| 00:01.01 | herlo | k |
| 00:30.04 | gatewarstrek | Heartsbane: but society would be soooooo boring. |
| 00:33.56 | undertakingyou | herlo: hi |
| 00:34.15 | undertakingyou | Heartsbane: hi |
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| 01:54.36 | herlo | undertakingyou: hello |
| 01:55.37 | herlo | kkubasik: ping |
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| 04:33.20 | Heartsbane | undertakingyou: hi |
| 04:34.25 | fozzmoo | herlo: Pingage |
| 04:50.52 | herlo | fozzmoo: pongage! |
| 04:50.59 | fozzmoo | yo-age. |
| 04:51.05 | fozzmoo | you live. |
| 04:51.07 | herlo | yes |
| 04:51.24 | herlo | I've been relaxing, so I don't feel so ill tomorrow |
| 04:51.30 | fozzmoo | good idea |
| 04:51.37 | herlo | what's up? |
| 04:52.02 | fozzmoo | We were gonna talk more about the 3DP |
| 04:52.14 | herlo | 3DPP? |
| 04:52.19 | fozzmoo | 3-day Plan |
| 04:52.23 | herlo | oh |
| 04:52.29 | herlo | we were? |
| 04:52.36 | fozzmoo | Yeah- you wanted me to blog about it. |
| 04:52.41 | herlo | right |
| 04:52.55 | herlo | figured you could make some assumptions |
| 04:53.12 | herlo | and blog about what the days would mean |
| 04:53.27 | fozzmoo | So, okay. you want me to kind of describe the reasoning for why we're doing it this way? |
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| 04:54.17 | herlo | more or less |
| 04:54.36 | herlo | I guess since we're having this coversation |
| 04:54.49 | herlo | we might as well address why anybody should come |
| 04:55.02 | herlo | I mean its cool and all, but why would you go? |
| 04:55.11 | herlo | why did you gl last year? |
| 04:55.17 | herlo | s/gl/go/g |
| 04:55.32 | herlo | what are we going to discuss? |
| 04:55.56 | herlo | and who's to benefit |
| 04:56.18 | herlo | does this help? |
| 04:56.48 | fozzmoo | uh huh |
| 04:56.59 | fozzmoo | I'll give it a stab and you can take a look at it and let me know what you think. |
| 04:57.14 | herlo | right, that's kinda where I was going last night |
| 04:58.03 | herlo | fozzmoo: we want to have a lot of articles talkign about 2008.utosc.com, building it up. Showing what's avaialble |
| 04:58.12 | fozzmoo | ok |
| 04:58.16 | herlo | tellign people why they shoudl come |
| 04:58.32 | herlo | so if you think of something beneficial, lets discuss shortly and then get it up |
| 04:58.50 | herlo | kkubasik: ping |
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| 05:26.57 | fozzmoo | Yeah! |
| 05:27.13 | herlo | undertakingyou: so fozzmoo and I are discussing other ideas for conference topics |
| 05:27.20 | herlo | what do you think would be good? |
| 05:27.31 | herlo | we've come up with some cool ones like |
| 05:27.41 | undertakingyou | What have you come up with? |
| 05:27.56 | undertakingyou | you are going to tell me to look at the wiki huh? |
| 05:28.00 | herlo | sysadmin for the average man |
| 05:28.16 | herlo | maybe hacking for housewives? |
| 05:28.17 | fozzmoo | hehheh. |
| 05:28.22 | herlo | undertakingyou: no |
| 05:28.24 | undertakingyou | nice. |
| 05:28.31 | fozzmoo | I was picking herlo's brain for newbie ideas. |
| 05:28.34 | herlo | this is brainstorming, and fozzmoo has better ideas |
| 05:28.37 | undertakingyou | I thought one could be howto share opensource with a friend |
| 05:28.46 | undertakingyou | Specifically a windows loving friend. |
| 05:28.48 | fozzmoo | Answer: "Invite them to UTOSC 2008" |
| 05:28.48 | herlo | ahh, that's one |
| 05:29.02 | herlo | open source for your family |
| 05:29.05 | herlo | getting them involved |
| 05:29.08 | fozzmoo | You know... that might be a marketing idea. |
