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| 16:41.10 | keldwud | anybody interested in lunch tomorrow? asa ramen in Orem at 1130am. We have room for a couple more peeps. |
| 17:04.14 | spangborn | Whatâs Orem? |
| 17:04.24 | spangborn | Never heard of it |
| 17:04.34 | keldwud | spangborn LUL |
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| 17:52.43 | JPaul | It's like Ogden, but south |
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| 18:43.12 | youtah | cat ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub | ssh jeff@nachos "mkdir -p ~/.ssh && cat >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys" |
| 18:43.17 | youtah | something like this should work |
| 18:43.18 | youtah | right? |
| 18:43.58 | youtah | "Orem, It's like Ogden, but South." - JPaul |
| 18:43.59 | youtah | I like it |
| 18:44.11 | youtah | almost campaign slogan worthy |
| 18:44.45 | jlp_znc | anybody really familiar with haproxy hanging out on the channel today? |
| 18:44.49 | joshh | i'd say like provo, but north |
| 18:45.00 | joshh | ive worked with haproxy a fair amount |
| 18:45.24 | jlp_znc | is it common to use "timeout client 24h"? 24 hours seems like a looooong time to me, but it's all over our configs |
| 18:45.47 | joshh | i've always had it way less than that |
| 18:46.12 | jlp_znc | okay, that's what I'm thinking (that it should be way less) |
| 18:46.25 | joshh | iirc my last couple jobs that used it would set that around 2 minutes |
| 18:46.35 | youtah | btw |
| 18:46.44 | youtah | my command worked just fine |
| 18:46.50 | frostyfrog | youtah: That command looks good to me |
| 18:47.08 | frostyfrog | Also, as far as asa ramen goes, I'm not a fan of their ramen, sadly. |
| 18:47.37 | frostyfrog | Now, Fatty Tuna or Ramen Nation on the other hand... I like those two :3 |
| 18:48.18 | jlp_znc | thanks, joshh. that confirms my suspicions. the previous admins here were dolts. |
| 18:48.19 | JPaul | jlp_znc, sounds like someone was getting desperate with something timing out on them |
| 18:48.42 | joshh | jlp_znc: i just checked the configs for one of our fast changing haproxy things and it's at 15s |
| 18:49.02 | joshh | server timeout is 2m |
| 18:49.10 | jlp_znc | JPaul: yeah, I think you are correct. someone was trying to solve a problem with a baseball bat when a fly swatter would have been more appropriate |
| 18:49.59 | JPaul | It's like when the Wordpress developers tell you to chown everything to 777 to get their plugin to work. |
| 18:50.08 | jlp_znc | thanks, guys. |
| 18:50.11 | JPaul | no idea what they are doing so just bludgeon it until it does work |
| 18:50.27 | youtah | changes everything away from 777 |
| 18:50.35 | youtah | "How dare they!" |
| 18:50.35 | JPaul | s/chown/chmod |
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| 19:28.50 | beelzebob | youtah: you could also go with: ssh-copy-id jeff@nachos |
| 19:29.14 | beelzebob | I hope someone around might have messed with dnsmasq on dd-wrt.. |
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| 19:30.15 | beelzebob | I've setup another vlan and what to have dnsmasq handle dhcp for it - all seems good with the conf the web gui generates, but clients can't get a dhcp response |
| 19:30.23 | beelzebob | s/what/want/ |
| 19:31.12 | beelzebob | I can see the dhcp request come in with tcpdump, but the client doesn't ever get the response |
| 19:33.09 | beelzebob | it seems I should double check that the router can reach the hosts on that vlan :/ |
| 19:35.57 | beelzebob | yeah, it can... the dnsmasq on the router seems to be very trimmed down, I'm not sure I can get it more verbose |
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| 20:20.03 | youtah | Hmmm, beelzebob looked at it |
| 20:20.05 | youtah | you're right |
| 20:20.15 | youtah | I should use that instead |
| 20:21.22 | youtah | looks like it not only creates the space (dir/file) appropriately if it doesn't exist, but also checks for duplicate entries in authorized keys |
| 20:21.24 | youtah | sweet |
| 20:21.40 | youtah | also handles and sets appropriate permissions |
| 20:21.45 | youtah | thanks beelzebob |
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| 21:02.41 | jlp_znc | beelzebob: did you bounce the router after making your changes? perhaps dnsmasq is not listening on the new vlan because it didn't exist when it started up? |
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| 21:42.29 | youtah | needs to find more deductions |
| 21:42.32 | youtah | lol |
| 21:42.51 | shalkie | So I have seen and used the bottle refill / water fountains before, but clearly I fail because I didn't think of a way to monetize it. |
| 21:42.53 | shalkie | https://www.wooshmiami.com/miami-pricing/ |
| 21:44.26 | jlp_znc | wow, Miami. way to screw your citizens and visitors. |
