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| 15:56.03 | spangborn | set enforce off |
| 15:56.09 | spangborn | whoops, wrong window |
| 15:56.19 | jlp_znc | geez, spangborn! |
| 15:56.23 | jlp_znc | get it together |
| 15:56.26 | spangborn | :( |
| 15:56.26 | jlp_znc | ls |
| 15:56.28 | jlp_znc | :D |
| 15:56.38 | spangborn | ls -af | grep notporn |
| 15:56.40 | BigBen212 | yes, don't turn enforcement off in here |
| 15:58.22 | eightyeight | ~spangborn++ |
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| 16:21.30 | jfindlay | ~napoleon |
| 16:21.31 | infobot | Just listen to your heart. That's what I do. |
| 16:22.26 | jlp_znc | ~nacho |
| 16:22.26 | infobot | Why can't we ever have just, like, a salad? |
| 16:22.34 | jlp_znc | ~middleman |
| 16:22.34 | infobot | What the monkey! |
| 16:47.30 | eightyeight | ~linux |
| 16:47.30 | infobot | How can I get Linux OS tell me the procedure for my HP laptop? |
| 16:47.53 | jlp_znc | ~spangborn youtah |
| 16:47.53 | infobot | ACTION reduces youtah's karma |
| 16:47.57 | jlp_znc | :D |
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| 16:48.06 | spangborn | ~youtah-- |
| 16:48.08 | spangborn | MAKE IT SO |
| 16:48.17 | jlp_znc | ~youtah spangborn |
| 16:48.18 | infobot | ACTION eats nachos with spangborn |
| 16:48.25 | jlp_znc | mmmmm, nachos |
| 16:48.49 | jlp_znc | there used to be this place in Provo called Lenitos..... most amazing nachos. they had a plate they called "the mailman" |
| 16:49.01 | jlp_znc | it was just a pile of chips with a pile of meat and a pile of cheese. |
| 16:49.36 | jlp_znc | it was *not* named after Karl Malone... it was named after their mailman, who asked for "a pile of chips with a pile of meat and a pile of cheese" for lunch one day.. |
| 16:50.10 | jlp_znc | and what the heck is up with my period key? sometimes I get two dots for one keypress! |
| 16:50.14 | jlp_znc | stupid mac keyboard. |
| 16:52.53 | spangborn | Maybe itâs your fingers |
| 16:53.46 | jlp_znc | nope, definitely the keyboard |
| 16:54.35 | jlp_znc | but only the . key. and not every time I press it, just when it is most annoying (like typing a hostname) |
| 17:10.48 | jlp_znc | apparently this is something that happens with the new retina macs. :( |
| 17:12.29 | spangborn | They're subject to a class-action lawsuit right now |
| 17:12.37 | spangborn | Apple is apparently replacing them with a version that has a ruber gasket |
| 17:12.40 | spangborn | *rubber |
| 17:13.26 | jlp_znc | darn, I'd have preferred ruber. |
| 17:34.26 | joshh | ive had thinkpads with linux for the last couple machines, ever since they ruined the mac escape bar and keyboard and ports, really haven't missed anything about the macs at all actually |
| 17:35.15 | jlp_znc | yeah, when they decided that thinner was better they made all sorts of bad decisions. |
| 17:35.50 | jlp_znc | "hey, if we get rid of the USB-A ports entirely, we can make the machine 1mm thinner! and sell a bunch of USB-C -> USB-A dongles!" |
| 17:35.58 | joshh | heh yep |
| 17:36.17 | joshh | i actually love the new nice thinkpad hardware though, and there are some other amazing looking models coming out soon |
| 17:36.44 | jlp_znc | "but won't that make the keyboard not fit quite right?" "yeah, but we can use a dodgy keyboard that is 1mm thinner, too. it will suck, but no one types on their laptop keyboard, anyway. they should buy an external keyboard, after all." |
| 17:37.04 | jlp_znc | I haven't liked the thinkpads since they got rid of the touchpoint. unless they've brought it back? |
| 17:37.11 | joshh | external apple keyboarsd are trash too |
| 17:37.19 | joshh | they all still have the trackpoint afaik |
| 17:37.22 | joshh | ive never seen one without |
| 17:37.29 | eightyeight | pats his 11yo t-61 |
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| 17:38.49 | joshh | i have a t460s for work and an x1 carbon for personal, and both are quite awesome |
| 17:38.56 | joshh | and pretty thin and light |
| 17:39.03 | joshh | 3 pounds and 2.5 pounds respectively |
| 17:39.06 | joshh | with plenty of ports |
| 17:39.18 | joshh | with great keyboards |
| 17:39.44 | joshh | the t460s with linux battery life isn't that amazing, but its plugged in at my desk unless im in a meeting |
| 17:40.06 | eightyeight | i've heard good things about the x-series |
| 17:40.21 | joshh | they're good too, just smaller with lower resolutions |
| 17:40.32 | joshh | i like a 14" |