| 05:29.14 | herlo | family/friends/etc |
| 05:29.24 | undertakingyou | yep, I thought that could be cool. |
| 05:29.36 | herlo | fozzmoo: exactly, that's why saturday is free if you come with someone who pays |
| 05:29.42 | fozzmoo | Yeah. |
| 05:29.49 | undertakingyou | Another could be howto build a computer for your kids with $50 |
| 05:30.01 | herlo | undertakingyou: can you do that? |
| 05:30.02 | undertakingyou | or unde $100 |
| 05:30.04 | undertakingyou | Yep |
| 05:30.11 | undertakingyou | My server here cost me $25 |
| 05:30.12 | undertakingyou | :) |
| 05:30.15 | herlo | $100 I can see |
| 05:30.22 | undertakingyou | Well, and we can do that. |
| 05:30.24 | herlo | $50 seems pushing it for anything useful |
| 05:30.39 | undertakingyou | Part of the beauty seems to me that FOSS will run on most anything |
| 05:31.35 | herlo | Installfest wouldn't be out of the question either |
| 05:31.46 | undertakingyou | Oh I agree with that. |
| 05:31.59 | undertakingyou | We could do a pxe server or do your burn station. |
| 05:32.45 | herlo | I think the point of that would actually to help people feel comfortable with installing Linux alongside Winders |
| 05:32.45 | undertakingyou | how about howto write a howto. |
| 05:32.58 | undertakingyou | right, don't forget to defrag. |
| 05:32.59 | herlo | you crack me up, that might just work |
| 05:33.02 | herlo | fozzmoo: where'd you go? |
| 05:33.06 | fozzmoo | The planning and organizing committee is very excited about getting family members involved in what would ordinarily be considered fairly exclusive to geeks. There will be plenty of activities and conference sessions Saturday, August 30 targeting children and significant others so they can learn how open source may benefit them. We'll have games and educational software for the kids like SuperTuxCart, SuperTux, Planet Penguin Racer, Gcompris, a |
| 05:33.11 | fozzmoo | I'm writing the stupid blog! |
| 05:33.12 | undertakingyou | there he is. |
| 05:33.16 | herlo | fozzmoo: hehe |
| 05:33.52 | herlo | fozzmoo: awesome |
| 05:34.14 | fozzmoo | Am I allowed to mention that Saturday is free if you attend with a paying registrant? |
| 05:34.36 | herlo | fozzmoo: another question, I guess that means we'll need some kid sitters, was thinking of asking some of the guys who are church leaders to handle that on Sunday with a few ladies mixed in |
| 05:34.56 | herlo | don't know how to PC that |
| 05:34.57 | undertakingyou | herlo: you need to have ladies there somewhere. |
| 05:35.01 | fozzmoo | Sure. Logistics. |
| 05:35.03 | undertakingyou | Liability man. |
| 05:35.06 | herlo | undertakingyou: I know |
| 05:35.13 | fozzmoo | We'll figure it out. |
| 05:35.33 | herlo | fozzmoo: that's somethign we need to do too, is get someone from the church involved now |
| 05:35.56 | fozzmoo | herlo: I'm sure there's a Church building near where you live... and the doors are unlocked every Sunday. |
| 05:36.01 | fozzmoo | ;-) |
| 05:36.12 | undertakingyou | fozzmoo: that was sly |
| 05:36.22 | fozzmoo | I'm sure they'd love to see you, meet you, and greet you. |
| 05:37.06 | fozzmoo | heh. |
| 05:37.12 | herlo | fozzmoo: good luck with that |
| 05:37.13 | fozzmoo | We'll get the kid situation figured out. |
| 05:37.18 | fozzmoo | Not tonight. |
| 05:37.20 | undertakingyou | :) |
| 05:37.31 | undertakingyou | probably not for several nights. |
| 05:37.46 | herlo | fozzmoo: no, I didn't mean to say that I'd email tom for the kid situatoin |
| 05:37.53 | fozzmoo | heh. |
| 05:38.09 | fozzmoo | "Tom, do you think your wife could come watch the kids at UTOSC 2008?" |
