| 00:08.10 | Hearts|laptop | :) |
| 00:11.38 | herlo | Hearts|laptop: you like? |
| 00:12.39 | sontek | I'll come next year! |
| 00:13.03 | herlo | sontek: oh good! |
| 00:13.05 | sontek | but I think we should have GL trouble shooting with a dedicated room so they can go throughout the whole conference |
| 00:13.13 | sontek | that was a lot of fun :P |
| 00:13.47 | herlo | sontek: I agree, and that's what we'll do |
| 00:14.10 | Hearts|laptop | herlo: yes I did there is very little I would change, I am at a lack of words for a comment |
| 00:14.45 | herlo | :) well tell me good things too then |
| 00:15.35 | Hearts|laptop | herlo: well herlo there is a lot in my head... I am still processing and reading |
| 00:16.12 | herlo | ~w00t |
| 00:16.13 | infobot | w00t!!! |
| 00:17.31 | Hearts|laptop | herlo: there are only 2 things I would change, and one was due to a time constraint |
| 00:17.41 | herlo | yeah |
| 00:18.28 | Hearts|laptop | it was interesting to say that sontek says he learned more from OSCon and he was one of the staff |
| 00:19.28 | herlo | I know! |
| 00:20.34 | jsmith | herlo: Go home! |
| 00:20.35 | Hearts|laptop | herlo: you flying back so soon |
| 00:20.56 | Hearts|laptop | Hey Jared |
| 00:21.31 | herlo | Hearts|laptop: home is where the hotel is |
| 00:21.35 | herlo | jsmith: I am! |
| 00:24.04 | mheath | Hmm. |
| 00:32.16 | mheath | cd content |
| 00:32.31 | mheath | oops, wrong window. Hmm. |
| 00:34.17 | Hearts|laptop | herlo: whoops I mean learned more from UTOS than from OSCon but I guess you get the point |
| 00:34.55 | sontek | I can't fathom how much the actual attendees learned from the conference |
| 00:35.10 | sontek | I didn't get to sit in on a presentation for the full time |
| 00:35.29 | Hearts|laptop | not one? |
| 00:35.34 | sontek | nope |
| 00:35.59 | sontek | next year we are hoping for more volunteers so we can balance it a bit |
| 00:39.39 | Hearts|laptop | I learned from Jared Smith that if I do Asterisk I would prefer to do EACs, maybe through IPTables |
| 00:40.44 | mheath | What kind of telephone interface does one need tow ork with asterisk well? |
| 01:02.05 | Hearts|laptop | meh who knows I am still reading |
| 01:03.14 | mheath | Heh |
| 01:14.59 | peno | Hearts|laptop: you mean IAX. |
| 01:16.07 | peno | mheath: it depends on what type of phone line you have, whether you need FXO, FXS, etc. |
| 01:16.35 | mheath | Uh, thats way beyond me :P |
| 01:16.45 | peno | :) |
| 01:17.19 | peno | asterisk can do that. |
| 01:18.01 | mheath | Could I even do something like...text to speech for remote access to e-mail, and that kind of thing? :P |
| 01:18.29 | peno | possible. I don't know all of the features of what asterisk *can* do. |
| 01:19.26 | Hearts|laptop | peno: yes sorry |
| 01:20.01 | peno | Hearts|laptop: np. just clarifying, since EAC is something different. |
| 01:20.33 | Hearts|laptop | k |
| 01:52.41 | Hearts|laptop | herlo: ping |
| 02:43.06 | tensai | mheath: yes, asterisk can do that. feel free to join us on #utaug for all your asterisk questions. |
| 02:43.49 | mheath | tensai: Cool, I didn't know that channel existed. Thanks! |
| 02:44.15 | tensai | they even have meatspace meetings, or so I hear |
| 02:44.37 | mheath | Heh. |
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| 03:42.52 | decripto1 | Jayce^: ping |
| 03:44.21 | ping | ping: ping |
| 03:44.24 | ping | hahahaha |
| 03:45.40 | ping | ping: ACK |
| 03:45.43 | ping | :P |
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| 04:26.58 | decriptor_ | ping: ping |
| 04:27.28 | decriptor_ | wow this channel is nearly as big as #utah |
| 04:32.13 | decriptor_ | man there are more people in this channel, yet it remains fairly dead |
| 04:42.57 | undertakingyou | not that bad, whats up man? |
| 04:43.17 | decriptor_ | hey |
| 04:43.22 | decriptor_ | guess wat |
| 04:43.23 | decriptor_ | what |
| 04:45.32 | undertakingyou | what? |
| 04:46.28 | decriptor_ | I got a mac |
| 04:46.49 | herlo | decriptor_: you are so funny |
| 04:46.50 | undertakingyou | which one? |
| 04:47.04 | decriptor_ | macbook pro |
| 04:47.09 | decriptor_ | just the entry one |
| 04:47.16 | undertakingyou | nice, that is the one that I want |
| 04:47.32 | decriptor_ | :D |
| 04:47.33 | undertakingyou | My boss said that he would buy it for me but hasn't yet |
| 04:47.39 | decriptor_ | college loans |
| 04:47.43 | decriptor_ | gotta love them |
| 04:48.26 | decriptor_ | this is my first mac and laptop since my p3 laptop |
| 04:48.30 | herlo | decriptor_: have you used your mac to upload the presentations yet? |
