| 00:03.51 | jlp_znc | https://xkcd.com/1934/ |
| 00:29.31 | shalkie | Oh, I thought it was the use of red to color text. |
| 00:29.49 | shalkie | In the first it is just the domain name, in the second it is location and domain. |
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| 01:20.13 | *** topic/#utah is Utah related discussion including user groups | logs @ http://infobot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | See also ##lds |
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| 06:10.25 | klys | ~slashdot |
| 07:19.30 | klys | T.S.Monson has passed away as of 10pm MST this evening, roughly two hours ago. The oldest serving Apostle is R.M.Nelson. The First Presidency is dissolved as this event has transpired. |
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| 14:19.25 | eightyeight | RIP Thomas S. Monson |
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| 16:13.06 | jima | my condolences to anyone impacted by his passing. :-\ |
| 16:15.03 | jima | youtah: i'm not sure if people in here were just being difficult, but i spotted it the second i saw that tweet yesterday :-P |
| 16:15.19 | jima | youtah: but weirdly i happened upon that before the news about hatch |
| 16:16.57 | programmerq | I'm both quite happy about hatch and a little disappointed that he didn't get outed by losing an election. |
| 16:21.41 | jima | i 100% get what you mean, but i'm honestly not sure that could ever happen here. |
| 16:22.27 | programmerq | ^^ exactly why I'm disappointed |
| 16:22.44 | eightyeight | i'm less troubled by a romney senator than hatch though |
| 16:22.44 | jima | i mean, maybe he was playing a weird game of political chicken where he kept expecting to get called out on his hypocrisy about term limits |
| 16:23.00 | programmerq | some people tried |
| 16:23.05 | jima | and finally concluded "wow, they don't get the joke" |
| 16:23.24 | jima | "i only got re-elected ironically!" |
| 16:23.42 | jima | eightyeight: same, and i'm not really a fan of romney. |
| 16:23.42 | programmerq | I went to a political meetup at one point about how to get hatch out. the guy running the meeting caught someone recording and asked them point blank if they worked for hatch. they did, and the dude was super rude about asking him to leave. |
| 16:23.47 | programmerq | was a really big turnoff |
| 16:23.57 | jima | romney just feels more ethical to me |
| 16:24.20 | jima | i may not agree with his politics, but i don't get the same "i'll do anything to get ahead" vibe |
| 16:24.21 | eightyeight | jima: also same. but if i had to pick between the two... |
| 16:24.48 | jima | the lds factor doesn't sway me at all (for semi-obvious reasons) |
| 16:25.13 | programmerq | dems in utah need to really step up their game. |
| 16:25.41 | jima | dems in utah...need to rally around a more centrist candidate, i think. |
| 16:25.54 | programmerq | that would certainly help. |
| 16:26.27 | programmerq | I decided a few cycles ago that I'd always vote against hatch and try to prefer non-incumbant candidates. |
| 16:27.05 | jima | i don't disagree with that. hatch has been in office too long, especially given his original campaign premise. |
| 16:27.14 | programmerq | I still register R so I can vote in R primaries. |
| 16:27.20 | programmerq | but I don't really identify as R anymore |
| 16:27.21 | jima | which, granted, was well before i was born. |
| 16:27.47 | programmerq | I feel much more moderate/independant |
| 16:27.58 | jima | same |
| 16:28.24 | jima | i agree with and disagree with some of both main parties' perspectives. |
