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| 17:05.06 | aeryndunham | sighs. I was sent a spreadsheet and asked 'you can pivot table, right?' and 3 hours later I still can't get them to tell me exactly what info they want out of this |
| 17:05.22 | aeryndunham | I think they think I just press 'pivot' and it guesses, or soemthing :p |
| 17:18.56 | programmerq | lol, like in the office episode where charles miner asks jim for a "rundown" |
| 17:20.10 | aeryndunham | hah |
| 17:20.48 | aeryndunham | Pivot tables are not some deep dark magic :P I just need to know what you want to know! |
| 17:28.01 | RyanE | I heard about this cool thing from a management magazine. Can you pivot this for me? :) |
| 17:28.14 | aeryndunham | it's someone who should really know better too |
| 17:28.21 | RyanE | Pivot!!! |
| 17:28.36 | aeryndunham | It's a huuuuuge spreadsheet, I can't even begin to guess exactly what they want |
| 17:29.56 | aeryndunham | It's actually also a log, lots of duplicate fields, so... might be tough, when I finally find out what they want |
| 17:33.45 | aeryndunham | I've actually spent much of my workday looking at job listings.... |
| 17:33.51 | aeryndunham | which I should probably not do? |
| 17:37.47 | RyanE | heh |
| 17:38.53 | aeryndunham | I do wish "work-from-home entry level job in something to do with web development or linux with pay comparable to what I make in this miserable office' was a thing :p |
| 17:42.20 | Migs | hey, if anyone here is a half-decent frontend developer and applies for this job: https://www.indeed.com/job/front-end-developer-27a1f8ee55b660de you'll probably get it. We've had almost NO ONE apply. |
| 17:42.31 | Migs | Slim pickins |
| 17:43.07 | Migs | so far, just 6 applicants...and half of them are still in school |
| 17:44.16 | aeryndunham | Well, I don't know C# or asp.net (everything else on th list... sort of) and I also don't live anywhere near Utah so... |
| 17:44.43 | aeryndunham | Sounds like a neat job, though |
| 17:44.43 | spangborn | Would I have to relocate? ;p |
| 17:46.49 | Migs | If you're not within commuting distance of Ogden, probably |
| 17:46.58 | Migs | not a remote job |
| 17:53.42 | aeryndunham | ahhh hahah the sheet he sent me was missing the actual pertinent column |
| 17:53.50 | aeryndunham | haha |
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| 18:53.22 | SunSparc | Well I have a few Advent of Code stars so far. :) |
| 18:53.31 | aeryndunham | has zero |
| 18:53.41 | romanovic | needs to catch up |
| 18:54.06 | SunSparc | There is still time! |
| 18:54.10 | romanovic | I've only done day 1! can't find enough of a break at work to get more in |
| 18:54.54 | programmerq | I'm still going through my first factorio playthrough. |
| 18:55.10 | SunSparc | romanovic: Call in sick. ;) |
| 18:55.14 | programmerq | It's meen *months* since I've been able to play games really, and now I seem to be able to play as much as I want after work |
| 18:55.15 | aeryndunham | They puzzles hurt my brain |
| 18:55.20 | SunSparc | programmerq: I have done that. It was fun. |
| 18:55.30 | programmerq | I just got nuclear power. |
| 18:55.44 | SunSparc | programmerq: I have only played the demo. |
| 18:55.55 | aeryndunham | is really down today, too... makes it hard for motivations |
| 18:56.11 | SunSparc | aeryndunham: That hurt is your brain streching its muscles. It is a good hurt. :D |
| 18:56.31 | programmerq | yeah, it's always nice to have hurt brain. that's why I'm enjoying factorio. |
| 18:56.42 | aeryndunham | not when you never get anywhere :p |
| 18:57.05 | aeryndunham | I actually had time to fire up my web dev course this weekend, though... wrote some silly JS functions |
| 18:57.07 | programmerq | sometimes when that happens you just need to get a good night sleep and then revisit the problem. |
| 18:57.26 | aeryndunham | But I even struggled on one of those and it was the dang 'intro to functions' lesson |
