| 00:12.40 | frostyfrog | Eh, depends |
| 00:13.40 | jfindlay | what would you use otherwise? |
| 00:14.10 | frostyfrog | a vpn, but I guess it's basically the same thing to some extent. |
| 00:15.25 | frostyfrog | If the machine that you are connecting to is the VPN server, roughly the same. Technically though, I trust my network enough that at home, I vnc from my VPN server. |
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| 01:04.58 | frostyfrog | Yep |
| 01:05.12 | frostyfrog | And for those, most people just wrap is with TLS |
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| 13:08.47 | BigBen212 | unum: I'm using logmein for some consulting stuff |
| 13:10.15 | BigBen212 | and used gotomeeting for screen sharing before |
| 13:12.45 | BigBen212 | and teamviewer so that Microsoft support can check if I have any viruses :) |
| 14:15.51 | spangborn | Hah |
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| 14:44.40 | jlp_znc | :D |
| 14:45.23 | jlp_znc | yeah, I've used team viewer for some consulting before. |
| 14:54.31 | unum | doh I asked a question and then forgot to check back |
| 14:54.34 | unum | bad unum bad bad |
| 14:55.42 | unum | the thing I don't like about the stuff I mentioned is that the clients maintain a connection to someone else's server, constantly waiting for instructions |
| 14:55.50 | unum | they are self installed root kits |
| 14:56.25 | unum | of course you could make the same complaint about cloud computing, someone else has complete control over your system |
| 14:56.55 | unum | and since they are large corporations with a business model based on maintaining security you should be safe..... |
| 14:57.20 | unum | but somehow vpn+vnc feel like the better option to me |
| 15:20.01 | romanovic | related, Is there any quality alternative to microsoft RDP for connecting to macs with VNC? |
| 15:20.45 | romanovic | I have both mac and windows PCs for work, and I'll usually just RDP to the windows machine when I need to use it, and the quality is more or less perfect |
| 15:21.32 | romanovic | I've tried probably 20 different VNC clients in various configurations, and the experience is always crap |
| 15:21.55 | romanovic | trying to view my mac desktop remotely |
| 15:25.24 | spangborn | romanovic: The built-in VNC client |
| 15:25.39 | spangborn | "Screen Sharing.app" |
| 15:29.31 | romanovic | spangborn: I'm not connecting from a mac |
| 15:29.55 | romanovic | I'm connecting _to_ a mac, usually from linux |
| 15:30.19 | spangborn | Oh, well most VNC clients on Windows/Linux are just trash |
| 15:31.05 | romanovic | I'm not tied to the VNC protocol. I'll take anything, anything at all |
| 15:32.09 | romanovic | I'm tempted to try mac's Screen Sharing within a mac vm on my linux machine |
| 15:33.15 | romanovic | uses RDP from a windows VM on his linux machine, it performs significantly better than any of the native VNC clients do connecting to mac |
| 15:33.43 | spangborn | You could try xrdp on the mac, and connect to that |
| 15:33.47 | spangborn | idk if it works well though |
| 15:34.33 | romanovic | interesting. it's worth a try |
| 16:02.27 | BigBen212 | there's always telnet :) |
| 16:24.42 | programmerq | romanovic⸠how remote are we talking? like LAN remote or 12 hour time difference remote? |
| 16:33.59 | romanovic | programmerq: LAN, wired |
| 16:34.39 | programmerq | honestly the mac VNC sharing has worked fairly well for me in those situations. Granted, I end up using the osx client. |
| 16:35.01 | programmerq | but I still think it's weird that they chose VNC as their way of doing remote |
| 16:35.26 | spangborn | Well, what other options are there, really? |
| 16:35.42 | spangborn | It's basically just RDP and VNC |
| 16:41.02 | romanovic | even though my two machines are connected to the same lan on wired gig ports, and VNC has the highest quality configuration, both mouse and keyboard are laggy and the graphics are sub-par |
| 16:41.20 | romanovic | If I lower the graphics quality, it still seems to be laggy |
| 16:42.32 | romanovic | MS RDP is far superior, so clearly there is a better approach to implementation. Apple just hasn't chosen that option |
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| 17:23.59 | Migs | https://twitter.com/the_t_bot/status/989546278156685313 |
| 18:52.34 | unum | lol |
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| 23:14.01 | romanovic | loves this weather |
| 23:14.18 | romanovic | selects "repeat 1" on the weather queue |
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