IRC log for #utos on 20071001

01:35.24sontekherlo: I meant to message you in here! I don't like #utah !
01:35.28sontekI like chatting in here
01:35.31sontekits quiet
01:51.34herlosontek: heeh
01:51.46herlosontek: nah, I'll do php
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02:22.29herlodecriptor: !!! hello!
02:22.36decriptorhey
02:23.19sontekomgz
02:23.25sontekits SSHAW
02:23.29decriptor...
02:23.43herlosontek: I might just make that drive up to get those books.  You still willing to meet me in Draper?
02:23.49herlodecriptor: why?
02:24.04decriptora little too much excitement
02:24.17herlowhat!?
02:24.34decriptorherlo
02:24.34decriptor:
02:24.34decriptordecriptor: !!! hello!
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02:24.36herlodecriptor: sontek thought he made you mad earlier so we're just happy to see you...
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02:24.41decriptorhey
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02:25.01decriptorsontek
02:25.01sontekrofl
02:25.03decriptor:
02:25.03herlohaha
02:25.04sontekwhats wrong with your irc
02:25.05decriptorits SSHAW
02:25.07decriptoroh
02:25.09decriptorI was just really tired
02:25.12herlodecriptor: wow!
02:25.13decriptorI was falling asleep at the keyboard
02:25.15decriptorand figure it wasn't safe to sleep and type :P
02:25.20herlodecriptor: I've done that tons!
02:25.47decriptornow I'm watching the red green show
02:25.52herlosontek: so Chris claims my wireless access point sucks, but I've only been disconnected from it a few times..
02:25.58herlohe says it dies regularly
02:26.09herlobut I'm not here a lot, so he could be right
02:26.27sontekherlo: tell him to stop playing WoW
02:26.36sonteki'm watching family guy
02:26.42sontekI'm trying to code, but I love family guy
02:26.48herlosontek: I just told him that
02:27.20sontekherlo: you guys should have your rooms wired anyways!
02:27.20decriptorhave any of you watched the red green show
02:27.42herlosontek: I agree.  Chris is too lazy to buy the patch panel he wants
02:27.50herloso we haven't done it yet...
02:28.27sontekdecriptor: ofcourse!
02:28.43decriptorI have it preset on my dvr
02:28.47herlosontek: I love that show
02:28.53herloespecially the duct tape stuff
02:29.35decriptoroh yeah
02:30.02herloone year at DTI (the last place i worked) we had a duct tape design contest in honor of the red green show
02:30.07decriptorI'm watching the 300th show
02:30.11herlo:)
02:30.34sontekI used to watch it all the time, but I'm from Michigan so its pretty close to reality tv ;P
02:30.48herlosontek: that and the south
02:30.54decriptorthat's sad
02:33.51herlodecriptor: yeah
02:34.20herlosontek: I might just make that drive up to get those books.  You still willing to meet me in Draper?
02:35.17decriptordid you see the one where he made a lawn mower that mowed the lawn by itself and then put itself away
02:35.46herlodecriptor: I've watched like 10 eps total of Red Green
02:36.08decriptorherlo: that's sad
02:36.49herlodecriptor: I only discovered it a couple years back, and since then I've had very little time
02:36.52herloto myself
02:36.56decriptorah
02:37.20herlosontek: I might just make that drive up to get those books.  You still willing to meet me in Draper?
02:37.48decriptor~lart sontek
02:37.48infobotcalls sontek on the phone ... the lights are on but nobody's home
02:37.48herlosontek: otherwise, I probably won't til tomorrow night
02:38.45herlosontek: it appears you get quite a bit for your time with .NET
02:39.58sontekherlo: I have to pick katie up at like 10
02:40.01sontekI can meet then
02:40.04sontekherlo: eh?
02:40.45herlosontek: okay
02:41.47herlosontek: page me when you head up to get Katie and I'll head out...
02:45.49sontekso are you badass at .net now?
