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| 03:39.07 | RyanE | I don't know... The documentation should show whether you can or not... |
| 03:39.16 | RyanE | oops. Wrong window... :) |
| 03:39.22 | RyanE | but probably correct in any case. |
| 11:05.47 | shalkie | Taxes? What are Taxes? Are they funny Axes? |
| 11:05.54 | shalkie | ~warren jfindlay |
| 11:05.54 | infobot | ACTION pays for jfindlay's college |
| 11:06.04 | shalkie | The system is rigged! |
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| 11:07.45 | shalkie | youtah: What are you using for weather data collection at your house? |
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| 14:18.36 | youtah | shalkie, I have a weather station |
| 14:18.55 | youtah | it reports into their cloud system |
| 14:19.27 | youtah | however I found that I can log into their site, and get the jwt (bearer token) and keep making my own calls |
| 14:19.35 | youtah | and play with the json that is meant for the front end |
| 14:19.49 | youtah | So I can make my own custom reports |
| 15:01.30 | shalkie | youtah: I keep getting tempted by the AcuRite and La Crosse stuff. |
| 15:15.39 | youtah | I haven't run my script in a while |
| 15:15.42 | youtah | just tried running it |
| 15:15.47 | youtah | apparently they changed things up |
| 15:15.50 | youtah | crap |
| 15:15.51 | youtah | lol |
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| 15:16.41 | RyanE | that's the problem of working without an official API... We often have 3rd parties that write Control4 drivers to control systems, and they inevitably stop working when the unofficial API changes. |
| 15:16.45 | RyanE | bummer. |
| 15:17.06 | RyanE | And sometimes, even the official APIs stop working (I'm looking at you, Nest!). |
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| 15:21.13 | shalkie | Ambient Weather seems to have gotten that message. I try to get things that don't require a third party service though. That seems to be the draw back here, having your data go to their "cloud" means you rely on them accepting it. They belly up and your possibly SOL unless you get creative and rebuild the backend. |
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| 17:11.39 | youtah | Serious discussion: Thoughts on the language go |
| 17:11.58 | youtah | Thoughts? Like? Dislike? Pros? Cons? What's it really useful for? |
| 17:12.19 | youtah | lol RyanE |
| 17:13.16 | youtah | RyanE, I don't have the time ATM to go back and hunt down the changes. Looks like the JSON being returned is a totally different structure. Atleast they're breaking their data up into separate calls now. |
| 17:13.41 | youtah | before it was just one huge massive JSON object that was umpteen million lines long |
| 17:18.28 | romanovic | youtah: for someone who is still writing C/C++, I think it offers a lot of benefits and adds sanity and still performs well compared to JVM/.NET JIT languages, or node |
| 17:20.48 | romanovic | but, if you don't need bleeding edge stellar bare metal performance, I think the language features are quite inferior to other modern languages. Kotlin, C# 7+, Scala |
| 17:21.29 | youtah | hmmm, interesting |
| 17:21.48 | youtah | I have done nearly everything in Python/BASH the last .... 7-8 years |
| 17:22.03 | youtah | I am trying to think of what it might offer that I don't already have |
| 17:22.14 | youtah | other than maybe some performance? I do a lot of automation with Python |
| 17:22.18 | youtah | system, web, etc |
| 17:22.20 | romanovic | I've done very little Go development. We have a couple of projects at work that use it. Specifically, one is routing some of our network traffic, and it seems very well suited for that. Almost everything else we do is JVM based |
| 17:22.33 | youtah | Oh, interesting |
| 17:22.57 | youtah | I am thinking it might be worth while to pick up and play with |
| 17:23.31 | youtah | I live in a heavy scripting based world |
| 17:23.50 | youtah | So this might be something a little different |
| 17:25.37 | romanovic | TIL go scripting is possible. https://gist.github.com/posener/73ffd326d88483df6b1cb66e8ed1e0bd |
| 17:26.23 | youtah | huh |
| 17:27.22 | romanovic | I love my statically typed languages for large scale development. Python is still my automatic go-to when I need quick automation or scripting of anything |
| 17:27.39 | romanovic | Dunno if it can be beat |
| 17:28.56 | youtah | "The problem is that I'm lazy, and when I run my script I want to type ./my-script.go and not go run my-script.go." |
| 17:28.58 | youtah | lol |
| 17:55.05 | jfindlay | too many gos |
| 18:25.27 | spangborn | youtah: go fish |
| 18:35.24 | jfindlay | go is responsible for overfishing |
| 18:35.37 | jfindlay | #thanxtrump |
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| 19:50.05 | youtah | spangborn, do you have a...... |
| 19:50.18 | youtah | a formal impeachment inquiry? |
| 19:51.14 | spangborn | Yes |
| 19:51.17 | spangborn | Youâre fired |
| 19:51.39 | spangborn | Also your FB friends are mostly idiots |
| 19:51.40 | youtah | but what if it was your fired |
| 19:51.48 | youtah | and you owned the fired? |
| 19:52.17 | youtah | which ones spangborn? |
| 19:53.01 | spangborn | The pro-Trump ones |
| 19:53.04 | youtah | one just commented just now! |
