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| 03:32.59 | klys | migs, would be nice to hear the rest of the story :.) |
| 03:33.04 | klys | ~slashdot |
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| 16:10.05 | spangborn | Well now I understand why he's resigning https://www.sltrib.com/news/2018/03/17/in-new-complaint-group-says-utah-rep-mike-noel-hid-potential-conflicts-as-he-sought-lake-powell-pipeline-water-for-land-he-owns/ |
| 16:14.05 | Migs | https://www.facebook.com/peoplemag/videos/10156843924203132/ |
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| 17:14.37 | TodPunk_ | jlp_znc: yes, according to the police that kept picking up keldwud's daughter going to/from school via the public transit bus. |
| 17:16.57 | spangborn | So stupid |
| 17:18.51 | jlp_znc | throw the old rascals out and put our own new rascals in! (re: Mike Noel) |
| 17:23.08 | jlp_znc | Oh, here's the kicker. "State law ... requires Noel ... to file sworn statements with the attorney general disclosing potential conflicts ... |
| 17:23.28 | jlp_znc | so, expect legislation to remove that annoying law in next year's session. |
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| 18:03.46 | youtah | uhgggggggg |
| 18:18.04 | unum | politicians like that typically list a holding company |
| 18:18.16 | unum | then people have to hunt down what the holding company actually owns |
| 18:18.26 | unum | that was a favorite trick of Speaker Hughes' |
| 18:19.29 | unum | yes, there's a new law stating that parents can't be charged for letting their kids engage in age appropriate independence, but the law doesn't actually define what the means |
| 18:19.41 | unum | which means it's still up to judges just like it was before |
| 18:20.02 | unum | so yeah for worthless message bills that make people thing their state reps did something |
| 18:20.10 | unum | s/thing/think |
| 18:23.30 | jlp_znc | https://youtu.be/FR5WT12B_88 |
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| 19:29.46 | youtah | omg |
| 19:29.50 | youtah | I am trying to get over this migraine |
| 19:29.55 | youtah | and looking at a monitor is killing me |
| 19:30.00 | romanovic_ | hates news sites that insidiously start playing videos, in the background, 15 min after my last activity on the page |
| 19:30.21 | romanovic | youtah: more caffeine? |
| 19:34.24 | youtah | I dunno |
| 19:34.36 | youtah | I think to go into the mountains and get some fresh air more than anything I think |
| 19:34.47 | youtah | start at something inanimate that isn't being repainted at 60hz |
| 19:34.55 | youtah | under natural light |
| 19:35.02 | youtah | stare at a rock or something |
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| 20:00.29 | RyanE | so if your migraine doesn't go away when staring at a 'natural' tree, you'll know you're in the matrix. |
| 20:23.51 | youtah | Has anyone ever done automation with Android or iOS Apps? |
| 20:23.59 | youtah | I'd like to learn more in this area |
| 20:25.09 | spangborn | youtah: Check out SauceLabs |
| 20:25.58 | youtah | gracias |
| 20:27.04 | youtah | Looks like there isn't anything local for Sauce Labs? Looks like it is all with in their cloud infrastructure? |
| 20:27.26 | spangborn | Yep |
| 20:27.29 | spangborn | Doing it locally is a nightmare |
| 20:27.52 | spangborn | Provisioning the devices and controlling them is incredibly complicated |
| 20:29.33 | youtah | which is what I would need |
| 20:29.51 | youtah | I am automating against webservers running on hardware |
| 20:31.01 | youtah | I am not sure how one of their cloud vm's would be able to connect to a LAN port on say, a router I am testing. :) |
| 20:31.45 | spangborn | They'll do a reverse proxy kind of thing |
| 20:32.04 | spangborn | Depending on your security requirements, that might work |
| 20:32.08 | spangborn | You could also look into Appium |
| 20:32.23 | spangborn | But you'll need a Mac |
| 20:32.28 | youtah | Hmmmm |
| 20:32.43 | youtah | it would be really hard |
| 20:32.45 | youtah | I am testing things like |
| 20:33.53 | youtah | Static, DHCP, Dynamic DNS, etc |
| 20:36.54 | youtah | Looks like there is a way to install apium on linux |
| 20:36.59 | youtah | https://steelkiwi.com/blog/setup-environment-mobile-android-app-testing-linux/ |
| 20:38.13 | youtah | Looks like a good area for me to learn, lots of potential :-) |
| 20:38.46 | spangborn | youtah: But a linux box can only automate Android |
| 20:38.49 | spangborn | No iOS |
| 20:40.51 | youtah | see the description/setup in the url |
| 20:41.00 | youtah | it is having you install apium and brew on linux |
| 20:41.20 | youtah | and allows you to supposedly run iOS apps on linux |
| 20:42.01 | youtah | although, I will only believe it when i see it |
| 20:42.10 | spangborn | Appium on Linux doesn't support iOS |
| 20:42.14 | spangborn | Appium on MacOS does |
| 20:42.32 | spangborn | requires XCode Tools |
| 20:43.32 | youtah | Oh, I was reading this backwards |
| 20:44.03 | youtah | the Genymotion Desktop emulator runs ON a Mac or Linux |
| 21:00.50 | youtah | Espresso seems pretty cool |
| 21:06.58 | spangborn | We have a test lab of devices that are networked with appium |
| 21:07.08 | spangborn | and I can send automation to them and they do their thing and report back |
| 21:07.16 | spangborn | but we have a team fully dedicated to supporting that stuff |
| 21:08.16 | youtah | http://www.qpython.com/ |
| 21:09.48 | youtah | I have quickly discovered there are 18 million ways to skin this cat |
| 21:10.05 | spangborn | and most of them suck, honestly |
| 21:10.17 | youtah | yes |
| 21:10.24 | youtah | that is exactly what I am finding |
| 21:10.53 | spangborn | The reason I suggested Sauce was because they handle all the parts that suck |
| 22:45.53 | jfindlay | ~napoleon |
| 22:45.53 | infobot | Girls only like guys who have great skills: Nun-chuck skills, bow hunting skills, computer hacking skills. |
| 23:30.46 | klys | ~slashdot |
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