| 05:38.10 | herlo | I just meant that I'd like to get them involved in the planning because we will be doing this *family* day thing too |
| 05:38.20 | herlo | fozzmoo: he'd probably say, sure! |
| 05:38.27 | undertakingyou | I think it is a good idea. |
| 05:38.34 | fozzmoo | Yeah- and she'd bring her relief society sisters. |
| 05:38.40 | herlo | family day would include some genealogy stuff probably as well as other things |
| 05:38.46 | fozzmoo | yep. |
| 05:39.11 | undertakingyou | I don't think people realize that all the LDS stuff will run on linux. |
| 05:39.18 | undertakingyou | So that would be a good howto. |
| 05:40.37 | herlo | right |
| 05:40.43 | herlo | undertakingyou: you need to get after her on that |
| 05:40.48 | herlo | she's slacking |
| 05:41.21 | fozzmoo | So, herlo, FUDcon was your first exposure to barcamp? |
| 05:43.42 | herlo | yes |
| 05:43.45 | fozzmoo | k. |
| 05:43.48 | herlo | it was amazing, |
| 05:43.55 | herlo | have you ever been to one? |
| 05:46.17 | herlo | undertakingyou: I should be in bed already |
| 05:50.39 | fozzmoo | Earlier this year, Utah Open Source Foundation (UTOSF) head cheese Clint Savage attended FUDCon, a conference for users and developers of the Fedora Linux distribution. One of the days of this conference was set up as a BarCamp, where attendees meet the beginning of the day and decide as a group what conference topics and activities will happen that day. The BarCamp process is fairly informal, but there is one rule: Every attendee has to partic |
| 05:52.15 | herlo | nice |
| 05:53.06 | herlo | fozzmoo: undertakingyou: whatdya think? http://pastebin.ca/895958 |
| 05:53.26 | herlo | Its a letter to Tom Welch of the LDS Church's technical team |
| 05:53.43 | fozzmoo | Looks good. |
| 05:55.08 | herlo | cool, gonna send it of now |
| 05:55.30 | herlo | fozzmoo: this article by tom is pretty funny |
| 05:55.32 | herlo | http://tinyurl.com/3ddkus |
| 05:56.15 | fozzmoo | Nice. |
| 05:56.20 | herlo | fozzmoo: btw, we're planning a migration of utos.org sometime soon |
| 05:56.27 | herlo | to centos5 |
| 05:56.31 | fozzmoo | I guess I'm a little insulated from that being that my wife is also a geek. |
| 05:56.37 | fozzmoo | Excellent. |
| 05:56.56 | herlo | Lamont informed me he's ready for us to move as soon as he has the servers up next week probably |
| 05:57.26 | herlo | yeah, then it'll be just a matter of upgrading rather than migrating from one distro to another |
| 05:57.40 | herlo | fozzmoo: thanks for the hard work |
| 05:57.44 | fozzmoo | np |
| 05:57.50 | herlo | undertakingyou: thanks for the ideas (and the commentary) |
| 05:57.55 | herlo | oh, and the hard work |
| 05:57.58 | fozzmoo | Do you want me to just publish this when I'm done or save it as a draft? |
| 05:58.12 | herlo | I'd say publish it for tomorrow night sometime |
| 05:58.16 | fozzmoo | ok |
| 05:58.36 | herlo | that way, we can write a whole bunch of them and stretch them out over weeks |
| 05:59.10 | herlo | I'd say 2-3 per week should be more than enough, I really don't want to drive people crazy like it would make me |
| 06:07.16 | fozzmoo | Ok. saved as a draft. |
| 06:07.35 | herlo | fozzmoo: do you know how to publish for later? |
| 06:07.46 | fozzmoo | I set a timestamp for tomorrow night. |
| 06:07.52 | fozzmoo | Is that how you do it? |
| 06:09.39 | herlo | yeah |
| 06:09.46 | herlo | you just said it was a draft though |
| 06:10.47 | herlo | it looks good to me though... |
| 06:12.03 | fozzmoo | I saved it as a draft, but I also changed the timestamp. |