02:46.48herlosontek: I will be by tomorrow
03:36.40sontekherlo: ping
03:37.06herlosontek: pong
03:37.23sontekherlo: do you want to use nant or makefiles?
03:37.39herlosontek: I don't care actually.  I don't know nant, but I can learn it easily enough
03:38.34herlohttp://www.w3schools.com/aspnet/aspnet_controls.asp
03:40.11sontekhttp://www.dotnetjunkies.com/quickstart/aspplus/doc/quickstart.aspx
03:40.23sontekThats the site I originally learned asp.net from
03:40.36herlosontek: okay, I'll look there too
03:40.44sontekafter you go through those they have a new version for .net 2.0 http://quickstarts.asp.net/QuickStartv20/aspnet/Default.aspx
03:40.56herlosontek: okay
03:43.31sontekso are you in love yet? =)
03:44.44herlosontek: I always liked the constructs that Java gave me.  So far, ASP.NET has more infuriated and confused me.  I do like the constructs, but the web form things will have to gel a bit more...
03:46.09sontekwell, you'll be happy know know we aren't going to be using webforms =) but its nice to how they work
03:47.04sontekto know*
03:47.19sontekWe are going to be using monorail which uses an httphandler to completely change the lifecycle of the page
03:48.12herlowell, i don't know if that's good or bad at this point. :)
03:53.49herlosontek: this is *much* clearer.  Why didn't you tell me about this before?
03:54.38sontekI was making a man outta ya!
03:54.50sontekI couldn't find the URL before :P
03:56.01herlosontek: I see.  n00b!
04:01.47herlosontek: what I'm planning on doing is rewriting lardwars.com in .NET to get a feel for it.  Then, when I have been doing that for a few days/a week, I'll then switch over to monorail and help with IRIS.
04:02.05herlosontek: we need to have a whiteboard for the databases tomorrow night probably.  You up for it?
04:02.13sontekwhats lardwards
04:02.15sontekwars*
04:02.28herlohttp://lardwars.com/rules.html
04:02.33herlomy site
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04:03.56sontekwhat are the lines on the graph?
04:04.01sontekare they supposed to be colored?
04:04.07herlosontek: they will be when we have more data
04:04.23herlobut we're just about to start a new competition
04:06.14sonteknice
04:06.39sonteki'm leaving to pick up katie right now
04:07.18herlosontek: I'm not coming up though
04:07.27herlosontek: I'll just come get them in the morning
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04:27.12undertakingyouAnyone here ever use tigerdirect for anything?
04:41.24decriptorwhy
04:43.34sontekherlo: lazy
04:43.40sontek~lazy herlo
04:44.45herloundertakingyou: I've bought something from them once.  Uneventful
04:44.50herlosontek: yep
04:49.18sontekI bought from them way back in the day
04:49.22sontekand then god invented newegg
04:54.00undertakingyouI am having a devil of a time with them right now.  Wondered if anyone else had a bad experience.
05:11.40undertakingyouherlo, have you been in the #asterisk room?
05:12.37herloundertakingyou: a couple times.  jsmith is regularly in there
05:12.54herloundertakingyou: why?
05:13.17undertakingyouI ask because I just went in, and jbot said "at least you aren't overtaking me."
05:13.28undertakingyouI thought that you may have set it up
05:13.29herloundertakingyou: that's because the bot is universal
05:13.43herloI didn't write the bot, he gets programmed into particular rooms
05:13.49herlos/he/she/g
05:14.01herlo~infobot
05:14.01infobotherlo: I love abuse, feed me!
05:14.07herlo~dict infobot
05:14.15herlo~jbot
05:14.16infobotjbot is probably a hack!, or known to have only said one useful thing. a tool, or dating the fembots
05:14.23undertakingyouI thought that you have infobot not jbot in here
05:14.26herloundertakingyou: there you go...
