| 00:20.08 | undertakingyou | memilyrae: are you still on linux? |
| 00:22.26 | memilyrae | no she |
| 00:22.34 | memilyrae | 's lame and had to use photoshop |
| 00:22.40 | memilyrae | I mean seriously |
| 00:28.15 | undertakingyou | man, that is really dumb. |
| 00:28.28 | undertakingyou | Why doesn't her husband just put it in wine. |
| 00:28.30 | undertakingyou | ??? |
| 00:29.17 | memilyrae | tried, it doesn't support or work with photoshop elements, but I could probably try again |
| 00:31.18 | sontek | herlo: add the reference |
| 00:31.42 | sontek | herlo: you right click and say add referencecs and then choose the gnome sharp one |
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| 02:41.52 | undertakingyou | memilyrae: what do you use photoshop elements for? |
| 03:18.15 | memilyrae | undertakingyou: digital scrapbooking mainly. |
| 03:19.24 | undertakingyou | memilyrae: not that important you should just use linux |
| 03:19.26 | undertakingyou | : |
| 03:19.29 | undertakingyou | :) |
| 03:19.52 | memilyrae | undertakingyou: not that important...just my hobby and my life! ;) |
| 03:20.17 | undertakingyou | memilyrae: I don't know that that increases the value ;) |
| 03:24.15 | memilyrae | undertakingyou: :-P |
| 03:24.57 | undertakingyou | :) |
| 03:24.57 | undertakingyou | I have never used photoshop elements. |
| 03:25.08 | undertakingyou | that is why I ask. Now, I mainly just use curves and blurs where I need to make stuff look good. |
| 03:25.15 | memilyrae | undertakingyou: I like it a lot...I've tried a few different artsy programs like it and it's the one that gives me the most freedom |
| 03:26.03 | memilyrae | undertakingyou: I do a lot...more than just lines and curves. Right now I'm designing a calendar for my mom for Christmas...then I'll do one for Steve's mom |
| 03:46.03 | undertakingyou | memilyrae: my wife did that, but with REAL scrappbooking, last year. It goes over great. |
| 03:52.18 | memilyrae | undertakingyou: I did it the "traditional" (not real) way last year too...took WAY too long! Plus, they were very plain. :-D I can do lots digitally |
| 03:52.44 | undertakingyou | memilyrae: you just need more imagination. |
| 03:52.46 | undertakingyou | :) |
| 03:53.21 | undertakingyou | but, that gives me an idea. |
| 03:53.55 | undertakingyou | Maybe decriptor and mines project should include a gimp plugin that includes element like qualities. |
| 03:56.17 | undertakingyou | memilyrae: can you show me one of these days photoshop elements, and some of these features? |
| 04:06.09 | memilyrae | undertakingyou: sure! I'll start a list. :) It'll be a long list...just a heads up |
| 04:06.25 | memilyrae | undertakingyou: I'll start with the ones I use a lot, and work my way down |
| 04:07.28 | undertakingyou | memilyrae: I would love to see it. I would also like to work on this project. Your husband is in to much school to help |
| 04:28.55 | memilyrae | undertakingyou: yeah...it's true. lots to do...I guess he can start helping you in 1.5+ years :) |
| 04:32.26 | undertakingyou | :) I realize that I sounded like a jerk there. But I really do think it is very important to go to school. |
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| 04:39.59 | memilyrae | undertakingyou: I don't think you sounded like a jerk :) |
| 04:41.18 | memilyrae | undertakingyou: I think he'd like to be able to help and do more but I guess he will some day |
| 04:43.15 | undertakingyou | yeah, he will. I want to learn programing, and I think this project could help, he could too :) |
| 04:43.41 | undertakingyou | either he'll fix all my mistakes, or tell me to stop :) |
| 04:57.39 | memilyrae | undertakingyou: hmmm...I think he'll fix your mistakes...or tell you what's wrong and have you fix them :) How else will you learn? :-D |
| 05:02.41 | undertakingyou | memilyrae: maybe I won't learn. You have to have imagination for programing. I don't have one. |
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| 05:06.33 | undertakingyou | hi decriptor |