| 16:28.56 | jima | my sweet spot is some weird jagged line in between their polar bonkers-ness. |
| 16:29.22 | programmerq | I wonder how the country would change if we were able to successfully change elections to a ranked choice system. It'd allow multiple parties to come into power more easily. |
| 16:29.34 | jima | oh, that would be marvelous |
| 16:29.58 | jlp_znc | nah, that would never work. imagine how many aisles they would have to have in congress. |
| 16:29.59 | jima | "this is the one i really want in office and this one is my safe backup" |
| 16:30.09 | eightyeight | i'm an outspoken raging socialist liberal. everyone who doesn't agree with me is wrong. esp. on facebook. |
| 16:30.13 | eightyeight | ( ͡° ÍÊ Í¡Â°) |
| 16:30.23 | jlp_znc | I don't think there is enough room to move the desks around like that. |
| 16:30.33 | jima | jlp_znc: screw that. let it become more fractured. as it stands, it's terribly divided anyway. |
| 16:30.41 | programmerq | I don't know enough policital science to really understand what all the "consequences" would be of such a change, but it seems like it could address several negative aspects of this asenine two-party system we're in. |
| 16:31.11 | jima | it would become more expensive for lobbyists. ;-) |
| 16:31.24 | jima | "crap, now we have to pay off TEN parties' candidates!!" |
| 16:31.47 | jima | i'm going to lose a lot of sleep over that |
| 16:32.09 | jima | jlp_znc: i hope your example of desk layout as a blocker was in jest, btw |
| 16:32.26 | jlp_znc | did I need to add a smiley? |
| 16:32.40 | jima | stopping real political progress over where desks sit would be a fitting homage to the current political landscape. |
| 16:32.57 | jima | jlp_znc: poe's law. |
| 16:33.05 | jlp_znc | my point is that you will never get the existing people to agree to a change, since it works so well for them. |
| 16:33.38 | programmerq | right, that's the hard part |
| 16:34.18 | programmerq | I was raised thinking that the US was one of the best countries on the face of the planet, but as I get older and see more and more from around the world I don't buy that anymore. |
| 16:35.16 | jima | yes |
| 16:35.19 | programmerq | I don't think it's practical to move overseas with a young family "just because", however. |
| 16:35.41 | jima | i concur, but i have a 7-person household (granted, only two kids). |
| 16:36.34 | jlp_znc | what would the tax implications be for a remote worker emmigrating to, say, canada? |
| 16:36.36 | programmerq | but I'd entertain the idea if I had an employer ask me to do it, but that's not terribly likely. My current employer may have been willing to make it happen if I had been lobbying for it, but we're getting big enough in europe now that they would rather do direct local hires instead of transplant a US techie. |
| 16:37.27 | jima | programmerq: my employer's presence in europe is largely organic, so yeah, i understand. |
| 16:37.48 | jima | i have counterparts there, but they report to a different management chain to up on high |
| 16:38.18 | jima | any "lateral" move would be a demotion for me |
| 16:38.32 | programmerq | I mean, if I really *wanted* to, I imagine I'd have some success attempting to find a job in europe on the open market. |
| 16:38.38 | programmerq | but muh |
| 16:38.50 | programmerq | it's too big a "reaction" to "feeling disenfranchised" |
| 16:38.52 | jima | jlp_znc: no idea. |
| 16:39.13 | jima | i don't know if i could...making enough to support my household would be hard. |
| 16:39.20 | programmerq | at the same time, it would likely provide a unique and amazing childhood experience for my kids-- getting to live in a foreign country for at least a while. |
