| 00:04.42 | JPaul | my last two car loans have been through them due to the rates, been pretty good to work with in that regards. |
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| 03:09.52 | JPaul | sometimes it feels like talking to a dev about their testing they supposedly did is like talking to a politician... |
| 03:10.17 | JPaul | they tell you what you want to hear but it's ultimately all lies. |
| 03:14.35 | klys | ~slashdot |
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| 18:05.57 | goozbach | morninoon |
| 18:24.13 | youtah | hey eightyeight |
| 18:24.19 | youtah | sounds like you have a story to tell us |
| 18:24.25 | youtah | re: Ars Technica |
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| 18:27.13 | goozbach | aroo? |
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| 18:32.30 | eightyeight | I'll get back to you about that in a bit. It's in regards to https://twitter.com/AaronToponce/status/1131580442128240640 |
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| 18:33.59 | youtah | heh |
| 18:34.03 | youtah | at least they responded |
| 18:34.13 | goozbach | properly at that |
| 18:34.19 | goozbach | not doubling down on crap |
| 18:34.23 | youtah | https://twitter.com/rmondello/status/1131591215281917954 |
| 18:34.26 | youtah | agreed |
| 18:35.07 | youtah | remember eightyeight .... goozbach always makes an excellent scapegoat during interviews |
| 18:35.16 | goozbach | aroo? |
| 18:35.24 | jfindlay | ttps://twitter.com/jmoney/status/2394587263495872359487254 |
| 18:35.57 | youtah | doesn't exist |
| 18:36.26 | jfindlay | youtah: but I'm just playing the URL game like everyone else |
| 18:36.49 | youtah | lol |
| 18:40.40 | jfindlay | youtah: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algebraic_topology |
| 18:40.47 | jfindlay | there's an URL |
| 18:41.00 | youtah | I oppose that URL |
| 18:41.24 | youtah | I don't believe we should be teaching Arabic Numerals in class. Use English, this is America. |
| 18:51.04 | jfindlay | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Descriptive_set_theory |
| 18:52.43 | youtah | (that was a joke btw jfindlay) |
| 18:53.09 | jfindlay | ~wiki joke |
| 18:53.25 | youtah | Can we call them "Freedom Numbers" kind of like "Freedom Fries"? |
| 18:53.41 | jfindlay | ~horse joke |
| 18:53.41 | infobot | http://joke.horse/ |
| 18:54.50 | joshh | wasn't there an article the other day about someone being pissed about arabic in a school? |
| 18:55.06 | youtah | yeah |
| 18:55.17 | jfindlay | ~trump arabic numerals |
| 18:55.17 | infobot | ACTION tells arabic numerals what they want to hear |
| 18:55.34 | youtah | Something like 72% of Republicans polled in the US don't think Arabic Numerals should be taught in US Schools |
| 18:55.37 | joshh | ive never understood people who have a hard time realizing that america's diversity is normal and how it's always been |
| 18:55.50 | joshh | and that it doesn't have an actual official language |
| 18:55.59 | joshh | usually they are the same people who spell border as boarder though |
| 18:56.29 | joshh | and have much lower english skills than many immigrants |
| 18:56.34 | youtah | and the same guys that don't see the problem with this: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-21/federal-wall-funding-of-1-57-billion-yields-1-7-miles-of-fence |
| 18:58.04 | youtah | $171,568.62 per foot |
| 18:58.24 | youtah | Only 1,952 more miles to go |
| 18:58.50 | joshh | but we cannot afford communist healthcare of course, that would just make us bankrupt |
| 18:59.32 | youtah | lol |
| 19:23.41 | eightyeight | youtah: ok. let's chat |
| 19:24.28 | eightyeight | so, i pushed out that tweet this morning, and after dr. green retweeted it, it gained momentum, and dan goodin of ars technica caught wind, and reached out to me on twitter dm asking if i was open to discussing it on the phone |
| 19:24.56 | eightyeight | so, he called me, and i explained how i stumbled onto it, it's ramifications, best practice, how it relates to ios and macos, etc |
| 19:25.32 | eightyeight | i shared with him that this wasn't a "world of fire" scenario, but more "you really should know better apple" scenario |
| 19:25.40 | eightyeight | so thankfully, he decided not to run with his story |
| 19:42.28 | youtah | ah |
| 19:42.51 | youtah | It was nice to see the Apple dev reach out so quickly though |
