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| 00:31.36 | klys | alas, the firewall policy here is rather severe. |
| 00:31.42 | klys | ~slashdot |
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| 02:54.31 | TodPunk | eightyeight: He seemed fine? It was while we were both walking out of the meetup. I spent most of my time wondering where I remembered the name "Stuart Jansen" from |
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| 03:52.12 | sjansen | ~rlart |
| 03:52.12 | infobot | keeps mailing ByronJohnson free America Online CDs until he drowns |
| 04:24.12 | shalkie | We've been sjansen'd |
| 04:56.39 | TodPunk | And now his time is reset |
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| 14:12.34 | eightyeight | and i missed him. :( |
| 14:12.46 | eightyeight | ~lart sjansen |
| 14:12.46 | infobot | turns sjansen into a lifesized tux doll |
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| 15:43.13 | goozbach | howdy |
| 15:43.51 | goozbach | tensai a jerk? |
| 16:06.30 | keldwud | have any of you ever used iTop? https://www.combodo.com/itop-193 |
| 16:10.29 | youtah | https://www.theonion.com/report-chinese-third-graders-falling-behind-u-s-high-1819574614 |
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| 16:44.36 | youtah | How cool would it be if you could use your GPG keys to verify your authenticity within Signal |
| 16:44.41 | youtah | still trying to figure out how that would work |
| 16:44.46 | youtah | but still would be cool |
| 16:45.19 | youtah | and eightyeight ... OMG, the Facebook passwords post |
| 16:45.28 | eightyeight | right? |
| 16:47.01 | youtah | So 2012-2019 the passwords were stored in plain text? |
| 16:47.31 | eightyeight | yup |
| 16:48.04 | eightyeight | up to 600 million worth |
| 16:48.23 | jlp_znc | what? |
| 16:48.27 | eightyeight | "The issue impacted âhundreds of millions of Facebook Lite users, tens of millions of other Facebook users, and tens of thousands of Instagram users,â" |
| 16:48.34 | eightyeight | https://www.theverge.com/2019/3/21/18275837/facebook-plain-text-password-storage-hundreds-millions-users |
| 16:49.16 | jlp_znc | oh. my. god. |
| 16:49.27 | jlp_znc | what the hell, zuck? |
| 16:49.51 | keldwud | wait shit, I'm using facebook messenger lite |
| 16:50.06 | keldwud | good thing I use a different password and email address for every site |
| 16:50.50 | keldwud | so 599 million people just had their bank accounts compromised is how I read that |
| 16:51.10 | keldwud | since everyone uses the same password for their banks *and* facebook |
| 16:51.26 | keldwud | dude, that's twice the population of the U.S. |
| 16:51.38 | eightyeight | but the passwords weren't exposed out of the facebook network |
| 16:51.55 | BigBen212 | and I thought I could trust Facebook with my secrets. |
| 16:51.55 | eightyeight | granted, disgruntled FB employees could use them to their advantage |
| 16:52.10 | youtah | "there's no evidence that plain text passwords were exposed outside of the company" |
| 16:52.16 | youtah | Yeah, they didn't NEED to be exposed |
| 16:52.25 | youtah | they already were to 20,000 employees! |
| 16:52.40 | youtah | <jlp_znc> oh. my. god. <<< ROFLOLOLOLOLLLLLLLLLLLL |
| 16:54.25 | youtah | eightyeight, I am trying to convince jlp_znc he needs Signal for his phone/desktop |
| 16:54.49 | eightyeight | jlp_znc: all the kool kats are doing it! |
| 16:58.56 | jlp_znc | qu'est que c'est "Signal" |
| 17:00.02 | jlp_znc | everlast releases a "lined" (instead of dot grid) notebook "for a limited time" |
| 17:00.16 | jlp_znc | s/everlast/rocketbook/ |
| 17:01.52 | keldwud | wait I can signal on my desktop? |
| 17:02.07 | eightyeight | indeed |
| 17:02.07 | keldwud | oh yeah I forgot I installed the desktop ap |
| 17:02.14 | keldwud | SWEET |
| 17:02.20 | youtah | and link it to your phone |
| 17:02.30 | eightyeight | ~napoleon keldwud |
| 17:02.31 | infobot | ACTION takes keldwud's girlfriend to the mall for glamor shots |
| 17:02.33 | youtah | so I can send/receive text messages through my phone on my Desktop |
| 17:02.34 | keldwud | when I ported my google voice over to google fi, I was all upset that I could no longer SMS via browser |
| 17:02.37 | keldwud | or via desktop |
| 17:02.43 | keldwud | now I can still do that since i'm using signal anyway |
| 17:02.49 | eightyeight | you still can |
| 17:02.59 | eightyeight | https://messages.android.com |
| 17:04.29 | SunSparc | Apple has been doing that for years. |
| 17:04.40 | SunSparc | ~troll |
| 17:04.40 | infobot | rumour has it, troll is webossucks |
| 17:05.06 | eightyeight | speaking of sjansen, i remember when he was a webos fanboy. :) |