| 06:12.14 | fozzmoo | if I publish it with a future timestamp, it won't be public until then? |
| 06:12.21 | herlo | right |
| 06:12.30 | herlo | so its safe to publish it |
| 06:12.36 | herlo | with a future timestamp |
| 06:12.56 | fozzmoo | ok. |
| 06:13.09 | fozzmoo | you like my title? |
| 06:14.07 | herlo | yeah |
| 06:14.10 | herlo | I'm fixing typos |
| 06:14.31 | fozzmoo | TYPOS?! In *my* article? |
| 06:14.39 | herlo | yup |
| 06:14.51 | fozzmoo | Dang. |
| 06:15.04 | herlo | you had Friends and family, that's not an appropriate title :) |
| 06:15.05 | herlo | hehe |
| 06:15.20 | herlo | and you typed beheld, when you meant be held |
| 06:16.38 | fozzmoo | What do you mean about Friends and Family not being appropriate? |
| 06:16.44 | herlo | fozzmoo: we should also think about a blog post for the seniors (as in old people) who might be interested in attending a genealogy seminar or whatever... |
| 06:17.14 | herlo | fozzmoo: it was Friends and family, not Friends and Family, a typo which isn't appropriate for the title |
| 06:17.25 | herlo | :) |
| 06:17.30 | fozzmoo | Oh. I'm not big on capitalizing every word. |
| 06:17.32 | herlo | minor detail. |
| 06:17.38 | fozzmoo | Comes from my days in the newspaper business. |
| 06:17.49 | herlo | you dont have to capitalize every word, just ones that are important |
| 06:17.56 | herlo | what newspaper did you work for? |
| 06:18.01 | fozzmoo | The Utah Statesman. |
| 06:18.05 | herlo | I used to be in the newspaper business too |
| 06:18.17 | fozzmoo | And then my buddy Chadd and I did an underground thing for a few months. |
| 06:18.24 | fozzmoo | Called Blessed Victim. :) |
| 06:18.30 | herlo | oh, so you know the guys at the Utah County Journal, now Digital Technology Int'l and Liberty Press |
| 06:18.54 | herlo | I used to work for them... |
| 06:19.02 | fozzmoo | No, I wanted to know what you thought of the article title: Utah Open Source Conference 2008: HOWTO Diversify |
| 06:19.21 | fozzmoo | Cool. I wrote a complete newspaper web publishing system in PHP for the Statesman in 1997 |
| 06:19.25 | herlo | I said it was a good name |
| 06:19.38 | fozzmoo | PHP v2.0 |
| 06:19.51 | fozzmoo | It was right after that I abandoned PHP completely and never looked back. |
| 06:20.09 | herlo | nice, apparently DTI wrote one too about then, and since they didn't really have a successful paper, they went into business selling the publishing system... |
| 06:20.23 | herlo | haha, now PHP is at v6 |
| 06:20.26 | herlo | or soon anyway |
| 06:20.36 | herlo | that is quite a while |
| 06:21.22 | herlo | anyway, back to packing. Thanks for the blog post. Goodnight |
| 06:22.51 | fozzmoo | http://www.statesman.usu.edu/backissues.phtml |
| 06:23.43 | fozzmoo | http://www.statesman.usu.edu/story.phtml?p=1997-04-18,4,1 |
| 06:23.47 | fozzmoo | That one is hilarious |
| 06:25.35 | fozzmoo | http://www.statesman.usu.edu/section.phtml?p=1997-04-25,2 |
| 06:30.17 | herlo | cool |
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| 14:36.55 | herlo | morning |
| 14:56.42 | decriptor | herlo: morning |
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| 14:58.25 | herlo | decriptor: hi |
| 14:58.55 | decriptor | herlo: hi |
| 15:00.15 | herlo | decriptor: so hows class today? |
| 15:01.09 | decriptor | don't have any |
| 15:01.23 | decriptor | I just work on Friday, in a vain attempt to make up hours |
| 15:01.31 | herlo | oh |
| 15:01.44 | herlo | Like what, 30 hours on friday? |
| 15:01.45 | herlo | :) |
| 15:01.45 | decriptor | if I hit 24-25 hours a weeks thats great, sadly it just doesn't cut it though |
