| 00:07.57 | SunSparc | ~brave++ |
| 00:09.39 | SunSparc | ~brave |
| 00:09.39 | infobot | i guess brave is a browser with your interests at heart, or https://www.brave.com/ |
| 00:09.52 | SunSparc | ~christmas |
| 00:09.52 | infobot | somebody said christmas was the feast for the birth of Jesus Christ our Savior, or commercialised, or on December 25th. unless you aren't christian, when christmas is an opportunity to screw dumb christians for lots of money, or nono, this is all wrong, christmas is on December 24th |
| 00:10.15 | SunSparc | Merry Christmas! |
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| 04:54.36 | RyanE | nap complete. Ready for Advent of Code Day 14 tonight... :) |
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| 16:53.49 | fozzmoo | http://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/2124313/chinese-woman-offered-refund-after-facial-recognition-allows |
| 16:58.06 | SunSparc | Guess the facial recognition training data needs a few more racial sets. |
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| 18:15.12 | aeryndunham | is so sleepy today |
| 18:20.56 | keldwud | bah, so many choices for setting up a windows AD |
| 18:21.15 | keldwud | all I wanted to do was federate my azure app for testing |
| 18:21.28 | SunSparc | ~lart Windows AD |
| 18:21.28 | infobot | smacks Windows AD up side the head with a clue-by-4 |
| 18:21.34 | keldwud | sorry, federate the AAD SSO for the app |
| 18:21.47 | keldwud | the app is just a default page |
| 18:22.06 | keldwud | I can't believe that I have to spend hundreds of dollars just to test federated AD environments |
| 18:22.13 | keldwud | so dum |
| 18:22.35 | SunSparc | infobot: give keldwud some Linux |
| 18:22.35 | infobot | ACTION gives some Linux to keldwud |
| 18:22.39 | keldwud | I ended up going with AWS directory service |
| 18:22.46 | keldwud | oh I have plenty of Linux |
| 18:22.51 | keldwud | I just have a customer that doesn't |
| 18:23.07 | keldwud | and they want to use my app with SSO |
| 18:23.16 | romanovic | https://www.theverge.com/2017/12/14/16776154/fcc-net-neutrality-vote-results-rules-repealed |
| 18:23.55 | keldwud | boo :( |
| 18:25.13 | keldwud | so I have a web page running in Azure connected to Azure Active Directory with a couple of test users that can successfully "sign in" to the web page using their AAD credentials. except I have to take it a step further and federate my AAD domain and in order to federate I have to use the AAD Connector app |
| 18:25.21 | keldwud | which will only run on a windows server... |
| 18:25.56 | keldwud | running windows servers on Azure seemed a bit expensive considering the minimum requirements for server 2016 is 32GB hard drive space and 3GB RAM |
| 18:28.11 | SunSparc | romanovic: Time to ramp up the Tor nodes. |
| 18:28.44 | romanovic | agreed. |
| 18:32.29 | romanovic | the technical people already know how to vpn/tunnel their traffic such that _all_ traffic is obfuscated from their ISP. I think a new goalpost now is making it simple enough for the masses to force net neutrality down their ISP's collective throats |
| 18:34.05 | romanovic | e.g. easy configuration of home routers to relay all home traffic through a truly neutral relay |
| 18:36.38 | romanovic | it's still inconvenient for mobile devices though... I use a VPN, but it eats enough extra battery that I keep it turned off except when I'm using public APs |
| 18:38.42 | aeryndunham | is it silly to buy a ballet ticket for just myself if i don't know anyone who will go with me? |
| 18:39.18 | programmerq | aeryndunham⸠no. go enjoy the show. |
| 18:50.05 | SunSparc | romanovic: yeah, there is still a high barrier to entry |
| 18:50.34 | SunSparc | aeryndunham: I agree with programmerq, go enjoy. You might even meet some cool people there to hang out with. |
| 18:50.48 | aeryndunham | Yeah, maybe |
| 18:51.03 | aeryndunham | my boyfriend has no interest, and ballet is long and expensive to take someone who doesn't wan to go |
| 18:53.43 | SunSparc | Maybe you could find a new boyfriend there. ;) |
| 18:53.56 | aeryndunham | heh |
| 18:54.04 | aeryndunham | for all his flaws, I kind of like the one I've got :p |