| 04:48.51 | decriptor_ | no I uploaded them with my windows box |
| 04:49.00 | undertakingyou | lol |
| 04:49.00 | herlo | decriptor_: cool |
| 04:49.27 | decriptor_ | I started to rename/remove dups/etc |
| 04:49.37 | decriptor_ | just need to finish that other my calc test |
| 04:50.28 | undertakingyou | herlo: have you seen the ubuntu-utah mail list letter that Zelut started? |
| 04:50.37 | undertakingyou | about the conference |
| 04:50.41 | herlo | decriptor_: good to hear. will you announce it too? |
| 04:50.53 | herlo | undertakingyou: the one asking about what we can do to improve? |
| 04:50.55 | decriptor_ | absolutely |
| 04:51.06 | herlo | decriptor_: I'll give you blog rights on utos.org then |
| 04:51.13 | undertakingyou | herlo: yeah, |
| 04:51.15 | decriptor_ | cool |
| 04:52.21 | herlo | undertakingyou: yeah, has it gotten bigger? |
| 04:52.55 | undertakingyou | I made a post on it. Bryan Petty had some concerns. |
| 04:54.46 | decriptor_ | Supaplex: sorry that silly thing school is getting in the way |
| 04:54.59 | decriptor_ | there are more, but also not all of the presenters gave me slide |
| 04:54.59 | decriptor_ | s |
| 04:55.12 | Supaplex | meh =-/ ok |
| 04:55.43 | decriptor_ | let it slide this time .... :D |
| 04:56.47 | Supaplex | ;) |
| 04:56.55 | decriptor_ | lol |
| 05:02.02 | herlo | undertakingyou: that Bryan guy is up in the night if he thinks we wanted to charge $1k+, that number *never* came up |
| 05:02.28 | sontek | yeah, hes just trolling |
| 05:02.40 | undertakingyou | I tried to talk some things down while being nice, We'll see |
| 05:03.14 | herlo | I pretty much fed it back to him just now |
| 05:03.35 | sontek | he would've known about the cost if he was part of a user group |
| 05:03.39 | sontek | or made any effort at all |
| 05:04.01 | herlo | sontek: I know! |
| 05:04.30 | decriptor_ | what's up with the 1K ? |
| 05:05.50 | undertakingyou | he is saying that the conference cost more than defcon and he won't go if we charge more. He said that one of the numbers he saw was 1K |
| 05:07.09 | sontek | decriptor_: there was a guy on the ubuntu-utah mailing list trolling about utosc |
| 05:07.18 | decriptor_ | losers |
| 05:07.20 | sontek | decriptor_: he somehow though we costed $1k |
| 05:07.35 | sontek | decriptor_: and he isn't good enough at the Internet to find our price listings |
| 05:07.36 | decriptor_ | how does he figure, dumb ubuntu users |
| 05:07.44 | sontek | decriptor_: since the cost is on the very firt page o the reg site :P |
| 05:07.51 | herlo | sontek: I did take them off the site as of Saturday methinks |
| 05:08.07 | herlo | sontek: but their still up at register for sure |
| 05:08.35 | undertakingyou | decriptor_ don't troll like that. Not cool :) |
| 05:08.48 | sontek | ** (nm-applet:4858): WARNING **: <WARN> save_one_secret(): Error saving secret for wireless network 'MMI' in keyring: 2 |
| 05:08.56 | sontek | do you guys know why keyring would be borked like that? |
| 05:09.15 | decriptor_ | good question |
| 05:09.47 | decriptor_ | non o |
| 05:09.49 | decriptor_ | non so |
| 05:10.06 | decriptor_ | perche ci chiedi |
| 05:10.09 | herlo | sontek: you're using openSUSE? |
| 05:10.21 | decriptor_ | bleeding broken edge openSUSE |
| 05:10.48 | decriptor_ | no monkeys here |
| 05:12.10 | decriptor_ | sorry thoughts of madagascar are coming to mind |
| 05:12.23 | sontek | decriptor_: yes, but when I use beta software I expect the "basics" to work :P |
| 05:12.30 | sontek | they should atleast test the easy stuff ;) |
| 05:12.32 | decriptor_ | sorry |
| 05:12.39 | decriptor_ | opensuse is interesting |
| 05:12.49 | decriptor_ | they don't seem to get it right until the rc or gmc |
| 05:12.53 | undertakingyou | decriptor_ when did you leave Madagascar? |
| 05:13.01 | decriptor_ | and by some miracle get most of it right |
| 05:13.08 | decriptor_ | undertakingyou: no the movie |
| 05:13.12 | sontek | Gutsy network manager/keyring are beta and they work just fine ;) |
| 05:13.15 | decriptor_ | the poop slinging monkeys |
| 05:13.33 | decriptor_ | sontek: yeah but the dev isn't being done by the germanys |
| 05:13.44 | decriptor_ | undertakingyou: all good |
| 05:14.54 | herlo | ~poo decriptor_ |
| 05:14.55 | infobot | ACTION summons a troop of flying monkeys to fling their poo at decriptor_ |
| 05:15.14 | decriptor_ | ~duck decriptor |
| 05:15.14 | infobot | ACTION gives decriptor a fuzzy, ugly little duckling, which immediately grows into a full sized swan and pummels decriptor with it's big white wings. |
| 05:15.26 | herlo | lol |
