| 00:25.17 | joshh | fwiw ive been in the bay area for the last several years and have literally never heard utah's tech mentioned once, only other places you hear about are seattle, nyc, and maybe austin a couple times a year |
| 00:25.55 | joshh | but only because some companies here have offices there, but not slc |
| 00:26.34 | joshh | also utah's companies aren't really that talked about, e.g i've never heard anyone mention omniture/domo, qualtrics, etc |
| 00:26.55 | joshh | there are companies tech people know about, but not household names for the most part |
| 00:29.02 | joshh | that said the companies there do seem perfectly healthy and valuable enough |
| 00:29.25 | joshh | not really the same level of cash burning as some of the california startups/companies |
| 00:30.28 | joshh | seems like most of the risky stuff is here, there it's stable companies with conservative management who employ a lot of families |
| 00:30.35 | joshh | to over-generalize a bit |
| 01:03.18 | jfindlay | constructing a silicone-based placename for your hometown marketing campaign is as dorky as it is annoying |
| 01:03.34 | jfindlay | even silicone valley is a stupid name |
| 01:04.04 | jfindlay | silicon dump heap sounds more appropos |
| 01:04.48 | jfindlay | oh, there happens to be a glut of software conmen in the cities near SF bay? What does that have to do with silicon? |
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| 01:35.44 | youtah_home | I ask, jlp_znc, because they are moving into the building next to me |
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| 15:33.09 | youtah | runs away from adulting |
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| 15:40.35 | youtah | https://www.facebook.com/groups/n5frt/permalink/2100426923524100/ |
| 15:41.29 | youtah | an old Walter Chronkite special on Ham Radio |
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| 16:48.07 | romanovic | joshh: that's an interesting observation, and it makes sense that Utah companies wouldn't have the same risk tolerance as bay area companies. Funding does not look the same |
| 16:49.44 | romanovic | and Utah attracts a different sort of company/startup |
| 16:52.40 | jlp_znc | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYimlrucN4s |
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| 20:39.10 | jfindlay | romanovic: yeah, pyramid schemes |
| 20:42.48 | romanovic | haha. yes, MLMs. I want to know how they got their foothold. and where do they find employees? They are spoken of universally with revulsion as far as I can tell. |
| 20:43.28 | romanovic | Some of the larger ones have tech positions that are just a revolving door, always open on job sites |
| 20:43.39 | spangborn | Stupid people love MLMs |
| 20:43.47 | spangborn | Must be a lot of stupid people. |
| 20:44.41 | BigBen212 | It's a bit older, but this is one of the funnest articles I've seen about MLM in Utah: https://talkingpointsmemo.com/theslice/mormon-utah-valley-multilevel-marketing-thrive-doterra |
| 20:45.10 | BigBen212 | so I bookmarked it a long time ago, to pull it out now to share with y'all :) |
| 20:48.14 | BigBen212 | on the other hand: I know only two people who work at MLM, and both really like it there. One's in HR, the other one in IT. |
| 20:50.17 | spangborn | Thatâs because nobody works for them |
| 20:50.23 | spangborn | Theyâre just slaves to it |
| 20:54.46 | romanovic | interesting article. we're all missing out on $1833 per year by not participating |
| 20:55.00 | BigBen212 | yup, for sure :) |
| 20:55.34 | BigBen212 | kinda sad for the people who really get sucked into it and to pad their numbers, they go into debt to buy their own stuff |
| 21:00.43 | jfindlay | mlm's are a strange reflection of our perverse capitalistic socioeconomy |
| 21:01.49 | jfindlay | like taking Big Corp and forming it into a cautionary morality play |
| 21:01.58 | jfindlay | except that it's real :/ |
| 21:12.52 | jlp_znc | https://nypost.com/2018/04/03/reports-of-active-shooter-at-youtube-headquarters/ |
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| 21:57.39 | jfindlay | I wonder how many places have an inactive shooter |
| 22:33.44 | jlp_znc | four injured, shooter killed herself. |