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| 17:13.08 | romanovic | is upset that he is too busy at work to work on Advent of Code challenges |
| 17:13.43 | RyanE | that is a shame. |
| 17:13.46 | RyanE | they're fun. |
| 17:14.12 | romanovic | I look forward to the last week before Christmas, when people start their holiday vacations early and my backlog is much smaller |
| 17:14.14 | spangborn | I've been too busy playing Zelda |
| 17:14.21 | spangborn | I have no regrets |
| 17:14.24 | SunSparc | romanovic: take your laptop into the bathroom with you and just code on the can :) |
| 17:15.09 | RyanE | they say laptop keyboards are about as bacterially clean as a toilet seat anyway... |
| 17:15.18 | SunSparc | lol |
| 17:15.22 | spangborn | Eat your lunch off of it while you're at it |
| 17:15.34 | spangborn | It'll strengthen your gut flora |
| 17:15.38 | SunSparc | ~eww |
| 17:15.38 | infobot | [eww] don't be so norty |
| 17:15.41 | RyanE | heh |
| 17:15.45 | RyanE | no thanks |
| 17:15.54 | romanovic | spangborn: Zelda on the switch? It sounds like a fun game. I'll play it when it comes to PC |
| 17:16.40 | RyanE | Last night's AoC, part 2 only took me 2 minutes after finishing part 1... |
| 17:16.41 | romanovic | hasn't played a Zelda since the original nintendo game, except for the N64 game very briefly |
| 17:17.34 | romanovic | that's good news |
| 17:18.00 | spangborn | The N64 was the best one |
| 17:18.12 | spangborn | Although the Switch one comes close |
| 17:18.12 | TodPunk | Incorrect. The Zelda on the SNES was the best one. |
| 17:18.24 | spangborn | Ocarina of Time best Zelda |
| 17:18.37 | spangborn | The Gameboy Zelda was pretty decent too |
| 17:19.27 | TodPunk | OoT is easily the most popular, but it was also the point where they dumbed it down and made it more linear, including feeding you the keyword hints highlighted in red so you didn't have to *GASP* /read/ 6 sentences and /comprehend/ them |
| 17:20.21 | TodPunk | Link's Awakening on the original gameboy is also fantastic, if in a different vein. It's a close second to ALttP, and for some it is the best and I don't fault their position given the time's context |
| 17:21.13 | SunSparc | Zelda on switch? https://imgur.com/a/0LxSB |
| 17:22.00 | SunSparc | RyanE: only 2 minutes? Nice work! |
| 17:22.28 | RyanE | just fortuitous implementation. |
| 17:22.50 | RyanE | I was tracking 'already seen' with a hash (Lua table), with the value being 'true'. I just had to change the value to be the index, and subtract at end. |
| 17:23.21 | RyanE | I was glad, because I was fighting a cold, and had already taken some Nyquil and had a nap before the AoC. |
| 17:23.26 | RyanE | :) |
| 17:24.19 | spangborn | hah SunSparc |
| 17:24.29 | spangborn | My Nintendo Switch is a shitty Switch |
| 17:24.36 | spangborn | Doesn't even support ethernet |
| 17:24.58 | spangborn | (Unless you plug in a USB ethernet adapter) |
| 17:25.08 | spangborn | It's also my first foray into USB-C hardware |
| 17:25.19 | frostyfrog | 2nd for me |
| 17:25.45 | spangborn | Although my GoPro uses USB-C, but for nothing other than charging |
| 17:25.47 | programmerq | I have a 2-in-1 tablet that has a usbc port (but uses a usb mini for charging) |
| 17:25.54 | programmerq | and my pixel has usbc |
| 17:26.06 | spangborn | The Switch dock is actually a pretty cool piece of hardware |
| 17:26.15 | spangborn | It's a USB-C hub + HDMI |
| 17:26.29 | frostyfrog | ^ |
| 17:26.43 | programmerq | I wonder if my 2-in-1 would be able to output video over it |
| 17:27.04 | frostyfrog | My order goes: My GoPro, Nintendo Switch, New phone. |