| 05:06.42 | decriptor | undertakingyou: evening |
| 05:07.08 | undertakingyou | how you doing? |
| 05:08.46 | decriptor | not too bad |
| 05:08.56 | undertakingyou | ever used wireshark? |
| 05:09.02 | decriptor | yup |
| 05:09.12 | decriptor | not much since I've stopped doing IT stuff |
| 05:09.34 | undertakingyou | ?? |
| 05:10.18 | decriptor | I haven't had a need for it |
| 05:10.35 | undertakingyou | I just wonder why you say you stopped doing IT stuff. |
| 05:10.58 | decriptor | as a profession |
| 05:11.17 | decriptor | I mess with servers on and off for the fun of it, not because I'm getting paid for it |
| 05:11.24 | undertakingyou | hmm . . . what do you want to do when you grow up? |
| 05:11.39 | decriptor | design circuits and write software |
| 05:12.06 | undertakingyou | decriptor: that is why I like to hang out with you. |
| 05:12.18 | decriptor | what every good computer engineering nerd wants LP |
| 05:12.27 | decriptor | ? |
| 05:12.30 | undertakingyou | hoping to gleen some of your knowledge. |
| 05:12.47 | decriptor | high demand, short supply |
| 05:12.50 | decriptor | :D |
| 05:13.25 | decriptor | knowledge that is |
| 05:13.45 | undertakingyou | :) |
| 05:14.28 | undertakingyou | so did your wife tell you my idea to expand our project? |
| 05:23.21 | memilyrae | undertakingyou: I did (just in case he's doing something else right now) |
| 05:27.53 | undertakingyou | memilyrae: thanks, my wife answers for me when I am not around/don't respond too. :) |
| 05:34.40 | memilyrae | undertakingyou: :-D It's what we wives do |
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| 18:26.41 | memilyrae | herlo: ping |
| 18:40.35 | memilyrae | undertakingyou: ping |
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| 21:40.18 | undertakingyou | memilyrae: pong |
| 21:44.54 | memilyrae | undertakingyou: I just resopnded to your email. |
| 21:45.00 | memilyrae | undertakingyou: it's about the banner |
| 21:46.12 | undertakingyou | memilyrae: ok, I'll look. |
| 21:49.19 | undertakingyou | memilyrae: I would love to look at your most current logo. Where can I find it? |
| 21:50.54 | memilyrae | undertakingyou: uh...let me email it |
| 21:51.01 | undertakingyou | memilyrae: ok :) |
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| 21:59.39 | memilyrae | undertakingyou: I sent it to you as a png |
| 22:00.09 | undertakingyou | memilyrae: I just opened it with inkscape and realized that. |
| 22:00.24 | undertakingyou | Of all the fonts that you have had that is my favorite so far. |
| 22:00.49 | undertakingyou | Will 'www.utosf.org' always be off to the right like that? |
| 22:04.38 | herlo | memilyrae: pong |
| 22:04.48 | memilyrae | herlo: hella |
| 22:04.57 | memilyrae | undertakingyou: I'm trying to look at it like it's on a banner |
| 22:05.18 | memilyrae | herlo: we need to discuss banner |
| 22:06.37 | herlo | memilyrae: In Texas, memilyrae k |
| 22:06.59 | memilyrae | herlo: Will Texas give you time to "chat"? |
| 22:07.08 | herlo | hang on, but yeah |
| 22:07.12 | memilyrae | ok |
| 22:08.05 | memilyrae | undertakingyou: so, any thoughts yet on what to put with the logo on the banner? |
| 22:09.04 | herlo | memilyrae: I'm actually flying home in the morning tomorrow... |
| 22:09.34 | herlo | the class was canceled and we weren't told about it... |
| 22:10.04 | memilyrae | herlo: okay. Well, one place I called said they could put a rush on it for $40 more and get it to use by Wednesday night. The other said if I could get it to them tomorrow morning, they could have it done without extra $ for a rush |
| 22:12.50 | herlo | memilyrae: did we decide on a logo? |
| 22:14.57 | memilyrae | not yet but I figured I should see how long each place needed to get it done |
| 22:15.22 | memilyrae | herlo: I was asking undertakingyou his thoughts on a few things since I didn't know when you'd be available |
| 22:15.41 | herlo | memilyrae: sorry, crazy day. Normally, I would have been available... |
| 22:15.59 | memilyrae | herlo: no worries. Life's busy |