05:15.04herlo~blootbot
05:15.05infobotsomebody said blootbot was an IRC bot written in perl descended from infobot. Hosted on SF. Patches welcome, submit on SF or mailto:Tim@Rikers.org, or http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/ , I am a blootbot
05:15.19herloundertakingyou: does that help?
05:17.45undertakingyouhmmm . . .  I think so.  Basically they are all the same bot.
05:20.11herloundertakingyou: right
05:20.22herloundertakingyou: and what you see when you join is called an "onjoin"
05:20.24herloif you say
05:20.27herlo~onjoin undertakingyou
05:20.38herloit should report who set it and a few other things
05:21.03herlo~lart infobot
05:21.03infobotpulls out his louisville slugger and uses herlo's head to break the homerun record
05:21.14herloinfobot: onjoin undertakingyou
05:21.21herlo~onjoin
05:22.38undertakingyouI used the onjoin command in the ubuntu-utah channel, So part of the way it interprets it must be based on what channel you are joining also.
05:22.56undertakingyouI don't know who set this one.  I thought it was you herlo
05:23.02undertakingyouor maybe sontek
05:23.14herlo~onjoin #utos undertakingyou oooh, watch out! He might embalm you!
05:23.14infobotherlo: ok
05:23.19herlo~onjoin undertakingyou
05:23.19infobotonjoin for undertakingyou set by herlo on Sun Sep 30 23:23:14 2007: oooh, watch out! He might embalm you!
05:23.33herloundertakingyou: that's what it should look like when it reports
05:23.54herloundertakingyou: look in #ubuntu-utah
05:23.56undertakingyouhmmm. . . so we don't know who set it before?
05:25.44herloundertakingyou: there might be a history, but its usually not a big deal.  Just change it and move on
05:25.49herlo:)
05:26.03undertakingyouI'm not worried. :/
05:26.24undertakingyouI'm just curios.
05:27.05herlohehe
05:33.26undertakingyouherlo: you are setting up your own asterisk server right?
05:34.27herloundertakingyou: yes, I'm just kinda slow about it.  I have about 3million things I gotta do still before I can.
05:35.03herloundertakingyou: are you available Nov 10 from about 1pm-6pm to help me with the Multi-Distro Release Party at the OSTC?
05:35.20undertakingyouyeah, I hear ya.  I am skimming chapter two of this book. I figure that you have it covered.
05:35.22undertakingyouLet me see
05:36.37undertakingyouherlo: If I keep my current schedule I should work 8:00 to 4:30 that day.  I may be able to get off early though.
05:36.43undertakingyouI will have to see
05:48.54herloundertakingyou: okay, no worries, just looking for helpers
05:49.37undertakingyouI would like to.  Saturdays are our busy day though.  I will look into it as we get closer though.
05:50.37herloundertakingyou: I don't wanna make major changes to your lifestyle.  You do what you can.  I'd love to have you, but its not a requirement by any means :)
05:57.04sontekherlo: ping
05:57.21undertakingyouherlo: It isn't a lifestyle change.  I like open source and what it stands for and how it interacts with the community.  It is in line with a lot of the things I personally feel.  I want to help where I can as long as it doesn't interfere with the two top priorities in my life.
05:57.27sontekherlo: so to install a prc on the treo, I just copy it to me disk?
05:57.33sonteks/disk/card/
05:57.39sonteks/me/my/
05:57.45sontekwoot, there we go
05:57.47sontekenglish!
05:58.36undertakingyou:)
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15:15.41sontekdecriptor: the only downside of Thursday is that its the same day as BYU UUG
15:15.49decriptoraaah
15:16.34herloeek!
15:17.01sontekif we do it Friday we avoid that
15:17.03sontek:D
15:19.12decriptorwe could, but that would be lame.... :(
15:19.14decriptor:/
15:20.29herloYou could do it on Saturday
15:20.42herlothe 10th of November :)
15:21.50sontekherlo: we want a SUSE release party, not a fedora release party
15:22.30sontekdecriptor: i'm down for doing in on Thursday, just not sure how many SUSE users will go to UUG instead
15:22.35sontekdecriptor: its a pretty cool topic
15:22.49decriptorwhat is the topic
15:23.26herloopenLDAP
15:23.38herlosontek: when did you say I could start at Orchid?
