IRC log for #utos on 20071211

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00:14.41herloundertakingyou: hi
00:16.37undertakingyouherlo: whats up?
00:26.25herloundertakingyou: I'm troubleshooting xen issues at work
00:26.40herlohow 'bout you?
00:27.42undertakingyouJust got home.  And I am off tomorrow.  I am trying to relax.
00:28.01herloahh, cool
00:28.39undertakingyouAnd see if Adobe Photoshop CS2 will work under wine.
00:29.12herlohaha, good luck !
00:29.41undertakingyouIt installed and ran, but locked up after I minimized it.
00:29.55herlowow, that's awesome! and sad :(
00:29.59undertakingyouIt has two things that would be awesome in the gimp
00:30.23undertakingyouFirst, crop and straighted photos
00:30.30undertakingyouSecond, groupable layers
00:30.44undertakingyouand a bonus could be shadows/highlites filter
00:30.52undertakingyouI should submit a feature request.
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00:32.22herloundertakingyou: GIMP has crop
00:32.28herloand groupable layrs
00:32.58herloalso, if you have a look at the scripts IIRc, it can also do shadows and highlights, plus its very scriptable
00:33.11herlothe only think I don't know about is straightening photos
00:33.32undertakingyouherlo: it doesn't have groupable layers.
00:33.48undertakingyouI don't mean link.  I mean a named group
00:35.14undertakingyouwhere they will move together, and any masks applied to the group apply to all subgroups, etc.
00:36.08herloundertakingyou: are you using the latest version?
00:36.49memilyraeherlo: just read the email...I'll ignore the ping :)
00:36.55herlo:)
00:36.59undertakingyouyeah. I have the latest.
00:37.07herloundertakingyou: huh, thought it had that feature
00:37.15undertakingyouAlso, the crop in photoshop is more powerful.
00:37.41herlohow so?
00:37.41undertakingyouAnd the autocrop and straighten in PS makes scanning a lot of pictures so fast.
00:37.59undertakingyouthe crop in photoshop has a perspective setting.
00:38.09undertakingyouSo that you can rotate or skew as you crope
00:38.18undertakingyous/pe/./
00:38.20herlointeresting
00:38.26QContinuumundertakingyou - didn't know about that setting in PS CS2 and going to be a lot of scanning here in the short future
00:38.26herlohaha
00:38.58undertakingyouQContinuum: It is under file => automate => crop and straighten
00:39.50undertakingyouyou put as many as you can fit on the scanner, leave some room around all of them and have none touching the edge.  Hit the crop and straighten, and then presto, it gets all the photos out for you.
00:40.36QContinuumoh dude, you gotta be kidding, that's freakin ultra awesome
00:40.51undertakingyouQContinuum: I use it almost everyday.
00:40.56undertakingyouIt is cool
00:41.46undertakingyouherlo: just did a test.  in the new gimp you still can't select more than one layer, or group them.
00:42.07decriptorundertakingyou: yeah doesn't that suck
00:42.16undertakingyouyes it does.
00:42.34decriptorgimp needs some real competion
00:42.47decriptoror some more support   which ever they are lacking
00:42.51memilyraedecriptor: they've got it...photoshop ;)
00:43.00decriptormemilyrae: lame
00:43.17memilyraedecriptor: but you still love me...they've got competition from me...and I'm all that matters
00:43.20memilyrae:-D
00:43.27decriptoryikes
00:43.34decriptorsetting me up for a fall
00:43.34herlo~lart memilyrae
00:43.34infobottakes a rusty axe and swings it violently, taking memilyrae's head off
00:43.57decriptorthat's a brutal way to settle that
00:44.22herloblame infobot
00:44.42decriptorif adobe made photoshop for linux, I would buy it
00:44.45memilyrae~lart herlo
00:44.46infobotdumps 42 tons of dirt, manure, and fish heads on herlo
00:44.49undertakingyouwow, the great way to handle all marital matters
00:44.52memilyraeherlo: you stink
00:44.54memilyrae:_
00:45.04memilyraeundertakingyou: what? invovle herlo and his lart war?
00:45.05herloI smell just fine...
