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| 19:29.20 | jfindlay | asoc: what heatsink gear do you recommend for pi 3B+? |
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| 19:39.37 | asoc | I just have this guy: JBtek Transparent Acrylic... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00M859PA6?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share |
| 19:40.04 | asoc | With these heat sinks: LoveRPi 5-Pack Performance... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01G9NA2I6?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share |
| 19:44.17 | asoc | If you want a passive but clean option the flirc cases (Flirc Raspberry Pi 3B Case https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B07349HT26/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_P1keFb3VMYKTW) seem to be really good and if you want all the cooling you could get an IceTower (seeed studio Blink Blink ICE Tower CPU Cooling Fan for Raspberry Pi (Support Pi 4) https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B07XFLMYSC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_z2keFbHYQ2JZ9) but thatâs probably overkill for |
| 19:44.17 | asoc | basically everyone. I havenât tried these options yet though. They were just the next things I wanted to try out based on my research and if I wanted either better looks or more cooling. |
| 19:44.24 | asoc | The open style case works really well. |
| 19:46.18 | asoc | https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/aluminium-heatsink-case-for-raspberry-pi-4 is another passive option that seemed to pop up in thermal tests a bunch |
| 19:47.31 | asoc | There could be newer options that cool better since it has been a bit since Iâve looked and where my pi is the fan noise and looks arenât an issue so I havenât branched out past what I have. |
| 20:23.43 | jfindlay | I could just get a pi 4 kit, but it seems wasteful to have this 3b+ and not use it for something |
| 20:24.15 | jfindlay | the pi 4 usb C power port is almost compelling all by itself |
| 20:24.34 | asoc | Yeah I was lucky and had a new home to ship off my pi 3 to when I got my pi 4 |
| 20:24.35 | jfindlay | mini/micro usb ports were poorly designed |
| 20:24.52 | asoc | Mini is not terrible imo but micro is the worst. |
| 20:25.33 | asoc | The other cool thing is you can power and use the usb-c for data at the same time so you can use it on the go connected with one cable to a laptop or iPad. |
| 20:25.43 | asoc | If you have usb-c on said laptop. |
| 20:25.59 | spangborn | The USB-C on the Pi4 is not ideal either |
| 20:26.19 | spangborn | Unless you've bought the revised hardware |
| 20:26.22 | jfindlay | at least I never had to use a Micro A: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_hardware#/media/File:USB_2.0_and_3.0_connectors.svg |
| 20:26.36 | spangborn | https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-4-usb-c-update |
| 20:26.58 | spangborn | also the Pi's USB-C cable is only usable for power |
| 20:27.06 | jfindlay | I thought they would have learned by plain type A connectors that nobody wants Schrödinger's port |
| 20:27.18 | spangborn | *connector |
| 20:27.29 | asoc | I had one micro-a cable it wasnât great at all. |
| 20:27.31 | spangborn | Maybe they'll finally make it usable like a regular USB-C port on laptops in Pi5 |
| 20:28.03 | jfindlay | or mix/match all usb ports can now power the unit :-) |
| 20:28.32 | spangborn | I just buy the PSUs that come in the canakits now |
| 20:28.36 | spangborn | Because I know they're going to work |
| 20:28.56 | asoc | spangborn: you can enable data on the USB-C port |
| 20:28.59 | asoc | https://www.hardill.me.uk/wordpress/2019/11/02/pi4-usb-c-gadget/ |
| 20:29.48 | asoc | The first time I saw it used like that was to have a full usable Linux environment from an iPad Pro. |
| 20:30.01 | spangborn | You have to have the newer revision though |
| 20:30.07 | spangborn | Which most of them aren't |
| 20:30.29 | spangborn | Lame that you have to do that much manual work to make it usable though, even on the new hardware |
| 20:31.03 | asoc | Oh really? I was under the impression you didnât because I thought I had seen videos before that came out before the revision did but maybe Iâm wrong. |
| 20:36.50 | jfindlay | I got a raspad for my kid, but it was very poorly designed and I became concerned it would eventually burn down our house |
| 21:24.51 | taxilian | th3ph3d I used to do local pickup but shipping is only $3 and it's just not worth the time it takes |
| 21:25.10 | taxilian | particularly because I always end up getting caught up in long conversations with people =] |
| 21:26.42 | taxilian | jfindlay also re: usb-c â speak for yourself. The only problem I have with USB-C is that not everything uses it yet. it's far easier to get USB-C power adapters and if hub manufacturers would just start making it possible to get USB 3 hubs with USB-C ports instead of USB-A I'd want every single peripheral I own to use it =] |
| 21:27.34 | jfindlay | yes |
| 21:27.38 | taxilian | I missed the followup to the question about streaming 4k the other day so someone probably already answered, but the pi 4 with USB 3 and faster ethernet should be able to do it fine as long as the storage is fast enough (and you can use USB 3 external hard drive if needed) and you aren't transcoding. if you are then I have no idea |
| 21:29.08 | jfindlay | usb was the humble right answer for so long, USB type C connectors just ensures its status as the best multimodal utility transport ever |
| 21:29.41 | jfindlay | I'm sure USB 4/D will overdo it and we will all go back to proprietary connectors and cables |
| 21:30.17 | taxilian | I must have misunderstood your statement then =] my apologies |
| 21:30.18 | taxilian | but yeah |
| 21:30.40 | taxilian | actually usb 4 and thunderbolt 4 are looking very promising, from what I've seen, but time will tell I guess =] |
| 21:31.51 | jfindlay | I was upset about phones removing analog audio before I learned that USB C has a full headset in its pinout |
| 21:32.01 | jfindlay | now I'm only less upset |
| 21:32.16 | taxilian | yeah, that's still annoying to me as well |
| 21:32.51 | jfindlay | but audio over those tiny USB C pins doesn't sound as good in comparison when plugged into a hifi stereo |
| 21:33.01 | th3ph3d | taxilian: Ok, i'll just order online then. Should have grabbed one for my Baofeng last time I was at a build party. |
| 21:33.47 | taxilian | some day I'll be able to do those again... |
| 21:33.59 | taxilian | just started making color ones |
| 22:10.10 | taxilian | trying a new IRC client and just want to verify -- is this working? /ping --type=manual :-P |
| 22:11.24 | jfindlay | I think it's autotranslating to klingon |
| 22:37.44 | taxilian | perfect! |
| 22:37.56 | taxilian | wow. my irc clients aren't scrolling automatically. this one doesn't and adium didn't |
| 22:37.58 | taxilian | I'm really baffled |
| 22:42.41 | taxilian | see if that helped... |
| 22:42.45 | taxilian | wow, maybe it is fixed |
| 22:47.16 | jfindlay | what client? |
| 22:47.35 | jfindlay | I just use plain weechat because I'm boring |
| 22:47.56 | jfindlay | also every time I try to configure weechat, I'm thwarted by weechat's inscrutable docs |
| 22:58.57 | th3ph3d | I'm lazy and fork over $5/month to Irccloud. |
| 22:59.04 | th3ph3d | the push notifications are great. |
| 23:05.52 | taxilian | colloquy |
| 23:05.56 | taxilian | had to update it |
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