| 16:39.35 | jima | i'm already afraid i've priced myself out of the local job market, much less a foreign one |
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| 16:43.16 | aeryndunham | Power went out for a minute there. How rude. |
| 16:43.32 | jima | aeryndunham: uh-oh, in florida? |
| 16:43.48 | aeryndunham | Yeah |
| 16:44.02 | jima | squints and tries to remember if he has any equipment at that office NOT on ups |
| 16:44.05 | aeryndunham | It's raining but barely? It seems to happen more often than anywhere else I've lived though |
| 16:44.21 | jima | oh oh oh, i know |
| 16:44.27 | aeryndunham | I'm also glad that I was working in Google Docs otherwise that could have been a disaster |
| 16:45.29 | jima | logs into his miami beach unifi controller |
| 16:46.08 | jima | i'm pretty sure some of these switches don't have ups...so it looks like it was pretty localized. |
| 16:46.33 | aeryndunham | Yeah probably |
| 16:46.40 | aeryndunham | I'm not particularly close to Miami Beach |
| 16:47.01 | jima | i forget. florida is pretty vague to me. ;-) |
| 16:47.05 | aeryndunham | I honestly think it's just my apartment building that has these blips all the time |
| 16:47.17 | aeryndunham | at home and not work because she's hiding from a problem |
| 16:47.25 | jima | (granted, i've never been there, so...) |
| 16:47.28 | aeryndunham | heh |
| 16:47.43 | aeryndunham | I'm about 25 minutes from Miami Beach |
| 16:47.46 | aeryndunham | if no traffic |
| 16:47.54 | programmerq | aeryndunham⸠you should get a UPS |
| 16:47.58 | aeryndunham | Yeah, I know |
| 16:48.00 | jima | i'm about 2000 miles from miami beach. |
| 16:48.24 | programmerq | I have a UPS for my desk where I use my laptop, lol |
| 16:48.40 | programmerq | my monitor and desk phone can continue running on it at least. |
| 16:49.53 | jima | i'm managed IT for this office for 6 years...coordinated the installation of numerous circuits...and never been closer than 600 miles or so. |
| 16:50.09 | aeryndunham | Crazy! |
| 16:50.22 | jima | and that was only because of a layover at ATL :-P |
| 16:50.34 | aeryndunham | Layovers don't count :p |
| 16:51.03 | jima | then 900+ miles :-P |
| 16:51.04 | aeryndunham | I'm trying to explain what I do at work in resume bullet points and I can't. Hah. I don't know what I do. |
| 16:52.00 | jima | you optimize synergenistic...ok, i can't do this with a straight face, sorry |
| 16:59.16 | aeryndunham | hah |
| 16:59.59 | jima | i just used https://jima.us/pix/fedora/pony.jpg in work IM |
| 17:00.03 | jima | (sfw) |
| 17:00.17 | aeryndunham | hahaha amazing |
| 17:00.44 | aeryndunham | I just responded to a meeting invite with "sure, I'll dial in, but I don't think I work here anymore" |
| 17:01.07 | jima | my boss seems to be humoring my complaints today...i was complaining about never getting budget to replace our aging, dying storage system in $remote_facility and he got the ball rolling on getting a quote |
| 17:01.15 | aeryndunham | Yay! |
| 17:01.41 | jima | i complained about the tenancy in our ticketing system, and he started an email chain about removing tenancy |
| 17:02.07 | jima | so i followed up with "Our department doesn't have a pony." and that image |
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| 17:07.17 | spangborn | Your department needs a pony |
| 17:07.53 | aeryndunham | I don't see how you can be expected to work without a departmental pony, tbh |
| 17:08.25 | spangborn | I'm pretty sure a lack of pony is a violation of the geneva convention |
| 17:08.32 | programmerq | I'd enjoy working at an office that had an office dog, or at least allowed dogs. |