| 19:53.10 | youtah | something about arguing |
| 19:53.12 | youtah | lol |
| 19:53.19 | youtah | yeah, the M.E. guy is a neighbor |
| 19:53.21 | jfindlay | #thankstrump |
| 19:53.36 | youtah | his is also the older brother to someone I went to Elementary, Middle and High School with |
| 19:53.49 | jfindlay | #thanksyoutah |
| 19:54.04 | youtah | He's the one that made the dumb "It's a waste of time and money!" |
| 19:54.10 | youtah | comment |
| 19:59.39 | spangborn | Lol |
| 19:59.43 | spangborn | Theyâre all idiots |
| 20:05.53 | jfindlay | youtah: go is good for RESTy stuff and stuff closely related: microservices, macroservices, anything that exists to transmit over the network or has a network-based worldview |
| 20:07.00 | jfindlay | every company in the world tries to copy what goog does without ever thinking if goog's use case applies to their own need manifests |
| 20:07.23 | youtah | I am doing a crap ton of RESTy things |
| 20:07.36 | youtah | how are the libraries for handling OAuth, OpenID? |
| 20:07.38 | youtah | any idea? |
| 20:07.39 | jfindlay | 'goog uses teh l33t whiteboard algz!!', 'goog microserves everything!1' |
| 20:09.05 | jfindlay | my opinion is highly novice and greatly constructed of 3rd hand heresay and guesses about how the googplex thinks about the world |
| 20:09.40 | youtah | everything I am finding is implementing your own server |
| 20:11.23 | spangborn | I'll serve you |
| 20:11.36 | jfindlay | in soviet china |
| 20:12.39 | spangborn | hong kong's youtah |
| 20:14.21 | spangborn | youtah will enjoy this. Spot the bad photoshop https://imgur.com/a/075pjyc |
| 20:28.01 | shalkie | youtah: If you want to rate it based on the people that wrote it I can toss out Rob Pike and Ken Thompson as the first two that come to mind. |
| 20:28.19 | shalkie | I am trying to beat it into my head because it is used for K8s. |
| 20:30.00 | shalkie | I mean from the ground up written in Go. |
| 20:31.21 | shalkie | So for me, since I want to focus more time working in Kubernetes, I have a good reason. |
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| 20:34.13 | shalkie | LinkedIn recruiter strikes again! This time suggesting I apply for a Tech Support Engineer. |
| 20:34.26 | shalkie | I worked really hard to get out of tech support stuff. |
| 20:34.40 | shalkie | But I find the last requirement funny: "Must be willing and able to work in an open office, team environment." |
| 20:39.15 | spangborn | gross |
| 20:39.21 | spangborn | as someone who works in an open office |
| 21:56.15 | jlp_znc | I've worked in a few open office environments... I'm glad to be back safely snug in a cubicle (although admitedly with only half-high walls) |
| 21:56.34 | jlp_znc | best cubes I ever worked in were at Cadence... full height walls and doors on the cubes! |
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| 22:23.44 | romanovic | wow, sounds like the linkedin recruiter is just casting a wide net |
| 22:24.26 | romanovic | I wonder how many dev or ops guys you have to hit up before you find one willing to transition _out_ of those roles and into support |
| 22:25.06 | shalkie | I had an office once, for a few months. It was nice. |
| 22:25.36 | romanovic | it must be nice. the closest I've come is an enclosed room with 4 or 5 other developers |
| 22:26.30 | romanovic | my current job is awesome, but almost everyone is in an open plan office |
| 22:28.34 | romanovic | I keep threatening to build my own cubicle walls around my desk, individually. also got moved a couple of months ago from an open plan in a low traffic building to open plan in a high traffic building. I feel like my productivity took a 50% hit, overnight |
| 22:29.28 | romanovic | I'm going to do it, over our holiday break when I have time. I'm going to build walls and a roof (the artificial lighting is also killer). |
| 22:34.44 | shalkie | I think the simple solution is something like the old fashion shower curtain that is just a giant ring that sits above the tub. Then hang some sort of sound dampening material. |
| 22:35.14 | klys | so today I felt challenged by https://c.hale.su/libk and produced the following |
| 22:35.19 | klys | http://show.ing.me/paste/2019-10-31-160405_1280x800_scrot.png |
| 22:35.39 | shalkie | Alternative would be a box made out of Coroplast or cardboard |
| 22:37.32 | shalkie | Something like the phone booths that are out there: |
| 22:37.34 | shalkie | https://room.com/?_vsrefdom=adwords&utm_source=adwords&utm_medium=ppc&utm_term=%2Bopen%20%2Boffice%20%2Bspaces&utm_campaign=sem_design_office_usa_bmm&hsa_cam=1876216981&hsa_acc=3874436272&hsa_tgt=kwd-793512707407&hsa_kw=%2Bopen%20%2Boffice%20%2Bspaces&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_src=g&hsa_mt=b&hsa_ad=347382582465&hsa_ver=3&hsa_grp=66817728901&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI4snbzsfH5QIV5B6tBh1bcABmEAMYAiAAEgLvn_D_BwE |
| 22:37.49 | shalkie | wow, that was crap. Just go to room.com |
| 22:48.20 | romanovic | interesting. if those were about 2.5x wider and could fit my standing desk, and I never had to share it with anyone, and the window were shaded, then it would be perfect |
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| 23:49.00 | RyanE | I modded my cube to be a double-wide. |
