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| 01:36.52 | frostyfrog | Wait, Flickr? |
| 01:37.01 | frostyfrog | Weren't they owned by Yahoo? |
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| 03:28.12 | klys | ~slashdot |
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| 15:32.36 | jlp_znc | yeah, Flickr was owned by Yahoo, who is now owned by |
| 15:32.42 | jlp_znc | Verizon? |
| 15:32.52 | jlp_znc | That just doesn't seem quite right. |
| 15:33.14 | jlp_znc | I guess Yahoo is calling itself Oath now or some such nonsense. |
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| 16:57.16 | youtah | Do technical writers typically report to marketing? engineering? etc? |
| 16:59.35 | programmerq | depends |
| 16:59.53 | programmerq | at my company they were part of the engineering group since they'd produce things tied to engineering release lifecycle |
| 17:00.13 | programmerq | but then they moved them over to the customer success org which deals with support and professional services |
| 17:00.48 | programmerq | some companies could put them under marketing too depending on who wants what to be documented when. |
| 17:09.26 | eightyeight | https://pthree.org/2018/05/23/do-not-use-sha256crypt-sha512crypt-theyre-dangerous/ |
| 17:20.15 | jfindlay | eightyeight: your blog is outstanding |
| 17:20.29 | jfindlay | I wish I could do such quality work |
| 17:20.32 | eightyeight | heh. thx. |
| 17:20.50 | youtah | thanks programmerq |
| 17:21.45 | frostyfrog | I just wish I had a decent cryptographic background and could write my own crypto algorithms and tools... |
| 17:21.52 | youtah | jlp_znc, SmugMug purchased Flickr IIRC |
| 17:22.25 | jlp_znc | 22 15:20 < jlp_znc > so, Flickr is being acquired by SmugMug. We are living in a strange land. |
| 17:22.37 | youtah | ah |
| 17:22.38 | youtah | lol |
| 17:22.41 | jlp_znc | :D |
| 17:22.43 | youtah | didn't read up far enough |
| 17:22.47 | programmerq | I hope flickr gets shut down, but my reason is petty. |
| 17:22.55 | youtah | lol |
| 17:23.09 | programmerq | I like crossview (see http://reddit.com/r/crossview) |
| 17:23.11 | jfindlay | eightyeight: you write like someone who a) has done intelligent research and b) is passionate about the subject. It reminds me that I still have not engaged with the philosophies I care about in a long time |
| 17:23.12 | frostyfrog | And the later comment was a response to me asking: [19:36:51] <frostyfrog> Wait, Flickr? [19:37:01] <frostyfrog> Weren't they owned by Yahoo? |
| 17:23.33 | programmerq | but one of the most active purveyors of original content there uses flickr, which is absolutely awful in the reddit-is-fun mobile app. |
| 17:23.42 | programmerq | it loads a blurry version and sits there for 10 seconds |
| 17:23.56 | programmerq | and then draws little left<->right arrows on the sides |
| 17:24.13 | jlp_znc | sounds like a valid complaint... nothing petty there. |
| 17:24.27 | programmerq | so I get like .2 seconds of proper crossview before the funky arrows appear and ruin the experience |
| 17:24.41 | eightyeight | jfindlay: indeed, i am passionate, and sometimes that passion clouds my rational thinking. hopefully, that wasn't the case here |
| 17:24.44 | programmerq | so I started downvoting every flickr submission there |
| 17:25.36 | programmerq | but someone made a bot that crossposts to http://www.reddit.com/r/parallelview and it hosts on imgur. crossview has way more content |
| 17:25.56 | programmerq | so now I get non-flickr versions of the content, and I'm finding that the parallel view is getting easier over time. |
| 17:26.11 | youtah | I am glad that Flickr is being purchased by SmugMug |
| 17:26.15 | youtah | I think it will lead to good things |