| 17:41.48 | jlp_znc | huh, I could have sworn I saw some thinkpads without the trackpoint. but all of the ones I see on lenovo.com seem to have it. that's good. |
| 17:42.48 | jlp_znc | maybe it was their Y series I was looking at..... which are not thinkpads. |
| 17:42.55 | joshh | they might have been dell latitudes or something |
| 17:45.42 | joshh | if i was going to get a new non-mac in the next few months i'd be looking at this https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-p/ThinkPad-P1/p/22WS2WPP101 |
| 17:46.41 | jlp_znc | yeah, that P series looks nice |
| 17:55.30 | joshh | eightyeight: actually there are like 2 x series i guess |
| 17:55.45 | joshh | the x1 series, and the xNNN series |
| 17:55.54 | joshh | x1 is 14 inch, the other is 13 |
| 18:30.59 | spangborn | Too bad it's still a thinkpad |
| 18:33.05 | joshh | not a fan? |
| 18:34.35 | spangborn | I have a T450 and would like to toss it down a flight of stairs |
| 18:35.59 | joshh | why is that |
| 18:38.07 | spangborn | Keyboard is trash, trackpad is trash |
| 18:38.21 | spangborn | The only thing it has going for it is the display is fairly high-DPI |
| 18:40.37 | joshh | lol |
| 18:40.44 | joshh | i will say the trackpads got a lot better in the last year or so |
| 18:40.52 | joshh | the one on my new x1 carbon is very close to mac quality |
| 18:40.55 | spangborn | Yes, it's better than my T440 was |
| 18:41.01 | spangborn | but it's still trash compared to Apple trackpads |
| 18:41.23 | joshh | also with libinput the palm detection while typing is much better |
| 18:41.24 | spangborn | Also the software integration on these trackpads is never as good as Apple's |
| 18:42.13 | joshh | apple has good trackpad but awful keyboard |
| 18:42.18 | joshh | i don't like the force touch ones much though |
| 18:42.59 | spangborn | Yep, it's bad |
| 18:43.08 | spangborn | Still better than the T440/T450 though |
| 18:43.20 | spangborn | The shape of the keys on the Thinkpads drive me nuts |
| 18:43.42 | joshh | orly? i like them quite a bit |
| 18:44.07 | spangborn | I can deal with the "almost no travel" keys more than I can with the shape of the Thinkpad keys |
| 19:04.22 | eightyeight | ~spangborn++ |
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| 19:11.02 | joshh | i can't understand hating that key shape |
| 19:11.09 | joshh | flat makes much less sense to me |
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| 20:49.58 | jlp_znc | so, I took it in and had it checked out while I was at lunch. the keyboard is definitely bad.. problem is, they have to order a whole new upper case to fix it, which will take approximately three business days to arrive. and apple's policy requires them to hold onto my machine while they wait for the part.. |
| 20:50.20 | jlp_znc | I can't really be without it for three or four days. I use for work! |
| 20:50.37 | spangborn | take some vacation :) |
| 20:50.41 | jlp_znc | ha |
| 20:50.43 | jlp_znc | haha |
| 20:50.50 | jlp_znc | you're a funny guy, spangborn |
| 20:51.37 | jlp_znc | I'm going to see if we have another mac in the office that I can hijack... restore my backup onto it and have them fix this one, then return this one to the pool when it's fixed (assuming we have a pool). |
| 20:52.06 | jlp_znc | stupid apple |
| 21:05.11 | jlp_znc | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EsUNOIYyKg&feature=em-uploademail |
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| 22:14.49 | eightyeight | ~spangborn++ |
| 22:28.41 | joshh | jlp_znc: is it a company owned machine? |
| 22:47.24 | eightyeight | ~spangborn++ |
| 22:47.35 | eightyeight | ~karma spangborn |
| 22:47.35 | infobot | spangborn has karma of -54 |
| 22:50.14 | joshh | you 2 should be friends |
| 23:13.36 | jlp_znc | joshh: yeah. I'm going to check with the apple store at the mall and see if they have the part in stock. if not, I'll just live with it for now and when it gets worse I'll have the company pay for a loaner machine for a few days. |
| 23:16.38 | joshh | can't just expense a new one from the store? |
| 23:16.57 | joshh | apparently you did downgrade a lot in company size from linkedin heh |
| 23:27.34 | jlp_znc | yeah |
| 23:27.59 | jlp_znc | we actually have a new one in house, but it's going to the guy that starts on monday, so I can't snake it out of there. |
| 23:28.11 | jlp_znc | if they weren't $2500... |
| 23:28.25 | jlp_znc | starts gofundme to get a new computer |
| 23:30.54 | joshh | illl throw in a few bucks |
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| 23:47.24 | eightyeight | ~spangborn++ |