00:45.12decriptorhe didn't pass out
00:45.24decriptor~lart herlo
00:45.24infobottakes out a seltzer bottle and sprays herlo in the face. You know, one of those old-school seltzer bottles clowns have? Yeah those. Anyway, consider yourself spritzed
00:45.25memilyraedecriptor: he's used to it
00:45.26memilyrae;)
00:45.32decriptorouch
00:45.36undertakingyoumemilyrae: no, just use a rusty axe and behead the other.
00:45.37decriptor~smell herlo
00:45.48herlo~decapitate decriptor
00:45.49infobotACTION cuts of decriptor's head with a halberd that could have been a little bit sharper
00:45.56memilyraeundertakingyou: :) too funny.
00:46.25memilyraeherlo: wow...this is getting violent. I'll talk to you guys later. :)
00:46.34memilyraedecriptor: I'm at Mike and Nicole's if you need anything
00:47.00herlomemilyrae: what do you mean?
00:47.05maquis~lart herlo
00:47.05infobotgives herlo a "free" copy of Windows and then charges double for "Upgrades"
00:47.07herlomemilyrae: this is violent?
00:47.16maquis~whaleslap herlo
00:47.17infobotACTION beats herlo upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh
00:47.24herlo~thump maquis
00:47.25infobotACTION thumps maquis in the ear with a brick!
00:47.32maquisouch!
00:47.39maquis~flog herlo
00:47.40infobotACTION whips herlo with a cat-5 o' nine tails
00:47.49memilyraeherlo: that's right...you didn't notice the violence because you're covered in fish heads and stuff
00:47.50memilyrae:)
00:47.53herlo~simpsons maquis
00:47.54infobotACTION sends maquis chasing a rolling pink donut down the hill screaming, "its still good!, its still good!"
00:48.02herlomemilyrae: could be, have a good night
00:48.08memilyraeherlo: you too. :)
00:48.15memilyraeQContinuum: good idea
00:48.17herlo~lart QContinuum
00:48.17infobot--purges QContinuum
00:48.38QContinuumoops, Jayce^
00:49.54herlo~travolta decriptor and QContinuum
00:49.54infobotACTION replaces decriptor and QContinuum with several craters in a multi-colored display of superior fire power
00:50.08QContinuumpsh
00:50.13QContinuum~jsmith herlo
00:50.17QContinuumoops, that's
00:50.21QContinuum~jattack herlo
00:50.21infobotACTION mirrors a port on herlo 's switch and listens to all the juicy phone calls!
00:50.40herlo~herlo QContinuum
00:50.40infobotACTION pokes QContinuum in they eye with a sharp needle
00:50.59QContinuum~nosepick herlo
00:51.00infobotACTION plucks herlo out of the nose of humanity and wipes him on the couch!
00:51.14herlo~cook QContinuum
00:51.14infobotACTION throws QContinuum in a big pan with veggies inside and cooks QContinuum on 350 for an hour
00:51.24QContinuum~porkchop herlo
00:51.24infobotACTION spits on a porkchop and feeds it to herlo   Eat up!
00:52.02QContinuum~frenchassault herlo
00:52.02infobotACTION summons the french taunter! herlo, I unclog my nose in your direction, sons of a window-dresser! I wave my private parts at your aunties, you heaving lot of second hand electric donkey bottom biters!  Now go away or I shall taunt you a second time-a!
00:52.30QContinuumouch, that's gotta hurt, 2 critical hits in a row
00:53.06QContinuumk, i gotta finish this project or heads will roll
00:54.15herlo~nice QContinuum
00:54.16infobotACTION lowers QContinuum's priority
00:54.22herlo~rootkit QContinuum
00:54.31herlo~kill QContinuum
00:54.31infobotACTION shoots a super-inverse pseudomeson gun at QContinuum
00:54.40decriptor~whois QContinuum
00:54.41QContinuumpsh
00:55.02decriptormemilyrae: on your bag last I saw
00:55.24HeartsbaneI think its Victor
00:57.50herloit is!
00:58.02memilyraedecriptor: did you put them on there after we got home last night?
00:59.08memilyraedecriptor: thanks babe...found them :-D
01:12.30herlonoooo!!!!!