| 05:15.30 | decriptor_ | wow not what I was expecting |
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| 05:18.52 | herlo | decriptor_: so if they files are uploaded, maybe we should make a big tar and put a link to it from /presentations |
| 05:20.14 | decriptor_ | that probably wouldn't be a bad idea for the time being |
| 05:20.29 | herlo | decriptor_: how long? |
| 05:20.52 | decriptor_ | ? what do you mean |
| 05:21.01 | decriptor_ | if you don't mind tomorrow evening |
| 05:21.07 | decriptor_ | probably after I take my test |
| 05:21.27 | decriptor_ | working on that studying thing |
| 05:22.05 | herlo | decriptor_: that's fine |
| 05:22.28 | decriptor_ | you are feeling sleepy |
| 05:22.41 | herlo | decriptor_: one question though, is that because you have to go back through and get them all again? |
| 05:22.48 | decriptor_ | ? |
| 05:22.52 | decriptor_ | the files? |
| 05:23.31 | herlo | yeah |
| 05:23.55 | decriptor_ | they are all up there, they do need to be organized just a little though |
| 05:24.03 | herlo | okay, I'll do that. |
| 05:24.32 | decriptor_ | I started, so they are half or just a little less |
| 05:24.39 | decriptor_ | I don't remember why I had to stop last time |
| 05:24.51 | herlo | I see what you mean |
| 05:25.09 | decriptor_ | yeah I just got some more in an email too so I have to take care of that too |
| 05:25.14 | sontek | did you guys ever figure out how to convert s5 to pdf? |
| 05:25.20 | decriptor_ | I wish I didn't have this calc 2 test |
| 05:25.53 | decriptor_ | sontek: I think it involved causing pain to the person that created the s5 in the first plave |
| 05:25.55 | decriptor_ | place |
| 05:26.08 | sontek | decriptor_: s5 > open office |
| 05:26.24 | sontek | decriptor_: open office presentation is terrible |
| 05:26.30 | sontek | decriptor_: I rather write html and css than use it =) |
| 05:26.39 | decriptor_ | don't use it enough to argue one way or another |
| 05:26.44 | decriptor_ | wow |
| 05:27.01 | decriptor_ | anyways, I really need to get some more studying and sleep in |
| 05:27.21 | sontek | goodluck! |
| 05:27.50 | sontek | Remember, 2+2 = 4 |
| 05:27.50 | sontek | that should help out |
| 05:27.50 | decriptor_ | sontek: thanks, |
| 05:28.56 | herlo | sontek: haven't figured it out yet, but really haven't looked either |
| 05:29.17 | sontek | herlo: lazy! |
| 05:29.25 | herlo | sontek: yup! |
| 05:29.30 | herlo | sontek: n00b! |
| 05:30.13 | sontek | :[ |
| 05:32.12 | herlo | sontek: its true! |
| 05:33.34 | sontek | whens the first iris meeting? |
| 05:33.46 | herlo | sontek: when i get back? |
| 05:33.55 | sontek | I get back oct 1 |
| 05:34.07 | herlo | sontek: where are you going? |
| 05:34.18 | sontek | I'm supposed to start at GL oct 1 but they haven't sent me the contract, and I'm not putting my 2 weeks in until they get it to me :P |
| 05:34.19 | herlo | and will you be back on weekends? |
| 05:34.23 | sontek | herlo: Orlando |
| 05:34.34 | herlo | for GL? |
| 05:34.42 | sontek | herlo: yeah |
| 05:35.01 | sontek | miscommunication |
| 05:35.05 | sontek | florida is for Orchid |
| 05:35.10 | herlo | sontek: oh |
| 05:35.13 | herlo | okay, mms |
| 05:35.36 | sontek | I told Bryan and Dax I could start oct 1 but that was assuming they got me the contract in a timely fashion :P |
| 05:36.54 | herlo | sontek: yeah, tell them that if they don't it'll take longer... |
| 05:38.03 | undertakingyou | seems I am out of the loop, everyone is working for guru labs |
| 05:38.53 | herlo | undertakingyou: I'm sure that will change over time |
| 05:39.05 | undertakingyou | which part? |
| 05:39.36 | herlo | not sure, but one of them has to give doesn't it? |
| 05:39.52 | undertakingyou | :) yeah |
| 05:40.47 | sontek | herlo: but we should probably get hacking soon |
| 05:40.54 | sontek | herlo: do you have postgres setup on the server? |
| 05:41.05 | herlo | sontek: well, we need to get together for sure |
| 05:41.18 | herlo | sontek: no postgres, but I could. Never used it before |
| 05:41.27 | sontek | herlo: the first thing we need to build is the registration engine so we can have the reg site up in that time frame we defined |
| 05:41.34 | sontek | herlo: we can use mysql if you want |
| 05:42.00 | herlo | sontek: actually, we need to build the speaker "call for papers" piece first IMO |
| 05:42.02 | sontek | herlo: i'm not picky about open source databases, none of them match up to mssql |
| 05:42.17 | sontek | herlo: that can be handled by e-mail, registrations can't :P |
| 05:42.28 | sontek | herlo: but it'd be a quick 1 day build |