| 22:16.23 | herlo | memilyrae: yeah, you can say that again |
| 22:16.41 | memilyrae | herlo: no worries. Life's busy |
| 22:16.42 | memilyrae | :-D |
| 22:17.07 | herlo | I flew here, landed and when I got to my hotel, noticed that I hadn't received my roster (which I usually get on Friday) |
| 22:17.15 | herlo | emailed the training people at 2am |
| 22:18.05 | herlo | headed over to RH in Dallas this morning, found out class was canceled, then recv'd the email saying it was canceled... |
| 22:18.27 | undertakingyou | herlo: is there still class tormorrow. |
| 22:18.45 | herlo | nope, class runs for a week at a time. |
| 22:18.52 | herlo | I'll be home around noon tomorrow |
| 22:19.20 | undertakingyou | nice of them to give you advanced notice. |
| 22:19.25 | memilyrae | herlo: that sucks. Who's paying for the flight you took to get there? |
| 22:19.30 | herlo | RH |
| 22:19.36 | memilyrae | :) |
| 22:20.07 | herlo | it was their fault for not telling us... |
| 22:20.16 | undertakingyou | memilyrae: I was thinking, is there any other logo what will go on the banner at all? |
| 22:23.29 | memilyrae | herlo: that's a good question for you |
| 22:23.47 | memilyrae | herlo: other than the UTOSF logo and website, what else will go on the banner? Thoughts? |
| 22:25.23 | undertakingyou | memilyrae: if there isn't anything else I would say make the mountains bigger and center them. Have the UTOS logo to the left, and the url to the right. |
| 22:25.26 | undertakingyou | herlo: ping |
| 22:27.36 | herlo | our slogan |
| 22:27.39 | herlo | undertakingyou: pong |
| 22:27.40 | memilyrae | undertakingyou: that sounds cool. I'll try that to see how it looks |
| 22:27.46 | memilyrae | herlo: by, for, about... |
| 22:27.47 | memilyrae | ? |
| 22:28.11 | herlo | Helping Open Source Grow in Utah |
| 22:28.43 | memilyrae | herlo: good thing you told me :) |
| 22:29.33 | herlo | memilyrae: the "by, for about" thing is for utosc |
| 22:30.31 | memilyrae | herlo: Got it. :) I guess I just didn't think about there being separate ones. |
| 22:30.32 | undertakingyou | herlo: I wanted to give you an update on the moinmoin situation |
| 22:30.42 | herlo | yuppers |
| 22:30.45 | herlo | undertakingyou: okay, shoot |
| 22:33.12 | undertakingyou | I installed 1.6.0beta1 using 'rpm -U moin*' After that, the thing would just hate life. It would say that a page wasn't there, hit refresh it would say the server was having errors, hit refresh the page would load. I did a 'rpm -e moin.noarch'; then installed from the repos and did a graceful restart for apache. All is well, and we are not running the beta |
| 22:34.44 | herlo | undertakingyou: okay... |
| 22:35.51 | herlo | undertakingyou: we should put it on a test server. I have a sparc box we can use for testing... |
| 22:36.00 | undertakingyou | herlo: hope that is ok |
| 22:36.10 | undertakingyou | ok, we can do that. |
| 22:36.41 | undertakingyou | herlo: I can see all the pdf's from the conference on the server, but how can I make itso that Heartsbane can see it? |
| 22:37.13 | herlo | undertakingyou: huh? |
| 22:37.58 | undertakingyou | herlo: tha presentations from the conference |
| 22:38.18 | undertakingyou | they are in the downloads/presentations/ folder. |
| 22:38.24 | herlo | undertakingyou: they are public... |
| 22:38.44 | undertakingyou | herlo: do I have to make a page with wordpress? |
| 22:38.49 | herlo | no |
| 22:38.56 | herlo | undertakingyou: he can just go there and download them... |
| 22:39.38 | memilyrae | herlo: undertakingyou: just sent you an email |
| 22:39.57 | herlo | memilyrae: k, will look at it |
| 22:40.14 | herlo | undertakingyou: there was at one time the presentations all on one page... |
| 22:40.36 | herlo | and put new ones up... |
| 22:40.50 | undertakingyou | herlo: ok, I figured it out. |
| 22:42.47 | herlo | undertakingyou: sweet |
| 22:44.01 | herlo | undertakingyou: we'll make the sparc box become labs.utosf.org once its up... |
| 22:44.13 | Heartsbane | labs? |