15:23.52decriptorcrap
15:23.56decriptorI'd want to go to tht
15:24.03herlodecriptor: exactly
15:24.16decriptorits probably from 7-9
15:24.18decriptorright
15:24.25herlosomething like that
15:24.31herlodecriptor: I'll be streaming it
15:24.39sontekstarts at 7:30
15:25.06decriptorI wonder if we can get away with starting the launch party around 6 - 6
15:25.08decriptor:3-
15:25.11decriptor6:30
15:25.43sontekhalf our launch party? :P
15:25.53herlodecriptor: do you think its going to only go for 30mins?
15:25.57sontekor start it in the room BYU UUG is at, and then stop for the talk
15:25.59decriptornooo
15:26.05decriptorstart at 6/6:30
15:26.16decriptorthat might work
15:26.17herlodecriptor: and end it when?
15:26.21decriptorwhen
15:26.23decriptorI say so :P
15:26.34sontekWe should talk to BYU and see if we can get the room early, and ofcourse talk with Peter to see if hes ok with it
15:26.40sontekand then we go do the release party before and after
15:26.52decriptorthat might work
15:26.53sontekbut the room isn't great for installfests, its theatre style
15:27.03decriptorpatch cables
15:27.18sontekyeah, but a monitor can't fit on the desks
15:27.19decriptorjust really long ones :D
15:27.20sontekso only laptops
15:27.24decriptortrue
15:27.26decriptor:(
15:33.25thaddeusqherlo: is there something wrong with www.gurulabs.com? I can't seem to get to it this morning.
15:33.36herlothaddeusq: everything seems down...
15:33.40herlomail too.
15:35.33sontekoh noess
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15:52.22herlohehe
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17:29.16herloundertakingyou: welcome
17:29.34undertakingyouherlo: Thanks, how are ya?
17:33.43herloundertakingyou: well
17:33.56undertakingyougood
17:34.08herlosontek: ping
17:34.49herlosontek: nm
17:35.58sontekherlo: hiii
17:38.44herlosontek: so I'm trying to run a report for Novell with the number of actual attendees...
17:39.32herlobut I can't get the reports to do that...
17:42.17sontekherlo: it says on the dashboard
17:43.25sontekherlo: do you know of a good app for reading pdfs on treo?
17:43.25herlosontek: I need a report I can send to novell
17:43.41herlosontek: yes, there's a good one, can't remember what it is off-hand
17:44.17herlosontek: also, that only shows the registered, not who actually attended
17:44.28herlosontek: though I know I can change this
17:44.58herloand I need names
17:45.59sontekherlo: you can run the 'attendee summaries'
17:46.03sontekthat'll get you numbers
17:46.27sontekif you want names just run any of the reports and sort it by attended
17:46.34sontekand export it to csv
17:54.00herlosontek: tried that, doesn't give me the *actual* attendees
17:54.05herloit gives me other stuff...
17:54.17herlosontek: looking again
17:56.00herlosontek: figured it out, thx
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18:12.05sontekherlo: yay!
18:12.25sontekherlo:  you are so smart :D
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18:40.04herlosontek: I feel dumb!
18:52.48decriptorsontek:
18:53.02decriptordo we want to do it at 6
18:53.10decriptorthen there might be time for the uug
18:53.21decriptoror at least those that want to go can and those that want to stay can
18:56.45sontekI'm down for whatever, do we know if we can do it at novell yet?