| 05:42.35 | herlo | sontek: you really think that MSSQL is better? |
| 05:42.39 | sontek | herlo: the call for papers stuff is pretty simple |
| 05:42.45 | sontek | herlo: by far |
| 05:42.47 | herlo | true |
| 05:43.12 | herlo | really, I'd most certainly have to disagree, but I'm just being a fanboy so... |
| 05:43.15 | sontek | herlo: postgres and mysql don't come close in feature set, performance, or ability to replicate/be clustered |
| 05:43.44 | sontek | for enterprise clustering and replication is very important and mysql/psql are _terrible_ at it |
| 05:43.45 | herlo | sontek: If I am going to pay for something, it had damn well better run on linux |
| 05:44.08 | sontek | herlo: thats why I said i'm not picky, we can use anything, because either way its going to be lacking features =) |
| 05:44.28 | herlo | uh huh |
| 05:47.54 | herlo | sontek: I'll go for MYSQL then because its already installed, though we could set up pgsql if you prefer |
| 05:50.55 | herlo | sontek: lets talk tomorrow sometime |
| 05:51.00 | sontek | herlo: yeah, just make just its setup as innodb |
| 05:51.06 | sontek | just make sure* |
| 05:51.14 | herlo | sontek: np |
| 05:51.28 | herlo | sontek: that means you want transactions :) |
| 05:51.36 | sontek | herlo: can't live without them |
| 05:51.56 | herlo | hehe |
| 05:52.12 | herlo | sontek, my eyes are drooping, time for bed |
| 05:52.20 | sontek | gnight! |
| 05:52.28 | sontek | I gotta get moonlight setup |
| 05:52.36 | sontek | and then bedtime =) |
| 05:53.03 | sontek | and I gotta figure out a good way to debug networkmanager/keyring to see what the suse guys screwed up on |
| 05:53.14 | sontek | only thing I can think of would be an strace |
| 05:54.26 | herlo | yup |
| 05:54.28 | herlo | gnight |
| 05:55.13 | undertakingyou | sontek: noob ? but, what is an strace? |
| 05:56.08 | sontek | undertakingyou: system call tracer, it watches an application and outputs the systemcalls it makes (accessing files and stuff) |
| 05:56.21 | undertakingyou | ok |
| 05:56.25 | undertakingyou | thanks |
| 05:56.29 | sontek | undertakingyou: type like 'strace ls' |
| 05:56.34 | sontek | and see what it outputs |
| 05:58.36 | undertakingyou | interesting, I know that the computer is trying to communicate with me, I just don't understand all that it says |
| 06:00.54 | sontek | lol |
| 06:07.36 | undertakingyou | sontek: my goal is to one day know as much as you |
| 06:09.59 | sontek | undertakingyou: are you going to help us build IRIS? |
| 06:10.32 | undertakingyou | I want to help as much as I can. herlo said I can be a tester |
| 06:10.58 | sontek | we can have like weekend hackfests and you can codez on it |
| 06:12.00 | undertakingyou | I'm game |
| 06:12.10 | undertakingyou | Happy to learn and happy to help |
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| 06:20.15 | sontek | we need to get a few people recruited for hacking on it because its a pretty big project |
| 06:20.24 | sontek | its like 6 apps in 1 |
| 06:24.44 | undertakingyou | sontek: Well I'm better in the evenings. And if there is a book that you recommend that I read to be of greater help I will be happy to do it. |
| 06:28.41 | sontek | well, I think Clint decided on python |
| 06:28.49 | sontek | although I'd prefer C# =) |
| 06:28.58 | sontek | so I'd snagup a python book |
| 06:29.01 | sontek | or atleast play with it |
| 06:29.29 | undertakingyou | k |
| 06:36.38 | Supaplex | decriptor: you've do xen testing, right? |
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| 13:40.09 | herlo | sontek: http://blog.dave.org.uk/archives/2007/06/turning-s5-into.html |
| 13:51.03 | ping | Supaplex: you have to buy the pv drivers |
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| 14:33.45 | Gate | herlo: I done screwed up. |
| 14:34.50 | Gate | the planned meeting is NEXT week not 2 weeks, making it the 20th. But if you still want the next Thursday, its yours, at the moment the ACM group is having a meeting and thats who would attend your presentation anyway. |
| 14:35.21 | goozbach | Supaplex: yeah, the windows PV driver is non-free |
| 14:35.34 | goozbach | methinks is comes with the supported SLES |
| 14:35.42 | goozbach | at least that's what decriptor told me |
| 14:35.48 | goozbach | and I trust him |
| 14:43.20 | maquis | ~trust goozbach |
| 14:43.21 | infobot | ACTION looks at goozbach suspiciously |
| 14:43.44 | maquis | ~infobot |
| 14:43.44 | infobot | maquis: I love abuse, feed me! |
| 14:43.50 | maquis | uh... |
| 14:43.55 | maquis | ~introduce yourself |