| 17:08.40 | spangborn | I wish I could bring my dogs to work |
| 17:08.53 | spangborn | But I'd probably get nothing done because I'd be yelling at them to get off the desk |
| 17:09.26 | programmerq | my dog could be trained to act properly in an office setting. she'd get antsy by the end of the day (still under 2 year old golden retriever) |
| 17:09.32 | aeryndunham | I actually tried to lobby for a ship dog for a while |
| 17:09.52 | programmerq | sometimes there is a vision-assist dog on board ships. |
| 17:10.00 | aeryndunham | Yeah, occasionally |
| 17:10.05 | programmerq | at least, there was one when I wont on my cruise. |
| 17:10.17 | programmerq | I always feel happy when I see a dog doing a job in public. |
| 17:10.32 | programmerq | went* |
| 17:10.44 | aeryndunham | One of my fave things to ever happen was a woman rocking up to the ship with her pomeranian and trying to tell everyone it was a service dog, despite having literally nothing to show for this |
| 17:11.06 | aeryndunham | and the crew were like "even if you HAD certification with you, approval for a dog onboard needs to be done blah blah days in advance" |
| 17:11.20 | aeryndunham | so then the woman makes the obvious choice of PUTTING HER DOG IN HER SUITCASE |
| 17:11.20 | programmerq | generally, there's no requirement to carry certification for service dogs (in most states) |
| 17:11.24 | aeryndunham | and trying to smuggle it onboard |
| 17:12.02 | aeryndunham | The fake service dogs used to drive us nuts onboard |
| 17:12.39 | aeryndunham | Didn't see too many, fortunately |
| 17:12.55 | aeryndunham | But like.... one dude's "service dog" was constantly chasing kids around the ship and peeing everywhere |
| 17:13.25 | programmerq | was that not a "get kicked off the ship" type event? |
| 17:13.39 | aeryndunham | I think it was a "please never sail with us again" event |
| 17:16.25 | aeryndunham | I remember other passsengers ripping into the guy with that dog, it was great |
| 17:17.24 | aeryndunham | About how they didn't like leaving their dogs home either but they weren't going to stoop so low as pretend theirs was a service dog |
| 17:18.22 | jima | yeah, the whole fake service dog thing is frustrating |
| 17:18.34 | jima | legally speaking, there's not a lot of recourse as per ADA |
| 17:18.43 | aeryndunham | Pretty shitty thing to do though |
| 17:19.03 | jima | the regs protect the jokers along with the legitimately needy, unfortunately. |
| 17:19.19 | youtah | I am fairly certain, that there isn't a single person, that could not beat out Mitt in Utah |
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| 17:20.16 | youtah | wait |
| 17:20.21 | youtah | that came out wrong |
| 17:20.29 | youtah | I don't think there is a single person, that could beat Mitt |
| 17:20.32 | youtah | there |
| 17:24.23 | aeryndunham | dang the wind has picked up here |
| 17:28.01 | SunSparc | youtah: Are you running against Mitt? |
| 17:28.42 | aeryndunham | Well, the content needs tweaking, but my resume is definitely nice to look at! |
| 17:29.27 | SunSparc | Congrats. Good looking resumes are nice to have. |
| 17:30.26 | jima | aeryndunham: latex from https://i.pinimg.com/564x/5b/37/21/5b37217e33bc1c631e394fbc46c920ed--programming-languages-computer-programming.jpg springs to mind |
| 17:30.59 | aeryndunham | hahaha |
| 17:31.11 | aeryndunham | I actually conteplated trying to do it in latex |
| 17:31.15 | jima | whereas mine is the html one |
| 17:32.25 | spangborn | out of context, this conversation would be very different |
| 17:32.30 | aeryndunham | haha |