| 18:57.36 | aeryndunham | (factorials. hurts the brain.) |
| 20:21.32 | SunSparc | aeryndunham: What is your language of choice? |
| 20:22.12 | aeryndunham | i was wanting to try JS just because I'm doing a web development course |
| 20:22.49 | aeryndunham | used to think that JS was the devil's own programming language, but it has grown on me :p |
| 20:28.34 | aeryndunham | SunSparc: You? Python? |
| 20:29.41 | SunSparc | aeryndunham: I am using Go. Sometimes python. |
| 20:29.48 | aeryndunham | Ahh Go looks interesting |
| 20:31.07 | aeryndunham | Although most languages look interesting to me |
| 20:31.51 | SunSparc | That is the right way to look at programming languages. :) |
| 20:32.07 | aeryndunham | I wish they were a bit EASIER, but.... :p |
| 20:33.38 | SunSparc | That comes with time. There is no shame in seeing how other people do it. Even if you just copy their code, do not copy and paste, trascribe it by hand so that at least you get the experience of typing through the solution. |
| 20:33.42 | SunSparc | https://www.reddit.com/r/adventofcode/search?q=day+1+javascript |
| 20:34.00 | SunSparc | We learn by doing and failure is an integral and important part of success. |
| 20:35.25 | aeryndunham | Yeah, that's been mostly my plan |
| 20:38.09 | SunSparc | :) |
| 20:39.18 | RyanE | I'm using Lua for the AoC. |
| 20:39.34 | RyanE | b/c that's what I use at work. Chickened out going with something I didn't know as well... :) |
| 20:39.43 | SunSparc | RyanE: how do you like Lua? |
| 20:39.59 | RyanE | well, as I'm the one who picked it for our driver development language 7ish years ago, I love it. |
| 20:40.13 | spangborn | Lua |
| 20:40.14 | spangborn | BLEGH |
| 20:40.17 | RyanE | it's not ideal as a scripting language, though, mainly because it's not batteries included. |
| 20:40.23 | RyanE | spangborn: not an unusual reaction. |
| 20:40.24 | spangborn | has PTSD flashbacks of writing Lightroom Plugins |
| 20:40.38 | RyanE | I liked it when we chose it, I like it better now. |
| 20:40.39 | spangborn | The worst part was that Adobe didn't include the full Lua stdlib |
| 20:40.45 | spangborn | and had zero debugging utilities |
| 20:43.04 | aeryndunham | I used Lua once when I set up a chat server |
| 20:43.45 | spangborn | Just imagine writing an Oauth2 client in Lua with no debugging |
| 20:43.51 | RyanE | done it. |
| 20:43.56 | RyanE | other than print statements... |
| 20:44.04 | spangborn | No print statements either |
| 20:44.07 | spangborn | lol |
| 20:44.08 | RyanE | ugh. |
| 20:44.11 | RyanE | yeah, not tenable. |
| 20:44.23 | spangborn | This was LR3, so maybe it's improved now |
| 20:44.25 | RyanE | that's when you write a print statement that does UDP packets going to a terminal input... |
| 20:44.38 | spangborn | lol I ended up just writing to a file |
| 20:44.39 | spangborn | and tailing it |
| 20:44.42 | SunSparc | We have talked about using lua at work, but decided against it, so I have never actually tried it. |
| 20:44.45 | RyanE | that'd be easier. |
| 20:44.46 | RyanE | :) |
| 20:44.53 | spangborn | I also gave up on this project |
| 20:44.56 | spangborn | Because someone else beat me to the punch |
| 20:45.20 | RyanE | Lua fit our requirements to a t: Extremely easy to integrate into C/C++, easy to add libraries and API calls into existing C code, pretty performant, and easy to use. |
| 20:45.34 | RyanE | but it's not for everyone, I agree. |
| 20:45.35 | spangborn | Yeah, if the tools are available it's fine |
| 20:45.40 | spangborn | It's not an awful language |
| 20:45.52 | spangborn | I was just working in a bizarrely sandboxed and limited env |
| 20:45.54 | RyanE | most C types hate the 1-based arrays and 'end' statements. |
| 20:47.22 | youtah | hates racking dell servers |
| 20:47.31 | youtah | thinks the Super Micros are so much easier to rack |