| 19:44.07 | eightyeight | i follow ricky. he's good people. |
| 19:45.33 | youtah | changes subject |
| 19:45.58 | youtah | I am kind of impressed with this RawTherapee 5.5 (FOSS) for editing raw files on Ubuntu |
| 19:46.16 | eightyeight | why? |
| 19:46.40 | youtah | I like the layout of the sliders. I also love the functionality in the histogram |
| 19:46.58 | youtah | I can hover over the image with my mouse and it tells me where that data is located in the histogram |
| 19:47.12 | youtah | which is actually SUPER useful when I am going to use the tone curves tool |
| 19:47.55 | youtah | it also helped me target the green hue/tint from shooting through a glass window and eliminate it faster than most programs |
| 19:48.03 | eightyeight | nice |
| 19:48.19 | youtah | There are a lot of features it doesn't have, that Lightroom does |
| 19:48.51 | youtah | like luminance based masking with in a graduated filter |
| 19:49.17 | youtah | That's so powerful in LR, I feel like it's almost cheating |
| 19:55.25 | joshh | its amazing how twitter is so great at connecting tech workers with user reports, and other useful scenarios like that, but also so full of garbage |
| 19:56.49 | eightyeight | the SNR is what you make of it |
| 19:57.17 | joshh | that is true |
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| 20:04.39 | BigBen212 | so, how bout that weather :) |
| 20:04.48 | youtah | digicam seems like a good replacement for photomechanic in Linux too |
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| 20:05.05 | youtah | BigBen212 I just took an amazing photo of the rain coming down |
| 20:05.35 | BigBen212 | youtah, stop taking so many photos and just enjoy the moment, haha |
| 20:06.16 | romanovic | this weather has put me in the mood to start Twin Peaks from the beginning |
| 20:06.31 | romanovic | started last night |
| 20:08.04 | BigBen212 | the only time weather gets me in the mood for a certain movie, it's Fargo in the winter |
| 20:08.22 | BigBen212 | all the other things I watch are not really weather-related |
| 20:08.39 | BigBen212 | or they are weather-related, but my desire to watch them isn't weather-influenced |
| 20:09.07 | BigBen212 | but I never watched Twin Peaks, so who knows |
| 20:16.27 | youtah | BigBen212, if I have my camera out and ready, then I know I was supposed to photograph that moment. If I forget, or my card is full, or the battery is dead, or I don't have it with me, then I know that moment was for me and me only. |
| 20:17.15 | jfindlay | youtah: I got the $500 nikon from costco |
| 20:17.34 | jfindlay | it was $400 the day I got it. 'one day only!1' |
| 20:17.47 | jfindlay | it can take pictures |
| 20:17.55 | BigBen212 | youtah: that's a very nice view of it |
| 20:18.56 | jfindlay | it has straps |
| 20:19.05 | jfindlay | I've learned that camera users like straps |
| 20:19.12 | jfindlay | straps on everything |
| 20:21.15 | youtah | lol |
| 20:21.17 | youtah | which one? |
| 20:21.29 | youtah | BigBen212, https://twitter.com/youtah/status/1131656277359153152 |
| 20:21.59 | jfindlay | nikon, $500, takes pictures |
| 20:22.00 | braxtron | i m sleepy |
| 20:22.02 | BigBen212 | westbound. That's where I live :) |
| 20:22.03 | jfindlay | that's all I've got |
| 20:22.07 | youtah | lol |
| 20:22.16 | youtah | The Nikon $500 is a nice model |
| 20:22.26 | BigBen212 | my wife works right near Bacchus Hwy. Ice coming down there |
| 20:22.26 | jfindlay | well, the pictures are not blurry, so that's an improvement |
| 20:23.11 | jfindlay | it knows how to adjust the optical pipeline so that the focal plane corresponds with the QCD plane |
| 20:24.53 | jfindlay | or focal surface, I should rather say, but it's probably wavelength-dependent and normally distributed according to thermally chaotic and quantum uncertainty of the media and mechanical fixtures |
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| 20:28.19 | joshh | oh ya, that model |
| 20:31.31 | joshh | my wife got the 1500 dollar nikon at costco a while ago, and it seems great and all, but the reality is almost every amazing pic she takes with it is only viewed by people for about 1.3 seconds on a phone screen |
| 20:32.00 | spangborn | Should have gotten the $2000 model |
| 20:32.03 | joshh | photography quality has gone up while displays have gotten smaller |
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| 20:32.11 | joshh | and people's attention spans have vanished |
