| 00:00.29 | RyanE | We were going to do one that went from Galveston to Panama, but they cancelled that particular cruise. |
| 00:00.38 | aeryndunham | Huh |
| 00:01.02 | aeryndunham | cruises from Galveston have all kinds of problems with fog, I do know, but that wouldn't be the cause of an outright cancellation |
| 00:11.06 | RyanE | I think they decided to resposition it to somewhere else. It was over a year in advance, so we had time to look at alternatives, but still kind of a drag. |
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| 00:26.28 | aeryndunham | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:26.32 | aeryndunham | if it were that far in advance |
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| 16:58.59 | youtah | no |
| 17:37.21 | BigBen212 | it just has to be said from time to time, youtah |
| 17:38.45 | BigBen212 | https://www.hudson.org/content/researches/thumb/12306/feature_20160311_blake_getty_images_72383345.jpeg |
| 18:14.55 | youtah | lol, right? |
| 18:15.15 | youtah | Just opened the picture, LOL |
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| 18:29.12 | frostyfrog | pokes their head in for the first time today. |
| 18:29.37 | BigBen212 | mostly quiet, frostyfrog |
| 18:30.44 | frostyfrog | Yeah, appears that way. |
| 18:30.58 | frostyfrog | Quite a gap from 1800 hours to 1000 hours. |
| 18:47.42 | TodPunk | Man, I wish there was some local expert I could just take to lunch to throw Kubernetes questions at. I'm drinking the docker koolaid a bit, but there's so many layers and holes in all of this. Maybe I should just purchase a book and go through it. Become that expert. |
| 19:07.02 | joshh | here there are like multiple kubernetes meetups and whatnot every night |
| 19:07.23 | joshh | make a trip |
| 19:08.29 | TodPunk | where are you? |
| 19:08.47 | TodPunk | There's apparently a Utah Kubernetes meetup on May 15th |
| 19:10.08 | TodPunk | with... 5 people |
| 19:10.36 | TodPunk | Seems more sign up right before or something |
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| 20:06.44 | youtah | frostyfrog, congrats on passing your Extra Class license! |
| 20:07.16 | frostyfrog | Thanks :) I tried to mention it when I checked in, but that's the part where I doubled. |
| 20:07.19 | frostyfrog | :p |
| 20:07.41 | frostyfrog | (checked in to the Lehi Area Preparedness Net) |
| 20:08.06 | youtah | Dude |
| 20:08.11 | youtah | that net took a LONG time |
| 20:08.30 | frostyfrog | It did, but I thought that the discussion was well worth it. |
| 20:09.07 | eightyeight | https://twitter.com/AaronToponce/status/986975608767836160 |
| 20:09.13 | frostyfrog | Valuable information and it felt like a discussion OTA. |
| 20:10.15 | frostyfrog | eightyeight: Thanks for sharing that, looks like a good read. I'll have to take a peek when I get home (which won't be long from now) |
| 20:10.30 | eightyeight | No worries |
| 20:10.52 | youtah | LastPass is only a 4.5?!?!?! |
| 20:11.12 | eightyeight | Heh |
| 20:11.21 | eightyeight | Yeah. It's... not great |
| 20:11.47 | eightyeight | No surprise really, given it's long history of security vulnerabilities |
| 20:12.03 | youtah | I dont see OnePassword on here |
| 20:12.20 | eightyeight | 1Password |
| 20:12.33 | youtah | Ah yeah |
| 20:12.40 | frostyfrog | I don't see Password Store on there |
| 20:12.51 | youtah | yeah, Gosh! |
| 20:12.54 | youtah | lol |
| 20:12.58 | youtah | this is a great spreadsheet |
| 20:13.04 | frostyfrog | ^ |
| 20:13.06 | frostyfrog | indeed |
| 20:13.32 | manithree | or Keepass* |
| 20:13.45 | frostyfrog | https://www.passwordstore.org/ "The utility can generate new passwords using /dev/urandom internally" |
| 20:14.04 | eightyeight | Yes, but that's not browser-based |
| 20:14.19 | frostyfrog | Ah, true. Makes sense. |
| 20:14.22 | eightyeight | Keepass also is not browser-based |
| 20:14.38 | manithree | True, but it does have browser plugins |
| 20:15.03 | frostyfrog | Now to go home before I say more stupid things (I'm fairly tired now for somereason) |
| 20:15.13 | eightyeight | I'll have to look at those |
| 20:20.34 | youtah | eightyeight, my coworker now wants to try One Shall Pass just for the name alone |
| 20:21.30 | eightyeight | Haha |
| 20:21.46 | eightyeight | I'm about to give a guest lecture at UVU. BBL |
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| 20:59.09 | romanovic | anyone know how to properly put a MBP to sleep? Maybe I'm an uneducated linux user, but in my linux/win experience, selecting "sleep" from the main system menu causes the machine to enter sleep mode |
| 21:01.32 | romanovic | on my MBP, selecting sleep usually causes the display to turn off, and about 60% of the time it turns on again. It fails to enter sleep mode if 1) I close the lid 2) I don't close the lid 3) I bump the mouse or a keyboard button before unplugging it 4) anyone's breathing within a 10' radius |
| 21:02.00 | youtah | So, in software development.... |
| 21:02.11 | youtah | 80% of the initial project, takes 80% of your time |
| 21:02.22 | youtah | the last 20%, takes up another 80% of your time |
| 21:02.45 | youtah | and this is why estimations should never be set to 100%? |
| 21:03.55 | romanovic | ^ accurate. that last 20% taking 80% of YOUR time, outside of work. cramming it in before a deadline |
| 21:11.30 | TodPunk | I only work outside of work if I'm learning something (enriching myself in the process) or if I promised something, in which case it's on me for promising something I couldn't deliver in the time I had (or refusing other things to make time). |
| 21:12.04 | TodPunk | Everything else I had to bargain for in the job, in which case it's "at work" |
| 21:14.16 | TodPunk | (I'm not saying everyone should do this by any means, mind) |
| 21:20.00 | youtah | eightyeight, Lastpass uses CRNG if available since v1.90.0 (2012). |
| 21:54.19 | jfindlay | ~napoleon |
| 21:54.20 | infobot | Girls only like guys who have great skills: Nun-chuck skills, bow hunting skills, computer hacking skills. |
| 21:55.23 | jfindlay | youtah: I wouldn't trust secrets with anything that both: wasn't open source, doesn't have perfect forward seecurity |
| 22:09.59 | unum | I tend to get stuck on that 80% mark on personal projects. It stops being fun at that point(unless I'm still learning), and usually becomes tedious. |
| 22:35.25 | BigBen212 | at my work, they tend to ask about timelines before I even know what the project is about |
| 22:36.14 | jlp_znc | BigBen212: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKorP55Aqvg |
| 22:36.16 | BigBen212 | so I feel it's fair to always "estimate" that it's either going to take three weeks or three months, depending on what I feel like might actually be involved |
| 22:46.34 | BigBen212 | jlp_znc: luckily it's not usually as bad as that video :) |
| 22:47.07 | jlp_znc | there are a couple more with our poor expert Anderson... relating to the "Square" project. |
| 23:20.29 | shalkie | romanovic: I just close the lid, disconnect any external monitors and wait. That usually works. |
| 23:23.02 | romanovic | shalkie: doing that seems to turn out the same, whether I 'sleep' first or not. It occasionally turns my computer bag into a furnace |
| 23:25.15 | romanovic | sometimes takes the machine a few minutes of inactivity while closed to decide that it's safe to go to sleep |
| 23:25.44 | romanovic | other times it turns off within moments |