| 21:44.51 | jlp_znc | "hey, we know we used to just have public water fountains all over the place, but damn, no one was making a buck from that. now, if you want a drink, you have to PAY!" |
| 21:45.14 | jlp_znc | of course, the water is now "ultra purified" ... whatever that means. |
| 21:46.03 | shalkie | "We as the city of Miami have decided to get out of the heavily subsidized free water business and instead turn it over to private industry." |
| 21:50.06 | jlp_znc | from the site: "Water that's less expensive and more thrilling." |
| 21:50.10 | jlp_znc | less expensive than free? |
| 21:50.17 | jlp_znc | more thrilling than... water? |
| 21:50.26 | jlp_znc | sheesh. |
| 22:07.29 | jlp_znc | well, that was fun. had a user who couldn't resolve things on our internal network when his VPN was up... but only on wifi. |
| 22:08.35 | jlp_znc | turns out he had hard coded DNS servers 1.1.1.1 and 1.0.0.1 in his wifi config. |
| 22:33.42 | shalkie | jlp_znc: If vitamin water can be more fun then water, why can't woosh water be more thrilling? |
| 22:42.14 | jlp_znc | I guess it could be thrilling to watch it "whoosh" into your bottle. |
| 22:42.28 | jlp_znc | especially if you need to ... you know... go. |
| 22:48.35 | shalkie | Indeed. |
| 22:48.51 | shalkie | Only 58 days until OpenWest |
| 23:04.09 | JPaul | And still no schedule? |
| 23:06.08 | JPaul | I looked at last year's but it was like 95% web programming. As a sysadmin it wasn't really interesting to me, that's what I have developer's for. |
| 23:06.34 | JPaul | first year i went was cool, had perl, regex, salt, hardware, etc in addition to the programming aspect |
| 23:06.42 | JPaul | that was 5 years ago |
| 23:08.43 | JPaul | though I am having to learn more about current approaches to development since our devs are a bit lax on that. but then i just get frustrated with them |
| 23:09.28 | joshh | programming is great, just not web programming |
| 23:09.36 | joshh | except for backend if it's a non-awful stack |
| 23:09.56 | joshh | but ya nothing javascript, etc should be allowed there |
| 23:10.57 | JPaul | I understand a lot of it and can more or less read code from when I was younger, I did a lot with robotics |
| 23:11.33 | JPaul | And I messed around with learning perl and python and even ruby when I first was getting into IT (but I hate Ruby now, it can die in a fire) |
| 23:11.44 | joshh | sounds like you've learned well |
| 23:12.43 | JPaul | yeah, I just rarely do anything with it. Doesn't interest me in and of itself, and I rarely need to do much code for my sysadmin role |
| 23:13.10 | JPaul | maybe once I get another Jr. or two I can spend some more time on it, I am sure I could use some new tools here. |
| 23:13.38 | JPaul | I can read PHP well enough to know when it's not really my problem why something isn't working :-D |
| 23:15.37 | joshh | you don't want to be good at reading php |
| 23:15.46 | joshh | the more php functions you remember, the more insane you will be |
| 23:16.08 | joshh | ruby is a very distant 2nd worst |
| 23:16.32 | joshh | python and go are whats cool right now |
| 23:16.45 | joshh | and if you were a pure software engineer instead of a sysadmin you would probably dislike go |
| 23:17.00 | joshh | unless you had never gotten to know or like java |
| 23:17.07 | joshh | or c++ |
| 23:17.58 | JPaul | C interests me, but that's more academic than anything. |
| 23:18.40 | JPaul | truthfully I am the kind of person that does well at my job, and might be interested in a lot of it, but once I've been doing it every day over and over, I want to do something else at home |
| 23:19.23 | JPaul | I think people that live breath and die code are psychotic |
| 23:20.05 | JPaul | I'd rather go home and work on my Hummer (H#, the little one) or work in the garden or something completely unrelated |
| 23:20.18 | JPaul | s/H#/H3/ |
| 23:24.36 | joshh | i know where you're coming from there |
| 23:25.01 | joshh | and i agree that hobbies away from computers are great |
| 23:25.24 | joshh | but you can be into coding enough to get more work done in a better way without being someone who never goes outside |
| 23:25.55 | joshh | and 100% non-coding sysadmin jobs are only getting more rare as time goes on |
| 23:26.00 | joshh | as far as that aspect |
| 23:29.38 | JPaul | for sure. I need to work on it more, but right now I'm in a "keeping the DC from burning down" mode and have been for a whole year. |
| 23:30.08 | JPaul | I get a Jr. this month so hopefully he works out unlike the last 3 and I can start doing more than treading water. |
| 23:32.21 | joshh | ya, not burning down is good |
| 23:44.59 | shalkie | Anyone have experience working at Galileo Processing? |
| 23:45.35 | shalkie | Feel free to PM me, I am curious about it. |