| 18:55.30 | SunSparc | I get it. My wife does not like attending the symphony with me. Then again, I do not much like going to the grocery store with her. :D |
| 18:57.21 | SunSparc | Well, actually, the grocery store is not bad, but clothes shopping is torture. |
| 18:57.33 | aeryndunham | hah |
| 18:59.38 | romanovic | My wife was a ballet dancer so I am expected to attend and enjoy it when she wants to go. |
| 19:00.49 | SunSparc | romanovic: That is a good hubby. |
| 19:01.07 | romanovic | My least favorite part of ballet is not the dancing or the music. It's the conversation my wife has at the end with her family and friends (when they attend) where they critique dancers' technique in every piece in the ballet |
| 19:02.23 | SunSparc | haha, that is when the phone comes out to save you |
| 19:02.33 | romanovic | yes. |
| 19:05.08 | romanovic | I imagine it is somewhat like when movies portray computer hackers, but are especially lazy about it, and you have to call them on it but nobody else cares |
| 19:05.45 | romanovic | "67.395.224.621 is NOT an IP address" |
| 19:06.29 | romanovic | "You can't enhance a 3px-wide license plate from that image to read the number" |
| 19:07.40 | SunSparc | romanovic: Good point. My wife has become skeptical of all outrageous tech features in movies and tv shows since she known me. |
| 19:07.56 | SunSparc | On the topic of encrypting all the things: https://pack.resetthenet.org/ |
| 19:08.47 | aeryndunham | ... this data must be wrong |
| 19:08.52 | aeryndunham | it doesn't make any sense |
| 19:10.24 | aeryndunham | I'm looking at data for, over a 3-day period, how many guests accessed their cabins with medallions vs the keys we give as fallback |
| 19:10.39 | aeryndunham | and, like, there's no way anyone's cabin door is opening 1,020 times in 3 days |
| 19:11.54 | romanovic | maybe they had a bad case of the trots? |
| 19:12.03 | aeryndunham | maybe |
| 19:12.05 | aeryndunham | but dang |
| 19:13.43 | SunSparc | That would be 14 door openings per hour. |
| 19:13.47 | SunSparc | 24/7 |
| 19:14.00 | aeryndunham | yeah |
| 19:14.05 | aeryndunham | it's not possible |
| 19:14.35 | SunSparc | Maybe they had an conversation in the hall next to the door and the key was close enough to keep triggering the unlock? |
| 19:14.46 | aeryndunham | yeah that is possible |
| 19:15.04 | aeryndunham | If you stood outside your door having a 10 min convo the lock would be going nuts granting you access |
| 19:15.05 | SunSparc | I am not sure how the mechanism works, but perhaps it got stuck? |
| 19:15.09 | aeryndunham | also possible |
| 19:15.53 | SunSparc | Either way, I would say it is worth sending a technician to check it out. |
| 19:16.31 | aeryndunham | oh, they've looked |
| 19:16.42 | aeryndunham | there is more hyperfocus on these doors than anything else in the project |
| 19:17.10 | aeryndunham | and there are definitely issues with them but literally eveything is being blamed on "doors are broken" |
| 19:18.32 | aeryndunham | like this past Sunday we had 60 guests whose medallions weren't being recognized at their doors. Instant wailing about broken doors, broken sensors. Turns out their bookings were mismanaged, they weren't flagged as "Medallion Class" qguests, and consequently their medallions weren't 'checked in' to the doors. |
| 19:18.46 | aeryndunham | But it was still somehow the door's fault |
| 19:19.49 | SunSparc | Ah, that sounds like fun. |
| 19:20.20 | aeryndunham | yep |
| 19:20.57 | aeryndunham | there's also this capacative touch feature to the door which doesn't work that well and is being insisted upon as a 'safety feature' which makes NO SENSE |
| 19:22.11 | aeryndunham | So the panel detects your medallion and says 'access granted'. the door doesn't ~actually~ unlock until you touch it, because it would be a "safety hazard" to just "have the door open" |
| 19:22.24 | aeryndunham | well, it says 'access granted' either way, and it's not like it's checking for fingerprints here |
| 19:22.37 | aeryndunham | the theoreical thief lurking around the corner could get in either way |