| 17:27.11 | spangborn | Probably, I think it's just a standard USB-C video device |
| 17:27.27 | spangborn | You can also use a USB-C -> HDMI adapter with the switch if it also provides power |
| 17:27.39 | frostyfrog | Now the question is, will programmerq's 2-in-1 fit inside the nintendo switch dock. |
| 17:27.58 | programmerq | it's pretty small. |
| 17:28.00 | spangborn | Anything can fit with enough force |
| 17:28.13 | RyanE | ~twss |
| 17:28.13 | infobot | That's what she said! |
| 17:29.26 | aeryndunham | lol |
| 17:29.50 | spangborn | frostyfrog: Do you have a case for your Switch? |
| 17:30.18 | frostyfrog | I'd like to see you fit a USB-C male into a female parallel port. |
| 17:30.36 | spangborn | It'll fit, it probably just won't work |
| 17:30.54 | frostyfrog | spangborn: If by case, you mean the stand/case combo that gamestop sells and that I never use? yes. |
| 17:31.16 | spangborn | I added the AmazonBasics carrying case to my wishlist |
| 17:31.27 | spangborn | family is nagging me that I didn't put anything on Christmas list |
| 17:31.32 | spangborn | so it's filled with Switch accessories |
| 17:32.00 | frostyfrog | That's a better problem than the one I have. |
| 17:32.20 | spangborn | Oh I should order that new Google Mesh wifi stuff |
| 17:32.22 | frostyfrog | A lot of the items on my list are way over budget >_> |
| 17:32.45 | frostyfrog | opts for ubiquiti's gear instead of Google's mesh |
| 17:33.06 | spangborn | Google's is cheaper, I think? |
| 17:33.28 | spangborn | $284 for three nodes |
| 17:33.33 | frostyfrog | It may be, but I want to be certain that my gear will run for the next 10-20 years. |
| 17:34.52 | spangborn | There'll be a new/better wifi standard by then, easily |
| 17:35.08 | frostyfrog | Probably. |
| 17:36.25 | frostyfrog | I also doubt that Google's solution supports usernames and passwords, but I digress. The ubiquiti stuff is $150 per unit and is more business/enterprise. (also supports POE :3) |
| 17:41.26 | frostyfrog | I'm interested to hear how the Google WiFi stuff works, if you get it. |
| 17:44.09 | aeryndunham | Hmm. I was asked to discuss the spreadsheet I've been putting together with someone, but I've emailed him 3 times - no response - and stopped where he sits twice, he's always on a call - so I hope I don't get into shit for not having talked to him yet. |
| 17:44.43 | programmerq | find open time on his calendar and send an invite. |
| 17:44.44 | frostyfrog | Leave a note at his desk? |
| 17:44.57 | frostyfrog | That might work too. |
| 17:45.15 | aeryndunham | I'll just keep passing by |
| 17:45.25 | aeryndunham | I don't have access to his calendar |
| 17:45.52 | aeryndunham | I honestly don't think he'll have anything to add, but alas |
| 17:46.32 | frostyfrog | figured that leaving a note that said "When you have some time, I've been asked to go over something with you" might work, but what do I know? |
| 17:47.21 | aeryndunham | yeah I should |
| 17:47.28 | aeryndunham | I just panic when I have to talk to peopel |
| 17:48.05 | frostyfrog | At least a note isn't talking to him :p But on a serious note, I understand. |
| 17:49.39 | aeryndunham | I get nervous when I have to send an email |
| 17:49.44 | aeryndunham | actually SPEAKING to someone? |
| 17:49.46 | aeryndunham | forget it |
| 17:52.45 | frostyfrog | That's why I like radio to some extent. I can call out and call out and not get a response. The tricky part is when someone does respond, because I'm like, "Oh crap!" (a little bit, I'm used to it now though) |
| 17:53.20 | aeryndunham | Hah |