| 17:28.28 | youtah | does anyone have the link for the Russia power line hack article? |
| 17:28.34 | youtah | I think it was posted in here a few weeks ago |
| 17:28.38 | youtah | I am trying to find it |
| 17:28.48 | youtah | they were using javascript exploits iirc |
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| 17:29.31 | jfindlay | eightyeight: actually the only way to achieve excellence is to temper passion with intellectual rigor. If either is missing the result fails |
| 17:30.46 | jlp_znc | youtah: you mean this? http://bfy.tw/IGm1 |
| 17:31.01 | youtah | lol |
| 17:31.03 | youtah | I already tried |
| 17:31.41 | jlp_znc | https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/report-vermont-power-grid-infiltrated-by-russian-hackers/ |
| 17:32.01 | jlp_znc | is that the one? or was it newer than that? |
| 17:33.48 | youtah | um |
| 17:33.50 | youtah | much newer |
| 17:36.36 | jlp_znc | http://time.com/5202774/russia-hacking-dhs-report-power/ |
| 17:37.19 | eightyeight | jfindlay: how is microsoft? |
| 17:37.32 | youtah | I am searching like crazy |
| 17:37.47 | youtah | there was even a link a us.gov page explaining the exploit |
| 17:38.01 | youtah | This might be it |
| 17:38.54 | youtah | Yes |
| 17:38.55 | youtah | this was it |
| 17:39.05 | youtah | https://www.us-cert.gov/ncas/alerts/TA18-074A |
| 17:39.09 | jlp_znc | I'm looking at infobot.rikers.org for "russia" and don't find anything on #utah newer than 2016 |
| 17:39.22 | jlp_znc | you sure it was mentioned here? |
| 17:39.24 | youtah | You found it!!! |
| 17:39.26 | youtah | yeah |
| 17:39.33 | youtah | search that link I just posted above |
| 17:39.38 | youtah | I am sure that is in the history |
| 17:39.43 | youtah | 80% sure |
| 17:39.44 | youtah | lol |
| 17:40.31 | jlp_znc | Your search - "TA18-074A" site:infobot.rikers.org "log for #utah on" - did not match any documents. |
| 17:40.46 | youtah | Huh |
| 17:41.19 | youtah | Sharp left turn: https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/05/23/613616315/judge-backs-n-y-parents-saying-their-30-year-old-son-must-move-out |
| 17:41.31 | jlp_znc | uh, yeah |
| 17:41.44 | jlp_znc | see this door? now see it from the other side? |
| 17:41.51 | youtah | LOL |
| 17:42.08 | frostyfrog | That's a good magic trick |
| 17:42.31 | jlp_znc | so, my daughter just got her first job (she is 24... just finished nursing school recently) |
| 17:42.41 | frostyfrog | cool :D |
| 17:42.51 | frostyfrog | Congratulations to her! |
| 17:43.11 | jlp_znc | I suspect she will be moving out before too much longer. |
| 17:43.44 | jlp_znc | that will leave us with just one at home. |
| 17:46.21 | jlp_znc | he is planning on starting EMT school in the fall, so I don't think it will be too long for him. then we'll be empty nesters! |
| 17:46.26 | jlp_znc | (and there will be much rejoicing) |
| 18:08.24 | programmerq | I can't imagine being 24 and living at home still. I moved out when I was 18. |
| 18:08.57 | frostyfrog | is 23 and still living at home... Something about needing to finish college... |
| 18:16.24 | eightyeight | i cordially got kicked out when i returned from my mission |
| 18:16.41 | eightyeight | i was told "you have 1 year to find a wife or a roommate." |
| 18:23.50 | spangborn | jlp_znc: time to buy a boat |
| 19:21.34 | jlp_znc | I don't have that kind of money... I already have a jeep ("just empty every pocket"). |
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| 19:39.43 | joshh | it doesn't have to be a nice boat |
| 19:39.46 | joshh | just has to not sink |
| 19:42.55 | spangborn | Could even be made of duct tape |
| 19:51.37 | jsmith | jlp_znc: Turn your Jeep into a boat! |
| 19:51.40 | jsmith | ducks and hides |
