IRC log for #utah on 20191008

00:33.39shalkie"Potentially"
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12:45.13spangbornNope
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13:31.10youtahSo there are like 10 other companies that share the same building that we are in.
13:31.57youtahOne of the companies, apparently, doesn't have a sink or kitchen, and they wash/clean/fill their coffee pots in the bathroom while everyone's pooping 8' away
13:32.49youtahEither way, I made a post on FB about it, being nasty and disgusting. Apparently a lot of people find this totally and socially acceptable seeing it's their only means. (Which it's not... get one of those water jug delivery services instead)
13:33.25youtahI mean, what restaurant would get away prepping food in an actively used bathroom.
13:33.54youtahDepartment of Health would shut that down so fast. There are reasons that it is a no no.
13:34.09youtahANYWAY... that was the back story for context
13:34.23youtah<inserts link>You won't believe what happens next!</link>
13:35.20youtahSo I am, in, well, a stall yesterday. I hear someone come in, and set the coffee pot down and start running the water. The water turns off and I come out of the stall. There is the Coffee pot, sitting all alone on the bathroom counter with no one around. I was like WTF?! Did they just leave?
13:36.05youtahSo, I kind of peak around the corner and the guy was standing at one of the Urinals doing his business. So I step like 3-4 sinks down so that way I won't splash soapy water on the pot when I wash my hands
13:37.02youtahSo the guy comes back, DOESN'T WASH his hands, fixes the spout with this bare hands, pulls something out of the middle of the coffee pot with his bare hands (chunk of something?) and fills it with water and leaves
13:37.12youtahNever washed his hands after going to the bathroom, nada.
13:37.35youtahHe basically took the situation and doubled down on the grossness.
13:37.49youtah</end of coffee pot poop story>
14:49.01RyanEeww
15:53.55JPaulnothing like getting 16 hours of work in during a 25 hour period
15:57.20spangbornyoutah: what was that automation framework you liked?
15:59.53spangbornnvm, RobotFramework
15:59.54spangbornfoudn it
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16:34.54youtahYes, that
16:35.20youtahRyanE> eww << Yes, that
16:36.55youtah<3's Python Pickles
17:19.39spangbornyoutah needs picklebacks
17:20.03youtahfrom canada?
17:21.24jfindlayJPaul: isn't that like the normal rate; in fact, even a little less than normal during the workweek?
17:22.13jfindlay<PROTECTED>
17:22.54jfindlayincluding weekends the ratio is 0.238
17:42.51JPauljfindlay, from 9am Mon to 10AM Tuesday, working 16 hours is normal?
17:47.32jfindlayright, I was thinking 25 hours was 2 days
17:47.50JPaulit bleeds into a second day, but 2 days is 48 hours
17:47.53jfindlay~trump youtah
17:47.53infobotACTION bankrupts youtah
17:48.35JPaulif you're working 80 hours a week, you need to find a new employer
18:36.07youtahmy friend keeps bragging about how he gets 80 hours a week (he's paid hourly)
18:36.17youtahand I keep thinking... "Uh, yeah... no."
18:36.44youtahbut he's also doing it voluntarily either
18:39.02JPaulso he's insane
18:39.11youtah+1
18:39.48JPaulif you have to work 80+ hours to make $X, you're doing it wrong
18:39.56youtah+1
18:39.59youtahlol
18:41.23JPaulI get to 45 hours and I'm exhausted. course most of the time that happens it's because I'm having to do work at night in addition to my 9-5 work hours, so I don't get enough sleep.
18:42.16JPaulbig difference doing 10 hours in one go as opposed to 9 hours in one go and then another hour or two 5 hours later
18:42.23jfindlay40 hours is about the limit of extremity
18:42.43youtahWhen I was in france, I was talking to a bunch of 20-30 somthings
18:42.47youtahsomethings
18:42.53youtahand they were asking me if it were true
18:43.07youtahand I was telling them about standard working hours, wages, PTO, etc
18:43.10youtahThey were SHOCKED
18:43.13jfindlaythey asked if you were a representative American everyman?
18:43.14youtahblown away
18:43.38youtah3 weeks of PTO, that includes vacation and sick time.
18:43.43youtah40 hours each week
18:43.52youtah7~9 holidays a year depending on the company
18:44.15BigBen212plus, Americans generally don't even use the vacation they've got
18:44.38youtahYou could see the smoke coming from their ears
18:45.51BigBen212at my old job (during my apprenticeship in Germany) the boss walked around after the new year reminding people that they needed to take their time off before the end of March
18:46.34JPaulthought europeans got gobs of time off though?
