IRC log for #utos on 20080123

00:38.30Heartsbaneundertakingyou: no I got to caught up doing stuff with herlo on aaron toponce presentation, and recording with Shaun
00:38.54Heartsbaneundertakingyou: I can later when my eyes are no longer dialated
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01:47.42undertakingyouHeartsbane: that is fine.
01:47.51undertakingyouI just thought that I would ask.
01:47.58undertakingyouherlo: ping
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03:08.12fozzmooherlo? ping?
03:30.49Heartsbanefozzmoo: he will be with you in a sec
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03:47.04Heartsbanefozzmoo: herlo clown is on the phone with his father
03:48.00Heartsbaneundertakingyou: the podcast is posted, writing the wiki then I will start working on Zimbra
03:59.52herlofozzmoo: what?
03:59.58herloundertakingyou: pong
04:00.04herloHeartsbane: suck it
04:01.22Heartsbanepffffffftttttttt whatever
04:02.26herloHeartsbane: AI rocks it!
04:03.21fozzmoohey there herlo.
04:03.26fozzmooSorry - Had to go do scriptures n stuff.
04:03.49fozzmooJust wondered what you thought of my report.
04:04.04fozzmoobbiafm
04:09.50herlofozzmoo: I thought it was awesome.  I want to talke more about it tomorrow night, so you gotta come
04:09.56fozzmooGrrr.
04:09.59fozzmooHow long will it be?
04:10.41fozzmooI probably can't stay longer than an hour.
04:11.27herlofozzmoo: an hour
04:11.53herlowe'll probably have people who could stay longer, but we'll cover other stuff then.
04:12.20herloyou know that we've been planning the meeting for over a month right? Its on our calendar.  And the rest are there too
04:12.26herlofor the next 3 months
04:12.30fozzmoo:)
04:12.56fozzmooAnd my parents planned this Dizzyland trip without checking the UTOS calendar. Shame on them!
04:13.41herlowhen's that?
04:13.52fozzmoowe leave Thursday morning.
04:14.32herloooh, fun.  What time do you leave?
04:14.43fozzmooI think plane leaves at 10
04:15.06herloooh, you big baby, you'll be home in plenty of time to get your 8hrs of sleep
04:15.11herlo:)
04:15.26fozzmoowahh
04:15.30herlolol
04:15.41herloI am such an ass, but its sure fun.
04:16.09herloHeartsbane: I learned it by watching you!
04:16.21Heartsbaneoh
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05:05.21fozzmooherlo: You still lurkin?
05:06.15herloyup
05:06.21fozzmooHey
05:06.32fozzmooI got something to show you in a sec.
05:07.03herlok, i'll be hear
05:07.12fozzmooI'll be see!
05:07.31herlok
05:08.28fozzmoo"k"?
05:09.34herloi'll be hear
05:09.37fozzmooheh
05:09.42herlobut k comes in a close 4th
05:11.56fozzmooCheck this out: http://castro.iodynamics.com/~fozz/herlo-test.avi
05:13.15herlokool!
05:13.38fozzmooYeppers.
05:13.57fozzmooI'll get that finished and up next week- after Dizzyland.
05:14.56herlonice, we need to keep it going throughout the rest of the year in between announcements for thsi year's conference
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05:15.31fozzmooI think it's funny that Jared hasn't even watched his interview yet.
05:15.45fozzmooPersonally, I think it's the best.
05:16.03fozzmooPartially because Asterisk is where it's at, man. :)
05:16.09herloI watched it silently, I guess I'll have to watch it again
05:16.18herlodid you get your asterisk stuff working?
05:16.21fozzmoouh huh.
05:16.33fozzmooDemo'd the prototype for the clients this morning. Everything went great.
05:16.49fozzmooWell, it was kinda funny actually. I recorded all the voice prompts myself.
05:16.55fozzmooand we did the demo with a conference call
05:17.10fozzmooHad to ask them to trust me that I wasn't trying to pull one over on them.
05:18.20herlohaha, funny
05:18.22fozzmooBut, yeah, I've got 4 minutes of your interview done, but I need to re-capture the rest of the source footage.
05:18.35fozzmooI'll try to do that next Tue evening.
05:18.43herlosweet, btw can I get my disk back ?
05:18.51fozzmooYes, I'll bring it tomorrow!
05:18.58herlosweet
05:19.00herlothx
05:19.04fozzmoono prob.
05:19.09fozzmoothank YOU!