| 17:32.40 | spangborn | especially aeryndunham's last message |
| 17:32.45 | spangborn | and my brain parsed it as such initially |
| 17:32.56 | spangborn | and I had a "Whoa what is going on in here" moment |
| 17:33.07 | aeryndunham | hahaha |
| 17:33.30 | spangborn | Sorry, I'm terrible |
| 17:34.49 | aeryndunham | so I want to apply for a job that I'm very sure I'd be good at but I don't meet the literally one listed requirement >.< |
| 17:35.04 | SunSparc | ~latex |
| 17:35.05 | infobot | rumour has it, latex is nice on a woman, but LaTeX (pronounced la tech) is a set of macros for the TeX document formatting system. awesome, or http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Software/Typesetting/TeX/LaTeX/, or read The Not-So-Short Guide to LaTeX : http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/info/lshort/english/, or http://www.tex.ac.uk/ |
| 17:35.29 | aeryndunham | apologises for not properly capitalizing LaTeX |
| 17:35.41 | SunSparc | lol |
| 17:36.04 | spangborn | infobot: thatâs sexist |
| 17:36.12 | spangborn | Latex could be nice on a man too, for all I know |
| 17:36.23 | SunSparc | begs to disagree |
| 17:36.25 | SunSparc | :) |
| 17:36.33 | aeryndunham | Some dudes can definitely pull it off |
| 17:36.45 | SunSparc | Some |
| 17:36.59 | aeryndunham | It's not as though all women can successfully wear it either |
| 17:37.02 | aeryndunham | would look ridiculous |
| 17:37.09 | SunSparc | lol |
| 17:37.12 | SunSparc | touche |
| 17:38.13 | spangborn | I've sprayed myself with latex before |
| 17:38.21 | spangborn | (My bikes use a latex tire sealant) |
| 17:39.09 | SunSparc | needs to ride his bike to work more... |
| 17:39.57 | spangborn | I rode home last night |
| 17:39.59 | spangborn | it was a mistake |
| 17:40.04 | spangborn | Jordan River Parkway was covered in ice |
| 17:40.19 | aeryndunham | yikes |
| 17:40.42 | RyanE | scary |
| 17:40.57 | SunSparc | Oooh, yeah, that is less than optimal. |
| 17:41.10 | RyanE | Also less than optimal: I managed to get to work this morning without bringing my work laptop. Duh. |
| 17:41.20 | SunSparc | lol |
| 17:41.24 | SunSparc | has done that |
| 17:41.49 | RyanE | I'm using my 'dev box' for browser along with my normal 3 terminals, it's struggling... |
| 17:41.57 | SunSparc | Makes getting things done more challenging. |
| 17:42.00 | RyanE | fortunately, I can hit most everything via web access. |
| 17:42.38 | SunSparc | That is good. |
| 17:43.14 | RyanE | ironically, the one exception is our own installer software... :) Fortunately, I don't think I'll need to add or delete any drivers from my system today. |
| 17:43.22 | RyanE | It's windows-only... :| |
| 17:45.32 | spangborn | I'm sorry |
| 17:45.47 | spangborn | Types spangborn, from his garbage windows laptop |
| 17:46.23 | RyanE | eh, usually I'm running it in a Windows VM, on a mac laptop, which is getting a little long in the tooth. |
| 17:48.05 | spangborn | I have an insufferable T450 |
| 17:56.43 | jima | has a T460s now |
| 17:57.07 | jima | i think i went T410 -> T430s -> T460s |
| 18:03.05 | spangborn | jima: You missed the two worst ones |
| 18:03.08 | spangborn | T440 and T450 |
| 18:03.13 | spangborn | I have had both |
| 18:04.35 | jima | \o/ |
| 18:09.21 | spangborn | The trackpad on the T440 was the worst ever |
| 18:09.30 | spangborn | They attempted to copy Apple's trackpads |
| 18:09.32 | spangborn | but halfassed it |
| 18:12.48 | frostyfrog | yawns |
| 18:25.51 | aeryndunham | is trying to send an email but is so nervous she feels ill |
| 18:29.09 | aeryndunham | i sent it and i feel like I'm gonna hurl |
