| 00:39.55 | herlo | Heartsbane: you coming over tonight at 7pm for gamenight? |
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| 01:53.28 | herlo | w00t, 10 minutes to game night! |
| 01:53.51 | decriptor | w00t, 2 hours of physics left |
| 01:55.49 | herlo | decriptor: slacker |
| 01:55.59 | herlo | you are supposed to be here, gaming it up! |
| 02:01.52 | herlo | kkubasik: ping for gamenigth |
| 02:01.59 | herlo | s/th/ht/g |
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| 02:14.06 | herlo | Heartsbane: bring your laptop |
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| 06:42.45 | herlo | ~lart fozzmoo |
| 06:42.45 | infobot | decapitates fozzmoo conan the destroyer style |
| 06:45.43 | Heartsbane | kkubasik: when are you? |
| 06:57.34 | sontek | ~punch Heartsbane |
| 06:57.35 | infobot | ACTION lets fly with a wild haymaker which catches Heartsbane right on the nose |
| 07:07.57 | Gate_Laptop | whoops |
| 07:08.10 | herlo | Gate_Laptop: haha |
| 07:08.56 | sontek | I had missionaries come by my house one time, so I grabbed a corona and drank it while they discussed the book with me |
| 07:09.00 | sontek | they didn't even mention it |
| 07:09.06 | sontek | they just kept spreading the word |
| 07:09.48 | sontek | maybe next time I'll do a shot every time they say tribulation or prophet |
| 07:16.40 | sontek | herlo: what exactly are you trying to do? you can google 'screen scraping with python' to get good information on it |
| 07:21.17 | herlo | sontek: are you wathing my django conv? |
| 07:21.25 | herlo | s/th/tch/g |
| 07:21.54 | sontek | herlo: yeah |
| 07:22.08 | sontek | herlo: but this chan has less traffic so easier to talk about it :p |
| 07:22.14 | herlo | sontek: right |
| 07:22.36 | herlo | well, I'm doing something with tinyurl.com/api-create.php |
| 07:22.46 | herlo | and I need to get the tinyurl back |
| 07:23.09 | herlo | even though I could easily enough create my own tinyurls if I wanted to |
| 07:23.49 | herlo | so I am basically wanting the data back and not the headers... |
| 07:24.04 | sontek | they have an open api you can hit via jabascript |
| 07:24.07 | sontek | javascript* |
| 07:24.13 | sontek | you dont have to screen scrape the page |
| 07:25.58 | herlo | yeah, I knwo |
| 07:26.13 | herlo | but I don't wanna do it with javascript, its the same function either way |
| 07:27.04 | herlo | mostly, I want to keep the tinyurls in python, not javascript |
| 07:27.51 | herlo | sontek: I figured it out |
| 07:29.15 | sontek | yeah, you just need to do urllib.urlopen(url).read() |
| 07:29.47 | sontek | but javascript is sexy =) |
| 07:30.20 | herlo | sontek: might be, but it doesn't do what I want in this scenario |
| 07:30.29 | herlo | besides, I'll be using js for cooler stuff later |
| 07:30.45 | herlo | and I might change it then...just trying to get the basic framework built out here |
| 07:30.55 | sontek | well that code I just showed ya will work too |
| 07:33.02 | herlo | yeah, that's pretty much what I figured out |
| 07:33.05 | herlo | sontek: tx |
| 07:34.06 | sontek | http://rafb.net/p/VElV2k13.html |
| 07:35.13 | herlo | sontek: yup |
| 07:36.52 | sontek | but i'm gonna go snagup some del taco and then head to bed |
| 07:36.54 | sontek | gnight |
| 07:37.15 | herlo | nice |
| 07:37.17 | herlo | ciao |
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| 08:58.51 | herlo | so that's nice now |
| 08:59.01 | herlo | bout fracking time |
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| 16:00.30 | herlo | morning |
| 16:00.55 | decriptor | herlo: morning |
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| 16:15.47 | herlo | decriptor: hi |
| 16:16.40 | herlo | memilyrae: hi |
| 16:16.42 | herlo | Heartsbane: hi |
| 16:16.43 | herlo | undertakingyou: |
| 16:16.48 | herlo | fozzmoo: hi |
| 16:16.52 | herlo | Gate: hi |
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| 16:16.59 | herlo | decriptor: nah, just heading to work now |
| 16:17.08 | fozzmoo | herlo: Hello compassionate leader. |
| 16:17.13 | herlo | whoever else I missed, hi |
| 16:17.13 | decriptor | ah, well save drive |
| 16:17.16 | herlo | fozzmoo: hi |
| 16:17.28 | herlo | decriptor: I will treasure my drive today, just for you |
| 16:17.55 | decriptor | oh man, there went breakfast, new trash can please |
| 16:18.11 | herlo | decriptor: how else can I save my drive? |
| 16:18.25 | decriptor | crap |
| 16:18.28 | decriptor | safe |