18:57.14sontekI was gonna announce it on my blog when we got a location finalized
19:00.22sontekwe can do it at my office but thats in SLC, so UUG would be out for anyone who wanted it
19:01.27Jayce^herlo, looks like I might bag out of the nationals, which means wife and I can come to the dinner
19:06.02decriptorJayce^: then you have to vote
19:06.17undertakingyouI think he did in portugese
19:06.23decriptornot that at this point its going to count
19:06.26decriptoroh yeah
19:06.29decriptorthat's right
19:06.58decriptorif only he had used a real language :P
19:07.22undertakingyoujust from the language I *think* he meant a Brazilian place
19:07.30undertakingyouI have no idea though
19:07.46decriptorjust picking on him like I do my bro-in-law
19:09.40decriptorundertakingyou: I told my wife about it
19:10.16undertakingyouwhat did she say?
19:10.16decriptorshe thought it was a cool idea
19:10.50undertakingyoudecriptor: I guess with her blessing it is official then.
19:10.57decriptor:P
19:11.01decriptorundertakingyou: if that's what it takes
19:11.11undertakingyou:)
19:11.17decriptorit would be cool to have a proototype by next year
19:11.23decriptorwe still need a name for it
19:11.39undertakingyouand to decide what language we want to do it in.
19:12.03decriptorI vote for c++
19:12.30undertakingyouI will have to learn whatever you choose so C++ it is.
19:12.31decriptorsince you know php it won't be that bad learning c++
19:13.31undertakingyouright.  I still will find a book and read that though.
19:13.51herloJayce^: okay, will you let me know for sure by email?
19:14.03decriptorundertakingyou: I might have one that you can borrow
19:14.38undertakingyoudecriptor: what is it called.  If I have my own I can mark it up and won't feel bad
19:14.54decriptorI have several
19:15.00decriptorI might have one that you can keep
19:15.06decriptorI'll have to see what I have
19:15.19undertakingyouk
19:15.37decriptorthere is tons of documentation on the internet too
19:16.43undertakingyouI think that is should be easy enough for me to pick up. <knock on wood>
19:16.51decriptorshouldn't be too bad
19:16.56decriptorI'll be back in a minute
19:21.00herlodecriptor: can you help with the UTOS Multi-Distro Release party on November 10?
19:21.10herloI know sontek can...
19:21.39herloJayce^: I also have something you might be interested in regarding geeks and paintball...
19:21.51Jayce^oh yeah?
19:23.04herloJayce^: yeah.
19:23.50herloso this guy from TierFour (who's also interested in helping provide bandwidth for streaming servers) wants to sponsor the paint for a paintball game (probably up in Payson Canyon)
19:24.22Jayce^full scenario?  wait the guy lars had talk to me?
19:24.24herlowe'd need to get a couple people to rent the guns for us and provide sponsors.  We're thinking near the end of October, probably the 27th
19:24.35herloJayce^: maybe, Eric is his name
19:24.43Jayce^yeah, was talking to him
19:24.45herloLars has already talked with you?
19:24.49decriptorherlo: there is a chance that I can't
19:24.55decriptorbut would love to if I can
19:24.56Jayce^should probably get him in on our scenario at camp williams
19:24.59herlodecriptor: okay
19:25.09decriptormy in laws are coming into town that day or the next one I can't remember
19:25.09Jayce^early on he was asking about field locations
19:25.21herloJayce^: oh, I think that may be unrelated
19:25.32Jayce^he was looking for scenario locations
19:25.40herloJayce^: he's also an avid paintballer himself
19:25.57Jayce^but if you want a big turnout, something like the battlefield utah will be the last big one of the year
19:26.21herlowell, I'm thinking more along the lines of something simple where people can come and just enjoy themselves.
19:28.06herloI don't know how scenario paintball works really
19:28.13Jayce^:)
19:28.21Jayce^yeah, a good sized group makes a big difference
19:28.25herloJayce^: the idea he had was to get together and have a big paintball party...
