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| 00:28.12 | jfindlay | fungus: the problem is things like daylight, seasons, moon phases |
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| 00:29.20 | jfindlay | everyone could use latitude, longitude, and elevation for terrestrial coordinates, but people insist on naming things and trying to impose comfortable relationships between ideas and objects |
| 00:54.30 | fungus | jfindlay, those things are not intrinsically connected to time. Which is why using them to delineate time is imprecise and contradictory. |
| 00:57.10 | fungus | a proper method would be to find a single unit of time that is constant and does not connect to anything variable (daylight, moon, seasons). |
| 00:58.33 | fungus | Then structure standard metric variations: milli, centi, deci etc. |
| 00:59.19 | fungus | e.g. stardate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stardate |
| 00:59.52 | jfindlay | fungus: sure, but good luck trying to sell the world a time system that has people on workdays that gradually phases in and out with the sunlight every 'hectoday' or whatever |
| 01:00.43 | jfindlay | but natural units are the best scale system |
| 01:00.46 | fungus | Agreed, it will be near impossible to switch to, but it's more scientifically precise and useful. |
| 01:00.48 | jfindlay | ~wiki natural units |
| 01:00.59 | jlp_znc | we just need to change the duration of a second. and then all of the physics books. and all of the "natural" constants. |
| 01:01.45 | jlp_znc | for c, at least, you have to specify the gravitational field it is in and the medium it is traversing (i.e., vacuum) |
| 01:02.00 | jfindlay | the natural unit of time being the planck time |
| 01:02.29 | jfindlay | jlp_znc: universal constants are understood to be measured in vacuum |
| 01:03.21 | jfindlay | thankfully LHC has pretty much outruled every surreptitious theoretical model sullying the vacuum besides the base higgs field |
| 01:05.51 | jlp_znc | http://www.kentchemistry.com/links/GasLaws/STP.htm |
| 01:05.58 | jfindlay | also, 'microgravity' is only meaningful when you're travelling along a geodesic, such as in a circular orbit around the earth. You have to go quite far out into intergalactic space for the geodesic to become negligible |
| 01:06.28 | jfindlay | meaning, eliminating the gravity field from your vacuum |
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| 04:29.36 | klys | 'slashdot |
| 04:29.50 | klys | ~slashdot |
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| 17:08.30 | jlp_znc | Huh, if you think about it, DNA is already a storage device. |
| 17:08.46 | jlp_znc | I wonder what we're going to find when we finally figure out how to decode it completely? |
| 17:09.07 | jlp_znc | "This is a work of fiction. Any resemblance to actual people or events is strictly coincidence." |
| 17:28.32 | frostyfrog | lol |
| 17:32.33 | frostyfrog | https://www.cnet.com/news/szechuan-sauce-will-be-at-all-u-s-mcdonalds-rick-and-morty/ |
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| 18:30.06 | romanovic | This makes me happy. https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/21/17036932/disney-redbox-lawsuit-star-wars-marvel-pixar-digital-downloads |
| 18:30.23 | romanovic | Disney still gets away with far too much copyright abuse. |
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| 22:05.34 | frostyfrog | That put a smile on my face. Thanks for sharing :) |
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