| 18:29.29 | frostyfrog | I understand that feeling :( |
| 18:47.17 | programmerq | resignation email? |
| 18:57.57 | aeryndunham | sort of, yeah |
| 19:07.21 | jsmith | aeryndunham: Don't worry -- the sick feeling will pass. Been there, done that... |
| 19:07.46 | jsmith | aeryndunham: It's hard to take that leap... but it's always worked out well for me. |
| 19:11.47 | aeryndunham | thanks |
| 20:00.18 | jima | it worked out pretty well for me the one time |
| 20:00.30 | jima | i wouldn't know all you great people otherwise :-P |
| 20:00.38 | jima | well, except jsmith, sort of |
| 20:00.49 | spangborn | I just send those to /dev/null |
| 20:01.03 | spangborn | It's the same place I forward any/all messages from youtah |
| 20:02.57 | jima | that's less "sick burn" and more acknowledging the fact that i spoke with jsmith before i ever popped into this channel. :-P |
| 20:03.27 | jsmith | jima: I got that, but thanks for clarifying -- some others might not have understood that :-) |
| 20:03.46 | spangborn | Wait people talk outside of IRC? |
| 20:03.53 | jima | also Sargun when he was in here |
| 20:04.02 | jima | spangborn: once. on the phone. ~7 years ago. |
| 20:04.16 | spangborn | Whaaaa, what's a phone? |
| 20:04.27 | jima | a thing used for interviews :-P |
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| 20:08.32 | jima | ffs, someone microwaved fish |
| 20:10.28 | romanovic | here we go, another anti fish-ite |
| 20:10.53 | romanovic | doesn't eat fish at work, but wishes he could without public shaming |
| 20:11.11 | jima | i have no qualms with people enjoying ethically prepared fish |
| 20:11.12 | spangborn | jima: lol someone in my work chat just said that |
| 20:11.39 | spangborn | "Okay, who reheated fish in SMT???" |
| 20:11.41 | jima | spangborn: uh-oh |
| 20:12.51 | romanovic | I've decided I'm going to try bringing in sardines and smoked salmon that I can put on my sandwiches cold from the refrigerator. |
| 20:13.06 | romanovic | if people can't handle it even being in the refrigerator, deal with it. |
| 20:13.18 | jima | i find that generally unoffensive |
| 20:13.43 | jima | sealed container? (ziplok if nothing else) |
| 20:13.55 | romanovic | yeah |
| 20:14.09 | jima | don't care then |
| 20:14.40 | romanovic | will stock up as soon as he finishes the leftover medisterkaker from Christmas |
| 20:16.32 | jsmith | wonders where he can buy some lutefisk |
| 20:17.11 | jima | lutefisk is the punchline of an old scandinavian joke that most people don't get. ;-) |
| 20:49.11 | aeryndunham | welp, I don't have a job anymore |
| 20:50.58 | spangborn | You quit? |
| 20:51.21 | aeryndunham | yeah |
| 20:51.34 | aeryndunham | I didn't really want to but it was a stupid situation |
| 20:52.28 | spangborn | That sounds unfortuante |
| 20:52.31 | spangborn | *unfortunate |
| 20:52.50 | romanovic | stupid, like intractable? |
| 20:57.52 | aeryndunham | Like... I was hired to do X, and then out of the blue they wanted me to do Y, for people I really don't like, doing a job I really wouldn't like, and I found out via a phonecall from a project manager being like "yo so I'm told you're my project coordinator now" and I tried to be like "but I have a job? that people depend on?" and the people I don't like were like "lol we don't care" |
| 21:40.39 | spangborn | 60min of <2w/kg https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/DyYBJ4bD/1515015625.JPG |
| 21:41.14 | frostyfrog | watches people talk about how IPv6 isn't as good as people think. |
| 21:41.26 | jima | frostyfrog: WHERE? |
| 21:41.28 | jima | ;-) |
| 21:41.30 | spangborn | this would be a nap |