18:46.37BigBen212not easy to take 28-30 days off a year sometimes, when your weekends don't even count
18:46.51BigBen212yes, but sometimes it's easy to "forget" :)
18:46.59BigBen212and then the new year comes around and you still have two weeks left
18:47.08BigBen212happened to me all the time
18:47.25youtahYeah, one guy, programmer, was getting $80k USD (rough estimate) and he had about 5 weeks of Vacation, that didn't include sick time, and worked about 25-30 hours a week.
18:47.42youtahand he was "full time"
18:47.45BigBen212so I had a lot of time of in February-March just because I had to and my employer was required to give the time off and remind people
18:47.57JPaulI get two weeks, and with how small we are as a company it's a pita to take it, and I usually end up working during my vacations anyway.
18:47.59BigBen212yes, sick leave is "extra"
18:48.13BigBen212you don't usually even count it. You just call into work and tell them you're sick
18:48.25BigBen212if you don't abuse it, you don't need a doctor's note for up to three days
18:48.43youtahbut then you also have to live in France
18:48.44youtahlol
18:48.58BigBen212haha, tough life, having to live in France, huh ?
18:49.06BigBen212my experience is only Germany
18:49.10youtahI could totally live in the Normandy region
18:49.16youtahOMG IT WAS SO GORGEOUS
18:49.34youtahParis was blah
18:49.40youtahpretty touristy areas
18:49.42BigBen212youtah: honestly though, that's always the case when you go on vacation somewhere
18:49.45youtahbut Normandy was amazing
18:49.54BigBen212guess what Europeans think for example about Southern Utah
18:50.00youtahlol
18:50.01BigBen212it's SO GORGEOUS!
18:50.04youtahthey could live there?
18:50.18RyanEThey're also so shocked that there could be a place with *so few humans*!!!
18:50.28BigBen212right
18:50.37BigBen212e.g. drive between SLC and St George and you don't even see that many cars
18:50.41BigBen212and there are no real cities
18:50.47RyanE"real"
18:50.54RyanEreal enough to people who live there...  :)
18:51.01RyanEbut city is debateable.
18:51.07BigBen212combing from Germany, that was the biggest shock that you could drive hours without massive cities everywhere
18:51.32BigBen212but I guess it's a different story on the East Coast too
18:51.59BigBen212"BLM" ?? What do you mean, the federal government just owns all that land
18:52.16RyanEI work with a Swiss team, and that was their biggest discovery.  How much 'nothing' there is in the West.
18:52.26BigBen212right
18:52.44BigBen212"you mean people can just have their cows walk around BLM land?"
18:54.54JPaulEventually you realize that when someone is selling property and lists it as "horse property" or some variation, really what it means is that it's useless for anything else, not just that it's big enough to keep horses on.
18:55.12RyanEunless it's suburban horse property.
19:04.06JPauleven then
19:04.20JPaulit's usually dry and no irrigation
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19:36.20jfindlaythe Colorado is overtaxed as it is
19:36.27jfindlaynow you're going to add your vanity horses
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20:55.56jfindlayjlp_znc, joshh: since disabling pcie_aspm, I have only had a few network resets, and they were all within a few hours of disabling it
21:27.48jlp_znchmmm, so maybe it was a power management thing turning the card off?  weird.
21:31.08*** join/#utah youtah (~youtah@67.139.187.132)
21:31.08*** mode/#utah [+v youtah] by ChanServ
21:32.32jlp_zncfor some reason, when youtah popped in, I had a sudden memory of the little girl on Jurassic Park saying "it's a uuuuuuunix system"... but in my head, I heard "it's youuuuuuuutah!"
21:43.42jfindlayjlp_znc knows this
21:43.45jfindlaythis == youtah
21:44.00jfindlay~nacho
21:44.00infobotTonight I wrestle the seven strongest men in town, maybe the world.
21:44.08jlp_znc~nacho youtah
21:44.09infobotACTION sprays scalding hot nacho cheese sauce all over youtah
21:44.17jfindlay~trump jlp_znc
21:44.17infobotACTION orange frosts jlp_znc's hair
21:44.26jlp_znc~hillary jfindlay
21:44.27infobotACTION hides a scandal from jfindlay
21:44.50jlp_zncremember how around election time people kept deleting the trump and hillary actions?
