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| 13:30.33 | aeryndunham | I canât quit on day 2, right? |
| 14:03.42 | straya | Yes you can |
| 14:28.05 | aeryndunham | i want to give it a chance but yesterday and this morning have been awful |
| 14:29.03 | straya | what are you doing? |
| 14:29.55 | aeryndunham | I donât know |
| 14:30.03 | aeryndunham | my job title is project coordinator |
| 14:30.11 | aeryndunham | but no one tells me anything |
| 14:30.31 | straya | give it a bit |
| 15:04.20 | manithree | Redhat's giving up on btrfs - what's going to replace it? |
| 15:22.15 | TodPunk | zfs? |
| 15:22.24 | manithree | I wish |
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| 15:31.15 | youtah | ~tea |
| 15:31.52 | youtah | goozbach takes youtah out for tea and crumpets |
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| 15:33.27 | youtah | ~teaandcrumpets |
| 15:33.45 | youtah | hmmmm, infobot is not wise in the ways of the English crumpet |
| 16:40.23 | frostyfrog | Morning, morning |
| 16:40.32 | spangborn_ | ~youtah drake |
| 16:40.32 | infobot | ACTION takes drake's picture |
| 16:40.44 | frostyfrog | Or if you live on the east coast.... Good afternoon. ;) |
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| 17:10.57 | youtah | ~literal youtah |
| 17:10.57 | infobot | "youtah" is "<reply>(Did someone say Nachos?|Mmmm Bacon)" |
| 17:11.04 | youtah | ~youtah |
| 17:11.04 | infobot | Did someone say Nachos? |
| 17:11.35 | spangborn_ | ~youtah Drake |
| 17:11.35 | infobot | ACTION calls Drake on the radio |
| 17:11.38 | spangborn_ | perfect |
| 17:11.45 | youtah | lol |
| 17:12.56 | frostyfrog | .... .. .-.. .-.. --- >_> .. -.- .- --- w |
| 17:13.37 | aeryndunham | aaaaaaaaaargh network engineers I cannot tell you what server these applications live on because its a docker swarm and if the list of hostnames and IPs for the docker swarm is not enough, unless I fundamentally misunderstand how docker works, I cannot help you further |
| 17:14.48 | frostyfrog | ... |
| 17:14.54 | frostyfrog | Docker, eh? |
| 17:15.10 | frostyfrog | with docker swarm? |
| 17:15.21 | aeryndunham | Apparently? |
| 17:15.24 | frostyfrog | Docker swarm would make it more difficult. |
| 17:15.55 | aeryndunham | I have a list of 10 servers, 3 are docker managers and 7 are workers |
| 17:16.06 | aeryndunham | and⦠I dunno what else I can tell them? |
| 17:16.07 | youtah | I made a container once |
| 17:16.09 | frostyfrog | But I would think that you could run a swarm command that would give you the host. |
| 17:16.10 | youtah | it was amazing |
| 17:16.22 | aeryndunham | I have no access |
| 17:16.26 | aeryndunham | iâm a project coordinator |
| 17:16.39 | aeryndunham | I donât even have a computer or email, I brought my own laptop today |
| 17:16.46 | youtah | http://imgur.com/gallery/5YG4j |
| 17:16.50 | frostyfrog | aeryndunham: I would think you could ask someone who does have access? |
| 17:16.52 | aeryndunham | (I started yesterday and Iâm miserable) |
| 17:17.05 | aeryndunham | no one is explaining what they want me to do |
| 17:17.15 | aeryndunham | and when they try, I think they donât actually understand what they want |
| 17:19.57 | aeryndunham | and man do I wish I knew more Linux, itâs like a dirty word in here, people here the word and panic, but like the stuff they want done Iâm sitting here ffs I could do that |
| 17:21.04 | aeryndunham | Like, one of the ships I guess has Docker on it, but completely unconfigured and not used yet, and they need it upgraded to the latest version and apparently no one here can do that |
| 17:21.10 | aeryndunham | Iâm pretty sure *I* could do that |
| 17:21.20 | aeryndunham | and these are IT people |
| 17:21.33 | frostyfrog | o.o |
| 17:21.49 | aeryndunham | everyone is just like âIâm not a Linux admin" |
| 17:22.11 | aeryndunham | and I wanna be like jesus peopel just tell me if theyâre on redhat or ubuntu or what and Iâll DO IT FOR YOU THIS IS NOT HARD |
| 17:22.23 | frostyfrog | would have casually said, "Oh, that's just a yum update or apt-get away" |
| 17:22.51 | youtah | depends on your definition of hard |
| 17:22.56 | youtah | I guess |
| 17:23.01 | youtah | using a fax machine is hard |
| 17:23.02 | spangborn_ | TWSS |