| 17:54.00 | frostyfrog | There is sooo much RF loss in my antenna system, it's not even funny. :( |
| 17:54.43 | frostyfrog | Even a local ham not too far from me says that I have a weak-ish signal. |
| 17:55.20 | aeryndunham | aww |
| 17:59.19 | RyanE | Anything like that requires specialized breathing/filtering apparatus and a large oven is hard to DIY... |
| 18:05.45 | spangborn | leaves a pile of glitter on youtah's desk |
| 18:07.17 | SunSparc | ~glitter youtah |
| 18:13.54 | youtah | ~nachos |
| 18:13.54 | infobot | schweet. |
| 18:13.56 | youtah | lol |
| 18:13.58 | youtah | ha |
| 18:13.59 | youtah | heh |
| 18:14.02 | youtah | :-) |
| 18:14.07 | youtah | ~:-)stats |
| 18:14.12 | youtah | ~:)stats |
| 18:14.14 | infobot | total count of :) on #utah: 1944. Top 3: goozbach -- 286 (14.7%), eightyeight -- 201 (10.3%), SunSparc -- 178 (9.2%) |
| 18:14.20 | youtah | :) |
| 18:14.24 | youtah | ~lolstats |
| 18:14.24 | infobot | total count of lol on #utah: 2672. Top 3: youtah -- 1251 (46.8%), keldwud -- 138 (5.2%), SunSparc -- 88 (3.3%) |
| 18:14.57 | SunSparc | ~youtahstats |
| 18:15.03 | eightyeight | heh |
| 18:15.06 | youtah | lol |
| 18:15.14 | eightyeight | heh |
| 18:15.20 | eightyeight | :) |
| 18:15.33 | eightyeight | ~hehstats |
| 18:15.33 | infobot | total count of heh on #utah: 1810. Top 3: eightyeight -- 566 (31.3%), fozzmoo -- 153 (8.5%), RyanE -- 149 (8.2%) |
| 18:16.03 | SunSparc | ~seen youtah |
| 18:16.04 | infobot | youtah is currently on #utah. Has said a total of 10 messages. Is idling for 58s, last said: 'lol'. |
| 18:17.40 | spangborn | ~seen youtah |
| 18:17.40 | infobot | youtah is currently on #utah. Has said a total of 10 messages. Is idling for 2m 34s, last said: 'lol'. |
| 18:30.17 | youtah | /m spangborn no I will not make out with you |
| 18:30.29 | spangborn | ~trump youtah |
| 18:30.30 | infobot | ACTION deports youtah |
| 18:30.33 | spangborn | That works |
| 18:30.34 | youtah | LOL |
| 18:30.36 | youtah | ouch |
| 18:30.55 | youtah | at least he didn't "move on my like a B#$@%" |
| 18:36.26 | SunSparc | eval("B#$@%") |
| 18:36.30 | SunSparc | parse error |
| 18:37.44 | frostyfrog | https://github.com/wanqizhu/pyfuck/blob/master/README.md |
| 18:39.43 | frostyfrog | heh |
| 18:42.49 | frostyfrog | ~stats |
| 18:42.49 | infobot | Since Wed Dec 6 06:11:54 2017, there have been 0 modifications, 13 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 4 commands. I have been awake for 12h 30m 55s this session, and currently reference 119714 factoids. I'm using about 83024 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 57.68/6.23 child 0/0 |
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| 18:52.11 | aeryndunham | just had a meeting in a small conference room with 4 people who have clearly not discovered deodorant |
| 18:58.12 | SunSparc | aeryndunham: were they younger people or older? |
| 18:58.36 | aeryndunham | Older |
| 19:00.48 | SunSparc | Maybe they just don't care anymore. |
| 19:01.21 | aeryndunham | Possible |
| 19:01.34 | aeryndunham | Also I just got voluntold to write some business requirements |
| 19:01.51 | aeryndunham | So I'm basically doing someone else's job for them |
| 19:01.57 | TodPunk | Could be the expectation that everyone smell like Old Spice variety packs is too strong, too. Not saying that's the case here, but the ambiguity in these things usually means the smeller has some burden in the discomfort, and that's not a popular opinion these days. |
| 19:02.29 | aeryndunham | I mean it reeked in there |
| 19:02.43 | aeryndunham | I don't expect people to smell like Old Spice |