21:45.06jlp_zncman, that was annoying.  good thing I had their definitions saved in a file so I could put them back quickly.
21:45.37jfindlaylol
21:45.39jfindlay~lolstats
21:45.44infobottotal count of lol on #utah: 3102.  Top 3: youtah -- 1477 (47.6%), spangborn -- 156 (5.0%), keldwud -- 154 (5.0%)
21:45.44jlp_znclet's see... we're probably going to need one for elizabeth warren
21:45.48jfindlay~bernie youtah
21:45.49infobotACTION makes youtah feel the bern
21:46.04jlp_znc~warren youtah
21:46.07jlp_znchmmm
21:46.26jlp_zncinfobot, warren $n is <action>takes away $n's guns
21:46.26infobotokay, jlp_znc
21:46.31jlp_znc~warren youtah
21:46.31infobotACTION takes away youtah's guns
21:46.42jfindlaynice
21:46.51jlp_zncwe need some more for her, though
21:47.02jlp_zncdoes she even have any other issues that she's passionate about?
21:47.27jfindlay~literal cmd: warren (.*?)
21:47.27infobot"cmd: warren (.*?)" is "($n): <action>takes away $n's guns"
21:48.16jfindlayinfobot: no cmd: warren $n is <action>(takes away $n's guns|tells $n she is part Native American)
21:48.16infobotokay, jfindlay
21:48.30jlp_znchttps://www.politico.com/2020-election/candidates-views-on-the-issues/elizabeth-warren/
21:48.31jfindlaynot really sure beyond that point
21:48.34jlp_zncgood one
21:48.55jfindlayall the democrat starters are interchangeable at this point
21:49.28jlp_zncno, infobot, warren $n is <action(takes away $n's guns|tells $n she is part Native American|raises $n's taxes|raises $n's minimum wage)
21:49.50jlp_zncinfobot, no, cmd: warren $n is <action(takes away $n's guns|tells $n she is part Native American|raises $n's taxes|raises $n's minimum wage)
21:49.50infobotokay, jlp_znc
21:49.56jlp_znc~warren youtah
21:49.56infobotACTION takes away youtah's guns
21:50.06jlp_znc~warren youtah
21:50.06infobotACTION takes away youtah's guns
21:50.10jlp_znchmmm
21:50.10jfindlayinfobot: cmd: biden $n is <action>(forgetfully says something negative about an issue $n cares about)
21:50.10infobot...but cmd: is already something else...
21:50.18jfindlayinfobot: biden $n is <action>(forgetfully says something negative about an issue $n cares about)
21:50.18infobotjfindlay: okay
21:50.31jfindlay~warren jlp_znc
21:50.31infobotACTION takes away jlp_znc's guns
21:50.33jlp_zncwhat was biden before?
21:50.34jfindlaylol
21:50.47jfindlayit wasn't anything
21:50.52jlp_znc08 15:50 <      infobot@> ...but cmd: is already something else...
21:51.02jlp_zncoh
21:51.03jfindlayright, that's infobot being cryptic
21:51.04jlp_zncnm
21:51.08jfindlay~biden jlp_znc
21:51.08infobotACTION (forgetfully says something negative about an issue jlp_znc cares about)
21:51.19jlp_zncdon't need the parens if there is only one
21:51.35jlp_znc~warren jfindlay
21:51.36infobotACTION takes away jfindlay's guns
21:51.43jlp_zncdang, do we have that wrong?
21:52.28jlp_zncinfobot, no, cmd: warren $n is <action(takes away $n's guns|tells $n she is part Native American|raises $n's taxes|pays $n 15 bucks an hour for minimum wage)
21:52.28infobotjlp_znc: okay
21:52.35jlp_znc~warren jfindlay
21:52.35infobotACTION takes away jfindlay's guns
21:52.41jlp_zncokay, it's broken
21:52.44jfindlayinfobot: no cmd: biden $n is <action>(forgetfully says something negative about an issue $n cares about|smiles at $n)
21:52.44infobotjfindlay: okay
21:52.50jfindlay~warren jlp_znc
21:52.51infobotACTION takes away jlp_znc's guns
21:52.55jlp_zncinfobot, forget cmd: warren (.*?)
21:52.56infoboti forgot cmd: warren (.*?), jlp_znc
21:53.08jlp_zncinfobot, warren $n is <action(takes away $n's guns|tells $n she is part Native American|raises $n's taxes|pays $n 15 bucks an hour for minimum wage)
21:53.08infobotjlp_znc: okay
21:53.13jlp_znc~warren jfindlay
21:53.13infobot<actiontakes away jfindlay's guns
21:53.17jlp_znc<PROTECTED>
21:53.20jfindlaysyntax eror
21:53.26jlp_zncinfobot, forget cmd: warren (.*?)