19:28.30Jayce^otherwise people get bored, wandering
19:28.55herlopaint would be provided, and people would just have to rent the guns, which would be provided on-site.  We'd want them to sign up somehow though probably
19:29.01herlojust so we have an estimated count
19:29.06Jayce^the other option is we are working on a contact on possibly getting a corn maize for paitnball, after halloween, before it's leveled
19:29.29Jayce^well, if you are pitching the community, you have to factor those bringing their own
19:29.53herloright
19:30.07herloJayce^: that'd be fun, a corn maze
19:33.01herloJayce^: I think that'd be perfect.  Let me know how I can help.
19:34.45decriptorherlo: I paid for the food and got a receipt
19:35.57herlodecriptor: huh?
19:36.10herlodecriptor: oh, cool!
19:36.11decriptorherlo: catering for the conference
19:36.31herlodecriptor: thought you were talking about some food that you bought and was wondering why you were telling me
19:37.20decriptorherlo: I did buy food, but assumed that you it wasn't something that one normally shares
19:37.33herloright
19:37.45herlodecriptor: that's why I was confused.  Thanks for paying the caterers...
19:40.21decriptoryup
19:40.28decriptorthey were happy to be paid
19:40.43decriptorjust wish I got around to it sooner,  last week just wasn't that great a week
19:46.14herlodecriptor: we all have things that slow us down, no worries.
19:46.33decriptorbtw  monodevelop 1.0 beta just got released
19:46.39decriptorit looks really cool
19:46.41herlo~lart decriptor
19:46.41infobotexecutes killall -TERM decriptor
19:46.46decriptorhttp://www.monodevelop.com/Release_notes_for_MonoDevelop_1.0_Beta_1
19:46.53herlodecriptor: vim is the only tool for me
19:47.28decriptorit has some new ASP.NET stuff in it :P
19:49.49herlodecriptor: you crack me up
19:50.05decriptorit was talking about web.config and reference stuff
19:50.23decriptorI like shiny new toys whether I'm going to use it or not
19:50.24herlodecriptor: cool.  I think I'm coming along nicely.  sontek is going to lend me his books tonight
19:50.31decriptorcool
19:57.47herlodecriptor: I'm working on setting up icecast on utos.org today, I have to get remote recording working as well.  After that, I plan to work on getting web based irc working.  Then, I'll announce the UTOS Multi-Distro Release Party!
19:57.57sontekhes not here!
19:58.09herlosontek: I noticed, but had already started writing it
19:58.48herlooh, and I'm gonna set up some maildrop rules
19:58.59sontekyour mom is a maildrop
19:59.10herlosontek: could be, but so is yours
19:59.33sontek:(
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20:07.36herloundertakingyou: do you have time right now to set up an icecast server?
20:08.05undertakingyouherlo: do you mean right this second or today?
20:09.53herloundertakingyou: soon
20:10.01herloundertakingyou: today, like in the next hour or two maybe...
20:10.19undertakingyouI work till 4:30.  I could when I get home.
20:10.41herloundertakingyou: was thinking I'd help you familiarize yourself with our server.  I could probably do it at 4:30
20:10.52herloundertakingyou: I'll have about an hour or so then, sound good?
20:11.04undertakingyouOK,
20:11.12undertakingyouSounds fine
20:11.31herloundertakingyou: just ping me when you are available.
20:11.40undertakingyouok, I will.
20:29.19GateWOOOOHOOOOO!
20:29.29GateUNIVERSITY OF UTAH: SAINT GEORGE HERE WE COME!
20:30.23undertakingyouGate: so they are for sure buying dixie?
20:44.53mheathO.o
20:45.04herloZelut: ping
20:45.11mheathSee, I have to wonder why a college would spend money on something like buying anohter college
20:45.23mheathAs opposed to, you know, improving the level of their own education with that money?
20:47.51herlomheath: but that's exactly what they're doing.  Think of it like the Univ of Cal (Berkeley, Davis, Long Beach, etc).
20:48.29herloUofU is working to have more remote sites.  I think they were mentioning that they were going after UVSC and SUU as well...
20:49.08mheathHmm.
