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| 18:58.47 | youtah | Having a good conversation with the Mayor of Lehi and my House Rep about pushing Fiber Optics through out Lehi |
| 19:00.19 | spangborn | Lehi sucks |
| 19:00.23 | spangborn | Bring fiber to West Jordan instead |
| 19:00.26 | youtah | lol |
| 19:00.48 | youtah | You mean Lehi, the leader of tech and innovation, home of the Silicon Slopes. |
| 19:01.12 | youtah | https://twitter.com/youtah/status/1047892252201078784 |
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| 19:02.25 | spangborn | How's all that traffic going for you? |
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| 19:24.58 | spangborn | lol utleg |
| 19:25.10 | spangborn | Pushing a compromise for Prop 2 |
| 19:25.24 | spangborn | But the compromise could just be that the utleg does nothing, like they've done the last 3 sessions |
| 19:25.47 | spangborn | Maybe instead of trying to fight Prop 2, they should have taken care of this long before now |
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| 19:34.27 | jlp_znc | utleg hates public referenda |
| 19:35.35 | jlp_znc | utleg: "how dare those 'citizens' deign to change the laws we so graciously bestow upon them... they should just sustain what we, their betters, think they should have" |
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| 19:43.13 | spangborn | Well the best part about this "compromise" is that they're trying to imply there's no point in voting for Prop 2 now |
| 19:43.26 | spangborn | But in reality, they could just let it fail, and then do absolutely nothing and we're back where we started |
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| 20:02.42 | Migs | The attendance secretary at my daughter's school said she couldn't excuse one of her absences because I didn't notify her within 1 week. Think I should go into the database and excuse her myself? |
| 20:03.17 | spangborn | lol you have DB access? |
| 20:04.09 | Migs | yeah |
| 20:04.28 | Migs | I built the portal that told me she was absent |
| 20:05.11 | jlp_znc | she "can't"? or she "won't"? |
| 20:05.18 | Migs | she "won't" |
| 20:05.23 | jlp_znc | Migs: type type type |
| 20:05.39 | jlp_znc | "Try it now... you should be able to." |
| 20:05.43 | Migs | hahaha |
| 20:06.50 | jlp_znc | is there some stupid school policy that absences must be approved within a week? and did they tell you she was absent more than a week ago? |
| 20:06.54 | Migs | yes |
| 20:07.03 | Migs | I didn't receive a text message for some reason |
| 20:07.22 | Migs | but I also didn't bother checking |
| 20:07.35 | jlp_znc | so, according to the school, your daughter should be punished for a failure of their system |
| 20:07.44 | Migs | well, my system really |
| 20:07.47 | jlp_znc | shhh |
| 20:07.51 | jlp_znc | don't tell them taht |
| 20:07.53 | jlp_znc | that |
| 20:08.21 | Migs | it'll be okay. As long as she has good grades, which thankfully she does, I'm happy. |
| 20:08.27 | jlp_znc | Migs: "um, I never got the text... and I was waiting for it to process the approval" |
| 20:08.34 | Migs | I've been so proud of her...she just switched schools this year, and she's not used to getting straight As. |
| 20:08.55 | spangborn | It's not a bug |
| 20:08.56 | Migs | her old school had a much tougher curriculum apparently |
| 20:08.56 | jlp_znc | my son ended up with 10 U counts at the end of his senior year... for sluffing as a sophmore. |
| 20:08.57 | spangborn | it's a feature |
| 20:09.18 | Migs | yeah, my daughter did that too as a freshman...ended up being suspended |
| 20:09.26 | Migs | children are delightful |
| 20:10.01 | jlp_znc | them:"you can't graduate until you work off these Us" him:"how do I do that" them:"you can donate ten of these fleece blankets to the homeless on behalf of the school to prove your suitability as a member of society" |
| 20:10.13 | jlp_znc | him:"deal"... "mom, I need ten of these blankets" |
| 20:11.55 | spangborn | lol |