21:53.27infoboti forgot cmd: warren (.*?), jlp_znc
21:53.35jlp_zncinfobot, warren $n is <action>(takes away $n's guns|tells $n she is part Native American|raises $n's taxes|pays $n 15 bucks an hour for minimum wage)
21:53.36infobotjlp_znc: okay
21:53.40jlp_znc~warren jfindlay
21:53.40infobotACTION raises jfindlay's taxes
21:53.41jfindlayinfobot: capitalize personal pronouns
21:53.41infobotACTION turns personal pronouns into a capital letter and sponsors personal pronouns on Sesame Street as the letter of the day.
21:53.45jlp_znchere we go
21:54.13jfindlay~trump jlp_znc
21:54.13infobotACTION sends jlp_znc down an escalator
21:54.18jfindlay~bernie youtah
21:54.19infobotACTION makes youtah feel the bern
21:54.24jlp_znchey, buddy, wanna buy a Q?
21:54.30jfindlay~biden youtah
21:54.30infobotACTION (forgetfully says something negative about an issue youtah cares about)
21:54.45jfindlayinfobot: no cmd: biden $n is <action>(forgetfully says something negative about an issue $n cares about|smiles at $n)
21:54.45infobotjfindlay: i already had it that way
21:54.50jfindlaysrsly
21:55.00jlp_znclose the parens unless you have more than one action
21:55.05jlp_zncinfobot, forget cmd: warren (.*?)
21:55.05infobotjlp_znc: i forgot cmd: warren (.*?)
21:55.17jlp_zncinfobot, warren $n is <action>(takes away $n's guns|tells $n she is part Native American|raises $n's taxes|pays $n 15 bucks an hour for minimum wage|pays for $n's college)
21:55.17infobotokay, jlp_znc
21:55.48jfindlayjlp_znc: there are two commands there
21:56.07jfindlayprobably buggy codez
21:56.26jlp_znckill it with "forget" first, then redo it
21:56.31jlp_zncthat's what I had to do with warren
21:58.07jfindlayyes, but it's below my effort threshold
21:58.21jlp_zncheh
21:58.32jlp_zncinfobot, forget cmd: biden (.*?)
21:58.32infobotjlp_znc: i forgot cmd: biden (.*?)
21:58.50jlp_zncinfobot: biden $n is <action>(forgetfully
21:58.50infobotjlp_znc: okay
21:58.51jlp_znc<PROTECTED>
21:59.03jlp_zncwell, that didn't work
21:59.04jfindlayinfobot: biden $n is <action>(forgetfully says something negative about an issue $n cares about|smiles at $n)
21:59.04infobotACTION (forgetfully
21:59.09jfindlaylol
21:59.13jlp_zncinfobot, forget cmd: biden (.*?)
21:59.13infobotjlp_znc: i forgot cmd: biden (.*?)
21:59.20jfindlay~biden jlp_znc
21:59.42jlp_zncinfobot: biden $n is <action>(forgetfully says something negative about an issue $n cares about|smiles at $n)
21:59.43infobotokay, jlp_znc
21:59.52jlp_znc~biden jfindley
21:59.52infobotACTION smiles at jfindley
21:59.55jfindlay~biden youtah
21:59.55infobotACTION smiles at youtah
22:00.03jlp_znc~biden jlp_znc
22:00.03infobotACTION smiles at jlp_znc
22:00.08jfindlaynow we're talking
22:00.08jlp_znche's a happy boy
22:00.37jlp_znchubba hubba hubba hubba hubba
22:00.52jlp_znchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEZtII8rt_Y
22:01.25jlp_zncit takes a dark turn in the second verse
22:01.39jlp_zncbut the kazoo bridge sells it
22:02.28jfindlay~napoleon
22:02.28infobotJust listen to your heart.  That's what I do.
22:09.10jlp_znchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3_Hqej6kyA  <- this was actually better than I thought it was going to be
22:48.20jfindlay~biden youtah
22:48.20infobotACTION forgetfully says something negative about an issue youtah cares about
22:55.02youtahyo soy un hombre
22:56.23youtahjlp_znc> for some reason, when youtah popped in, I had a sudden memory <<< lol

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