| 16:18.33 | decriptor | close enough? |
| 16:19.01 | herlo | hehe sure |
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| 16:31.07 | Zelut | herlo: ping |
| 16:32.38 | decriptor | Zelut: he's on his way into work |
| 16:32.49 | Zelut | decriptor: figured |
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| 16:37.16 | sontek | kkubasi1: PEHNGG |
| 16:37.32 | kkubasi1 | sontek: POOOONNGNGG |
| 16:37.41 | kkubasi1 | ps. http://www.linuxchix.org/ |
| 16:37.44 | kkubasi1 | bow chicka |
| 16:37.56 | kkubasi1 | (is work safe) |
| 16:38.59 | sontek | kkubasi1: have you used both heapshot and heapbuddy? and which one do you prefer? |
| 16:39.21 | kkubasi1 | they are good for different things |
| 16:39.36 | kkubasi1 | heapbuddy is great for statistics on a total run |
| 16:40.00 | sontek | i'm looking for a backtrace of where the objects are being allocated |
| 16:40.02 | kkubasi1 | heapshot will give you snapshots, so its good at trying to find like one event that is spiking memory |
| 16:40.14 | kkubasi1 | heap-shot is probably best for that |
| 16:40.19 | kkubasi1 | and it has a nice gui |
| 16:40.40 | sontek | I looked at the gui lastnight but wasn't really seeing a way to get the events/methods allocating the objects |
| 16:40.51 | sontek | I think it showed the classes that were causing it though |
| 16:40.56 | kkubasi1 | you can see the call stack |
| 16:41.05 | sontek | but this was at like 4am, so I might not have been focusing to much :P |
| 16:41.05 | kkubasi1 | at least in svn you can, no idea when the last relese as |
| 16:41.07 | kkubasi1 | was* |
| 16:41.13 | sontek | mine was from svn |
| 16:41.19 | sontek | i'll look again tonight |
| 16:41.23 | kkubasi1 | alright, awesome |
| 16:41.48 | sontek | oh, and my beagle was taking up 160mb of mem lastnight |
| 16:41.51 | sontek | fix that shit! ;) |
| 16:42.02 | kkubasi1 | oooo, I need you! |
| 16:42.05 | kkubasi1 | what version? |
| 16:42.24 | kkubasi1 | that's a leak, is rare, and none of our devs can replicat use that high |
| 16:42.32 | kkubasi1 | were all sitting on like 30 mb rss |
| 16:42.44 | kkubasi1 | I mean real |
| 16:42.48 | kkubasi1 | and 120 vss |
| 16:43.01 | sontek | I can give you some heapshots of it when I get home |
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| 16:43.07 | sontek | its whatever version is released for suse 10.3 |
| 16:43.12 | kkubasi1 | oohhhh |
| 16:43.16 | kkubasi1 | yeah, that version sucks |
| 16:43.32 | kkubasi1 | I think beagle 0.3 is in that opensuse build service thing |
| 16:43.40 | sontek | I was debugging some tomboy memory issues lastnight and just happened to notice beagle was reaching 200mb :P |
| 16:43.52 | kkubasi1 | yeah, if you can get 0.3.2 |
| 16:43.57 | sontek | Tomboy has a terrible memory leak though |
| 16:43.59 | kkubasi1 | def do |
| 16:44.10 | kkubasi1 | yeah, it needs a rewrite of that |
| 16:44.13 | kkubasi1 | the note storage |
| 16:44.17 | sontek | yeah |
| 16:44.32 | sontek | I had it up to over 100mb after enough testing :P |
| 16:44.42 | kkubasi1 | should be persistant disk, we all agree its just too late in the gnome relese cycle to do that yet |
| 16:44.48 | kkubasi1 | do that now* |
| 16:44.51 | sontek | yeah |
| 16:44.55 | kkubasi1 | so we gotta do it for the next |
| 16:45.14 | sontek | but alot of the memory usage can be fixed without doing that |
| 16:45.22 | sontek | from what I was looking at in heapshot lastnight |
| 16:45.31 | kkubasi1 | that's cool |
| 16:45.40 | kkubasi1 | wanna put the shots somewhere public? |
| 16:45.42 | kkubasi1 | or e-mail |
| 16:45.48 | kkubasi1 | (since they contain some data)( |
| 16:46.09 | sontek | yeah, I'll go home for lunch and post them up |
| 16:46.36 | kkubasi1 | w00t max |
| 17:10.31 | decriptor | no |
| 17:10.35 | decriptor | ooops |
| 17:11.52 | decriptor | it would be cool if tomboy had a merge feature with the syncing stuff |
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| 17:59.55 | sontek | decriptor: what do you mean? |
| 18:17.22 | decriptor | sontek: when I sync my notes up over sshfs, its a keep local or remote option only |
| 18:17.56 | decriptor | it would be cool say if you were talking class notes as well as someone else and then wanted to merge them in the remote folder |
| 18:18.00 | decriptor | if that makes sense |
| 18:19.29 | Heartsbane | so take what is on local and remote, then blend it together |
| 18:19.35 | Heartsbane | right? |