01:13.22herloQContinuum: stupid Xen bug
01:13.33QContinuumoh
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01:51.23sontekherlo: http://iwantsandy.com/
01:52.10herlosontek: where is there a good tutorial for asp.net and monodevelop?
01:53.10herlosontek: that's interesting
01:54.56sontekherlo: you can check: http://www.mono-project.com/ASP.NET
01:55.25herloI swear, I wsa just there looking for exactly that, and its nowhere, tx
01:55.28sontekherlo: I don't use md so I don't have a lot of info on it, other than to get asp.net support you pass --enable-aspnet --enable-aspnetedit on autogen
01:58.33herlookay, I was just figuring I'd try it...
01:58.56sontekwhat are you trying to do?
01:59.01sontekI can still help with the codez =)
02:00.11herlowell, I wanted to see if I could write a simple call for papers app
02:00.17herloin Mono
02:00.30herloand I'm not familiar enough with the aspx stuff to really get started...
02:00.41herlothough MD does give me a basic framework...
02:14.39sontekhttp://lucumr.pocoo.org/cogitations/2007/12/10/we-dont-need-namespaces%e2%80%a6/
02:14.43sontekrofl
02:16.30herloyeah, saw that in the blog.  Great isn't it! :)
04:35.31sontekherlo: you around?
04:36.53herloyeah
04:37.13herloI'm trying (and failing) to get mod_mono to work on my apache server
04:37.29herlosontek: what's up?
04:37.34sontekherlo: I forgot I was making you a call for papers thing, and I'm heading to the gym right now, heres what I had before I got distracted: http://rafb.net/p/GMsxn216.html  and the markup http://rafb.net/p/VlTmvd97.html
04:37.48sontekbut i'll finish it up when I get back
04:37.54sontekbut it should get you started
04:38.03herlok, I'll check it in the morning too
04:38.05herlotx
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09:11.21sontekherlo: ping
09:11.26sontekherlo: I finished up that code for you
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13:48.52herlosontek: tx
13:52.41herlomorning all
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15:15.53herlosontek: ping
15:51.45sontekherlo: sup
15:52.24sontekherlo: http://rafb.net/p/vdNupA18.html
15:52.47sontekherlo: http://rafb.net/p/dLwQHp74.html
15:53.07sontekherlo: http://rafb.net/p/DVUvKj45.html
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15:53.21sontekthats the web.config, default.aspx, and default.aspx.cs
15:53.57sontekherlo: that'll get you a form with first, last, email, title, and description
15:58.24sontekherlo: http://rafb.net/p/aCoQqf96.html  and theres the sql script
15:58.36sontekherlo: I didn't do anything special but its enough to get you started
16:02.16herlosontek: cool
16:02.56herlobtw, I can't seem to compile it because it doesn't know what Byte.FX is
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16:03.48herlorather, where it is
16:05.00sontekherlo: are you in md right now?
16:05.04herloNY
16:05.09sontekmonodevelop*
16:05.12sontek:P
16:05.19herloyes
16:05.26herloI am in it
16:05.51herlomd = Maryland, monodevelop and Medical Doctor :)
16:05.54sontekright click on your project, go to properties
16:06.04sontekor "options"
16:06.16sontekgo to runtime options, change it to mono/.net 2.0
16:06.51sontekthen right click on references, edit references, and choose ByteFX.Data and System.Configuration
16:06.54sontekand then it'll work
16:07.44herloI don't see runtime options
16:09.24herlosontek: when I right click on my project -> options it doesn't show anything like you suggest
16:09.30herlowhere else might I look?
16:10.01herlofound it
16:10.02herlo!
16:10.07sontekw00t
16:11.53herlonice, it works!
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16:12.03sontekyaaay
16:13.07sonteka little top heavy, eh?
16:14.05fozzmooJust tired. :)
16:16.10sontekhaha
16:19.25sontekherlo: that code will do required field validation and regex validation on email
16:20.25herlosontek: tx again.
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17:01.42sontekherlo: np, let me know if you have trouble adding features to it
17:01.53sontekherlo: I couldn't think of much more that it would need either than uploading slides
17:02.20sontekherlo: or if you want to have them create username/password so they can login later and see reviews of their talks and upload slides/notes
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18:25.40opapois there an easy way to do chmod on only directories?