| 19:30.05 | SunSparc | The joys of integrating new technologies into our analog life. |
| 19:30.20 | aeryndunham | yup |
| 19:30.45 | aeryndunham | When the doors work well they are really cool |
| 19:30.58 | SunSparc | I bet. |
| 19:31.45 | SunSparc | They would be even more cool if they slid open like on the Star Trek ship Enterprise. :D |
| 19:35.57 | aeryndunham | LMAO there have ACTUALLY been passenger complaints because they thought the doors were going to OPEN for them |
| 19:36.59 | SunSparc | haha, they would be pretty sweet. |
| 19:37.23 | jima | i'm guessing anyone who's worked someplace that has regular badge access has an easier time with the learning curve. |
| 19:37.42 | jima | if your context is star trek, yes, you're going to have a harder time. |
| 19:38.36 | frostyfrog | stretches |
| 19:42.28 | aeryndunham | throws things. Why is OpenAM down ALL THE TIME |
| 19:44.22 | spangborn | RIP internet |
| 19:44.38 | jima | aeryndunham: because net neutrality is dead |
| 19:44.57 | jima | crosses out the bofh excuse of the day and will use that for the next while |
| 19:45.04 | aeryndunham | haha |
| 19:45.36 | spangborn | I just use "BFY" |
| 19:49.23 | romanovic | I've decided I need to grok Gradle. any java devs out there have a book or resource recommendation? |
| 19:49.47 | romanovic | stipulates that he refuses to use Gradle in any fashion that requires the use of XML, on principle |
| 19:56.19 | frostyfrog | just got a coworker to use TheLounge. Thanks for the recommendation, spangborn :) |
| 20:02.30 | spangborn | frostyfrog: Sweet. Version 3.0 thatâs coming should be a huge jump, too |
| 20:02.54 | frostyfrog | Once it comes out, I'll have to let him know :D |
| 21:03.02 | aeryndunham | WOW this dude just screamed at me in an email |
| 21:03.05 | aeryndunham | I love that |
| 21:04.24 | frostyfrog | Screamed in an email? |
| 21:04.41 | aeryndunham | lots of app caps |
| 21:04.44 | aeryndunham | all caps |
| 21:04.50 | aeryndunham | and ????????????s |
| 21:05.14 | frostyfrog | DID HE THINK IT WAS CAPSLOCK FRIDAY? |
| 21:05.18 | frostyfrog | wait, that's tomorrow... |
| 21:05.46 | frostyfrog | aeryndunham: That does not sound like a professional email in the slightest. |
| 21:06.02 | aeryndunham | he's not a very professional dude |
| 21:06.03 | aeryndunham | so |
| 21:06.22 | frostyfrog | Ah, makes sense |
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| 21:13.09 | aeryndunham | is TRYING to help simplify the currently very messy interim defect reporting system from people on the ship to here |
| 21:13.23 | aeryndunham | Typically right now they just... send us an email |
| 21:13.32 | aeryndunham | and it's missing all kinds of info, description will be like "uh, it's broken" |
| 21:13.57 | aeryndunham | So I thought we could ~try~ a Google Form, so that I can make fields required and it'd then make it much easier for us to put the info into JIRA |
| 21:14.06 | aeryndunham | And he's literally: |
| 21:14.22 | aeryndunham | "WHY THE HELL would we need ANOTHER reporting system???????? Who knows about this??????? |
| 21:14.56 | aeryndunham | And the email I sent the pepople onboard wasn't even "use this now", it was "hey, we're thinking of trying this, what do you guys think?" |
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| 21:29.42 | frostyfrog | Sheesh |
| 21:30.06 | frostyfrog | BTW, google form? 10x better than emails... except for attatchments... |
| 21:30.30 | frostyfrog | Though it does sound a little bit like he's over-reacting. |
| 21:31.13 | frostyfrog | "Well, it's better than emails saying that the product is broken, without any additional info", yup. I totally agree with this thought process. |
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| 22:01.44 | shalkie | aeryndunham: I like self service options. Maybe suggest they get Jira Service Desk and then people can file tickets directly. |
| 22:02.12 | shalkie | Though the suggestion of Google forms was a good one. |
| 22:05.16 | shalkie | Also I think the right response is "The only ones that know about this are you, me and the illuminati. Soon it will only be two of those three..." |
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