05:20.01herloanytime
05:29.10herlofozzmoo: we're excited to see the pis
05:29.24fozzmoopis?
05:29.30herlopics from the meeting you had today
05:29.43fozzmooI... didn't... take any pics....
05:29.49herlowhat!?
05:30.09fozzmooSorry.
05:30.10herloI guess we'll have to go back then !!
05:30.30herlo:) its okay, I thought I told you to, but maybe I didn't
05:31.57herloI reminded you on irc
05:32.12herlobut I'm a slacker and forgot on text
05:38.50fozzmooI thougth about doin it... AFTER I left. :-/
05:38.57fozzmooMaybe I'll run over there tomorrow.
05:39.04fozzmooIt's not too far from KB
05:41.29herloI was thinking of going over there tomorrow too
05:41.33herlowanna do lunch?
05:41.38herlowe could probably pull that off
05:43.39herlofozzmoo: what'dya think?
05:46.02fozzmooCould do.
05:46.18herlofozzmoo: want me to call you, or is there a specific time?
05:46.31fozzmooI usually do lunch at noon.
05:46.44fozzmooSo, maybe we can just chat in IRC in the morning.
05:46.47herlok, that's good probably for me
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16:26.56kkubasi1herlo: morning ;)
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16:54.40herlokkubasi1: hi
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16:56.20kkubasi1herlo: so I found something nifty to look at before our little hacknight
16:56.25kkubasi1http://eikke.com/django-generic-ajax-form-validation/
16:56.34kkubasi1a nifty easy hack
16:58.26herlokkubasi1: that'd be cool
16:58.42kkubasi1yeah, not a 1st teir goal
16:58.56kkubasi1but I stumbled across it on planet gnome
16:58.59herlokkubasi1: although django does pretty good validation right in the form, even if it does require a postback
16:59.07herloits pretty fast even still
16:59.08kkubasi1yeah, all it does is that validation
16:59.15kkubasi1just a little ajaxy
16:59.23herloyeah, I'm not against it...
17:01.03kkubasi1well, in general, how are things?
17:01.07kkubasi1the new place cool?
17:05.36herloyeah, very nice.  Still need to finish putting stuff away, but its pretty much done.  Settling in now during this two week period
17:05.57herlokkubasi1: how bout you?  Enjoying being back in Utah?
17:06.04herlokkubasi1: do you snowboard or ski?
17:06.51kkubasi1herlo: ski
17:07.13kkubasi1def, janx snowboards and we were gonna go up this weekend if I get my stuff back from dc
17:07.15herlocool, we should do it, me too
17:07.18kkubasi1otherwise next weekend
17:07.18kkubasi1def
17:07.31kkubasi1ill warn you, im pretty out of practice
17:07.34herloI'm up for Feb 2
17:07.39kkubasi1I was rockin, like 3 years ago
17:07.47kkubasi1that's a good tenative data
17:07.49kkubasi1date*
17:07.49herlokkubasi1: I only ski the blue runs right now, need to get back in shape first
17:07.56kkubasi1yeah, im similar
17:07.57herloSaturday...
17:08.07kkubasi1I need to build some muscle before hurting myself ;Z)
17:08.07herloyay, or we could go this sunday, but I'm pretty poor until payday
17:08.26kkubasi1I say we plan on the 2nd so I can be sure to have my gear
17:08.27herloI just spent way too much money this weekend...
17:08.30herlok, cool
17:08.32kkubasi1hahaha, I know the feeling
17:09.17kkubasi1that's cool
17:09.21kkubasi1I did until xmas
17:09.23kkubasi1:)
17:11.10herloI'm considering buying but probably will do it at the end of this year
17:11.17herloright now, trying out demos
17:11.29kkubasi1good call
17:11.34kkubasi1that's a ton of fun
17:12.12herloyeah, but a bit more expensive :)
17:16.29kkubasi1hhehe, yeah
17:17.12fozzmooherlo: Hi
17:18.38kkubasi1this sat for hacknight right?
17:18.49herlofozzmoo: hi
17:18.57herlokkubasi1: hi
17:18.58fozzmooherlo: How's it lookin?
17:19.29kkubasi1herlo: hi again....?
17:19.32kkubasi1;)
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17:21.56herlogood
17:22.11herlokkubasi1: sorry, yeah, this saturday
17:22.41kkubasi1haha, that's col
17:22.44Heartsbanekkubasi1: you still coming with sontek and I to lunch
17:22.53Heartsbaneundertakingyou: ping
17:22.55kkubasi1Heartsbane: is that today?
