| 00:05.26 | keldwud | scorched earth > all other lobbing games |
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| 01:28.48 | klys | ~slashdot |
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| 16:42.39 | SunSparc | ~BFR |
| 16:43.53 | SunSparc | infobot: You do not know what the BFR is? |
| 16:44.26 | SunSparc | infobot: BRF is the Big Freakin Rocket from SpaceX |
| 16:44.26 | infobot | SunSparc: okay |
| 16:44.37 | SunSparc | infobot: BFR is also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BFR_(rocket) |
| 16:44.37 | infobot | okay, SunSparc |
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| 17:49.50 | jlp_znc | https://i.imgur.com/tMQpUw2.jpg |
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| 17:56.01 | RyanE | jlp_znc: so you're saying the Falcon Heavy would be useful in the Star Trek IV situation? :) |
| 17:56.16 | jlp_znc | no, Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy |
| 17:56.40 | jlp_znc | something about a sperm whale and a bowl of petunias appearing some distance above the ground |
| 17:57.08 | jlp_znc | apparently the whale had some thoughts about if the ground would be his friend. |
| 17:57.21 | jlp_znc | the bowl of petunias' only thought was "oh no, not again" |
| 17:57.59 | jlp_znc | Didn't you notice "Don't Panic" on the dash of the Tesla? |
| 18:01.47 | jlp_znc | was anyone else reminded of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MyfInT1y0c |
| 18:02.11 | RyanE | ah |
| 18:02.32 | RyanE | not a huge HGTG fan. I'm sure it's fine, but it's just not in my wheelhouse. |
| 18:02.59 | RyanE | I did see the Don't Panic, and knew it was from Hitchhiker's. |
| 18:04.14 | RyanE | I do have an awesome picture of the Falcon Heavy thrusters I took the other day. Close-up: https://www.dropbox.com/s/4dt5usmupdbop41/20180207_084545.jpg |
| 18:07.30 | jlp_znc | ~lart RyanE |
| 18:07.30 | infobot | stamps RyanE on the forehead with the official Troll marker |
| 18:11.42 | RyanE | :) |
| 18:35.46 | jima | RyanE: whip it |
| 18:35.50 | jima | into shape |
| 18:53.26 | romanovic | This looks interesting. https://github.com/mherrmann/fbs |
| 18:53.37 | romanovic | packaging for PyQt apps |
| 18:54.39 | romanovic | but, I have a problem with the licensing. It's advertised as an alternative to Electron apps. But Electron has a very permissive MIT license. |
| 19:02.13 | jlp_znc | ugh, GPL... not even LGPL, but they also want to sell a "commercial" license that isn't encumbered by the GPL? I didn't think that was allowed by the GPL. |
| 19:05.14 | jsmith | jlp_znc: You can sell GPL-licensed apps -- you just have to provide the source code to customers who ask for it |
| 19:05.42 | jsmith | jlp_znc: Nothing in the GPL precludes selling the app -- it just precludes violating the "four basic freedoms" |
| 19:09.40 | jlp_znc | No, I meant that if you attached the GPL to software, it was hard to "unattach" it. |
| 19:09.48 | jlp_znc | Maybe they fixed that. |
| 19:16.03 | jlp_znc | I think it was around the provision in GPLv2 that i fyou distribute a GPL-covered work you can not also distribute the same work without the GPL (the GPL attaches itself to the work, not the other way around). I am probably remembering this wrong and maybe it was a non-issue. |
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| 19:38.57 | spangborn | licenses youtah as GPLv3 |
| 19:59.59 | goozbach | from what I understand if you own the work you can license it as many ways as you want |
| 20:07.59 | jfindlay | looking for a job doesn't change the fact that responding to recruiters still feels like answering spam mail |
| 20:08.20 | spangborn | That's why I don't respond to recruiters |
| 20:08.32 | jfindlay | spangborn: are you looking for a job? |
| 20:09.00 | jfindlay | I've gotten some interviews out of some, but most of them are useless |
| 20:09.03 | spangborn | Passively |
| 20:09.10 | spangborn | If I see something I like, I apply |
| 20:09.16 | spangborn | But I'm not going out of my way to do so |
| 20:10.59 | romanovic | I worked with 1 recruiter during my last job search, but only because a friend referred me to him. It was a bad experience. |
| 20:12.34 | romanovic | It was like having a really bad and agressive real estate agent. Just wanted to close the deal as quickly as possible, trying to justify how his service and fees were essential to the whole job search and interview process |
| 20:13.31 | romanovic | They weren't, and just approaching companies I was already interested in directly and working with their in-house talent acquisition was a much more pleasant experience |
| 20:14.29 | romanovic | and resulted in a much higher offer than what I was getting through the recruiter |
| 20:17.09 | romanovic | jfindlay: do you get more spammy recruiter messages from independent recruiters? Or in-house recruiters? |
| 20:24.08 | jfindlay | romanovic: in house recruitment is so much better that they don't deserve to even be in the same category |
| 20:24.26 | romanovic | agreed |
| 20:24.28 | jfindlay | except for microsoft, who *outsources* their recruitment |
| 20:24.41 | jfindlay | s/their/their 'in house'/ |
| 20:26.15 | jfindlay | romanovic: I had one recruiter back in 2013 that got me my first job. Everyone else before and since then has been anywhere from aggressive real estate agent to plain time waste |
| 20:26.50 | jfindlay | and then the company he got me into skimped an never paid his commission |
| 20:29.02 | jfindlay | I stayed there less than a year |
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| 20:37.33 | programmerq | spangborn⸠Hashicorp is hiring. |
| 21:20.07 | jlp_znc | I've worked with internal recruitment, external recruiters, and direct applications and gotten jobs all three ways. my last two have been via recruiters where I would never have known the company in question was hiring if it hadn't been for the recruiter. |
| 21:21.06 | jlp_znc | I've had a few recruiters that were a pleasure to work with and a few that have been overly hands on. "I need you to call me right after the interview and tell me how it went!" |
| 22:55.27 | goozbach | jlp_znc: you're at lendio now? |
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| 23:20.39 | jlp_znc | yep, for a few months now. |