| 20:12.00 | spangborn | my dogs have never been suspended |
| 20:12.14 | spangborn | and unlike children, they actually want to impress me |
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| 20:14.22 | jlp_znc | heh |
| 20:16.31 | RyanE | spangborn: yes, but do your dogs mow the lawn? :) |
| 20:17.24 | spangborn | I'm fine mowing the lawn, they prevent breakins :) |
| 20:17.40 | romanovic | how much caffeine daily is acceptable to escape the black hole of fatigue that comes 1pm-3pm? |
| 20:17.42 | RyanE | I'd love to have a dog, but: allergies. |
| 20:17.56 | spangborn | romanovic: as much as you want |
| 20:18.07 | aeryndunham | the 1-3pm black hole is tough. coffee now will keep me up all night but I'm soooooo sleepy |
| 20:18.27 | aeryndunham | well I mean it's 4:18 here, def. too late for coffee |
| 20:18.43 | romanovic | after 3pm I'm usually good. can go all afternoon and late into the night. but after lunch until 3, it seems inescapable |
| 20:21.11 | romanovic | heh aeryndunham. I have a coworker who won't even drink Mt Dew after 4pm because it keeps him up. lightweight. |
| 20:21.31 | aeryndunham | hahah soda would be fine but I try not to drink much (my teeth hate me) |
| 20:21.37 | spangborn | There was some coffee I used to drink at like 5PM |
| 20:21.39 | spangborn | and I'd be wired |
| 20:21.51 | spangborn | But it was only that brand of coffee |
| 20:22.14 | aeryndunham | Huh, odd |
| 20:23.00 | aeryndunham | I've done almost no work today. I jsut cannot. |
| 20:24.06 | Migs | yeah, this day has been unproductive |
| 20:24.29 | spangborn | I have committed exactly one line of code |
| 20:24.31 | aeryndunham | I was killing myself this morning to set up a demo that got cancelled so now I'm like... meh |
| 20:24.43 | aeryndunham | It was a lot of work to get ready for |
| 20:24.44 | spangborn | and it was a property file |
| 20:24.44 | spangborn | lol |
| 20:25.40 | aeryndunham | and they told me last night I needed to fly to new york tomorrow but now I don't think I need to |
| 20:25.47 | aeryndunham | working here is a whirlwind of insanity |
| 20:25.57 | aeryndunham | PLUS I almost accidentally shut down a production server today |
| 20:31.42 | RyanE | *almost* is a lot better than *did*. |
| 20:31.54 | aeryndunham | haha yep |
| 20:32.12 | aeryndunham | It would have not been the END of the world with this particular server, but I am still glad I did not. |
| 20:32.35 | spangborn | have you tried turning it off and on again? |
| 20:32.38 | spangborn | ~moss |
| 20:32.38 | infobot | Well that's easy to remember. 0118 999 88199 9119 725! 3! |
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| 20:48.05 | youtah | eightyeight, I think I might be able to make a link to goozbach |
| 20:52.29 | eightyeight | ... from provo to davis county? |
| 20:52.37 | eightyeight | _north_ davis county, even |
| 20:53.04 | youtah | he's in AF |
| 20:53.07 | youtah | West AF |
| 20:53.09 | spangborn | http://google.com |
| 20:53.10 | youtah | and I am in Lehi |
| 20:53.11 | spangborn | There's your link |
| 20:53.28 | eightyeight | there is no way we're maintaining a link from AF to syracuse |
| 20:53.31 | eightyeight | heh |
| 20:53.43 | eightyeight | unless you bounce/amplify it a few dozen times on the way up |
| 20:54.00 | youtah | Our mesh system currently goes from Spanish Fork to Ogden |
| 20:54.06 | youtah | on 2.4 and 5 GHz |
| 20:54.29 | eightyeight | and how many nodes are on the mesh? |
| 20:54.36 | youtah | about 300? |
| 20:54.40 | eightyeight | :) |
| 20:54.51 | youtah | The backbone is... |
| 20:55.23 | youtah | Furthest house south in Spanish Fork to West Mountain, to BYU to Lake Mountain, to Lake Mountain, to Nelson Peak to Antelope Island to a house in Ogden |
| 20:55.38 | youtah | but a link from Goozbach to me is very very feasible and easy |
| 20:55.44 | eightyeight | sure |
| 20:55.57 | eightyeight | but a link from goozbach to me isn't, is my point |
| 20:56.02 | youtah | oh, lol |
| 20:56.12 | youtah | yeah, I didn't know you were wanting in on the action |