| 14:49.22 | *** part/#utos ping (n=sshaw@sshaw.fttp.xmission.com) |
| 14:52.45 | goozbach | I see.... ping WAS decriptor ... |
| 14:52.52 | goozbach | with a different hat |
| 14:55.00 | maquis | ok |
| 14:55.03 | maquis | what's wrong with this: |
| 14:55.20 | maquis | foreach i in `do something here`; do; some stuff; done |
| 14:56.03 | maquis | nm |
| 14:56.19 | maquis | i was stupid and missed a quote |
| 14:56.44 | thaddeusq | maquis: you also didn't mention what language. :) |
| 14:56.52 | maquis | thaddeusq: zsh :) |
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| 14:57.19 | maquis | thaddeusq: how's it going? |
| 14:58.37 | thaddeusq | maquis: It's going great! |
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| 15:20.49 | goozbach | I no longer trust that decriptor guy if he sits in this channel under other names |
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| 15:49.43 | sontek | hopefully you didn't sign his key yet! |
| 15:52.51 | goozbach | sontek: it's ok, I've got myself a revocation cert |
| 15:52.54 | goozbach | :) |
| 15:53.00 | goozbach | but no, I didn't sign his key |
| 15:55.04 | sontek | :D |
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| 16:22.21 | decriptor | goozbach: I was just having fun |
| 16:22.36 | decriptor | that might have been the first time I'm changed it to something that didn't resemble my name |
| 16:22.49 | decriptor | just getting a kick out of pinging ping :P |
| 16:23.23 | herlo | ~lart decriptor |
| 16:23.23 | infobot | strangles decriptor with a 9-pole serial cable |
| 16:24.02 | decriptor | ~smack herlo |
| 16:24.02 | infobot | ACTION smacks herlo upside the head. |
| 16:24.26 | herlo | ~whallop decriptor |
| 16:24.48 | herlo | ~betat decriptor |
| 16:24.52 | decriptor | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:24.56 | decriptor | you got nothing :P |
| 16:25.06 | herlo | ~beat decriptor |
| 16:25.07 | infobot | ACTION beats decriptor with a dripping-wet & less-than-fresh fish |
| 16:25.51 | decriptor | oh the smell alone |
| 16:25.56 | decriptor | ~girl herlo |
| 16:26.54 | decriptor | dang it |
| 16:26.55 | decriptor | ! |
| 16:26.59 | herlo | ~flame decriptor |
| 16:26.59 | infobot | decriptor, YOU SUCK. And you know it. |
| 16:27.08 | decriptor | rofl |
| 16:27.20 | decriptor | ~flame herlo |
| 16:27.21 | infobot | herlo, YOU SUCK. And you know it. |
| 16:27.25 | decriptor | that's great |
| 16:30.43 | Supaplex | cool, I won a GL275 class voucher :) They selected my name! |
| 16:31.13 | sontek | w00t |
| 16:31.28 | decriptor | :( |
| 16:31.41 | mheath | Supaplex: Cool |
| 16:31.47 | Jayce^ | ~lart Supaplex |
| 16:31.47 | infobot | overclocks Supaplex until Supaplex burns out |
| 16:31.50 | decriptor | Supaplex: congrats |
| 16:32.15 | Supaplex | Shaun Herbert> Congratulations on winning the GL275 class voucher! We have drawn your name from the troubleshooting challenge list. Please confirm whether you will be attending class next week. |
| 16:33.04 | decriptor | sontek: Congratulations! You and John are now connected. |
| 16:33.13 | decriptor | love those linkedin emails |
| 16:33.32 | decriptor | off to the lab |
| 16:41.33 | herlo | ~wedgie decriptor |
| 16:41.34 | infobot | ACTION hangs decriptor from the flag pole by his underwear |
| 16:41.53 | herlo | Supaplex: sweet! |
| 16:43.45 | Supaplex | I ask for a job application, and that's what I get. :) |
| 16:45.04 | mheath | Supaplex: Did you get a job application, too? :P |
| 16:46.09 | Supaplex | no job app. I replied asking about it just recently |
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| 17:04.52 | goozbach | ~bzfrag decriptor |
| 17:04.53 | infobot | ACTION tries to kill decriptor, but decriptor finds the shield flag |
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| 17:27.27 | undertakingyou | herlo: ping |
| 17:31.15 | herlo | undertakingyou: pong |
| 17:32.13 | undertakingyou | herlo: this Brian Petty on the Ubuntu-Utah mailing list is really kinda frustrating me. Can we just chew him out? |
| 17:34.29 | herlo | undertakingyou: nah, just let him simmer |
| 17:34.34 | herlo | don't respond... |
| 17:35.20 | undertakingyou | Man alive though, he keeps harping on that. You're right, oh well. |
| 17:35.31 | undertakingyou | herlo: know any good python books? |
| 17:35.48 | undertakingyou | sontek: ;aid I could help with Iris if I read one. |
| 17:35.59 | herlo | undertakingyou: yes, Core Python |
| 17:36.12 | herlo | undertakingyou: I also always like the O'Reilly selection |
| 17:37.02 | undertakingyou | herlo: noted, thanks |
| 17:37.42 | herlo | undertakingyou: can we say *flamebait* ? |