17:23.13Heartsbaneya we are going to shoot for one next week
17:23.16Heartsbanealso
17:23.46kkubasi1hmm, today I have to back out =/
17:23.55Heartsbaneplus I have a whole bunch of short jokes I need test out, and sontek needs a punching bag
17:24.00kkubasi1hahahha
17:24.15kkubasi1sounds good, let me know where the next one will be
17:24.18kkubasi1;)
17:24.20Heartsbanek
17:24.30kkubasi1im quite squishy, makes for a great punching bag
17:24.34Jayce^herlo, just looking at the address for the meeting tonight..  is that in the Stonebrook condos?
17:24.55herloJayce^: no, its in the other one I think...
17:25.00Jayce^heh, k..
17:25.01herlocould be stonebrook
17:25.20Jayce^tan colored ones, or grey ones..  (south or north development)
17:25.26herlotan
17:25.31Jayce^yeah, stonebrook..
17:25.46herlookay, yeah, the other is shadow ridge
17:26.01Jayce^dang man..  our first "house"
17:26.03herlomostly parking
17:26.06kkubasi1may I inquire as to the meeting tonight?
17:26.13kkubasi1who what when where?
17:26.15herlokkubasi1: utosf conference planning meeting
17:26.27kkubasi1ahhhh, yall have fun :)
17:26.39kkubasi1rockin, will do
17:27.06kkubasi1im not seeing anything on utosf.org
17:28.59kkubasi1got it
17:30.33kkubasi1herlo: have you picked a keynote yet/
17:31.21fozzmooherlo: Did you still want to do the thing.... at the place.... at the time.... we talked about?
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17:43.39herlohttp://utos.org/mailman/listinfo/plan
17:43.45herlokkubasi1: nope, working on it
17:43.52herlofozzmoo: yes, 12noon, WVC Campus
17:43.57herlobringing my camera I think
17:44.09fozzmooI have mine.
17:44.14herlok, cool
17:44.27fozzmooIf you want to come to KB, we can go together - one less car to pay parking for.
17:44.31herlofozzmoo: where should I mee tyou
17:44.33herlohehe, okay
17:44.39herloI've got cash too
17:44.51fozzmooIt's only a buck.
17:44.59herlok
17:46.17herlokkubasi1: sign up to the planning list, its useful
17:46.39undertakingyouHeartsbane: pong
17:47.03kkubasi1herlo: I only saw News...
17:52.00undertakingyouherlo: ping
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17:55.32kkubasi2heya all
17:55.34kkubasi2I have returned
17:55.45kkubasi2with more numbers next to my name then ever before
17:55.48kkubasi2with more numbers next to my name then ever before
17:56.09kkubasi2so im readin the top 50 linux quotes of all time
17:56.16kkubasi2and number5 is easily the best
17:56.17kkubasi25. What's this script do?
17:56.17kkubasi2<PROTECTED>
17:56.17kkubasi2Hint for the answer: not everything is computer-oriented. Sometimes you're
17:56.17kkubasi2in a sleeping bag, camping out with your girlfriend.
17:56.17kkubasi2(Contributed by Frans van der Zande.)
18:40.44herloundertakingyou: pong
18:40.57herlokkubasi2: plan is a hidden list we only give to those who are interested
18:41.08kkubasi2awesome
18:41.28herlo<PROTECTED>
18:41.29herloiirc
18:41.39herlofozzmoo: leaving now
18:41.55kkubasik:)
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18:49.49RedHeronhttp://www.freepress.net/news/29744
18:49.57RedHeronAuction begins tomorrow.
18:58.35undertakingyouherlo: can I join the carpooling?
18:59.23undertakingyouFor the meeting I mean.
19:33.43pashdownhttp://le.utah.gov/~2008/bills/hbillint/hb0139.htm
19:39.22Heartsbanepashdown: this isn't a CP80 sponsored bill? I thought this thing was dead?
19:40.00pashdowni see introduced on the 21st
19:40.06pashdownbut hasn't gon through committee
19:40.07pashdowngone
19:43.48Heartsbanepashdown: any idea when it is scheduled to pass thru committee?
19:43.59pashdownno idea, i've signed on for notifications
19:45.07Heartsbanek thx I will pass the word
19:54.38Jayce^Heartsbane, parenting? that's just old fashioned talk.. you can't expect people to actually *do* that anymore..
