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| 00:17.57 | jfindlay | ~splunk jlp_znc |
| 00:18.03 | jfindlay | ~jira jlp_znc |
| 00:18.03 | infobot | ACTION contorts jlp_znc's development processes |
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| 15:45.38 | spangborn | lol murray has some stupid laws https://fox13now.com/2019/06/26/murray-woman-charged-after-letting-cat-lay-on-front-lawn/ |
| 15:49.46 | th3ph3d | s/murray/utah |
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| 15:58.14 | JPaul | not so much the law as some dopey neighbor that doesn't like cats. It's one thing to let dogs run loose. Cats are expected to be wandering outside by prob 99% of the population. |
| 15:59.45 | JPaul | "Bring in the dog and put out the cat. Yakety yak (Don't talk back)" |
| 16:03.28 | shalkie | Yeah, but doesn't Provo have a feral cat problem? I understand that they are aggressive and mean ferral cats. |
| 16:11.43 | frostyfrog | youtah: Yeah x3 I have IRC connected at work all the time. Sorry about things. I'm just feeling stressed with things at the moment |
| 17:24.35 | jfindlay | extra frost |
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| 18:37.06 | youtah | FYI |
| 18:37.11 | youtah | Do NOT get an electric scooter |
| 18:37.22 | youtah | that has 250W DC brushless motors, or less power |
| 18:37.35 | youtah | They don't have enough power for the hills here along the wasatch front |
| 18:52.30 | spangborn | I could have told you that |
| 19:35.42 | jfindlay | ~napoleon |
| 19:35.42 | infobot | Just listen to your heart. That's what I do. |
| 19:38.28 | youtah | spangborn, most of the cheap ones I am reading are 150-200 |
| 19:38.37 | youtah | so I was hoping the 250 were enough |
| 19:38.44 | youtah | Segway has a slick one that peaks at 700 |
| 19:38.46 | spangborn | Should have just saved more money and got an electric longboard |
| 19:38.56 | spangborn | The newer Lime/Bird ones are segway |
| 19:38.59 | youtah | and kill myself? |
| 19:39.16 | youtah | at least I have something to hold onto when I died with a scooter |
| 19:39.22 | youtah | some sort of false sense of control |
| 19:39.32 | spangborn | hold my beer |
| 19:39.46 | spangborn | Has the pivot point on your handlebars broken yet? |
| 19:39.51 | youtah | Nope |
| 19:39.55 | spangborn | Because Bird had to make their own replacement for that part lol |
| 19:40.10 | spangborn | They machined a permanent bracket to hold it |
| 19:40.11 | youtah | apparently they had a recall on the older ones |
| 19:40.41 | youtah | the benefits of buying 2 years after they release |
| 19:40.44 | youtah | let them work the kinks out |
| 19:41.45 | spangborn | Did you try the exploit against it yet? |
| 19:42.27 | spangborn | https://github.com/rani-i/Mi365Locker |
| 19:44.43 | spangborn | https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/31/18042270/lime-segway-ninebot-scooters-battery-fires |
| 19:44.45 | spangborn | lol |
| 19:45.32 | youtah | Yeah, first thing it did was have me upgrade my firmware for a security fix |
| 19:45.36 | youtah | I am guessing it's that one |
| 20:11.42 | spangborn | youtah: just buy an electric motorcycle |
| 20:52.24 | youtah | noe |
| 20:52.26 | youtah | nope |
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| 22:30.10 | youtah | throw crontab through the window |
| 22:40.25 | youtah | okay |
| 22:40.29 | youtah | question for you all |
| 22:40.33 | youtah | you crontab gurus |
| 22:40.52 | youtah | is ashamed to ask such a newb question |
| 22:41.26 | youtah | Say you add happy.sh to execute using `crontab -e` |
| 22:41.39 | youtah | and you added that while logged in as the user BOB |
| 22:41.59 | youtah | does that cronjob execute with in it's own environment? or does it inherit/use BOB's? |
| 22:42.09 | youtah | example: $PATH $HOME, etc |
| 22:42.28 | youtah | I am finding I have extra directories in my $PATH for user BOB |
| 22:42.33 | youtah | that are missing for my cronjob |
| 22:42.49 | youtah | </end of question> |
| 22:43.09 | shalkie | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:43.22 | youtah | it was a hidden element? |
| 22:43.31 | shalkie | Tricky. :-) |
| 22:43.35 | youtah | lol |
| 22:43.58 | shalkie | It should use BOB's. |
| 22:44.11 | youtah | That is what I thought |
| 22:44.22 | youtah | apparently that isn't what it's doing |
| 22:44.33 | youtah | throws chair through BOB's window. |
| 22:45.50 | shalkie | what version of cron is it? |
| 22:46.14 | youtah | whatever crontab -e uses on Ubuntu 18.04.02 LTS |
| 22:46.19 | youtah | lemme look |
| 22:46.23 | youtah | I mean |
| 22:46.28 | youtah | I have a hacky work around doing this |
| 22:46.34 | youtah | if [ -d "$HOME/.local/bin" ] ; then |
| 22:46.34 | youtah | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:46.34 | youtah | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:46.34 | youtah | fi |
| 22:47.56 | youtah | which has fixed it |
| 22:48.05 | youtah | but I want to understand why |
| 22:53.50 | youtah | spangborn, you can pre-order your Bird https://shop.bird.co/ |
| 22:53.58 | asoc | Where is the PATH getting set to have the $HOME/.local/bin in it? |
| 22:54.23 | youtah | for user BOB it was added when it installed some python modules |
| 22:54.28 | asoc | If that is set in a .bashrc or something it might not get picked up. |
| 22:54.49 | youtah | I am guessing through PIP? I dunno |
| 22:56.59 | shalkie | So first I would like to point out that traditionally you can set env variables in the crontab. |
| 22:57.59 | youtah | yeah |
| 22:58.17 | youtah | I am setting this up on multiple machines, so I am trying to be as lazy as possible |
| 22:58.23 | youtah | so I am just doing it in the script, lol |
| 22:58.26 | shalkie | For good reason. :) |
| 22:58.34 | shalkie | Being lazy that is. |
| 22:58.39 | youtah | lol |
| 22:59.19 | shalkie | I haven't played with Ubuntu in ages. |
| 22:59.52 | youtah | jlp_znc knows everything. I hope he replies |
| 22:59.53 | youtah | lol |
| 23:21.42 | jfindlay | I thought cron uses a very limited environment |
| 23:22.00 | youtah | jfindlay that aligns with my recent discovery |
| 23:23.14 | jfindlay | you have to add env vars explicitly. Even PATH is something simple like '/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/sbin', for example |
| 23:24.06 | jfindlay | when using cron, I try to make the top level logic as simple as possible so that you can maintain a simple crontab |
| 23:24.23 | jfindlay | leave stuff like environment management to the script itself |
| 23:24.30 | jfindlay | or use a real language like python |
| 23:24.52 | shalkie | So looking at it Ubuntu 18.04 is using the Debian version of Vixie cron. There are two locations in PAM that it loads environment variables when executing, other then that set it in crontab or as part of the script, which it sounds like you are already doing. |
| 23:25.59 | shalkie | I hope that helps youtah . |
| 23:26.03 | shalkie | ~summon jlp_znc |
| 23:26.03 | infobot | apt takes out 20 clean, identical-looking phones, some extra hands, and pretends to be a telemarketer for a large corporation, so he gets delivered a phonelist containing jlp_znc's coordinates |
| 23:26.13 | shalkie | Just for extra help. :) |
| 23:39.40 | spangborn | Why would I do that? I have four bikes |