| 20:47.38 | youtah | also like HPs |
| 20:47.58 | youtah | These rail systems are retarded |
| 20:48.07 | youtah | goes back to work |
| 20:48.31 | SunSparc | ~work youtah |
| 20:48.31 | infobot | ACTION looks over the shoulder of youtah to see what needs to be done and then sets the elves to work getting it all done so youtah can play bzflag |
| 20:49.23 | spangborn | ~trump youtah |
| 20:49.23 | infobot | ACTION fires youtah |
| 20:49.36 | spangborn | That was an unexpected plot twist |
| 20:49.52 | aeryndunham | is a meeting with 14 other people and I'm the only girl here, always feels weird |
| 21:05.40 | aeryndunham | oh my god; I have been here since JULY and just today have I figured out that there's a daily meeting upate mailing list that I never got added to and that's why I never know anything |
| 21:05.44 | aeryndunham | JULY |
| 21:12.42 | aeryndunham | SunSparc: I'm going line by line through someone's JS answer now |
| 21:13.41 | programmerq | so I have some netgear JGS524E switches. I'm trying to access the web interface, but it just returns a 404. |
| 21:13.50 | programmerq | I swear I've accessed it before on one of these (I have a total of four) |
| 21:17.32 | SunSparc | aeryndunham: Wow, that would have been helpful to be on that list. |
| 21:18.10 | SunSparc | aeryndunham: That is a good way to learn. |
| 21:18.27 | SunSparc | programmerq: Are you hitting the IP or a named address? |
| 21:18.47 | aeryndunham | SunSparc: It's tough, though |
| 21:20.05 | SunSparc | aeryndunham: It will be worth it. |
| 21:20.22 | aeryndunham | Well, the only line I'm struggling with is the line where it's actually calculating the answer, lol |
| 21:20.39 | SunSparc | :) |
| 21:20.45 | SunSparc | Paste it here and we can help you. |
| 21:21.23 | aeryndunham | Although I think his answer is wrong, I pasted it into the console and it returns 0 when should....not be |
| 21:21.48 | SunSparc | Everyone has different input, do not use his input. Use your own. |
| 21:22.00 | aeryndunham | Oh, I know, it's just a tiny sample input right now |
| 21:22.25 | programmerq | IP. it returns 404 headers immediately, but no body and then times out (both from chrome and curl) |
| 21:22.35 | SunSparc | That is a good way to do it, so you are not flooded by all the real input. |
| 21:22.38 | programmerq | netgear has some adobe air utility that seems to be able to access it though. |
| 21:23.48 | aeryndunham | My input right now is just 112233, which should be 6, I think |
| 21:24.09 | SunSparc | Yep |
| 21:24.30 | SunSparc | programmerq: do a traceroute? Maybe you are getting intercepted? |
| 21:24.43 | aeryndunham | Off I'm reading the insrructions again and if 91212129 is 9 then I DON'T understand, I thought they had to be next to each other |
| 21:25.15 | programmerq | SunSparc⸠nope, I'm plugged directly into the switch and no other devices are. |
| 21:25.16 | aeryndunham | oh, circular... |
| 21:25.25 | SunSparc | aeryndunham: Yep, circular |
| 21:27.55 | aeryndunham | A lot of the solutions labeled JS don't look like JavaScript at all to me |
| 21:30.53 | spangborn | Probably ES |
| 21:31.23 | SunSparc | ECMAScript :) |
| 21:32.08 | spangborn | Standardized Javascript! |
| 21:33.14 | aeryndunham | found one she almost understands |
| 21:38.52 | aeryndunham | heyyy I made changes to a couple things to be more what I understand and it still works |
| 21:40.20 | aeryndunham | oof now for part 2 :p |
| 21:40.33 | programmerq | SunSparc⸠I did a little more digging, and this has a firmware version that simply doesn't have the web interface. Apparantely, I must have installed the adobe air utility in the past. |
| 21:41.01 | programmerq | it does feel familiar. They all seem to have the firmware version that is the oldest possible for this device type, and two updates in the release notes say "added web gui" |
