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| 14:00.42 | programmerq | I decided to play with ssh fingerprint records. I found a few guides, and they say that you need to run 'ssh-keygen -r <hostname>' to see what the records should look like. The output of that command seems to be different for the same hostname depending on which host I run it from. |
| 14:01.27 | programmerq | which seems unexpected. I would have guessed that the sshfp records should be the same based on the key in use by the server. |
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| 23:13.16 | youtah | holy crap |
| 23:13.27 | youtah | I did a massive update/update |
| 23:13.33 | youtah | and my localectl settings all got NUKED |
| 23:13.42 | youtah | I couldn't even open a terminal. That was a fun one to fix |
| 23:14.17 | youtah | https://askubuntu.com/questions/1040566/cant-open-terminal-in-ubuntu-18-04-after-upgrade-from-17-10 << This fixed it alright |
| 23:15.38 | jfindlay | youtah: I've had stability issues with 18.04 |
| 23:15.48 | jfindlay | mainly in the lightdm/plymouth area |
| 23:16.29 | youtah | yeah |
| 23:16.37 | youtah | I am hoping they're slowly worked out |
| 23:16.48 | youtah | or quickly, rather |
| 23:16.54 | jfindlay | the amount of bugs I'm seeing with lightdm makes me think they have no QA at all |
| 23:16.57 | youtah | but I'd rather take slowly and more accurately |
| 23:17.05 | youtah | jfindlay, probably |
| 23:17.12 | youtah | people don't appreciate QA anymore it seems |
| 23:17.19 | jfindlay | developers just write in codez and then shipit |
| 23:17.38 | youtah | I have heard of several companies dumping QA departments because "We have CD/CI Now!" |
| 23:17.46 | youtah | uhhhhhhhh, that's not how that works guys |
| 23:18.01 | jfindlay | I've come to appreciate lightdm as a fragile snowflake. Touch a key or bump the mouse at the wrong time and your displays will go dark |
| 23:18.46 | jfindlay | I gave up and installed lxdm, which by itself was fine, but it make plymouth b0rk so bad my computer wouldn't even boot |
| 23:18.47 | jfindlay | srsly |
| 23:18.52 | youtah | I kid you not. I have heard of at least 3 companies (large ones that some people in here work for, so I won't mention their names) that have been dumping QA |
| 23:19.14 | jfindlay | youtah: you just need to advertise that you're their new CI/CD architect |
| 23:19.20 | youtah | makes angry/sad face |
| 23:19.25 | youtah | lol |
| 23:19.34 | jfindlay | ride the wave |
| 23:19.43 | youtah | that is honestly what someone once told me |
| 23:19.49 | jfindlay | if that's the direction the suits decree |
| 23:19.59 | youtah | "By the time they discover the bug, they've fixed it and released the fix!" |
| 23:20.43 | jfindlay | my favorite about the container build/release pipeline is that it doesn't matter how much garbage is crammed into the container because container instances are ephemeral |
| 23:22.55 | jfindlay | if 30% of the container fleet each gobble 256 M in 6 hours, nobigdeal, just decrease your lifetime to < 6h |
| 23:23.16 | jfindlay | disposable code |
| 23:23.21 | jfindlay | compostable code |
| 23:24.40 | youtah | lol |
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| 23:52.00 | youtah | yup |
| 23:52.13 | youtah | 18.04.2 to 18.04.3 has seriously screwed over my machine |
| 23:52.15 | youtah | uhg |
| 23:52.20 | youtah | this is going to take forever to fix |