| 22:44.23 | herlo | Heartsbane: its our test environment |
| 22:44.50 | Heartsbane | development server ---> production server, right? |
| 22:45.04 | Heartsbane | or something like that? |
| 22:47.56 | herlo | Heartsbane: right dev server is personal boxes right now, this will be the test env, and then live would be stream.utosf.org for instance |
| 22:48.15 | Heartsbane | Oh |
| 22:48.47 | herlo | dev -> test -> live |
| 23:04.02 | herlo | memilyrae: ping |
| 23:04.24 | undertakingyou | memilyrae: ping |
| 23:04.42 | herlo | memilyrae: send me that file without spaces please |
| 23:05.00 | memilyrae | herlo: sorry...I always forget |
| 23:05.16 | herlo | :) |
| 23:06.34 | undertakingyou | memilyrae: I have some thoughts on that latest one. |
| 23:07.05 | memilyrae | undertakingyou: please tell...creative juices aren't flowing lately |
| 23:07.44 | memilyrae | herlo: sent...with name fixed |
| 23:08.18 | Kemotaha | herlo doesn't know how to use spaces in filenames :P |
| 23:08.40 | memilyrae | Kemotaha: :D |
| 23:08.55 | Kemotaha | herlo: try "\ " |
| 23:09.13 | undertakingyou | memilyrae: I would move the mountains back to right under the circle. I would move the 'helping grow . . . ' up and the URL down. |
| 23:09.45 | memilyrae | undertakingyou: okay...I'll do it and send it |
| 23:10.16 | undertakingyou | memilyrae: to clarify. The 'helping grow . . . ' would be over the URL. |
| 23:10.54 | memilyrae | undertakingyou: I got it. :) You're not that hard to understand. |
| 23:11.24 | undertakingyou | memilyrae: it seems that you are the *only* one that says that. |
| 23:11.51 | memilyrae | undertakingyou: hello? I'm female...I'm better at that sort of thing |
| 23:12.14 | undertakingyou | memilyrae: hello, my wife is female too. |
| 23:12.38 | memilyrae | undertakingyou: Oh...I thought you only meant from the geeks. :) |
| 23:12.43 | memilyrae | undertakingyou: let's try again.. |
| 23:12.51 | memilyrae | undertakingyou: hello? I'm married to decriptor :) |
| 23:12.52 | undertakingyou | memilyrae: I mean *everyone* |
| 23:13.09 | undertakingyou | I am writing a book. How to offend people in ten words or less. |
| 23:13.42 | memilyrae | undertakingyou: I have one... YOU SUCK LOOSER! |
| 23:13.46 | memilyrae | that's 3 words |
| 23:14.02 | memilyrae | herlo: undertakingyou: sent...with things swaped |
| 23:14.08 | memilyrae | or is it swapped? |
| 23:15.02 | Kemotaha | changed :) |
| 23:16.40 | undertakingyou | I llike altered |
| 23:17.29 | memilyrae | herlo: what about you? suggestions? |
| 23:17.30 | undertakingyou | memilyrae: move the url up a little,the 'helping grow . . .' down a little, and snug it to the logo a little more. At least that is what I would do. |
| 23:20.14 | memilyrae | undertakingyou: sent. do you think it needs to be more? |
| 23:20.15 | undertakingyou | memilyrae: you forgot to attach |
| 23:20.26 | undertakingyou | :) |
| 23:20.47 | memilyrae | undertakingyou: shoot. I sent it to clint and sent it before I put your name on. I just forwarded that one...guess it didn't attach |
| 23:21.22 | undertakingyou | memilyrae: you should create a group. That way you just call the group name. |
| 23:21.30 | undertakingyou | and it has everyone for you. |
| 23:22.04 | memilyrae | undertakingyou: I could... |
| 23:22.24 | undertakingyou | but won't??? |
| 23:22.45 | memilyrae | undertakingyou: probably not :) besides...isn't that what "plan" is? |
| 23:23.00 | undertakingyou | memilyrae: you can do whatever you like. :) |
| 23:23.09 | undertakingyou | memilyrae: I do have another thought about the logo |
| 23:23.57 | undertakingyou | the oval shadow, under 'foundation'. What if that was a black, not gray, and blurred a little more? |
| 23:24.04 | undertakingyou | What do you think? |
| 23:24.10 | undertakingyou | and what does herlo think? |
| 23:24.30 | memilyrae | undertakingyou: I can try whatever you'd like. That was the shadow for just the logo...I just kept it. Let's try |
| 23:26.35 | memilyrae | undertakingyou: sent |
| 23:26.37 | memilyrae | oh |