| 19:55.21 | jfindlay | I'm sure there is a red green episode somewhere near here |
| 20:06.48 | youtah | I have a rather, incredibly attractive, female friend... and it never ceases to amaze me at the creeps that message her on Facebook. |
| 20:06.56 | youtah | She screenshots and posts them online too |
| 20:07.13 | youtah | Like, there was this guy just now, Going to BYU, just married (according to FB) a few months ago |
| 20:07.22 | youtah | sending her all of these kisses and hearts |
| 20:08.06 | Migs | I made a fake female Facebook account to troll a mothers group my wife was in awhile back...found the same thing |
| 20:08.19 | youtah | How come I never have recently married byu students sending me kisses and hearts over messenger? I'm feeling left out! |
| 20:08.20 | spangborn | Migs: hey baby ð |
| 20:08.34 | youtah | lol spangborn |
| 20:08.34 | spangborn | Well probably because BYU sucks |
| 20:08.40 | Migs | youtah: I think we're just too old for that nonsense |
| 20:08.47 | youtah | yeah |
| 20:08.52 | youtah | oh... time for my 2pm walk |
| 20:08.53 | spangborn | True, you're ancient |
| 20:09.00 | youtah | I'm OLD |
| 20:09.02 | spangborn | You're so old you already missed it by 8 minutes |
| 20:28.02 | jfindlay | ~napoleon youtah |
| 20:28.02 | infobot | ACTION makes youtah buy a lotto ticket for Napoleon |
| 20:28.27 | spangborn | ~fart |
| 20:28.27 | infobot | ACTION farts, releasing large quantities of methane and sulfur dioxide. "Evacuate the channel! GO! *gag* SAVE YOURSELVES *cough* MOVE *choke* MOVE!" |
| 20:32.54 | jfindlay | ~fartacycle |
| 20:33.22 | spangborn | ~recycle |
| 20:39.52 | jfindlay | fartacycles are compulsively flatulant motorcycles. Also known as "the flatulator" |
| 20:47.41 | Migs | https://twitter.com/CDCgov/status/999379560851533824' |
| 20:47.43 | Migs | https://twitter.com/CDCgov/status/999379560851533824 |
| 21:01.24 | youtah | That's amazing |
| 21:01.28 | youtah | I <3 that so much |
| 21:01.45 | spangborn | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NC2saE5MbQ |
| 21:21.33 | jlp_znc | spangborn: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/41/b5/8a/41b58a81695bcdf5fd4b69f006af87a3.jpg |
| 21:22.05 | jlp_znc | oh, I see I am at least one conversation out of the loop. sorry about the time warp. |
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| 21:28.06 | jfindlay | strange loop |
| 21:29.30 | spangborn | Lol |
| 21:32.38 | jlp_znc | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7Jwde4EAVw |
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| 21:36.59 | spangborn | jlp_znc: That's awesome |
| 21:37.08 | jlp_znc | isn't that amazing? |
| 21:37.24 | jlp_znc | I mean, I've seen some s |
| 21:37.36 | jlp_znc | some STOL landings before, but nothing like that |
| 21:38.14 | jlp_znc | I remember my dad telling me about one time he was on a Twin Otter flying into some AF base in Alaska... there was a curtain between the cockpit and cabin, but it was pulled aside so you could see out the front window. |
| 21:38.42 | jlp_znc | he described it as looking essentially straight down at the ground (I assume it was more of 60-75 degrees) as they were coming in. |
| 21:40.37 | jlp_znc | here's a twin otter landing... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-tc4O8Lg-c |
| 21:40.50 | jlp_znc | I love how he backs up to turn onto the taxiway. |
| 21:43.54 | jlp_znc | here's a cockpit view of another landing in a twin otter https://youtu.be/60kDtGjGzsc |
| 21:44.31 | jlp_znc | he had plenty of runway, though, so he didn't bother with reversing the props to stop sooner like the first guy. |
| 22:51.48 | youtah | well |
| 22:52.00 | youtah | I think I've had enough o today |