| 20:32.39 | RyanE | I'd appreciate it more if their model numbers were exactly that. Oh, you have the "Nikon $500"? |
| 20:32.50 | RyanE | but how much did you pay for it? :{ |
| 20:33.00 | spangborn | It's depreciated to the Nikon $469 now |
| 20:33.47 | RyanE | I got the Android $300ish |
| 20:33.56 | RyanE | I guess it's the Samsung $300ish |
| 20:39.26 | joshh | basically ya, phones are good enough for anything outside a huge print in an art gallery |
| 20:39.37 | joshh | unless you need a good zoom lens or something |
| 20:41.15 | joshh | maybe for some pics where people are looking at detail and noticing how accurate colors are and all that |
| 20:41.21 | joshh | but that's not 99% of photos |
| 20:55.34 | jfindlay | you can get an addon lens for your phone camera on ebay for $5 that will take pictures of bald eagles in the woods at 500x zoom with perfect focus |
| 20:57.19 | jfindlay | but only if you're holding an American flag in your other hand |
| 20:58.39 | youtah | I only get the Nikon $5600 |
| 20:58.53 | youtah | They don't have those at Costco |
| 20:59.23 | youtah | blows hot air on his knuckles and wipes it on briskly on his shirt with a smirk |
| 20:59.25 | jfindlay | how many bald eagles can it take pictures of? |
| 20:59.32 | youtah | 42 |
| 20:59.35 | jfindlay | wow |
| 20:59.45 | youtah | lol |
| 21:00.04 | jfindlay | that's like a whole flock |
| 21:00.27 | youtah | Great for photographing a whole smack of Jelly Fish too |
| 21:06.27 | RyanE | youtah: those aren't Jelly Fish, they're Swedish Fish. |
| 21:10.57 | spangborn | ~lart youtah |
| 21:10.57 | infobot | does a little 'dpkg -P youtah' action |
| 21:11.02 | spangborn | harsh |
| 21:17.07 | jlp_znc | ~middleman |
| 21:17.07 | infobot | My Little Pony! |
| 21:20.11 | youtah | spangborn -vvvvv moo |
| 21:20.22 | spangborn | ~moo |
| 21:20.22 | infobot | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 21:20.33 | youtah | apt-get moo |
| 21:20.38 | jfindlay | nooo |
| 21:20.41 | youtah | lol |
| 21:20.45 | jfindlay | ~napoleon jlp_znc |
| 21:20.45 | infobot | ACTION takes jlp_znc's girlfriend to the mall for glamor shots |
| 21:20.49 | youtah | I just read spangborn's after I typed mine |
| 21:21.02 | youtah | impeccably poor timing |
| 21:21.35 | spangborn | ur a cow now |
| 21:21.52 | youtah | types aptitude moo; aptitude -v moo; aptitude -vv moo; aptitude -vvv moo; aptitude -vvvv moo; aptitude -vvvvv moo; |
| 21:22.20 | youtah | aptitude -vvvvvv moo; |
| 21:37.10 | jlp_znc | https://www.ksl.com/?nid=978 |
| 21:37.34 | jlp_znc | Price - San Rafael: 2557% of normal ! |
| 21:37.48 | jfindlay | so yesterday I needed to copy a value from a vmware interface, but because it was flash, I couldn't just select the text and copy it |
| 21:38.17 | jfindlay | so I took a screenshot and then used OCR to extract the characters |
| 21:38.25 | jfindlay | another vmware win |
| 21:38.36 | jlp_znc | ugh |
| 21:39.31 | jfindlay | jlp_znc: have you ever been to Price? There is so little precip there that any storm is going to look like a delta function in the timeseries |
| 21:43.45 | jlp_znc | I have been to Price. My wife's uncle is burried in Huntington. Yes, I realize that percentages of normal can be misleading, but still. |
| 21:49.18 | jlp_znc | https://medium.com/coinmonks/the-most-expensive-lesson-of-my-life-details-of-sim-port-hack-35de11517124 |
| 21:52.29 | keldwud | price is scary |
| 21:55.26 | spangborn | keldwud is scary |
| 21:55.43 | keldwud | it's true |
| 21:56.11 | jsmith | jfindlay: Don't you know that modern VMWare also has an HTML5 UI? |
| 21:56.22 | jsmith | jfindlay: (Don't ask me how I know -- I actively avoid VMWare) |
| 21:57.09 | youtah | So moist |
| 21:57.46 | keldwud | moist like nachos? |
| 21:57.48 | jsmith | youtah: Those words are almost never appropriate to say in a public forum... unless you're talking about hot brownies just out of the oven... |
| 21:57.59 | keldwud | I love the word moist |
| 21:58.10 | keldwud | I use it to describe music that's bouncy and juicy |
| 21:58.27 | keldwud | moist is the new "bad" |
| 21:58.28 | joshh | i don't get the people who hate the word moist |
| 21:58.34 | joshh | what happened there |
| 21:58.41 | keldwud | I bet they're like people who hate cilantro |
| 21:58.46 | keldwud | they have a gene that makes them hate the word |
