| 00:00.15 | programmerq | best part was I told the first phone number my name was Mike and only spelled my last name. The second caller I only said "Mike" and gave my number and he put the first and last name together from the first call: "Mike Rotch" I thought the gig was up when he said it out loud |
| 00:00.18 | programmerq | but he kept going. |
| 00:00.40 | jlp_znc | oh dear |
| 00:00.58 | programmerq | I told them my city was schenectedy, NY so that I could tell them my zip code was 12345 |
| 00:01.05 | programmerq | but I figured that might mess things up |
| 00:01.15 | programmerq | so I gave an alternate zip for the same city |
| 00:01.51 | jlp_znc | https://consumercomplaints.fcc.gov/hc/en-us |
| 00:02.04 | programmerq | unfortunately, their initial call was from an unmarked number |
| 00:02.11 | programmerq | and I called both numbers in question |
| 00:02.20 | programmerq | not sure if they take those sort of complaints? |
| 00:02.26 | programmerq | the second number was a googl voice number. |
| 00:03.25 | jlp_znc | well, they ought to be able to track it down. the initial call was illegal, but the additional information you have should help them figure out where it came from |
| 00:07.47 | frostyfrog | IIRC, anything claiming to be "federal" they take fairly seriously. |
| 00:13.48 | jlp_znc | do you by chance have recordings of the calls? |
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| 18:26.00 | frostyfrog | Hey, aeryndunham. Do you know anything about the maritime radios used on cruise ships, or if amateur radio operators have brought radios aboard in the past? (I'm a little surprised that youtah didn't jump in to ask the question) |
| 18:26.25 | aeryndunham | Hmmm, I actually don't |
| 18:26.38 | aeryndunham | there are obviously radios on the bridge but they aren't something I am familiar with |
| 18:27.03 | aeryndunham | and I'm sure someone at some point has brought a radio on but I've never heard anything |
| 18:27.09 | aeryndunham | sorry to be so staggeringly unhelpful :p |
| 18:28.30 | frostyfrog | Oh, no. you're fine. I wasn't sure if you knew or not, but you obviously have more experience than I do about being on a cruise ship. :p |
| 18:28.42 | aeryndunham | knows some stuff sometimes :p |
| 18:29.04 | frostyfrog | exactly ;) |
| 18:29.29 | frostyfrog | "We are heading out on a cruise tomorrow, but I had to leave my HTs at home because the last time I tried to take them on board, they confiscated them. I think I am going through withdrawals." ~ A fellow ham operator |
| 18:34.47 | frostyfrog | Technically, amateur radio operators are allowed to use their radios on planes and boats. IFF they get permission to do so from the captain, and they operate in accordance to the laws of the country they are in or the craft is registered to. |
| 18:34.54 | frostyfrog | Depending on where you are. |
| 18:39.59 | aeryndunham | Makes sense |
| 18:40.15 | aeryndunham | But "getting permission from the captain" isn't super simply, it's not like you can stroll up to his office :p |
| 18:40.30 | aeryndunham | Although you could always turn in a letter at the desk and ask for it to be passed on to him |
| 18:41.15 | frostyfrog | Ah, xD |
| 18:41.46 | frostyfrog | Bridge security for the captain for ship safety reasons, makes sense. |
| 18:46.38 | aeryndunham | I mean more like just "crew area" in general is off-limits |
| 18:46.43 | aeryndunham | The bridge doubly so |
| 18:46.50 | aeryndunham | but you can't just go strolling up to ANYONE's office |
| 18:47.50 | aeryndunham | Fun fact, on one ship the Customer Service's Director office usually had the door open and a curtain drawn just for a little privacy, and an angry passenger was in a meeting with her and got so mad he pulled the curtains down |
| 18:51.06 | frostyfrog | :o |
| 18:51.26 | frostyfrog | wow |
| 18:51.32 | aeryndunham | We didn't like that guy |
| 18:53.17 | frostyfrog | Sounds like he needs some anger management therapy or something. |
| 18:54.01 | frostyfrog | or a bit more patience |
| 19:03.19 | aeryndunham | He kept getting drunk and belligerent so he was no longer allowed to purchase alcohol onboard and he was ~unhappy~ about it |
| 19:06.09 | jlp_znc | http://www.newyearexercise.com/ |
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| 19:07.11 | youtah | https://hackernoon.com/im-harvesting-credit-card-numbers-and-passwords-from-your-site-here-s-how-9a8cb347c5b5 |
| 19:07.16 | youtah | Fun little read |
| 19:07.20 | youtah | regarding XSS |
| 19:07.23 | youtah | and more |