| 17:38.07 | undertakingyou | herlo: yeah, see what I mean :) |
| 17:38.37 | herlo | undertakingyou: Just write that at the bottom and let it be |
| 17:39.15 | undertakingyou | what, the flamebait comment and let it go? |
| 17:40.29 | herlo | undertakingyou: yeah. Just say |
| 17:40.42 | herlo | flamebait! |
| 17:40.45 | herlo | in your email |
| 17:40.48 | herlo | and be done with it |
| 17:41.55 | herlo | thaddeusq: just let it go - Bryan on ubuntu-utah |
| 17:43.46 | herlo | undertakingyou: he actually has some good points. I'm responding |
| 17:45.25 | undertakingyou | herlo: I think that he does too. The first time that he said them I was Full on board. I think about his 5th email whining about the same this is what really ticked me off. |
| 17:48.35 | maquis | wjhat's he whining about? |
| 17:49.01 | goozbach | maquis: search the archives. it's pretty petty and juvenile |
| 17:49.37 | goozbach | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-ut/2007-September/000478.html |
| 17:49.44 | goozbach | that's the email that started it all |
| 17:52.17 | undertakingyou | maquis: he says that we were way to expensive, and that if we up our price he won't attend next year. He keeps saying that we need to be like DEFCON and have a set price. Even though he only paid 40, he is still complaining. |
| 17:53.45 | goozbach | I say we fire him |
| 17:54.09 | goozbach | I would have paid $300-400 for a conference like that, as a matter of fact, I have |
| 17:54.29 | goozbach | it wasn't too much bigger than UTOSC and it cost me $350 |
| 17:54.40 | goozbach | I'm speaking of astricon of course |
| 17:55.10 | goozbach | http://www.astricon.net/?q=node/51 |
| 17:55.37 | undertakingyou | goozbach: I also understand that OSCON costs 1000 for early bird and 1600 for full price. |
| 17:56.01 | undertakingyou | there are other expensive conferences out there. |
| 17:56.22 | maquis | hmmm... one of his assumpitoons is "assuming my paper was accepted" |
| 17:56.28 | maquis | did we turn down anyone who wanted to present? |
| 17:57.30 | herlo | undertakingyou: I think I've disarmed him some |
| 17:57.52 | undertakingyou | what did you say? Did you send it to the list or just him? |
| 17:57.53 | herlo | maquis: yes, we did. There were a couple we shouldn't have let participate... |
| 17:57.57 | herlo | undertakingyou: list |
| 17:59.17 | herlo | undertakingyou: that's not my job |
| 17:59.29 | undertakingyou | :) thanks for the support |
| 18:02.56 | AlmostTher1 | May I make a suggestion? |
| 18:03.11 | goozbach | AlmostTher1: go ahead |
| 18:03.24 | AlmostTher1 | I have worked in several industries; one of these was in aviation manufacturing. After each project was completed we created a “Lessons Learned” document. This was created so those who came after wouldn't have to relearn all that we experienced and it helped remind us of what we did. This made for less mistakes over time. |
| 18:03.56 | AlmostTher1 | I suggest doing the same here. |
| 18:04.00 | *** topic/#utos by herlo -> Software for Starving Students has just been released - http://digg.com/software/Software_for_Starving_Students_2007_09_release_now_available |
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| 19:40.14 | Jayce^ | http://www.linkedin.com/in/jayce |
| 20:09.49 | sontek | http://www.linkedin.com/in/sontek |
| 20:11.30 | herlo | so, why are we doing that? |
| 20:13.31 | sontek | herlo: because we are all friends! |
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| 20:17.44 | herlo | sontek: I didn't see the note from TimRiker until after I posted that question... |
| 20:18.02 | sontek | herlo: n00b! |
| 20:18.53 | herlo | ~noob sontek |
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| 20:19.33 | Supaplex | haha |
| 20:19.40 | herlo | infobot: noob $sontek is <action> knows that $sontek is quite the n00b! -> haha, n00b! |
| 20:19.41 | infobot | ACTION declares $sontek a noob at is <action> knows that $sontek is quite the n00b! -> haha, n00b! |
| 20:19.43 | herlo | ~noob sontek |
| 20:20.09 | herlo | infobot: noob $1 is <action> knows that $1 is quite the n00b! -> haha, n00b! |
| 20:20.10 | infobot | ACTION declares $1 a noob at is <action> knows that $1 is quite the n00b! -> haha, n00b! |
| 20:20.18 | Supaplex | haha |
| 20:20.19 | herlo | infobot: no, noob $1 is <action> knows that $1 is quite the n00b! -> haha, n00b! |
| 20:20.20 | infobot | herlo: okay |
| 20:20.24 | herlo | ~noob sontek |
| 20:20.24 | infobot | ACTION knows that sontek is quite the n00b! -> haha, n00b! |
| 20:20.34 | herlo | ~noob Supaplex |
