| 00:10.14 | TodPunk | I pay $89/month for gigabit up/down, but I built my house in a place with it for a reason... >.> |
| 00:16.40 | SunSparc | TodPunk: Who is your provider? |
| 00:16.54 | TodPunk | CenturyLink, though Comcast is also an option |
| 00:17.23 | romanovic | From a consumer standpoint, I just want all ISPs to stop pretending that last-mile infrastructure, internet "service", and the vast millions of users and sources of content on the internet come together in one bundle offered by the ISP |
| 00:17.30 | SunSparc | A gigabit from CenturyLink? Wow. They do not offer anything near that in my area. |
| 00:18.01 | SunSparc | romanovic: Yeah, that would be nice. |
| 00:18.31 | SunSparc | Seems like a good idea to have infrastructure separate from service. |
| 00:18.41 | SunSparc | Like roads. |
| 00:20.26 | romanovic | yeah. "connect my house to the fiber node next door. route my packets down the street to the next leg of their journey, and you don't need to worry about anything else after that" |
| 00:22.46 | SunSparc | Someday. But that probably will not come from a corporation. :) |
| 00:23.16 | SunSparc | Well, maybe, there are ways to monetize that, I am sure. |
| 00:23.22 | SunSparc | Anyway, see yall. |
| 00:45.07 | moccos | I was paying $45 for 60mbps up and 10mbps down on copper. last month they routed fiber into my house changed me to 100mbps up/down at the same price. I can switch to full gigabit up/down for $75. been very happy with spanish fork city, service has gone down once for just an hour in the 6 years I have been with them. |
| 00:48.57 | romanovic | comcast is the only service >20mbps available at my house, and it goes down once every 4-5 weeks :( |
| 00:52.38 | romanovic | lately it has happened a lot in the 11pm - 7am window (maintenance?) for multiple hours, and I wonder if they decide we won't consider it downtime if it's not when reasonable people are awake and online |
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| 17:11.46 | frostyfrog | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_UmWdcTrrc |
| 17:20.09 | jlp_znc | I had the century link guys come by a couple of weeks ago. they were touting their "up to 40 Mbps". I asked them what I could actually get at my location. |
| 17:20.27 | jlp_znc | they hemmed and hawed a bit, made a phone call, and came back with 1.5 Mbps. |
| 17:20.33 | jima | i have a 100/100 circuit with them but you don't want to pay for that one |
| 17:20.40 | jima | "i" |
| 17:21.07 | CrowderSoup | Had that same thing at our old house in West Jordan... So pricey |
| 17:21.12 | jlp_znc | the copper in the ground in my neighborhood is 50 years old. |
| 17:21.26 | CrowderSoup | Now I live in a neighborhood with Google Fiber but they can't install it at my house specifically for some reason that they won't tell me |
| 17:21.27 | jima | jlp_znc: this is fiber, of course. |
| 17:21.41 | jima | CrowderSoup: because ISPing is HARD |
| 17:21.57 | CrowderSoup | ha, like... my NEIGHBORS have it |
| 17:22.18 | jlp_znc | yeah, in my neighborhood they have fiber to the big box on the corner (where there used to be a big mux... no idea what tech is in there now). then it's over the ancient noisy copper to each house. |
| 17:22.31 | CrowderSoup | But the good news is that I probably get the worlds best Comcast service because Google Fiber is in the neighborhood |
| 17:22.46 | jlp_znc | even though my house is less than 100 feet from that box, the copper is so old and corroded that they can't do any better than 1.5. |
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| 17:23.27 | jlp_znc | (plus it probably doesn't go in a straight line from my house to that box. I think it goes to a box in my neighbor's back yard, and from there probably down the street before it doubles back to the fiber box) |