| 18:20.15 | findlay | then add some pepper |
| 18:21.08 | decriptor | Heartsbane: that's not an option when you sync, its overwrite local or remote or do nothing |
| 18:21.22 | decriptor | it would be cool to have a svn merge like this |
| 18:21.29 | decriptor | but maybe with color? |
| 18:21.38 | Heartsbane | oh |
| 18:22.16 | Heartsbane | that makes more sense |
| 18:22.53 | kkubasik | the new svn will have intellegent branch merging |
| 18:23.06 | kkubasik | since that's like the number 1 reason people use drcs |
| 18:23.23 | decriptor | oh cool |
| 18:23.28 | decriptor | when is that coming out |
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| 19:30.30 | herlo | who needs svn when you've got git |
| 19:30.35 | herlo | git-svn makes it all better |
| 19:30.37 | herlo | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:37.07 | sontek | but I do use git to maintain my own branches of svn servers |
| 19:37.16 | sontek | when I'm doing major changes |
| 19:42.57 | herlo | yeah, exactly why git-svn is there |
| 19:43.28 | herlo | svn is nice, if you always have connectivity and are willing to wait, or are working from your machine without other devs |
| 19:43.51 | herlo | git is faster, more reliable and can be merged with others quickly and easily |
| 19:44.08 | herlo | and it doesn't require a network connection (hence the reliability statement) |
| 19:44.33 | sontek | git is faster for merges, its not any faster overall, and svn doesn't require a network connection either, until you want to commit |
| 19:44.35 | herlo | git is nice if you work alone or in a large group |
| 19:44.44 | sontek | but git is the same way, you have to have network access to merge with others ;) |
| 19:44.59 | herlo | sontek: right, but I like to have incremental commits rather than one big commit that could be lost |
| 19:45.15 | herlo | sontek: I think it comes down to philosophy |
| 19:45.20 | sontek | the only reason I like git is because I like to micro-commit, but I hate killing svn history because i'm anal, so I use git to maintain my mini-commits, and then do my large commit to svn |
| 19:45.32 | herlo | right |
| 19:45.50 | herlo | and if you like svn, just use git-svn on the backend, then you can use either |
| 19:46.32 | herlo | now that's a nice way to go |
| 19:48.42 | peno | airports are boring. |
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| 21:29.31 | Zelut | TimRiker: I've sent you an email.. when you get a minute. |
| 21:39.33 | TimRiker | Zelut: not that I'd guess your name from your nick, but I replied. :) |
| 21:40.21 | Zelut | TimRiker: spend much time with me and you learn I'm the Ubuntu Zealot. If its not ubuntu its crap! ;) |
| 21:40.49 | Zelut | TimRiker: ..and of course as nick it needed to be misspelled. |
| 21:42.18 | Zelut | TimRiker: at least that was me historically. I'm a bit more open at this point, but the nick has stuck. |
| 21:43.25 | TimRiker | heh. so what do you think of debian then? :) |
| 21:44.30 | Zelut | ubuntu would not exist without debian so they have my respect. |
| 21:45.02 | TimRiker | well, in that case, we can get along. :) |
| 21:46.54 | decriptor | weak :) |
| 21:47.03 | decriptor | who needs debian and ubuntu :D |
| 21:47.22 | Zelut | decriptor: not you |
| 21:47.31 | decriptor | :) |
| 21:48.29 | decriptor | just messing with you, I look forward to the next release of ubuntu |
| 21:48.51 | Zelut | decriptor: and I look forward to the next release of suse to suck less ;) |
| 21:48.51 | decriptor | I'd probably got to ubuntu before fedora to tell you the truth :) |
| 21:49.01 | decriptor | Zelut: don't we all |
| 21:49.14 | decriptor | granted 10.3 is tons better than 10.1 or 10.2 |
| 21:49.44 | Zelut | I don't think I've tried 10.3, but you explained why I'd be sick of suse after using 10.1 |
| 21:50.01 | decriptor | I don't think many opensuse guys used 10.1 |
| 21:50.18 | decriptor | I started using suse around the 8 series |
| 21:50.51 | decriptor | it was fine from 8.X to 10.0 and 10.3 is a completely different release almost worthy of 11.0, but they way 11.0 is going it should be really great |
| 21:51.04 | decriptor | they finally redid the installer a little |
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| 22:12.36 | Gate | herlo: hi back? |
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| 22:58.46 | herlo | Gate: woot |
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| 23:21.31 | Zelut | herlo: ping |