IRC log for #utos on 20080110

00:11.57herlogoozbach: kiwi fruit
00:11.58herlo!!
00:44.50Kemotahaping herlo
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01:24.12herloKemotaha: pong
01:25.55Kemotahaherlo: do you have all the presentations from utosc posted anywhere?
01:39.13herloKemotaha: youtube
01:40.11Kemotahano the slides and stuff
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01:42.09herloKemotaha: they used to be on utosc.org, but I've currently got them hidden
01:42.41herloer utosc.com
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01:56.13herloKemotaha: let me see if I can find them for you
01:57.57herloKemotaha: http://www.utosc.org/downloads/utosc-presenter-slides.tar.bz2
01:57.59herlothere you go
02:03.03Kemotahathx
02:03.08Kemotahawrong site BTW
02:03.12Kemotahautosc.com
02:03.39herloKemotaha: then the link just needs to be changed :)
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07:07.27Gate_Laptopherlo: if thou art conscious: ping
07:09.59herlopong
07:10.02herloGate_Laptop: pong
07:10.21herloBut I will be tomorrow :(
07:11.11Gate_Laptopherlo: hi
07:11.15herloGate_Laptop: hi
07:11.33herloGate_Laptop: you and me need to chat anyway :)
07:11.39Gate_Laptopthe plans for the next year just changed drastically, so I think I will be around for UTOSC 2008
07:11.58Gate_Laptopso if/when you need any assistance I can provide, let me know
07:12.00herloyou weren't going to be before?
07:12.11Gate_LaptopI was putting the odds at 50/50
07:12.22herlowhy for?
07:12.23Gate_Laptopnow I put the odds more like 80/20 for
07:12.31herloaka how come?
07:12.43Gate_LaptopGrad school. I was planning on leaving Utah
07:12.50Gate_Laptopbut those plans have been delayed by a year.
07:12.53herlowhat!?
07:12.54Gate_Laptopmost likely
07:13.02herlowe can't have you leaving the state!
07:13.06herlo:)
07:13.07Gate_Laptop.....
07:13.09Gate_Laptop:)
07:13.22herlowhere were you looking?
07:14.24Gate_LaptopBerkeley, MIT, U of U, U of Texas was edging its way onto the list, etc
07:14.31herloGate_Laptop: so I was thinking I could work with you next week to get the streaming source client working for your next meeting...
07:14.40Gate_LaptopLeast likely <========> most likely admittance
07:14.45herlowow, and you got into which ones?
07:15.06Gate_LaptopI foobar'd the application process completely, so I didn't even apply
07:15.15herloUT is nice btw
07:15.34herloI've been to Austin a few times, great city
07:15.50herlolots of bums, but otherwise very awesome...
07:16.03Gate_LaptopUT *is* nice, but there is a much larger world out there
07:16.14herlono, U of Texas = UT
07:16.20Gate_Laptoplol
07:16.31Gate_Laptopok, I took that as two distinct statements :)
07:16.34herlohehe, Utah is nice too
07:16.56herloI've been on UT's campus
07:16.58Gate_LaptopI was looking at their program and it seemed to be friendly to mine line of thinking
07:17.06herlocool
07:17.24herlohttp://www.geeky-gadgets.com/?p=180 <- competitor to the eeep c
07:18.09herlothis is pretty funny too - http://ib.cruels.net/src/1196827740867.jpg
07:20.31herloGate_Laptop: so you'll be in St George another year, then off to Grad school?
07:20.35herlowill you ever come back?
07:31.04Gate_Laptopmaybe
07:31.44Gate_Laptoplooking a few decades down the road I can see moving back here to teach/retire or something. But for now I wanna go where I can make real money
07:31.44herlo:)
07:31.58Gate_Laptopand Utah (at least saint george) is not the place to do that
07:31.58herloGate_Laptop: you can make real money in Utah
07:32.17herloSt George is growing fast, but I'd agree that the tech is not there
07:32.20Gate_Laptopa programmer is lucky to get 40k a year here
07:32.29Gate_Laptopthere are only 3 programming companies, I think
07:32.34Gate_Laptopa few web developers
07:32.36herlonope, good programmers make 70-80+
07:32.42Gate_Laptopexactly
07:32.50herloand that can be done in Utah no problem
07:32.58Gate_Laptopby *here* i mean SG
07:33.06herloI know
07:33.18herlocome move up to SL and see how a real city works :)
07:33.18Gate_LaptopI hear Novell pays well, and a few others
07:33.39Gate_LaptopI actually would prefer to avoid big cities, but I know I won't be able to :(
07:33.43herloIBM is in SL, and there are several smaller companies who'd be happy to pay you for your expertise
07:33.51Gate_Laptopyep
07:33.51herloSL isn't a big city you know
07:33.58Gate_Laptopheh, it is to me
07:34.00Gate_Laptop:)
07:34.15herlowhat are you going to to in Austin?  Or California?