| 23:26.38 | memilyrae | sending |
| 23:26.41 | memilyrae | now sent |
| 23:26.45 | memilyrae | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:34.21 | undertakingyou | memilyrae: I don't know about you, but I like that better. |
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| 23:34.32 | Heartsbane | <@undertakingyou> I am writing a book. How to offend people in ten words or less. |
| 23:34.53 | Heartsbane | Please I can do it in 2 and I don't even need swear anymore |
| 23:35.38 | Heartsbane | if you need some submissions, I would be happy to contribute |
| 23:35.57 | herlo | sorry, had to run an errand |
| 23:36.20 | memilyrae | herlo: I've bombarded you with emails |
| 23:36.43 | memilyrae | undertakingyou: I like it to. Now we just have see what herlo thinks |
| 23:37.16 | Kemotaha | Heartsbane: we don't want to know |
| 23:37.55 | herlo | memilyrae: got them, I like the first one the most, the mountains are on the right hand side... |
| 23:38.02 | herlo | its kinda cool |
| 23:38.20 | Heartsbane | Whoose |
| 23:38.51 | herlo | Heartsbane: memilyrae's |
| 23:39.09 | undertakingyou | Heartsbane: I will have you be my editor. And you can write the forward :) |
| 23:39.58 | memilyrae | herlo: undertakingyou: okay...you like different ones. What do we do? |
| 23:41.26 | herlo | which one does undertakingyou like |
| 23:41.29 | Heartsbane | undertakingyou: oh cool |
| 23:42.09 | memilyrae | herlo: I think so far it's the most recent...what? #4? |
| 23:42.11 | herlo | ~lart Kemotaha |
| 23:42.11 | infobot | gives Kemotaha an extra strength ACME sleeping pill, sending Kemotaha to sleep for 150 years, and awakening to seven strange dwarfs and a large apple |
| 23:42.58 | Heartsbane | Go with the second one |
| 23:43.05 | Heartsbane | its a got a mountain |
| 23:43.14 | Heartsbane | on the right |
| 23:44.09 | memilyrae | Heartsbane: if you'd like to make an informed decision, I can email them to you |
| 23:45.10 | Heartsbane | memilyrae: that is a cool idea, but I think I am just shooting for being disruptive |
| 23:45.35 | memilyrae | Heartsbane: now there's a shocker |
| 23:45.36 | memilyrae | :-D |
| 23:45.40 | Heartsbane | hahaha |
| 23:46.36 | Kemotaha | ~mirror herlo |
| 23:46.37 | infobot | ACTION generates another herlo. Now kemotaha, isn't that doubly painful? |
| 23:46.54 | Kemotaha | ~lance herlo2 |
| 23:47.05 | herlo | ~thump Kemotaha |
| 23:47.06 | infobot | ACTION thumps Kemotaha in the ear with a brick! |
| 23:47.17 | Kemotaha | ~shrink herlo |
| 23:47.24 | memilyrae | herlo: what do you think? Can I let Heartsbane make an informed opinion? |
| 23:47.52 | Kemotaha | ~lart informed opinions |
| 23:47.52 | infobot | whips out a sword and chops informed opinions in half |
| 23:47.57 | herlo | memilyrae: somewhat |
| 23:48.11 | Heartsbane | Don't worry about it |
| 23:48.16 | memilyrae | herlo: you don't mind somewhat or you think he can only make somewhat opinion? |
| 23:48.59 | Heartsbane | herlo: you heading home tonight or tomorrow? |
| 23:49.20 | herlo | Heartsbane: tomorrow morning 8am |
| 23:49.35 | memilyrae | herlo: #4. They're labeled on the email |
| 23:49.53 | Heartsbane | herlo: gimme time to make some food and then I want your approval on something |
| 23:51.13 | memilyrae | herlo: he requested a few changes so each change got a new number |
| 23:51.41 | undertakingyou | sorry I'm difficult :) |
| 23:52.08 | Kemotaha | what's new? |
| 23:52.16 | Kemotaha | ;) |
| 23:53.02 | undertakingyou | Kemotaha: not a thing. |
| 23:53.07 | herlo | memilyrae: okay, looking now |
| 23:58.54 | herlo | to tell you the truth memilyrae, the colors on the right might be better if they were a green or something |
| 23:59.29 | herlo | plus a bolder font, and change the www.utosf.org to http://utosf.org |
| 23:59.29 | memilyrae | herlo: k. I'll try it and send it your way. Do you like green or do you just want me to mess with it? |
| 23:59.55 | herlo | mess with it. I recommend looking at color triads/splits and coming up with something that works well together |