| 19:07.51 | youtah | "Iâd see it in your source on GitHub! Your innocence warms my heart." << favorite quote |
| 19:46.37 | jlp_znc | I never did like javascript |
| 19:48.32 | jlp_znc | https://brython.info/ |
| 20:10.57 | josephscott | that is both impressive and disturbing at the same time :-) |
| 20:55.43 | youtah | lol josephscott yeah |
| 20:55.55 | youtah | especially after reading the whole thing in it's entirety |
| 20:56.35 | youtah | but it does make a great point at just randomly accepting Open Source packages, and not even thinking about their dependencies. |
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| 21:00.05 | youtah | aeryndunham, so no idea on the HF gear on the cruise ships eh? |
| 21:00.34 | youtah | I heard frostyfrog chatted with you about this earlier |
| 21:00.48 | aeryndunham | No, sadly. I do feel like it's the sort of thing that would raise eyebrows at security so you'd almost want to ask the cruise line you were going on before you left they have any kind of official policy |
| 21:01.39 | youtah | I remember being... 16? and we went on a cruise and toured the bridge. Got to meet the captain, touch the captains wheel, see the nav gear, etc |
| 21:02.10 | youtah | I know that the FCC requires permission from the Captain of a ship prior to sending transmissions from the ship |
| 21:02.14 | youtah | docked or at sea |
| 21:03.04 | youtah | and I have chatted with Cruise Liners before on 14MHz, so I know they have the tech |
| 21:03.07 | aeryndunham | It's honestly the sort of thing you'd likely to be able to arrange prior to the voyage |
| 21:03.19 | youtah | yeah |
| 21:03.29 | youtah | especially if you knew the captain was a HAM as well |
| 21:03.41 | youtah | then he'd probably be super excited |
| 21:11.25 | frostyfrog | youtah: That link was pretty epic! |
| 21:11.38 | youtah | Right?! |
| 21:12.30 | frostyfrog | One of my major gripes is people using package managers for languages. There's a package manager for node, and ruby, and python, and c++, and ... |
| 21:12.38 | frostyfrog | They are all prone to this kind of thing. |
| 21:12.49 | frostyfrog | all of them |
| 21:13.32 | frostyfrog | It annoys the crap out of me that they don't just rely on the system package managers or including the libraries in the package. |
| 21:14.31 | frostyfrog | (which is still prone to changes like this, but it causes eyebrows to raise when a simple package requires 30 other packages to be installed.) |
| 21:17.34 | unum | my old s5 was still sitting in a box so I'm moving back to it for now |
| 21:18.00 | unum | the company is leaning towards giving us a per diem type thing for our cell phones |
| 21:18.13 | unum | so they don't want to replace my phone and sign a contract |
| 21:18.28 | unum | maybe I'll just buy an s9 myself in march |
| 21:18.36 | unum | galaxy s9 |
| 21:18.48 | unum | these are all galaxies |
| 21:34.54 | unum | sim cards are different sizes |
| 21:35.05 | unum | can't reactivate old sim card over phone..... |
| 21:35.09 | unum | grrrrrrrr..... |
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| 21:47.50 | frostyfrog | o.o |
| 21:48.04 | frostyfrog | I only know of 2 different sizes of sim cards |
| 21:48.22 | frostyfrog | 3 if you include Google's new "eSIM" cards |
| 22:01.54 | jlp_znc | aren't there three now? standard, micro, and nano? |
| 22:02.28 | jlp_znc | https://iihelp.iinet.net.au/SIM_card_sizes_explained |
| 22:02.53 | jlp_znc | but there are adapters available if you have a nano and need, say, a micro. |
| 22:03.12 | frostyfrog | I thought that there were two. One for the US (generally) and one for europe, though I could be highly incorrect in that assumption. |
| 22:03.35 | jlp_znc | https://www.ebay.com/i/232366680009?chn=ps |
| 22:04.25 | jlp_znc | I'm pretty sure that if you take your unlocked US phone to Europe, you can buy a SIM from a shop that is tied to a pay as you go plan, shove it in your phone, and it just works. |
| 22:05.55 | programmerq | ^^ I've done that a few times. |
| 22:06.25 | programmerq | spain, netherlands, malaysia |
| 22:06.34 | programmerq | maybe india, don't remember if I did it on that trip |
| 22:06.50 | frostyfrog | Cool :) |
| 22:07.23 | programmerq | oh, ireland too |
| 22:07.43 | frostyfrog | Sounds like you get around |
| 22:08.23 | programmerq | yeah, I make it known I'm happy to go do trainings or conferences or whatever |
| 22:08.34 | programmerq | I get to travel internationally once a year or so (give or take) |
| 22:08.46 | programmerq | sometimes twice in one year, sometimes never during one year |
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