| 15:01.59 | decriptor | herlo: don't have the patience for that :) but probably should |
| 15:02.30 | herlo | you don't have the patience for work? |
| 15:02.34 | decriptor | if only I could stop time, |
| 15:02.35 | herlo | what a shame |
| 15:02.46 | decriptor | that many hours straight at least |
| 15:02.57 | herlo | well, duh! |
| 15:03.39 | decriptor | yeah, but I should be working more hours though, just not enough money |
| 15:03.58 | herlo | tell emily to get a job :) |
| 15:04.09 | herlo | I know, she already has one... |
| 15:04.18 | decriptor | one? try several |
| 15:04.24 | herlo | well, sure |
| 15:04.24 | decriptor | 2 that have legs too |
| 15:04.32 | decriptor | :) |
| 15:04.52 | herlo | luckily they don't leave the house (most of the time) unless she's there |
| 15:05.38 | herlo | shower time |
| 15:05.47 | decriptor | please do :P |
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| 15:25.05 | herlo | hehe |
| 15:30.08 | Kemotaha | Hey, the bad smell is gone |
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| 16:09.35 | sontek | pfft, I have 2 jobs that have 4 legs! That trumps her wimpy 2 legs |
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| 16:28.21 | herlo | sontek: you *are* a smartass |
| 16:29.08 | sontek | :D :D |
| 16:29.52 | herlo | so I am at work today the first time before all of my students this entire week |
| 16:30.17 | herlo | which I think is weird, because its not because I was late, just that they were really early... |
| 16:30.19 | sontek | that means you slacked off all week! |
| 16:30.40 | sontek | I've been here before everyone else in the office everyday this week |
| 16:30.45 | sontek | and I haven't showed up before 9 more than once :P |
| 16:30.53 | sontek | darn slackers! |
| 16:31.02 | herlo | sontek: that means *they* are all slackers, and you are just on time |
| 16:33.02 | sontek | so is conman finished yet? |
| 16:33.22 | sontek | i've been busy at work / personal crap and haven't had time to work on it at all |
| 16:33.37 | herlo | sontek: we've got a bunch of bugs, but mostly it works |
| 16:33.39 | sontek | but I want to work on it :P |
| 16:33.57 | herlo | I need to get the captcha working today though. Probably do it on my flight to LA |
| 16:34.14 | sontek | whats wrong with it? |
| 16:34.35 | herlo | it doesn't render the image |
| 16:34.41 | herlo | mostly a font issue |
| 16:34.59 | herlo | I've not really looked deep into it yet, but that was the issue before |
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| 17:14.19 | linuxalien | What's cookin guys? |
| 17:14.42 | sontek | I dunno, but I hope its chinese, i'm hungry! |
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| 17:17.32 | linuxalien | Mmmm Chinese food is delicious |
| 17:17.48 | linuxalien | brb |
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| 21:01.10 | *** topic/#utos is UTOSF - http://utosf.org | HB139 Recording is being resurrected. Check back | Check #utos-dev for status on ConMan |
| 21:32.50 | peno | i had chinese for lunch today at some hole in the wall place in plano. it was tasty. |
| 21:38.13 | Heartsbane | Oh |
| 21:39.55 | peno | heartsbane: hi 2 u from DFW |
| 21:40.10 | Heartsbane | hi right back |
| 21:41.01 | Heartsbane | you at the airport |
| 21:41.30 | peno | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:41.48 | Heartsbane | got a ride back from the SLC airport |
| 21:41.52 | peno | yah |
| 21:41.55 | Heartsbane | k |
| 21:41.59 | peno | wife is picking me up |
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| 23:32.15 | herlo | peno: hi, I'm in LAS, you at DFW still? |