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| 00:38.25 | aeryndunham | I'm going skiing tomorrow (or maybe tuesday, weather is key) and I'm so excited! |
| 01:09.28 | klys | yayy |
| 01:09.47 | klys | ~slashdot |
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| 16:49.24 | youtah | uhg, it's been so long that I have done any system init scripts for ubuntu, it's like I have to re-learn this all over again |
| 16:49.34 | youtah | well, it doesn't help when it appears they've changed some things too |
| 16:51.35 | spangborn | welcome to systemd |
| 16:54.56 | youtah | heh, looks like everyone still drops stuff in /etc/init.d still |
| 16:55.09 | youtah | I guess some habits are hard to kill? |
| 16:55.23 | youtah | service habits kill |
| 16:55.51 | youtah | "First, it is important to note that systemd is only fully supported in Ubuntu 15.04 and later releases. " |
| 17:09.27 | spangborn | How old of a release are you using? |
| 17:09.37 | youtah | last time I did this, I was one 14.04 |
| 17:09.42 | youtah | I am now on.... |
| 17:09.54 | youtah | 17.10 |
| 17:10.09 | spangborn | Ah |
| 17:10.16 | spangborn | You can use either there |
| 17:10.35 | spangborn | I have both systemd and init.d scripts on my 17.10 system because Iâm lazy |
| 17:11.48 | youtah | so what is 'upstart'? |
| 17:11.54 | youtah | this seems to be newer than the systemd |
| 17:12.04 | youtah | or is it the same thing with new names |
| 17:12.11 | youtah | is googling as fast as he can |
| 17:12.19 | spangborn | Itâs ubuntuâs own version of it |
| 17:33.45 | youtah | https://i.imgur.com/qm3bY35.gifv |
| 17:44.52 | spangborn | I think that's why you *SHOULD* |
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| 18:16.55 | youtah | listening to a history of systemd, init and upstart |
| 18:16.58 | youtah | kind of interesting |
| 18:17.07 | youtah | sounds like systemd is where you wanna go |
| 18:18.52 | frostyfrog | systemd kinda took over. |
| 18:19.02 | frostyfrog | I don't like how it can manage everything >_> |
| 18:19.24 | frostyfrog | feels very... NSA-ish |
| 18:20.13 | frostyfrog | But I write and manage all of the systemd service files here where I work. |
| 18:21.06 | frostyfrog | total of 24 unit files, IIRC |
| 18:24.33 | frostyfrog | 22 service, 1 path, and 1 target. That looks to be the exact number that we have. :s |
| 18:25.01 | aeryndunham | Morning! |
| 18:27.21 | spangborn | My favorite systemd thing is how it renames network interfaces |
| 18:27.25 | spangborn | /s |
| 18:27.28 | spangborn | hi aeryndunham! |
| 18:29.44 | romanovic | good morning |
| 18:30.54 | aeryndunham | is on vacation and has not been at her computer much |
| 18:31.36 | romanovic | I run into the same thing as youtah, but only need to pull apart or add init scripts once or twice a year, so I keep forgetting everything I learn |
| 18:31.47 | romanovic | aeryndunham: how is vacation? |
| 18:32.41 | aeryndunham | Amazing. Every time we come here I never want to leave. This is our first time visiting his family in the winter, though, |
| 18:33.24 | romanovic | ooh. wet/snowy winter? |
| 18:33.58 | romanovic | I thought we were going to get more winter over the weekend here. for the last 3 days every few hours my phone kept getting "winter storm alert" notifications |
| 18:34.17 | aeryndunham | Yeah, it's snowing again today |
| 18:34.32 | aeryndunham | but they live up on a mountain so half the time it's snowing here but not down the road in town |
| 18:35.35 | aeryndunham | We are planning on skiing tomorrow |
| 18:35.42 | romanovic | "winter storm warning through Sunday at 4:00 PM" "winter storm warning 4" - 8" of snow expected" "WINTER STORM WITH HIGH WIND SPEEDS STAY HOME". but, nothing but a small dusting came, and immediately melted the next morning, it was very disappointing :( |
| 18:35.43 | spangborn | It's hilarious to me that I spend more money on bike tires than I spend on car tires |
| 18:35.59 | spangborn | I've spent like $600 on bike tires in the last two years, and $400 on car tires |
| 18:36.10 | spangborn | hashtag priorities |
| 18:36.21 | aeryndunham | Priorities seem ok to me :p |
| 18:36.28 | romanovic | hah. fat tires, spangborn? |
| 18:36.37 | aeryndunham | Says the girl who just bought a whole arsenal of winter clothing solely for one day of skiing |
| 18:36.40 | spangborn | Lots of different tires |