| 17:23.31 | CrowderSoup | jlp_znc: That sucks, a couple houses ago was like that... Finally got them to actually replace in the lines in the ground because the whole neighborhood banded togetehr and threatened to cancel |
| 17:23.50 | jlp_znc | I think 90+% of my neighborhood is on comcast. |
| 17:24.03 | jima | jlp_znc: it also goes to magna first |
| 17:24.19 | CrowderSoup | Yeah, I hate giving Comcast $$ but its my only option for decent internet at this point |
| 17:24.29 | jlp_znc | I keep asking UTOPIA when they will finish building out the network in my city, and they keep telling me "not this year". for 12.5 years now. |
| 17:25.14 | jlp_znc | utopia: "look at Murray, one of our greatest achivements! one of our earliest installations of fiber to the home!" |
| 17:25.20 | jlp_znc | except my neighborhood. |
| 17:25.54 | jlp_znc | go less than mile in any direction and you can get utopia. |
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| 17:43.44 | jlp_znc | Heh, just checked the centurylink site... "Your address qualifies you for speeds up to 60 Mbps!" there's that "up to" again. |
| 17:44.40 | frostyfrog | Sneaky, sneaky |
| 17:49.06 | CrowderSoup | I hate that "Up To" terminology! |
| 18:04.27 | frostyfrog | down to 1.0 mbps |
| 18:04.58 | frostyfrog | s/mbps/kbps/ |
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| 18:50.44 | jlp_znc | well, end of an era... linode is force migrating all xen linodes to kvm (because of the meltdown vulnerability). |
| 18:54.15 | programmerq | oh interesting |
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| 18:57.20 | keldwud | hey how do I "factory reset" my postgres? |
| 18:57.27 | keldwud | I want it like it was when I first install |
| 18:58.39 | spangborn | jlp_znc: You can get 60mbps down, but still only 5 up |
| 18:58.54 | programmerq | keldwud⸠sudo find / -delete |
| 18:58.56 | programmerq | runs away |
| 18:59.28 | programmerq | keldwud⸠99% sure it's going to boil down to killing /var/lib/postgres and reverting any config changes you may have done in /etc |
| 18:59.29 | keldwud | programmerq: that would definitely kind of accomplish what I specified |
| 18:59.48 | programmerq | but I'm not as familiar with postgres so it's possible I may be unaware of another step. |
| 19:00.21 | keldwud | sudo -U pgsql initdb |
| 19:01.12 | jlp_znc | keldwud: apt-get purge postgres; apt-get install postgres |
| 19:01.24 | jlp_znc | (assuming debian-ish distro) |
| 19:01.42 | keldwud | "This did not remove existing DB + users (as of Postgres 9.5) â Sebastian Wagner Jul 3 '17 at 14:27" |
| 19:11.15 | keldwud | https://serverfault.com/questions/574474/completely-reset-postgresql-to-default |
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| 19:49.46 | romanovic | Anyone have their kids in charter schools? Is there one around SLC designed for children who are going to be covert agents / international thieves when they grow up? |
| 19:51.04 | romanovic | Having defeated every type of child lock that can be bought over the internet, my 4yo got through an actual key-lock doorknob 1 day after installation |
| 19:51.17 | romanovic | 's head explodes |
| 19:52.45 | romanovic | First she tried every key on every keychain in the house that she could track down. When none of them worked, she went and found an unopened doorknob box from the hardware store, took the key for that doorknob (which was not a match for the doorknob she was trying to break into), and somehow used that key as a bump key and got the doorknob open |
| 19:54.26 | romanovic | and this after scaling the door to release the steel door-top safety lock, which she learned to defeat several weeks ago so it is effectively useless |
| 20:00.15 | programmerq | sounds like /r/thathappened material |
| 20:01.48 | braxtron | just keep building ever complicated locking mechanisms and save on charter school. that tot don't need teachers. |