07:34.42herlowhere you are looking, are large cities, much larger than any Utah
07:34.44herlocity
07:34.59Gate_LaptopI know
07:35.08herlogoofball
07:35.16Gate_Laptoplike I said, I can't avoid it, especially if I want a decent school
07:35.19herlobut I'm just trying to get you to come back so we can hang out
07:35.35herloso I guess I'll just ahve to continue traveling :)
07:35.42Gate_Laptopthere are very few good computer science graduate programs with campuses in the back country :)
07:35.42herloand come for a visit from time to time :)
07:35.55Gate_Laptopdefinitely :)
07:35.57herloYou could go to CU
07:36.02herloits in Boulder Colorado
07:36.10herlohippie town USA
07:36.36herloor look at Southern Oregon University, they have a pretty good CS grad program
07:36.44herloOregon Institute of Technoloty
07:37.19herlos/ot/og/g
07:37.20herloPacific University
07:37.25herloall in Oregon.  I guess you can see where I did my research
07:37.35herloand intended to go to graduate school
07:37.43herloand yet, here I am in Utah :)
07:38.09Gate_Laptophehe
07:38.23Gate_Laptopwhat area were you looking to focus in?
07:39.25herloCS
07:39.27herloProgramming
07:39.32herlo:)
07:39.51herlospecifically distributed programming, but I never got that far
07:39.52Gate_Laptopno more refined focus than that?
07:39.54Gate_Laptopah
07:40.01Gate_Laptopplay with erlang much?
07:40.49herlonope
07:40.59herlothis was about 6 or so years ago
07:41.57Gate_Laptopyou mentioned you were interested in taking compilers, I recall
07:42.11Gate_Laptopthat class was fun :)
07:42.37herlono, I was mentioning that I *had* to take compiler theory/build a compiler to graduate
07:42.45Gate_Laptopoh
07:42.47herlothough I can imagine it being fun
07:43.04herloproblem is, where I had to take it, the professor was an idiot
07:43.09Gate_Laptophahaha
07:43.16herloand so it would've sucked
07:43.29Gate_LaptopI had Bart Stander, who you may/may not have met while you were down here
07:43.36herloHe wrote his own emulator and language
07:43.58herloand we had to build a compiler for it with his proprietary and ever changing specs
07:44.23Gate_Laptopouch
07:44.49Gate_Laptopin mine we had to write an interpreter/compiler for a simplified version of C
07:45.05herloright, that's what *normal* professors expect
07:45.11herlonot ours thouhg.
07:45.22herloit took 2 semesters to write it for a one semester class
07:45.35Gate_Laptopwow
07:45.43herlothen they extended the class to 2 semesters, so he made it difficult to finish it in 3
07:46.04Gate_Laptopmy professor was at a loss for words half way through, when we had completely outpaced any previous class
07:46.08herloso because he had nothing better to do, he'd make it harder
07:46.19Gate_Laptopwe were competing to see who could do enhancements.....
07:46.20herlonice
07:46.28herlosounds like fun
07:46.33Gate_Laptopit was :)
07:46.56herloI think I'll try bed again.  I'm supposed to get up in about 4 hours at this poing
07:46.58herlopoint
07:47.12herlobut before I go
07:47.21herlowhen's the next SU3G meet?
07:47.47herloand do you think you'll have time in the next X time before the meet to work with me to set up the streaming source client?
07:47.47Gate_Laptophaven't decided
07:48.04Gate_Laptopshould be able to
07:48.25Gate_LaptopI have asked the new ACM president to schedule us once a month, I'll make sure she remembers
07:48.29herloits pretty simple, but I need to send you some stuff (xml file) and get you configed.  It should only take a couple hours
07:48.56Gate_Laptophahaha
07:48.57herlocool, have a good night...
07:49.05herlo:)
07:49.22Gate_Laptopnight, I gotta figure out the bazaar source control system by tomorrow morning....
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15:09.08goozbachGate_Laptop: bzr init, bzr commit, bzr branch, bzr revert, bzr log, and bzr help.
15:09.16goozbachthat's all you need to know to get started
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16:29.57herlomemilyrae: hi
16:31.14herloso where is undertakingyou these days?
16:34.14Jayce^thought he was in yesterday
16:36.49Gate_Laptopgoozbach: thanks :) I made the mistake of apt-get install bazaar instead f bzr, but it works now :)
16:37.39goozbachGate_Laptop: baz (bazaar) is the older version
16:37.44goozbachit's kinda a pain to use
16:37.57goozbachbzr (bazaar-NG) is the new hotness
16:38.01Gate_LaptopI noticed, it crashed and wanted me to send a bug report on every other command
16:38.06goozbachand it's REALLY easy to use
16:38.15goozbachI don't think baz is still being maintained
16:38.23Gate_Laptop:) yeah, I am toying with using it to version all my homework for the semester
16:38.48Gate_Laptophave to use it for a class
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16:48.52memilyraeherlo: hi
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17:36.37thaddeusqherlo: ping
18:05.10opapoI have a new project I am working on: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/3446/
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