| 18:36.57 | spangborn | 42mm tires for gravel bike, 25mm tires for two different road bikes (in tubeless form) |
| 18:37.28 | romanovic | aeryndunham: downhill skiing, or cross country? |
| 18:37.32 | aeryndunham | Downhill |
| 18:37.38 | spangborn | I only have one wheelset with tubed tires left anymore |
| 18:37.45 | aeryndunham | Which I have not done since 1998 so it's, uh, gonna be awesome |
| 18:38.03 | spangborn | aeryndunham: Sounds fun |
| 18:38.11 | spangborn | You're in Canuck-land? |
| 18:38.17 | aeryndunham | (I would actually love to learn to ski at a competent level, which will have to wait until I live somewhere with winter) |
| 18:38.24 | aeryndunham | Yeah, I'm in British Columbia |
| 18:38.30 | spangborn | Sweet :) |
| 18:38.34 | aeryndunham | it's a small ski resort near here but small is probably good |
| 18:39.35 | aeryndunham | I'm still angry I never got to go skiing when I lived in SLC |
| 18:39.48 | spangborn | Well you can always come visit |
| 18:39.51 | aeryndunham | This is true |
| 18:39.56 | spangborn | Snow this year hasn't been particularly great anyway |
| 18:40.07 | spangborn | It's only gotten decent in the last couple weeks |
| 18:40.15 | aeryndunham | There was a really nice snowfall over the weekend and the ski resort here is realllllly excited about it |
| 18:40.37 | aeryndunham | I've technically been to Alta but was just for hiking, there was no snow yet |
| 18:41.28 | aeryndunham | But yeah I'm hoping youtube videos plus one ski lesson 20 years ago is sufficient knowledge :p |
| 18:43.29 | spangborn | lol |
| 18:43.32 | spangborn | Keep us posted on that |
| 18:45.18 | aeryndunham | I will obviously stay to the easy slopes |
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| 21:15.47 | RyanE | spangborn: you like the tubeless tires better? |
| 21:16.01 | RyanE | I need to replace my 'road-like' tires on my MTB. |
| 21:16.03 | spangborn | I do. They're a little more difficult to get setup at first, but so worth it. |
| 21:16.19 | RyanE | I don't have a road bike (too cheap), but like the thinner tires a lot better than nubbies. |
| 21:16.30 | RyanE | I've been told I should just get a road bike. :) |
| 21:16.31 | spangborn | At my race on Saturday, I had a couple of goatheads in my front tire. Pulled them out, spun the wheel, and sealed in seconds |
| 21:16.43 | RyanE | nice |
| 21:17.05 | spangborn | Commuting every day during the summer, I was probably replacing 2-3 tubes a week |
| 21:17.19 | spangborn | Switched to tubeless, haven't had a single seal failure |
| 21:17.25 | BigBen212 | spangborn: how long is your bike commute ? |
| 21:17.29 | RyanE | I'm 16-18 miles from home to work, over the point. I'm still too chicken... |
| 21:17.33 | spangborn | About 15mi, depending on the way I go |
| 21:17.51 | spangborn | As short as 12.5 if I take streets, 15 is mostly Jordan River Parkway |
| 21:18.08 | RyanE | JRP sure seems to meander |
| 21:18.12 | RyanE | and has a lot of cracks. |
| 21:18.17 | BigBen212 | well, it's Utah, so you better stay off where the cars are. |
| 21:18.17 | spangborn | RyanE: Do you drive now? |
| 21:18.26 | RyanE | yeah, I drive now. |
| 21:18.27 | spangborn | Nah, most areas of SL Valley are okay |
| 21:18.31 | spangborn | SLC is probably the worst part |
| 21:18.50 | BigBen212 | I've seen some scary stuff. People are just idiots, turning in front of cyclists |
| 21:18.50 | RyanE | I live in Highland, work in Draper between 123rd and 114th |
| 21:18.51 | spangborn | RyanE: Ah, so public transit in one direction would be a pain |
| 21:18.56 | RyanE | yeah. |
| 21:19.04 | spangborn | BigBen212: Yep, thus why i ride with cameras |
| 21:19.04 | RyanE | no great options for public transit. |
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| 21:19.15 | RyanE | best option for me I believe would be to get a bike carrier on my car, then leave car at work. |
| 21:19.17 | spangborn | RyanE: I ride TRAX/FR one way, commute back home via bike |
| 21:19.23 | RyanE | and if I get bad weather, I drive bike on car. |
| 21:19.41 | spangborn | That way I don't have to shower when I get to work |
| 21:19.53 | RyanE | FR wouldn't be horrible for me, but it would only save me from Lehi station to Draper station. |
| 21:20.06 | RyanE | I'd still have to do SR92 either way. |
| 21:20.34 | RyanE | We have a gym and shower, so I could do that. I have a coworker who bikes in the summer at least 1/week from Orem. |