| 19:03.13 | TodPunk | I specifically wasn't claiming you were, just noting the ambiguity. I appreciate the clarity, but it was mostly food for thought. Truly. |
| 19:09.01 | programmerq | relevant food for thought: https://i.makeagif.com/media/9-29-2015/ubIHhD.gif |
| 19:28.23 | unum | eightyeight: is there such thing as a collisionless hash, or is it theoretically impossible(since uniqueness implies reversibilty) |
| 19:30.39 | eightyeight | in order for a hashing function to be theoretically collision-less, it would need to have an infinite digest size |
| 19:31.08 | eightyeight | as soon as you cap that, at n-bits, then you're in the pigeon hole problem, and n+1 hashes will guarantee a collision |
| 19:31.35 | eightyeight | er, n-bits + 1 hashes, i meant to say |
| 19:31.39 | eightyeight | you get the idea |
| 19:33.14 | unum | I can make my digest size larger than my possible input size |
| 19:34.07 | unum | say my input size was 10 bytes and always 10 bytes |
| 19:34.21 | eightyeight | ok |
| 19:34.42 | eightyeight | so, 80-bits, or 2^80 unique inputs |
| 19:35.10 | eightyeight | if you digest function range is < 80-bits, you're guaranteed a collision |
| 19:36.14 | unum | but if I make my digest range 160 bits I'm not guaranteed a collision |
| 19:36.33 | unum | but is there an algorythm that would guarantee there's not one |
| 19:36.46 | eightyeight | correct |
| 19:37.02 | eightyeight | you may or may not get one. it would depend on the algorithm |
| 19:39.02 | eightyeight | you could guarantee it's collision-free by just reversing the bits. IE: b0,b1,b2,...,bn-1,bn -> bn,bn-1,bn-2,...,b1,b0 |
| 19:39.21 | eightyeight | provided your input is always unique, you would always have unique digests |
| 19:39.47 | eightyeight | but it's not cryptographically secure. just 1:1 within your 80-bit domain |
| 19:41.51 | unum | the road we're chasing is a complete fallacy |
| 19:41.54 | unum | I just realized that |
| 19:42.07 | unum | thanks for your help |
| 19:42.09 | eightyeight | what's your goal? what are you trying to accomplish? |
| 20:07.16 | aeryndunham | ugh I wanna go home |
| 20:07.26 | aeryndunham | anxiety through the roof today |
| 20:09.00 | spangborn | I just have an intense desire to light everything on fire right now |
| 20:09.13 | spangborn | I just had three fires thrown on my plate |
| 20:09.22 | spangborn | and if they were real fires, I'd just tip them over and leave |
| 20:13.21 | aeryndunham | :( |
| 20:20.08 | programmerq | spangborn going all khaleesi |
| 20:27.10 | frostyfrog | aeryndunham: What time are you "officially" off work again? 5 PM your time? 6 PM? 7? |
| 20:27.23 | aeryndunham | 5, I guess |
| 20:27.29 | aeryndunham | I don't really have set hours |
| 20:28.05 | frostyfrog | Aah, I see. |
| 20:28.28 | aeryndunham | When it's busy I am often here until 6:30 or 7:00, which I hate. I try to leave around 5:00. |
| 20:28.46 | frostyfrog | Hmm... |
| 20:29.06 | frostyfrog | That's only 3:30 or 4:00 in Oregon ;p |
| 20:29.46 | frostyfrog | knows that it's a bad comparison. Sorry |
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| 22:42.09 | SunSparc | Finally did day 3 part 1 on AoC. :) |
| 22:42.18 | SunSparc | I need to catch up. |
| 22:42.30 | spangborn | I'm about to do 40 minutes of Zelda on the train |
| 22:45.47 | SunSparc | Gotta catch up on that Zelda. :D |
| 23:01.41 | frostyfrog | I need to catch up on AoC... But first I've gotta start day one >_> |
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| 23:35.18 | SunSparc | frostyfrog: Day one is pretty easy. It whets your whistle for more puzzles. |
| 23:57.45 | aeryndunham | i will never finish putting tinsel on this tree argh |