| 17:05.34 | keldwud | oh shit, I remember WebOS |
| 17:05.38 | keldwud | I thought that thing was cool |
| 17:05.44 | keldwud | wasn't that one of the first 64 bit OSes? |
| 17:06.15 | keldwud | or am I confusing it with something else? |
| 17:06.30 | eightyeight | i think you're confusing it with something else |
| 17:06.32 | jfindlay | ~seen tensai |
| 17:06.35 | infobot | tensai <~tensai@67-60-91-253.cpe.cableone.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 398d 19h 40m 47s ago, saying: 'oh, he knows what he did'. |
| 17:06.37 | eightyeight | 64-bit linux has been around for ages |
| 17:07.29 | keldwud | oh webos was palm |
| 17:07.36 | keldwud | ok yeah I was remembering something else |
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| 17:09.15 | goozbach | I think that tensai quote is in reference to me |
| 17:09.29 | goozbach | eightyeight: we still need to do our full vault rekey |
| 17:09.36 | goozbach | you still wanna come observe? |
| 17:10.08 | eightyeight | oh yeah |
| 17:10.11 | keldwud | ok I think I was thinking about BeOS |
| 17:10.39 | eightyeight | beos. those were good (and short) days |
| 17:11.05 | keldwud | wasn't it one of the first 64 bit desktop OSes? |
| 17:11.22 | keldwud | "modular I/O bandwidth, pervasive multithreading, preemptive multitasking and a 64-bit journaling file system" |
| 17:11.30 | keldwud | where everything was 64 bit |
| 17:11.34 | keldwud | not just pieces of it |
| 17:11.59 | eightyeight | possibly. i know Big Iron unix has had 64-bit prior to 1995, but probably not by long |
| 17:12.37 | keldwud | beos was 91 looksl ike |
| 17:12.45 | keldwud | oh wait |
| 17:12.45 | keldwud | no |
| 17:12.53 | keldwud | 1995 to public |
| 17:13.13 | eightyeight | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/64-bit_computing#64-bit_operating_system_timeline |
| 17:13.54 | jlp_znc | I think MIPS and DEC Alpha were 64-bit in the early 90s |
| 17:13.56 | keldwud | ok maybe this is why I got WebOS and BeOS confused: "In 2001 Be's copyrights were sold to Palm, Inc." |
| 17:14.20 | keldwud | eightyeight beos isn't even listed in there |
| 17:14.24 | keldwud | hmm |
| 17:14.35 | eightyeight | i don't think it was a full 64-bit kernel |
| 17:14.53 | eightyeight | it supported a 64-bit filesystem though |
| 17:15.11 | eightyeight | but it ran ot IA-32 and PowerPC, both 32-bit hardware |
| 17:15.15 | eightyeight | s/ot/on/ |
| 17:15.37 | keldwud | yeah I was probably just conflating the filesystem with the whole OS |
| 17:17.35 | jlp_znc | I'm pretty sure the MIPS R4000 based machines we had at BYU in the early 90s ran a 64-bit OS... RISC/os |
| 17:17.56 | keldwud | omg my dad has access to some of those I think |
| 17:18.01 | jlp_znc | we had an M-120 (hamblin) and an RS2030 (powell) |
| 17:18.25 | jlp_znc | and another RS2030 with a workstation-style monitor on it (noether) |
| 17:18.45 | keldwud | byu has a bunch of legacy devices that communicate over ipx/spx so he legit had a business case for Doom because doom supported ipx/spx and he'd use that to do network testing |
| 17:18.47 | keldwud | lol |
| 17:18.58 | jlp_znc | heh |
| 17:19.12 | keldwud | I mean, where else are you gonna get an ipx/spx network stack? |
| 17:20.48 | jlp_znc | heck, I remember porting IRC to the RISC/os |
| 17:22.49 | eightyeight | apropos: http://qdb.us/57267 |
| 17:24.40 | keldwud | what was that old byu board |
| 17:24.44 | keldwud | I forget what it was called |
| 17:24.52 | keldwud | but they ran a copy of rogue |
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| 17:36.16 | keldwud | wildcat or something? |
| 17:36.44 | SunSparc | eightyeight: That is awesome! I wish my boss was a gamer. :D |
| 17:36.47 | jlp_znc | is the uug still alive at BYU? |
| 17:37.02 | SunSparc | Speaking of gaming, anyone ever try Habitica? https://habitica.com/ |
| 17:37.47 | keldwud | SunSparc I installed it a couple times but never really ended up using it |
| 17:37.56 | keldwud | so either I failed as a user or they failed at getting me to engage |
| 17:38.00 | keldwud | or a little bit of both |
| 17:38.57 | SunSparc | I have been using it for about 4 months now, and apparently gaming really motivates me because I have been making goals and habits and actually doing a much better job of keeping them. |
| 17:39.03 | SunSparc | is surprised |
| 17:59.09 | jfindlay | jlp_znc: that was my first user group; even though I was never a BYU student: I was really nervous to go |
| 18:01.07 | jlp_znc | I was never a byu student, either... but I was a byu employee. I think I went to uug once or maybe twice. |