19:54.53kkubasikhahaha
19:55.13eggyknaplol
19:55.40HeartsbaneJayce^: I guess
19:59.36HeartsbaneJayce^: sorry but I know how pashdown feels about this but I think that the CP80 group found someone to sponsor their bill and I just dug into my archives for a recording I want to share http://p42.org/heartsbane/local-kuer-582842.mp3, I suspect Ralph Yarro of SCO and his band of cohorts will be at the hearing
21:09.19herloundertakingyou: how about you and Heartsbane carpool
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21:49.32herloHeartsbane: yeah, stupid legislators think that's actually going to accomplish their goal
21:49.53herloredbeard2 and I were just discussing this bill and we figure it will take about 20 minutes to circumvent the bill
21:54.07herlofozzmoo: ping
21:54.15fozzmoopong
21:54.36herlofozzmoo: do you have a wiki account at http://collective.utosf.org then?
21:54.45fozzmooLemme check
21:55.06fozzmoonope
21:55.21fozzmooI'll set one up
21:56.00herlocan you?
21:56.05herloyou shouldn't be able to
21:56.27fozzmooThere's a form to create a new account, but only a [Cancel] button.
21:56.42fozzmooSo, yeah, will you create me? :)
21:56.56fozzmooSend info to fozz@iodynamics.com
21:57.25herlok, yeah, I can do that, hold on
22:01.19herloundertakingyou: ping
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22:02.42Gate_Laptopso! anyone tried KDE on win32?
22:03.00fozzmooherlo: Will you let me know when you've created my account?
22:03.10herloyup, working on it onw
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22:16.01herloGate_Laptop: are you sick?
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22:22.34Gate_Laptopherlo: huh?
22:22.54Gate_Laptopherlo: why do you ask?
22:23.19herloGate_Laptop: KDE on Windows?
22:23.24herloWhy?!
22:24.27Gate_Laptopit would be interesting
22:24.37herlono, it wouldn't, it'd be sad
22:25.01Jayce^no, it'd be an improvement...
22:25.39herloIt'd be sad because it would be crippled
22:29.11Gate_Laptopit would be worth playing with. Why not? When windows is the system I never use for work anyway why not try something with true malleability?  I have already seen Gnome on windows (or something that claimed to be Gnome)
22:32.54herlofozzmoo: your account is created
22:33.37Gate_LaptopI actually think it would be fascinating to try to put the NT kernel at the center of a unix tool set and see if the damned thing would work properly.
22:34.01herloGate_Laptop: you crazy man, I wish you luck in such an endeavor
22:34.10herlowhat's malleable?  Windows or KDE?
22:37.20Heartsbaneherlo: why you crashing there tonight?
22:44.16fozzmooherlo: I don't see any e-mail
22:44.26Gate_LaptopKDE is malleable
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22:45.52fozzmooherlo: I don't know what my password (or username) is.
22:46.11Heartsbaneherlo: redbeard2: how would it take 20 minutes?
22:46.27Heartsbaneherlo: hurry up that wiki login
22:51.30herloHeartsbane: set your ssid to the same thing that the key is
22:51.33herlosomething like
22:51.54herlo'thepassphraseisthesame'
22:52.04herloaas the ssid and passphrase would do it
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22:56.06opapo@herlo: would you be interested in a.) finishing the project we started and/or b.) helping out with a similar project?
22:56.27opapoThere might be compensation involved.
22:58.58fozzmooopapo: Did you say compensation?!
22:59.43fozzmooj/k. ;-)
23:02.45Gate_LaptopPlus herlo: aren't you curious? its the opposite of OSX: A free desktop on top of a closed kernel!
23:05.40memilyraeherlo: ping
23:06.42opapofozzmoo: do you know ltsp or how to set up a Terminal server for Windows Apps
23:08.39fozzmooWell, I have set up LTSP in the past for a call center.
23:08.47fozzmooBunch of thin client terminals and a beefy LTSP server.
23:09.01fozzmooWindows Terminal Server? Not so much.
23:09.44opapofozzmoo: I was working with herlo on getting LTSP to work on a PPC box
23:10.02opapousing Ubuntu and/or Edubuntu
23:52.54herloopapo: oh, are you interested in doing that again
23:54.21herlomemilyrae: pong
23:55.01herloGate_Laptop: not really, because the fact that the kernel is closed, I really have little interest.  It seems that you are interested in helping people stay on Winders, and I think that's kind of a broken way to look at it

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