| 21:41.36 | frostyfrog | #reddit-sysadmin |
| 21:41.40 | jima | ugh |
| 21:41.47 | frostyfrog | things like https://seekingalpha.com/article/3948876-google-blocking-ipv6-adoption-cogent-impacting-transit-customers |
| 21:41.48 | jima | never mind, i'll pass |
| 21:41.51 | spangborn | joins, trolls |
| 21:41.55 | frostyfrog | xD |
| 21:42.00 | jima | well...if spangborn is trolling... |
| 21:42.04 | spangborn | /nick ipv6-sucks |
| 21:42.48 | jima | spangborn: i know where you live ;-) |
| 21:42.58 | spangborn | lol |
| 21:43.18 | jima | goes to spangborn's house and plasters his front door with ipv6 stickers |
| 21:43.24 | frostyfrog | (it was specifically A-KO and Hunterkil, IIRC |
| 21:43.30 | frostyfrog | May I join in too? |
| 21:43.41 | jima | i know A-KO from #ipv6 |
| 21:45.20 | jima | biab, meeting |
| 21:49.15 | SunSparc | ~ipv6 |
| 21:49.15 | infobot | The future is now!, or http://sebastians-pamphlets.com/the-day-the-routers-died/ |
| 21:49.25 | SunSparc | ~karma ipv6 |
| 21:49.25 | infobot | ipv6 has karma of 2 |
| 21:49.32 | SunSparc | ~ipv6++ |
| 21:49.41 | SunSparc | ~karma brave |
| 21:49.41 | infobot | brave has karma of 15 |
| 21:49.45 | SunSparc | ~brave++ |
| 21:49.56 | SunSparc | :) |
| 21:51.46 | frostyfrog | I'd switch, but um... |
| 21:52.26 | frostyfrog | I don't want to change my 500 line iptable rules yet and my dhcpd configs >_> |
| 21:53.01 | SunSparc | No need to change, just add entries one at a time over the course of a year. |
| 21:53.11 | SunSparc | :) |
| 21:58.44 | spangborn | ~brave-- |
| 21:58.49 | SunSparc | lol |
| 21:58.54 | spangborn | ~youtah-- |
| 21:58.59 | spangborn | ~karma youtah |
| 21:58.59 | infobot | youtah has karma of -1 |
| 21:59.03 | spangborn | As it should be |
| 21:59.19 | frostyfrog | ~IPv6++ |
| 21:59.21 | SunSparc | I have been using Brave for a month or so now and it has been really nice. |
| 21:59.38 | frostyfrog | brave? |
| 21:59.59 | SunSparc | I actually funded my Brave wallet and they distributed that to my most frequently visited sites. |
| 22:00.13 | SunSparc | Cool new model for content/user interaction. |
| 22:00.20 | SunSparc | ~brave |
| 22:00.20 | infobot | methinks brave is a browser with your interests at heart, or https://www.brave.com/ |
| 22:01.32 | SunSparc | Built on the Chromium engine, so it is very similar to Chrome but focused on changing the problem with ads and users rewarding content creators. |
| 22:01.32 | aeryndunham | A browser I haven't heard of? insanity |
| 22:02.03 | SunSparc | What? There are still people in here that have not heard of Brave? |
| 22:02.08 | SunSparc | :D |
| 22:02.11 | aeryndunham | I'm not sure how I hadn't |
| 22:02.18 | aeryndunham | I'm usually very well versed in all browser options |
| 22:03.13 | frostyfrog | I'd heard of it before, but I didn't remember. |
| 22:03.14 | SunSparc | Brave is still fairly young. |
| 22:03.26 | SunSparc | Only a couple of years old. |
| 22:03.31 | frostyfrog | I wonder if it can handle my 1,000 tabs >_> |
| 22:04.05 | SunSparc | I am a tab heavy user, it has not complained so far. |
| 22:04.43 | frostyfrog | Oh, the other day, I learned that Edge is super memory hungry on my machine. |
| 22:05.13 | frostyfrog | Like, I didn't even have 20 tabs open, and it was using over 4 GB of ram |
| 22:05.20 | SunSparc | ~edge |
| 22:05.21 | infobot | i guess edge is When testing something in multiple browsers, and it only breaks in Microsoft Edge, does that make it an Edge Case? |
| 22:05.31 | SunSparc | lol |
| 22:06.39 | SunSparc | has yet to use Edge |
| 22:07.20 | SunSparc | I heard that Firefox was making a comeback though. My boss has been rocking it for a month or so now. |