20:52.59Zelutherlo: pong
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20:55.34herloZelut: you available to give a 5-10 minute presentation on the cool new things on Ubuntu for the Multi-Distro release party?
20:55.53Zelutherlo: assuming I'm in town, sure :)
20:56.06herloZelut: its a Saturday
20:56.36herloZelut: cool, it'll be at the OSTC this time.  I hope to do one in SL for Fedora 9 and Hardy Heron...
20:56.50herloand maybe OpenSUSE 10.4 will be on a similar schedule, who knows.
20:57.05ZelutI recently installed 10.2 for testing in VM.
20:57.22ZelutFedora is actually the only thing I'm *not* running, because it wont install in VMware Server
20:57.32herloZelut: interesting.
20:57.47herloZelut: I'll have to play with VMWare server again.  It works fine in KVM though...
20:58.20ZelutI need to figure out how to do KVM on my machine
20:59.35Zelutso far I prefer VMware Server and xen simply for the network abilities ootb
20:59.43Zeluthaving to manually setup bridging and all that is a pain
21:05.28herloZelut: weird, I guess because I use virt-manager all of the networking setup is done for me
21:05.56herloI know that kqemu can do it.
21:12.24sontekI like vmware-server becauses its the only one thats cross platform
21:14.48decriptorZelut: there is a really good XEN networking script out there
21:15.25decriptor10.3 is shipping with it, let me see if I can find it on the internet thought
21:15.26decriptorthoug
21:17.29decriptorhis website is down
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21:25.26undertakingyouherlo: ping
21:34.13herloundertakingyou: pong
21:34.32undertakingyouanytime you want to work on that server
21:34.54herloundertakingyou: you're available now?
21:35.06herloundertakingyou: for how long?  I just got lunch and I'll be done in about 20 minutes
21:35.14undertakingyouI talked my boss into letting me go home early.
21:35.18undertakingyouOK
21:35.50herlosweet!
21:41.47sontekdecriptor: ping
21:41.55sontekdecriptor: so are we doing it at novell?
21:42.31decriptormaybe
21:42.44decriptorif I can get a hold of Shauna to see if we can use the OSTC
21:43.03decriptorI think that would be the easiest, but there is interest from Novell to help host it
21:44.18sontekwell, they posted on SUSE News that they were looking for a 'community leader'  so I think they'd be willing to let us meet
21:44.27sontekbut you should get it finalized so we can let everyone know
21:45.03decriptorsontek: where did you see it
21:48.17sontekhttp://news.opensuse.org/?p=397
21:52.14herlodecriptor: just email her, she'll set it up
21:52.21decriptorok
21:52.33decriptorI tried to call earlier and left a message
21:52.43herloyeah, that doesn't work much
21:52.51herloI'm going down there on Thursday afternoon...
21:54.53decriptorherlo: cool, I just sent off an email
21:55.15decriptorhow hard is it to get a mini bootable linux on a usb thumb drive
21:55.44decriptorall I need it to do is be able to boot and send/receive information
21:55.47herlodecriptor: depends on what you want
21:56.05decriptorjust want it to send back specs and maybe kick off an install
21:56.13herloare you talking pre-installer tool or full distro
21:56.17decriptorso almost like a net install image
21:56.21decriptorpre install
21:56.32herlodecriptor: those are already available.  Ask sontek about the suse one, but he did that
21:56.46decriptorsomething that could maybe report back to a central server with information and that server could then dictate the install info back
21:57.12herlodecriptor: the easiest thing is to use pxe and a network card that supports it
21:57.32herlodecriptor: dhcp, pxe and nfs is all you need.  Well, and the install media of course.
21:57.53herloUbuntu is next, then SUSE the weekend after that...
21:59.20decriptornot the issue
21:59.31decriptorwe have dozens of images and media on our PXE server
21:59.38decriptorI wan to automate stuff
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22:02.32Gat1ugh, left my laptop on...