| 18:01.30 | jfindlay | emcnabb was the president back then. We all thought he was a big deal for standing up against the feckless guidelines created by BYU's student group org |
| 18:01.44 | jfindlay | like clubs were supposed to be all about knitting hats |
| 18:01.48 | jlp_znc | heh |
| 18:03.36 | SunSparc | Knitted Unix Hats... |
| 18:12.14 | keldwud | KUHug |
| 18:12.24 | SunSparc | :) |
| 18:17.51 | spangborn | steals youtahâs unencrypted Facebook password |
| 18:18.58 | SunSparc | spangborn: Tell us what it is. |
| 18:19.20 | spangborn | spangborn!stheb3st |
| 18:19.38 | SunSparc | lol |
| 18:20.38 | SunSparc | I was guessing it was: fotoG0D |
| 18:21.10 | jlp_znc | I thought it was hunter2 |
| 18:24.31 | jfindlay | all I see is ****** |
| 18:26.14 | SunSparc | has thought of using all stars for his password... |
| 18:34.34 | goozbach | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pU8-7BX9uxs&feature=youtu.be |
| 18:37.18 | th3ph3d | ········ |
| 18:40.11 | joshh | goozbach: not him either. though to be clear the person wasn't an actual bad jerk, just very caring about ipv6 |
| 18:41.42 | goozbach | how many unicode stars are there? |
| 18:44.09 | jfindlay | as many as the sands of the unicode seas |
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| 19:31.08 | youtah | hunter2 |
| 19:31.57 | youtah | Do you guys remember Turok: the Dinosaur Hunter game? |
| 19:32.05 | youtah | Wow, haven't thought about that game in YEARS |
| 19:32.26 | youtah | for Nintendo 64 |
| 19:32.55 | joshh | i do recall it, but didn't play it too much |
| 19:34.22 | youtah | Exploding arrows |
| 19:35.26 | eightyeight | goozbach: http://xahlee.info/comp/unicode_stars.html |
| 19:41.32 | emcnabb | jfindlay, ah, the good old days |
| 19:42.15 | jfindlay | lol |
| 19:43.50 | jfindlay | I'm sure you can still go back to the Wilkinson Center lobby and knit hats |
| 20:04.14 | goozbach | who would be interested in a lunch-and-learn meeting somewhere in southern/mid salt lake valley? |
| 20:04.24 | goozbach | once a month |
| 20:04.35 | goozbach | I'd like to find companies to sponsor lunch too... |
| 20:04.47 | goozbach | adobe, xmission, bluehost, others? |
| 20:31.28 | keldwud | youtah Turok gets some attention on twitch every now and again |
| 20:31.34 | keldwud | I've seen several people play it |
| 20:39.53 | joshh | speaking of dinosaur games, my kid plays one called ARK on ps4 (but multiplatform i think) which is pretty amazing in some ways |
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| 20:40.56 | jlp_znc | goozbach: what are we learning while we are lunching? |
| 20:41.20 | goozbach | whateves think lunchtime PLUG meeting |
| 20:42.47 | keldwud | oh wait, if it's the PLUG then why salt lake valley and not utah valley? |
| 20:43.15 | joshh | salt lake has better food |
| 20:43.33 | goozbach | keldwud: cause sllug hasn't held a meeting in AGES |
| 20:43.35 | goozbach | :) |
| 20:43.42 | goozbach | it was a "for example" |
| 20:44.26 | jlp_znc | whoa, http://www.sllug.org/ Feb 04, 2005 |
| 20:44.33 | goozbach | If there's enough call for Utah County, that'd be awesome! |
| 20:46.53 | keldwud | yeah I'd totally be down for utah county. I'd go all the time and my boss would even encourage me to go |
| 20:47.36 | keldwud | goozbach selecthealth might be another good candidate for sponsorship. they tend to be pretty hip sometimes. |
| 20:47.44 | keldwud | and maybe zionbank |
| 20:48.23 | keldwud | dell/emc might be into something like that too if you know the right people over there |
| 20:48.47 | keldwud | would instructure be a good sponsorship candidate? |
| 20:51.55 | joshh | after work might get more sponsors than lunchtime also |
| 20:52.17 | goozbach | the idea is lunchtime |
| 20:52.19 | jlp_znc | after work would probably get fewer attendees |
| 20:52.22 | joshh | easier for some companies to have a lot of guests after normal hours |
| 20:52.33 | goozbach | because there are already after hours meetups |
| 20:52.42 | goozbach | it's an underserved market |
| 20:53.57 | joshh | in the bay area there are several dozen events like that every night after work at various companies, but ive never heard of a company sponsoring something around lunchtime, but i agree that lunch would be a nice time for the attendees |
| 20:54.50 | joshh | internal tech talks at lunch are big at individual companies |
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| 22:45.58 | RyanE | yeah, we do lunch-n-learn quite often, but I don't believe we've ever done anyone from outside the company, and/or invited attendees from outside... :) |