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| 20:41.28 | spangborn | romanovic: holy crap that's impressive |
| 20:41.41 | spangborn | Move doorknobs to top of door |
| 20:42.11 | romanovic | maybe I should just stop fighting it and bring her to lockpick night |
| 20:43.38 | spangborn | What if the compromising the lock is just the fun part |
| 20:43.44 | spangborn | maybe buy her a bunch of locks |
| 20:43.50 | spangborn | and let her attack those |
| 20:45.18 | romanovic | that's an interesting idea. also, maybe make the doorknob on the door a decoy that she can lock and unlock all she wants, but is not actually the mechanism keeping the door locked |
| 21:00.10 | frostyfrog | xD |
| 21:00.31 | frostyfrog | And have a wireless door lock |
| 21:01.21 | frostyfrog | If you do bring her to lockpick night, that is something that I'd have to come to to see for myself. |
| 21:01.25 | jlp_znc | yeah, then she can learn how to hack the wireless lock! |
| 21:02.43 | frostyfrog | Then you could bring her to regular hacknight xD |
| 21:03.16 | frostyfrog | (I'm sorry, that laugh was a spur of the moment thing. This really isn't a funny issue. :( ) |
| 21:08.57 | beelzebob | romanovic: https://i.redd.it/mluaz8sv0uc01.jpg |
| 21:09.37 | beelzebob | although from what I hear, that probably wouldn't be much of a deterrent |
| 21:10.09 | SunSparc | Whoa! Lockpicking night? Tell me more. |
| 21:11.11 | SunSparc | At our last Cub Scout Pack Meeting we had breakout boxes that had, I think, 5 different types of locks that the kids had to figure out how to open with clues. They had a lot of fun. |
| 21:11.58 | frostyfrog | beelzebob: That wastebin to the left looks like it'd help. |
| 21:50.03 | SunSparc | Another successful launch by SpaceX. |
| 21:50.07 | SunSparc | ~SpaceX++ |
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| 22:40.05 | goozbach | is this thing on? |
| 22:44.47 | goozbach | ~botsnack |
| 22:44.47 | infobot | goozbach: :) |
| 22:44.50 | goozbach | yay! |
| 22:45.09 | spangborn | ~nachos goozbach |
| 22:45.09 | infobot | ACTION squeezes nacho cheese all over goozbach and turns goozbach into a tasty nacho treat |
| 22:45.24 | jlp_znc | ~middleman |
| 22:45.24 | infobot | Profanity cheapens the soul and weakens the mind. |
| 22:45.46 | goozbach | ohh ZNC is nice! |
| 22:46.00 | goozbach | now to make my znc container start on boot! |
| 22:46.59 | frostyfrog | That's so old school ;p |
| 22:48.25 | frostyfrog | Then again, it's not like I've found anything |
| 22:48.42 | frostyfrog | new |
| 23:19.17 | SunSparc | ~new frostyfrog |
| 23:19.17 | infobot | botAbusers<Loser *>.push_back(new frostyfrog); |
| 23:22.41 | frostyfrog | huh |
| 23:34.03 | SunSparc | yeah |
| 23:35.07 | SunSparc | ~brave |
| 23:35.07 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, brave is a browser with your interests at heart, or https://www.brave.com/ |
| 23:35.15 | SunSparc | ~karma brave |
| 23:35.15 | infobot | brave has karma of 17 |
| 23:35.20 | SunSparc | ~brave++ |
| 23:35.28 | SunSparc | ~karma SpaceX |
| 23:35.28 | infobot | spacex has karma of 1 |
| 23:35.42 | SunSparc | ~karma BitCoin |
| 23:35.42 | infobot | bitcoin has neutral karma |
| 23:35.54 | SunSparc | ~karma frostyfrog |
| 23:35.54 | infobot | frostyfrog has karma of 2 |
| 23:39.26 | spangborn | ~braveâ |
| 23:39.37 | SunSparc | ~karma spangborn |
| 23:39.37 | infobot | spangborn has karma of -102 |
| 23:39.44 | SunSparc | wow |
| 23:39.45 | spangborn | Rofl |
| 23:40.17 | fungus | ~bitcoin-- |
| 23:40.25 | SunSparc | ~karma fungus |
| 23:40.25 | infobot | fungus has karma of 124 |
| 23:40.31 | SunSparc | Oooohh... |
| 23:42.10 | fungus | ~SunSparc++ |
| 23:42.20 | SunSparc | ~woot |
| 23:42.20 | infobot | \o/ |
| 23:42.40 | SunSparc | ~fungus++ |
| 23:43.13 | fungus | ~spangborn++ |
| 23:48.02 | frostyfrog | ~woot++ |