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22:05.58herloundertakingyou: here
22:06.06herloundertakingyou: do you have a login to utosc.org?
22:06.17undertakingyouyeah.
22:06.30herlodecriptor: you need to do a autoyast install then
22:06.44herloundertakingyou: k, login
22:07.35undertakingyouI am ssh'd in
22:07.37Gateundertakingyou: they aren't buying us. its an affiliation deal
22:07.52herloundertakingyou: k
22:08.07decriptorherlo: sadly not that simple
22:08.17undertakingyouGate: My wife works at the U and she said they are just doing some classes there right now or something.
22:08.19herloundertakingyou: su -
22:08.21decriptor100s of installs of all different types of configurations
22:08.22Gatethey get prime geological and biological research territory and we get degrees and the U of U name
22:08.33herlodecriptor: I guess I'm not understanding your problem then...
22:08.43undertakingyouherlo: k
22:08.47Gateundertakingyou: they are already doing Extensions, this is more
22:09.03undertakingyouGate: I see.
22:09.09Gatethis means we get degrees approved by the U of U as opposed to the Regents
22:09.23GateRegents don't like us all that much
22:09.33GateU of U is pretty friendly
22:10.01herloundertakingyou: did it work?
22:10.34Gateherlo: was the next meeting on the 20th or 27th?
22:10.41herloGate: for?
22:10.58GateUTOS, you mentioned there was a meeting one of those saturdays
22:11.00undertakingyouI guess I'm not sure how to do a autoyast install
22:11.20herloGate: probably the 27th.  We've not discussed it yet.  It'll be soon though...
22:11.36herloGate: I'll announce it to all the UG leadership.
22:11.39Gatecool, I might be able to pop up there if its the 27th
22:12.02herloGate: nice
22:12.34Gateok. off to work meeting.
22:12.43herloadios
22:12.48herloundertakingyou: did it work?
22:13.10undertakingyouherlo: I am logged in as SU, yes
22:13.18herloundertakingyou: k
22:19.11decriptorherlo: no worries
22:19.17decriptorits not a clear cut problem
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23:12.37mheathherlo! Why'd you have to choose November 10th for the releases party? :(
23:13.33herlomheath: why not?
23:13.57mheathherlo: I've absolutely love to go to that, but am marching in a veterans day parade that morning :(
23:14.12mheathHmm, 1pm to 5pm though..I'd be missing the first bit but could probably make it to the latter.
23:14.38mheathherlo: Great idea, though, by the way. Should be a good time.
23:14.58herlomheath: come one, come all.  I just learned that OpenBSD comes out Nov 1
23:15.15mheathAh, the Quad-Release Party :P
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23:38.31Gatehahahahaha.
23:38.38GateI think I <3 Xmission
23:40.05GateHeartsbane: talked to the guy you recommended, I should be getting DSL on Friday if Qwest doesn't continue to botch the deal.
23:40.21HeartsbaneGate: cool
23:40.38HeartsbaneGate: who did you talk to Richard or Roger
23:41.13herlomheath: That's why I said Multi-Release.  I can't keep track of them all :)
23:41.27GateRichard
23:42.17HeartsbaneGate: might I suggest as a customer if you need help to remember their 24/7 IRC support
23:42.25GateI then had to go to Qwest to pay a deposit and such, they were telling me I would be charged *twice* what Xmission told me, I argued and they argued back
23:42.59Gate:) Xmission told me that all I had to do was find someone at Qwest who knew what they were talking about
23:43.20Heartsbanethat could take forever
23:43.28Gatethat was the implication.
23:43.49Gateherlo: did I catch a November 10 date?
23:44.11herloGate: yup
23:44.32Gateawesome, hopefully I can make it :)
23:44.43herloGate: http://utos.org
23:44.49herloGate: http://utosf.org
23:45.38HeartsbaneGate: whatever happened with your GL 275 course?
23:46.59GateI never emailed them about it :( I haven't had time to be concerned about it

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