| 21:59.06 | joshh | hating cilantro should be a crime |
| 21:59.07 | keldwud | so every time they hear it, their bodies feel like mine does whenever anyone rubs cotton or styrofoam |
| 21:59.15 | keldwud | joshh but it's genetic! |
| 21:59.16 | joshh | they obviously have inferior genes |
| 21:59.20 | youtah | jsmith seriously though |
| 21:59.21 | joshh | get them out of the pool |
| 21:59.21 | keldwud | oh no |
| 21:59.24 | youtah | incredibly moist |
| 21:59.34 | RyanE | their brains are moist |
| 21:59.38 | keldwud | joshh I'm staying away from that one :) |
| 21:59.42 | youtah | I can feel how moist it is on my skin |
| 22:00.11 | youtah | btw, I love moist, hate cilantro |
| 22:00.25 | spangborn | blasphemy |
| 22:00.28 | youtah | cilantro's for people who hate freedom and bacon |
| 22:00.39 | keldwud | omg, is *that* why I love cilantro? |
| 22:00.44 | youtah | lol |
| 22:00.46 | keldwud | can I love moist cilantro? |
| 22:00.50 | joshh | i love cilantro wrapped bacon on july 4th |
| 22:00.51 | youtah | yes |
| 22:00.52 | keldwud | what does it make me if I love moist cilantro? |
| 22:01.01 | youtah | you hate dry freedom? |
| 22:01.45 | keldwud | or maybe I love wet freedom? |
| 22:01.53 | youtah | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8eL_DB-xBo |
| 22:01.57 | youtah | THat is wet freedom |
| 22:02.00 | youtah | err |
| 22:02.02 | youtah | Moist freedom |
| 22:02.13 | spangborn | ur the worst |
| 22:03.06 | RyanE | I guess we should stop praying for moisture. |
| 22:06.31 | keldwud | RyanE only brownies should have moisture |
| 22:06.38 | keldwud | hot moist brownies |
| 22:06.57 | youtah | RyanE's praying for brownies? |
| 22:09.02 | RyanE | no, but a nice moist Ribeye would hit the spot. |
| 22:09.53 | spangborn | damp |
| 22:19.38 | youtah | that's so dark and cold |
| 22:19.50 | youtah | moist is very freeing and full of warmth |
| 22:21.22 | keldwud | https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/03/this-is-why-you-probably-hate-the-word-moist-according-to-scienc/ |
| 22:21.36 | keldwud | current running theory is because it relates to bodily functions and fluids |
| 22:21.43 | keldwud | which most people have an aversion to |
| 22:21.46 | youtah | ^ this |
| 22:22.11 | keldwud | I'd like to see how the word stands up across areas where women are viewed as equal compared with areas where women are viewed as lower status |
| 22:22.29 | keldwud | I'd be willing to wager that the word moist is more hated in areas where women are viewed as lower class |
| 22:22.37 | keldwud | but I don't have any data to back it up |
| 22:22.42 | keldwud | pure speculation |
| 22:23.24 | keldwud | plus it would be hard to control for because it would only work in countries where english is spoken as one of the major languages |
| 22:32.00 | jfindlay | jsmith: I'm stuck on an ancient version |
| 22:32.24 | youtah | an ancient version of moist? |
| 22:32.35 | jfindlay | youtah: no cilantro |
| 22:32.40 | youtah | lol |
| 22:33.10 | jfindlay | but we should be calling it freedom herb |
| 22:33.26 | youtah | *slow clap* |
| 22:33.34 | jfindlay | :-) |
| 22:35.55 | jfindlay | jlp_znc: sometimes 'enterprise' means some seriously awesome features, like the ability to live migrate a VM from one host to another, but I'm sure that's commodity by now |
| 22:36.56 | jfindlay | other times it means flagrantly stubbornly stupid UI |
| 22:36.59 | joshh | these days you aren't supposed to need to care about a vm host, or even vms, and "enterprise" means old fashioned environments where you still do |
| 22:37.05 | jfindlay | or bust0red functionality |
| 22:37.13 | joshh | that and expensive |
| 22:38.01 | jfindlay | some corps still run their own hardware |
| 22:38.28 | joshh | yep, stodgy enterprises |
| 22:38.55 | joshh | you can do cool stuff on hardware too though of course |
| 22:39.18 | joshh | just means you need to get the hardware working first |
| 22:51.27 | shalkie | youtah: Do you do any self hosting of images or is it all through smugmug? I am wondering about a good app for hosting photo content. |
| 22:52.48 | shalkie | A photo safari out to Angkor Wat and Bayon are on my bucket list. |
| 23:01.26 | youtah | shalkie, I have yet to find one. And I LOATHE how wordpress handles images |
| 23:01.41 | youtah | I also use 500px.com, Flickr, Instagram and Facebook |
| 23:01.55 | youtah | and of course, my favorite, Twitter |