| 20:20.35 | infobot | ACTION knows that Supaplex is quite the n00b! -> haha, n00b! |
| 20:22.45 | Supaplex | oh no! *laugh* |
| 20:23.52 | sontek | ~pee herlo |
| 20:23.52 | infobot | ACTION unzips his pants and tinkles on the head of herlo |
| 20:26.50 | herlo | ~poo sontek |
| 20:26.51 | infobot | ACTION summons a troop of flying monkeys to fling their poo at sontek |
| 20:27.01 | sontek | ~douche herlo |
| 20:27.05 | sontek | aww |
| 20:27.11 | herlo | ~whalepoo sontek |
| 20:27.25 | herlo | ~whalepoop sontek |
| 20:27.25 | infobot | ACTION catapults a truckload of whale poop from a freakishly large killer whale named Hugh at sontek |
| 20:28.53 | Supaplex | ~trip herlo |
| 20:28.53 | infobot | ACTION sticks her foot out and trips herlo so he falls flat on their face. |
| 20:32.40 | herlo | ~whallop Supaplex |
| 20:33.52 | herlo | infobot: whallop $Supaplex is <action> gets her boyfriend $who to whallop $1 until $1 whimpers like a little girl! |
| 20:33.53 | infobot | okay, herlo |
| 20:33.56 | herlo | ~whallop Supaplex |
| 20:33.57 | infobot | ACTION gets her boyfriend herlo to whallop $1 until $1 whimpers like a little girl! |
| 20:34.15 | herlo | infobot: whallop $Supaplex is <action> gets her boyfriend $who to whallop $Supaplex until $Supaplex whimpers like a little girl! |
| 20:34.15 | infobot | ACTION gets her boyfriend herlo to whallop $1 until $1 whimpers like a little girl! |
| 20:34.20 | herlo | infobot: no, whallop $Supaplex is <action> gets her boyfriend $who to whallop $Supaplex until $Supaplex whimpers like a little girl! |
| 20:34.21 | infobot | herlo: okay |
| 20:34.25 | herlo | ~whallop Supaplex |
| 20:34.26 | infobot | ACTION gets her boyfriend herlo to whallop $Supaplex until $Supaplex whimpers like a little girl! |
| 20:34.46 | herlo | infobot: no, whallop $1 is <action> gets her boyfriend $who to whallop $1 until $1 whimpers like a little girl! |
| 20:34.47 | infobot | herlo: okay |
| 20:34.49 | herlo | ~whallop Supaplex |
| 20:34.50 | infobot | ACTION gets her boyfriend herlo to whallop Supaplex until Supaplex whimpers like a little girl! |
| 20:34.50 | Heartsbane | herlo: you fail at bot |
| 20:34.56 | herlo | ~whallop Heartsbane |
| 20:34.57 | infobot | ACTION gets her boyfriend herlo to whallop Heartsbane until Heartsbane whimpers like a little girl! |
| 20:36.04 | Heartsbane | herlo: whallop me all you want in the end, you will tired. However, I will still be a PITA |
| 20:36.23 | Heartsbane | :) |
| 20:36.49 | Heartsbane | thaddeusq: I bet he is just bored |
| 20:46.19 | Jayce^ | what's herlo to do with time.. |
| 20:47.59 | Supaplex | burn it |
| 21:38.00 | herlo | thaddeusq: I have no time! |
| 21:42.03 | herlo | thaddeusq: gee, thanks! |
| 21:42.33 | herlo | goozbach: ping |
| 21:42.39 | herlo | goozbach: 2MB/s |
| 21:45.57 | herlo | goozbach: can I run for a while? I'd like to keep it here until XMission says we can't! |
| 21:47.54 | goozbach | haven't gotten a call yet |
| 21:47.57 | goozbach | let it run |
| 22:10.31 | TimRiker | I don't see my presentations up on the web yet. http://www.utosc.org/presentations/ |
| 22:24.23 | herlo | goozbach: okay! |
| 22:24.33 | herlo | TimRiker: I know, working on it... |
| 22:29.13 | TimRiker | k |
| 22:29.59 | herlo | :) |
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| 22:38.42 | decriptor_ | eat this UVSC |
| 22:39.40 | decriptor_ | block my irc chat will you |
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| 22:45.39 | kendawg | I see you made it through |
| 22:45.43 | kendawg | the power of the tunnel :-) |
| 22:46.44 | decriptor_ | oh yeah |
| 22:46.50 | decriptor_ | again |
| 22:46.58 | decriptor_ | I lost count |
| 22:47.20 | kendawg | umm... what ever could you mean? |
| 22:47.26 | kendawg | ;-) |
| 22:47.32 | decriptor_ | umm.. I don't ummm know |
| 22:48.10 | kendawg | interesting... |
| 22:48.14 | decriptor_ | yes |
| 22:48.22 | decriptor_ | I don't want to count anymore |
| 22:48.24 | decriptor_ | make it stop |
| 22:48.29 | kendawg | they are called "speech disfluencies" |
| 22:48.50 | decriptor_ | well its making me feel disfunctional |
| 22:49.04 | decriptor_ | again again |
| 22:49.07 | decriptor_ | make it STOP |
| 22:49.26 | Supaplex | anyone know how to copy all but one layer and paste those layers on another image? (gimp 2.4.0rc1) |
| 22:49.46 | decriptor_ | not sure undertakingyou would be maybe a good person to ask |
| 22:50.32 | decriptor_ | oh maybe link them together all but the one you don't want to move |