| 21:30.00 | spangborn | I'm lucky in that I live ~1mi from Trax |
| 21:30.18 | spangborn | so I ride in street clothes to the train, hop train, and ~1mi ride from Courthouse stop to work |
| 21:31.31 | frostyfrog | romanovic: My aunt in Spanish Fork took a picture of her front yard. It looks like they got 1'-2' of snow. |
| 21:32.39 | romanovic | not fair. |
| 21:33.05 | frostyfrog | I agree. In Lehi, I got a light dusting that melted in the afternoon. :( |
| 21:35.09 | frostyfrog | /late, romanovic. Issues with network interface names? I like the names on my router :3 wan0 wlan0 lan0 br0 eth1 eth2 eth3 eth4, and it's running systemd :D |
| 21:36.34 | frostyfrog | looks at what they had been replying to. I guess both of my replies were late :/ |
| 21:38.49 | RyanE | frostyfrog: Yeah, my parents said they got a ton in SF. |
| 21:39.10 | frostyfrog | :( |
| 22:06.40 | jfindlay | ~napoleon |
| 22:06.40 | infobot | It's a liger, bred for its skills in magic. |
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| 22:10.38 | frostyfrog | ~roll 5d6 |
| 22:10.38 | infobot | ACTION stuffs 5d6 in a hamster ball and rolls it down a steep, snow-covered mountain |
| 22:10.47 | frostyfrog | ._. |
| 22:10.55 | frostyfrog | Goodbye hamster. |
| 22:13.34 | youtah | Uhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 22:13.42 | youtah | The Mavic Pro drone by DJI has just dropped |
| 22:13.43 | youtah | AGAIN |
| 22:13.48 | youtah | to $769!!! |
| 22:13.57 | youtah | This was originally MSRP'd at $1200 |
| 22:14.10 | youtah | Seems like a sign that the Mavic Pro 2 will be announced soon. Maybe? |
| 22:15.24 | Migs | whoa |
| 22:15.43 | youtah | https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B01LZ8QTSU/ref=smi_www_rco2_go_smi_3499214142 |
| 22:15.47 | youtah | herlo just bought one |
| 22:15.49 | youtah | I have one |
| 22:16.10 | youtah | jsmith should get one too. cSmith can you talk him into it? |
| 22:17.20 | youtah | They had an Amazon Special for a long time, setting the Mavic Pro at $1000 through Amazon only |
| 22:21.20 | spangborn | meh |
| 22:22.08 | spangborn | !news oath keepers mayor |
| 22:22.15 | spangborn | er, thanks IRC |
| 22:22.21 | spangborn | https://lvrj.com/post/1326715 |
| 22:25.38 | youtah | you hear that the guy on trumps campaign is refusing to testify to a grand jury? |
| 22:25.45 | youtah | he told them "let them arrest me" |
| 22:26.29 | frostyfrog | looks at that price. |
| 22:26.33 | frostyfrog | Yeah, I'll wait. |
| 22:27.43 | BigBen212 | I'm sure Muller is going to be impressed by "yeah, I don't feel like testifying" :) |
| 22:28.00 | youtah | https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/former-trump-aide-sam-nunberg-called-before-grand-jury-says-he-will-refuse-to-go/2018/03/05/24c8b86a-20a9-11e8-badd-7c9f29a55815_story.html?utm_term=.8dcedb1a9311 |
| 22:32.16 | youtah | https://twitter.com/ChetPowell/status/970783921578397702 |
| 22:33.01 | youtah | ^^ I am dying |
| 22:33.11 | youtah | (warning, contains swear words) |
| 22:42.20 | youtah | This day is getting better and better and better |
| 22:42.22 | youtah | spangborn, |
| 22:42.32 | spangborn | rofl @ Winslow's last RT |
| 22:42.33 | youtah | the Utah State Bar just accidentally emailed out a photo of a topless oman |
| 22:42.35 | youtah | Yes |
| 22:42.36 | youtah | That |
| 22:42.42 | youtah | https://twitter.com/BenWinslow/status/970791047943962625 |
| 22:42.45 | youtah | OMG OMG OMG |
| 22:42.59 | youtah | "Here's what I CAN show you..." |
| 22:43.16 | spangborn | Does that count as revenge porn? |
| 22:43.33 | BigBen212 | hah! |
| 22:44.42 | youtah | but seriously |
| 22:45.12 | youtah | they just distributed pornographic material |
| 22:45.16 | youtah | isn't that illegal in Utah? |
| 22:45.38 | BigBen212 | any chance the Utah Bar can prove how dangerous pornography is. They just wanted to see how many heads exploded. |
| 22:45.46 | youtah | lol |
| 22:46.41 | BigBen212 | probably was one of those "this image will serve as a placeholder until we get the real thing in there in time for the newsletter" cases. |
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| 23:05.22 | romanovic | girl scout cookies day at the office |
| 23:29.38 | youtah | Nunberg is back on MSNBC again |
| 23:29.41 | youtah | Again |
| 23:29.53 | youtah | I actually worry that Nunberg is literally melting down |
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