18:26.18eggyknapopapo: find . -type d | xargs chmod
18:26.20opapoI want 755 for directories and leave the permissions of the files the same
18:26.33opapoeggyknap: I will try that
18:26.36opapothanks
18:26.42eggyknapOr more robustly ... find . -type d -print0 | xargs -0 chmod 755
18:27.00eggyknap(which will take care of problems you'll otherwise have if your directories have spaces in the names.
18:27.03eggyknap)
18:31.41opapoeggyknap: very helpful.  You get 5 stars from me
18:32.13eggyknapyw opapo (xargs is a personal favorite)
18:32.59opapoI was trying to use ls -ld ./* instead of find
18:33.04opapofind is prettier
18:37.33herlosontek: maybe, but i was thinking more of making simple widgets for now that we could then review on the admin side...
18:37.39herlosontek: and thanks again...
18:49.25Gate_Laptopherlo: ogg link on the podcast site is dead
18:56.18herloGate_Laptop: which one?
18:57.04herloGate_Laptop: nm, I'll fix them all
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19:45.05TheDruidXpawXHola all. We (TwelveHorses) are hosting the Utah Social Media Developer Garage tonight at our office. http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/StayNAlive/~3/198362756/ I thought I'd pass the word.
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21:04.11herlosontek: ping
21:06.11herlosontek: [Task:File=/home/clints/Projects/CFP/Default.aspx.cs, Line=32, Column=94, Type=Error, Priority=Normal, Description=The name `txtFirstName' does not exist in the current context(CS0103)]
21:06.28herloI get that error when I try to run it now... very strange...
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21:14.08sontekherlo: sup
21:14.25sontekherlo: did you modify the markup?
21:14.51sontekherlo: can you paste me what you have? or have you not changed anything?
21:16.35herlowell, it worked at first, so I am trying to get it back to that state, then I'll paste something in a bit if I can't still get it working
21:16.40herlosontek: tx
21:21.54herlosontek: so I only changed the name of the class from RFP to CFP, otherwise its the same stuff...
21:26.19sontekbut did you change it everywhere? You need to make sure you change the namespace on both default.aspx.cs and default.aspx.designer.cs
21:26.30sontekbecause they are a partial class, so they combine together
21:26.39sontekso if the namespace doesn't match up, neither will the members you are calling
21:26.58herlowhat is designer?
21:28.23herlosontek: is designer the aspx.cs file?
21:29.44sontekthe designer file contains a bunch of auto generated code from the markup (such as generating a private Textbox txtFirstName;  to map to the markup
21:30.02sontekherlo: you should be able to see the file from md
21:30.09herlodo I have that file from you?
21:30.11sontekjust go in there and make sure the namespace has changed to CFP
21:30.57herloI don't have a designer file
21:31.05herloI guess I need to try again :(
21:32.01sontekits there
21:32.05sontekclick "show hidden files"
21:32.37herlono, its not, I removed it last time.  I'm just copying and pasting again :)
21:46.04sontekherlo: why did you remove it?
22:07.58herlosontek: because I thought I didn't need it...
22:09.08herlosontek: obviously, that's not the case :(
22:09.53sontekherlo: they wouldn't put it there if it wasn't needed ;)
22:10.13sontekbut if you get that back it should work just fine
22:10.46herlok, btw, I didn't get a design file from you, which is why I thought I didn't need it.  Was I supposed to get one?
22:15.22sontekmd will create it
22:17.26herloI see
22:17.54herlosontek: so I wanted to know if you cranked out the web code by hand, or if there is a good designer in md for that?
22:21.33sontekI just did it by hand
22:21.38sontekbut md has an editor
22:21.39herlosweet...
22:21.47herlooh, they do? cool.
22:21.56sonteknot sure how good it is, it was buggy as hell last I used it
22:22.03sontekbecause they were using xulrunner
22:22.24sontekbut mhutch has been working on the aspnet stuff for awhile now
22:22.26herlowow, really
22:23.01herlosontek: I'm headed home in about 15 minutes, so I think I'll hack on this for a while tonight...
22:23.11herlothanks for all the help though...
22:23.17herloI'm sure I'll have more questions!
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