| 22:51.46 | undertakingyou | Supaplex: That is one thing that the gimp is weak in. you can't select more than one layer at a time so I just open both pictures and drag the layers one at a time from the old document to the new document |
| 22:52.09 | decriptor_ | undertakingyou: even in the new 2.4 rc1 |
| 22:52.11 | undertakingyou | Supaplex: or you could delete the one that you don't need and then do a save-as |
| 22:52.34 | undertakingyou | I'm not sure in 2.4, haven't played as much. |
| 22:53.02 | Supaplex | humm yeah. i think i'll just retype my text layers. it'll be faster. |
| 22:53.03 | decriptor_ | I just installed it on windows for my wife the other day |
| 22:53.20 | decriptor_ | haven't had a change to play with it yet, the interface looks the same for that area of the layers screen |
| 22:53.27 | herlo | TimRiker: looking for your presentation now... |
| 22:53.36 | undertakingyou | If you can't CTRL click and select multiple layers I doubt that you can do it. |
| 22:55.31 | undertakingyou | decriptor_: I need to install 2.4 and check it out. Finally installed Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon Alpha 5 last night. |
| 22:56.09 | decriptor_ | what |
| 22:56.14 | decriptor_ | and not opensuse :D |
| 22:56.41 | sontek | i'm thinking about switching to 10.2, 10.3 is way to buggy |
| 22:57.00 | undertakingyou | decriptor_: I am going to do that in a vmware and check it out. I promise, I will. |
| 22:57.00 | sontek | the opensuse crowd takes the title 'beta' seriously |
| 22:57.59 | decriptor_ | seriously crappy |
| 22:58.04 | decriptor_ | rc1 should be a lot better |
| 22:58.16 | decriptor_ | this one is really bad because of the gnome 2.20 release |
| 22:58.29 | decriptor_ | I think people were saying that the kde on there is much better |
| 22:58.47 | decriptor_ | it will be released in about 3 or 4 weeks |
| 22:58.52 | decriptor_ | should be a lot better by then |
| 22:59.01 | sontek | novell employs half the gnome developers, if any distro could get it right, i'd expect suse to ;) |
| 22:59.30 | decriptor_ | the other thing that you might want to do is add http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/i386 to your repo and update |
| 22:59.31 | Supaplex | unless it's a lost cause |
| 22:59.39 | decriptor_ | no |
| 22:59.52 | decriptor_ | just that kde has been the desktop of suse for the longest time |
| 22:59.56 | decriptor_ | so its going to be better |
| 23:00.18 | sontek | this is the most unstable distro of Linux I've used as far as I can remember |
| 23:00.25 | sontek | redhat 6 wasn't this bad :P |
| 23:00.35 | sontek | (redhat, not fedora) |
| 23:00.38 | decriptor_ | you should have use the earlier betas :P |
| 23:01.11 | sontek | they are lucky they have slab ;) |
| 23:01.16 | sontek | that makes it all better! |
| 23:01.19 | decriptor_ | :P |
| 23:01.28 | decriptor_ | opensuse has a way of coming together in the end |
| 23:01.35 | sontek | and they bind the windows key to it, which is nice of them |
| 23:01.36 | decriptor_ | rc1 has tons of big fixes in it |
| 23:02.10 | decriptor_ | the windows key shortcuts in windows are mapped to crtl atl [key] for you too |
| 23:02.54 | TimRiker | herlo: they are on that usb stick. that's why you have it and not me. |
| 23:03.21 | decriptor_ | TimRiker: you didn't plug in your usb key |
| 23:03.25 | decriptor_ | or did you not get on |
| 23:03.26 | decriptor_ | e |
| 23:03.53 | TimRiker | decriptor_: this is not about "getting" presentations, it's about "uploading" presentations. |
| 23:04.03 | decriptor_ | oh |
| 23:04.41 | decriptor_ | do you need to get your slides uploaded? |
| 23:15.56 | goozbach | http://blog.friocorte.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/slides.pdf -- my slides |
| 23:16.01 | goozbach | a handout is forthcoming |
| 23:16.35 | sontek | I guess herlo found a thing to convert s5 presentations to pdf |
| 23:16.40 | sontek | so I might mine up tonight |
| 23:20.44 | sontek | I've been dating the same girl for 6 years, not sure if shes the one yet ;p |
| 23:21.36 | Supaplex | date her much longer, and she'll be a woman |
| 23:28.04 | sontek | decriptor: you ever ran windows on xen? |
| 23:29.49 | maquis | ~lart goozbach |
| 23:29.49 | infobot | decapitates goozbach conan the destroyer style |
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| 23:37.14 | herlo | sontek: is they up for real? |
| 23:37.38 | sontek | herlo: eh?! |
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| 23:52.24 | herlo | sontek> I guess herlo found a thing to convert s5 presentations to pdf |
| 23:52.25 | herlo | 17:16 < sontek> so I might mine up tonight |