| 21:41.43 | aeryndunham | https://pastebin.com/jg5TazYn |
| 21:42.00 | aeryndunham | (I totally cheated but I actually think I understand all of that) |
| 21:42.31 | aeryndunham | well, the % input.length confuses, but I know what it does at least |
| 21:45.47 | programmerq | which part about the % input.length is confusing? |
| 21:46.51 | aeryndunham | The why, I guess |
| 21:46.55 | aeryndunham | I know WHAT it's doing |
| 21:51.32 | aeryndunham | lol, the guy doing the answers in excel must have loved day 2 :P |
| 21:52.33 | spangborn | installs a 6GB IDE for the 4th time in a month |
| 21:52.42 | programmerq | looks like I'll probably need to go through the problem to figure out the why. |
| 21:53.05 | RyanE | % is the modulo operator in JS, so that way if they do a lookup off the end, it 'wraps around'. |
| 21:55.23 | aeryndunham | Oh, for the wrap around |
| 21:55.28 | RyanE | yep |
| 21:55.33 | aeryndunham | I know what modulo is, I jsut... wasn't grasping why it was being used here |
| 21:56.03 | aeryndunham | so for day 2 I imagine I'm cheating if I make every row its own list |
| 21:56.13 | aeryndunham | Or, not cheating, but... it must be easier than that :p |
| 21:56.44 | RyanE | you could just put them into an array, one row at a time. |
| 21:56.54 | RyanE | I don't think that'd be cheating, then just loop through the rows. |
| 21:57.27 | SunSparc | aeryndunham: There is no cheating. It is all learning and having fun. :D |
| 21:57.40 | RyanE | that's true. Any way you can get the answer is 'not cheating'. |
| 21:57.43 | aeryndunham | it's only fun when it works :p |
| 21:57.53 | RyanE | some people manually calculated out the answer for Day 3, part 1 from what I've read... :) |
| 21:57.55 | SunSparc | haha |
| 21:58.08 | SunSparc | Yep, my friend did day 3 on paper. |
| 21:58.12 | RyanE | Day 3 threw me for a loop. |
| 21:58.18 | aeryndunham | I feel like day 2 I should paste into a spreadsheet :p |
| 21:58.26 | aeryndunham | But no, I will diligently learn the JS to do it |
| 21:58.29 | RyanE | I solved part 1, and the way I had solved it was *not* applicable to part 2. |
| 21:58.38 | RyanE | so I had to start over for part 2. |
| 21:59.28 | SunSparc | RyanE: Yeah, that happens on some of his puzzles. He likes to keep it exciting. |
| 21:59.47 | aeryndunham | Ooh its 5:00 |
| 21:59.49 | aeryndunham | I am going to go home now |
| 22:00.01 | RyanE | eastern-timezone elitist! :) |
| 22:00.06 | SunSparc | lol |
| 22:00.06 | aeryndunham | haha |
| 22:00.09 | spangborn | Almost time to hop the train and play Zelda :) |
| 22:00.58 | RyanE | aeryndunham: keep plugging away at the AoC (if it's something you want to do). Feel free to ask questions here... :) |
| 22:01.19 | SunSparc | +1 ^ |
| 22:22.38 | programmerq | yeah, newer firmware applied and the web interface is accessible now. |
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| 22:49.45 | keldwud | any good troubleshooting / recovery techniques for flapping services in docker swarm? |
| 22:50.07 | keldwud | when scaling it to 0 then back up or removing it altogether doesn't resolve the issue |
| 22:50.44 | keldwud | and docker inspect on the taskID doesn't provide any details |
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| 23:07.46 | SunSparc | If you have already done your AoC for the day, try the Google Doodle: https://g.co/doodle/ug9chu?ds=cl |
| 23:15.40 | programmerq | keldwud⸠s/in docker swarm//g |
| 23:15.52 | programmerq | it'll depend totally on the thing that's running and much less on the fact that it's running in a swarm |
| 23:16.11 | programmerq | unless you're not clear on the docker-specific ways to access and introspect the running processes |
| 23:20.56 | programmerq | so I'm messing with iscsi. I added an iscsi datastore to my esxi host. my freenas is running as a virtual machine, so vmware is accessing a virtualized iscsi server that it is hosting itself. |