| 05:20.40 | whiteinge | Oh, did you remember to ``{% load yourtagfilename %}`` in the template? |
| 05:20.46 | herlo | yes |
| 05:21.07 | herlo | hang on, I'm onto something |
| 05:22.41 | herlo | got it! |
| 05:22.47 | herlo | had a stupid typo |
| 05:22.54 | herlo | FlatPages insteadof FlatPage |
| 05:23.09 | whiteinge | heh |
| 05:23.16 | herlo | that's how it goes |
| 05:23.48 | herlo | whiteinge: tx |
| 05:23.49 | whiteinge | sometimes for hours upon hours upon hours |
| 05:23.56 | whiteinge | np |
| 05:24.03 | whiteinge | I'll try to make it tomorrow. |
| 05:24.22 | herlo | k, cool. Either way, you can always get online... |
| 05:27.36 | whiteinge | good point. in that case i'll definitely attend. :-) |
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| 05:28.56 | herlo | :), but if you can come here, it'll be better comraderie |
| 05:29.01 | herlo | oh, and foods! |
| 05:29.20 | whiteinge | excellent! |
| 05:29.36 | herlo | ping me tomorrow sometime if you are coming this way... |
| 05:30.33 | whiteinge | i'll ping you if i'm not. pregnant wife, sometimes things come up last minute. |
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| 05:31.14 | herlo | np, that's fair |
| 05:31.34 | herlo | heads to bed after a successful addition is in place to utos-conman, flatpages! |
| 05:31.43 | whiteinge | g'night |
| 05:32.03 | herlo | :) u2 |
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| 16:56.58 | herlo | morning |
| 16:59.36 | sontek | afternoon |
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| 17:13.31 | peno | beer thirty |
| 17:17.43 | herlo | almost! |
| 17:38.22 | peno | it's after beer thirty now |
| 17:52.15 | herlo | somewhere! |
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| 18:21.46 | *** topic/#utos is Utah Open Source Conference - 2008.utosc.com | HackNight - 4/19, 7:30pm - Map: http://tinyurl.com/29v5dn |
| 18:57.08 | sontek | herlo: who are the keynoters right now? and if I had a badass dev thats originally from Utah interested, think we could fit him in? |
| 18:57.11 | sontek | hes working for RH now |
| 18:58.37 | herlo | sontek: probably |
| 19:11.50 | herlo | sontek: cool, come to hacknight tonight :) |
| 19:12.07 | sontek | pfft |
| 19:12.14 | herlo | oh, you know you wanna! |
| 19:12.18 | sontek | i'm hacking already! I don't need a night to do it! ;) |
| 19:12.33 | herlo | but you aren't hacking with us ! |
| 19:12.42 | herlo | we're the cool hackers |
| 19:13.00 | sontek | trying to figure out how to get the width of a font character in comparison to a pango width, so I can see how many characters will fit in the layout |
| 19:13.17 | sontek | so, i'm basically stuck with monospace fonts once I figure this out |
| 19:13.23 | sontek | but I don't see any other way to do it |
| 19:13.28 | sontek | and theres no resources on it |
| 19:13.41 | herlo | you should document it |
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| 19:14.29 | sontek | pfft, real men don't need documentation! |
| 19:14.30 | sontek | ;) |
| 19:14.34 | sontek | or directions |
| 19:15.12 | sontek | I'm hoping I can figure it out so I can document it |
| 19:15.18 | sontek | I hate doing lots of math ;p |
| 19:18.57 | herlo | haha |
| 20:41.11 | herlo | undertakingyou: ping |