| 20:56.15 | youtah | Hmmmm |
| 20:56.26 | eightyeight | i assumed that's why you pinged me |
| 20:56.30 | youtah | We could do 50GHz and bounce it off clouds |
| 20:56.39 | youtah | well, I wanted to move the convo here |
| 20:56.42 | eightyeight | heh |
| 20:56.43 | youtah | I had to close the other window |
| 20:56.53 | youtah | I have automation that has hijacked my browsers for a few |
| 20:57.00 | eightyeight | i'll stick with my vivint 100 Mbps symm |
| 20:57.52 | spangborn | ew vivint |
| 20:58.33 | eightyeight | i love it. i get great routes and low latencies |
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| 21:00.40 | youtah | Vivint is doing really well here |
| 21:00.46 | youtah | I think they have everything on 30ghz |
| 21:00.54 | youtah | and 15ghz for the node to home |
| 21:00.59 | youtah | 30ghz from node to node |
| 21:01.19 | youtah | Roger Timmerman, CEO of Utopia, used to be one of the directors of the wireless over at Vivint |
| 21:01.30 | youtah | he lived in my neighborhood before he moved |
| 21:01.39 | youtah | he was giving me the full run down of the Vivint system |
| 21:01.43 | youtah | it was rather impressive |
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| 21:19.49 | SunSparc | wishes he could get something decent in Springville instead of having to use Comcast... |
| 21:20.06 | SunSparc | I have considered wireless, but heard mixed reviews. |
| 21:24.05 | SunSparc | romanovic: Ever try power napping? |
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| 21:36.26 | SunSparc | romanovic: https://www.scienceofpeople.com/science-perfect-nap/ |
| 21:55.36 | spangborn | Shame Vivint is such a deplorable company |
| 22:09.04 | Migs | it is? |
| 22:09.06 | SunSparc | spangborn: How so? |
| 22:10.18 | spangborn | They're very predatory with the elderly, have deceptive salespeople, and pros at the bait and switch |
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| 22:14.27 | SunSparc | spangborn: Speaking from experience? |
| 22:14.50 | SunSparc | I have not dealt with Vivint other than sales calls to see if they were in my area. |
| 22:15.08 | SunSparc | Have some relatives that work or have worked for them. |
| 22:16.26 | spangborn | Yep. Lots of reviews online mention their scummy sales tactics and poor service too. |
| 22:16.41 | spangborn | When they came to try to sell me solar, they wouldnât even leave me with a brochure |
| 22:17.05 | spangborn | Pushed me to buy into it and sign an agreement without all the info |
| 22:17.20 | spangborn | I balked and the salespeople got grumpy |
| 22:17.47 | SunSparc | That is lame. |
| 22:17.48 | spangborn | Theyâre known for trying to scare the elderly, telling them they need their security products, that theyâre âfreeâ |
| 22:18.13 | spangborn | And as far as a company culture, theyâre very âtech broâ |
| 22:18.43 | SunSparc | A factory full o' Star-bellied Sneeches? |
| 22:23.30 | jlp_znc | ones with stars upon thars? |
| 22:23.46 | SunSparc | =) |
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| 22:53.49 | youtah | Something is screwy with the keyboard bindings on my raspberrypi |
| 22:53.55 | youtah | i cannot use vim, vi, nano |
| 22:54.08 | youtah | I have to edit everything using only sed |
| 22:54.19 | youtah | and I need to setup a cron job and I can't |
| 22:54.23 | youtah | if I type : |
| 22:54.30 | youtah | it comes out as <F1> |
| 22:54.41 | youtah | and don't even think about hitting any of the arrow keys |
| 22:54.57 | youtah | throws the raspberry pi3 out the window and watches it get run over by a car |
| 22:59.27 | jlp_znc | try TERM=dumb |
| 22:59.47 | jlp_znc | (it won't help, but it will be amusing) |
| 23:01.07 | jlp_znc | you can try: loadkeys defkeymap |
| 23:01.10 | jlp_znc | if you can type at all. |
| 23:29.08 | SunSparc | youtah: wrong term type? |
| 23:33.06 | spangborn | https://gfycat.com/charmingacrobatichoverfly |
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