| 22:07.30 | spangborn | I never stopped using it |
| 22:07.34 | spangborn | Quantum was a huge improvement |
| 22:07.50 | SunSparc | I use Firefox every once in a while for testing something or other. |
| 22:08.49 | SunSparc | I used to main Firefox before the Chrome advent. |
| 22:37.14 | spangborn | I prefer Firefox's developer tools |
| 22:37.36 | spangborn | Chrome and Webkit have strange organization for their tabs that doesn't make sense to my brain |
| 22:37.43 | spangborn | (in their dev tools) |
| 22:43.30 | SunSparc | Yeah, it is hard to switch between them all. |
| 22:49.25 | SunSparc | ~karma firefox |
| 22:49.25 | infobot | firefox has karma of 10 |
| 22:49.33 | SunSparc | ~karma edge |
| 22:49.33 | infobot | edge has karma of -2 |
| 22:49.37 | SunSparc | ~karma ie |
| 22:49.37 | infobot | ie has karma of -816 |
| 22:49.53 | SunSparc | ~karma safari |
| 22:49.53 | infobot | safari has karma of 7 |
| 22:50.06 | SunSparc | ~karma opera |
| 22:50.06 | infobot | opera has karma of -5 |
| 22:50.12 | SunSparc | ~karma tor |
| 22:50.12 | infobot | tor has neutral karma |
| 22:50.51 | romanovic | ~tor++ |
| 22:51.21 | romanovic | ~ajitpai-- |
| 22:55.18 | SunSparc | ~ajitpai |
| 22:56.01 | SunSparc | has never used the ajitpai browser... |
| 22:56.37 | jlp_znc | ~karma lynx |
| 22:56.37 | infobot | lynx has karma of 2 |
| 22:56.46 | SunSparc | :) |
| 22:56.51 | jlp_znc | ~karma w3-mode |
| 22:56.51 | infobot | w3-mode has neutral karma |
| 22:57.09 | SunSparc | I actually still use lynx every once in a while |
| 22:57.14 | SunSparc | ~karma curl |
| 22:57.14 | infobot | curl has karma of 2 |
| 22:57.15 | jlp_znc | so do I |
| 22:57.23 | SunSparc | ~curl++ |
| 22:57.29 | SunSparc | I use curl more often though. :D |
| 22:57.34 | jlp_znc | ~karma wget |
| 22:57.34 | infobot | wget has neutral karma |
| 22:57.59 | SunSparc | wget is pretty handy as well. |
| 22:58.04 | SunSparc | ~wget++ |
| 22:58.25 | SunSparc | ~lynx++ |
| 23:02.45 | youtah | http://www.zdnet.com/article/security-flaws-affect-every-intel-chip-since-1995-arm-processors-vulnerable/ |
| 23:04.15 | youtah | "Just hours after proof-of-concept code was tweeted, security researchers have revealed the long-awaited details of two vulnerabilities in Intel processors dating back more than two decades." |
| 23:05.00 | SunSparc | Good find. |
| 23:05.00 | youtah | INTC $45.26 USDPrice decrease $1.59 (-3.39%) |
| 23:05.08 | youtah | heh, oh man |
| 23:05.23 | SunSparc | Good time to buy. ;) |
| 23:06.38 | youtah | heh |
| 23:06.41 | youtah | https://twitter.com/internetofshit/status/948689993689681922 |
| 23:08.48 | SunSparc | :) |
| 23:11.54 | jsmith | youtah: Details are at https://meltdownattack.com and https://spectreattack.com |
| 23:17.21 | youtah | yeah but they dont have the awesome gif |
| 23:18.11 | jlp_znc | apparently the Intel CEO sold $11 million worth of stock last week. |
| 23:18.21 | jlp_znc | oopsie |
| 23:20.09 | SunSparc | Insider trading? |
| 23:20.23 | SunSparc | Or fortuitous sell? ;) |
| 23:20.58 | jlp_znc | I'm sure as he is restricted the sell was set up a long time ago... but who knows how long he's known about it? |
| 23:22.45 | youtah | decades? lol |
| 23:45.18 | frostyfrog | :p |
| 23:45.53 | frostyfrog | [15:23:35] [User: +A-KO] ARM is affected, too. yay cell phones. |
| 23:45.53 | frostyfrog | [15:23:55] [User: +A-KO] OH |
| 23:45.53 | frostyfrog | [15:23:58] [User: +A-KO] the Switch is affected |
| 23:45.53 | frostyfrog | [15:23:59] [User: +A-KO] hahaha |
| 23:46.12 | frostyfrog | Found that related tidbit funny :D |