| 17:23.11 | youtah | oh wait, no.... not hard... i guess that's scary |
| 17:23.15 | frostyfrog | And "linux admin"? Seriously? |
| 17:23.32 | youtah | There are only three things that scare me |
| 17:23.35 | aeryndunham | Like, sure, maybe upgrading is harder if you are using Docker? Or something? But if literally all youâve done there is âsudo apt install dockerâ or whatevs and itâs out of date? so easy |
| 17:23.50 | youtah | Fax Machines, Produce Codes at a cash register & Setting security alarms |
| 17:23.55 | frostyfrog | That's like saying "I can't install programs on windows because I'm not a Windows Admin" |
| 17:24.00 | aeryndunham | I know right |
| 17:24.15 | aeryndunham | oooh scary command line or something |
| 17:24.20 | frostyfrog | ^ |
| 17:29.41 | jima | youtah: i used to know a ton of PLUs, but they've faded in the last 17 years. |
| 17:30.00 | jima | there are a few that still stick out, like 4011 |
| 17:30.46 | aeryndunham | iâm actually hoping that I can use my linux knowledge to help with more interesting projects because dang if no one in the room can type yum update I can probably be useful :p |
| 17:32.17 | jima | actually, maybe the weirder thing is that PLUs have stayed constant in those 17 years. :-\ |
| 17:32.37 | jima | aeryndunham: who would ever want to update, or worse, replace their system with a more modern install? |
| 17:33.50 | jima | aeryndunham: (this is a bitter topic for me because my network environment was just blamed for someone's inability to ftps to another business unit's server...it turns out the far end is enforcing tls 1.2 and the local linux box they were testing from can't talk tls 1.1+) |
| 17:34.08 | aeryndunham | yeesh |
| 17:34.16 | jima | but who needs SECURITY??? |
| 17:34.37 | frostyfrog | Medical companies |
| 17:34.39 | aeryndunham | I think the person who keeps harping me for specific host names and IPs is obviouls just erroneously thinking we are using vmware or something? |
| 17:34.41 | frostyfrog | Governments |
| 17:34.42 | frostyfrog | Etc |
| 17:34.54 | aeryndunham | Like heâs expecting a separate VM for every application |
| 17:35.07 | aeryndunham | and I wanna be like âso thereâs this thing called Dockerâ |
| 17:35.11 | jima | frostyfrog: that's a naive-sounding response. :-) |
| 17:35.34 | frostyfrog | aeryndunham: If you'd like a more in-depth rundown of docker, let me know. |
| 17:35.36 | aeryndunham | I sat down for 20 mins with one of the Cloud Engineers down the hall and I think I understand the setup better than some people in here |
| 17:35.56 | frostyfrog | jima: Only because I work with them and their requirements ;p |
| 17:36.15 | aeryndunham | I am fairly sure I understand roughly how Docker works, and why itâs cool, but if you feel like explaining Iâm always up for learning |
| 17:36.34 | jima | frostyfrog: yeah, hypothetically, but there's a lot of legacy crap in those (and other) realms that aren't even close to secure. |
| 17:36.47 | spangborn_ | hacks jima's toaster |
| 17:37.03 | frostyfrog | pokes at spangborn_'s rpi. |
| 17:37.07 | jima | spangborn_: good luck finding the ipv6 address |
| 17:37.18 | spangborn_ | shh, don't tell youtah the rpi is still in his house |
| 17:37.27 | spangborn_ | jima: lol what is ipv6 anyway |
| 17:37.44 | jima | dig +short _toast._tcp.jima.us. SRV |
| 17:37.46 | jima | OH NOES |
| 17:38.05 | jima | spangborn_: welcome to my last ~15 years |
| 17:38.15 | jima | except for the part where i got a job in #ipv6 |
| 17:38.19 | spangborn_ | lol |
| 17:38.21 | jima | and moved to utah |
| 17:38.32 | spangborn_ | well at least you're not in Minnesota |
| 17:38.37 | spangborn_ | they don't even sell beer in gas stations there |
| 17:38.38 | jima | that's true |
| 17:38.47 | jima | spangborn_: enh, it's 3.2% anyway |
| 17:39.01 | spangborn_ | I got laughed at when asking why a gas station didn't have beer |
| 17:39.03 | spangborn_ | in MPLS |
| 17:39.14 | jima | they don't do state liquor stores there, although the liquor stores ARE closed on sundays. |
| 17:39.36 | spangborn_ | Don't they have drive-thru liquor stores too? |
| 17:39.38 | jima | some cities do municipal liquor stores |
| 17:39.43 | jima | oh yeah, totally |
| 17:39.46 | spangborn_ | lol |
| 17:39.51 | spangborn_ | No gas station booze, but drive-thru booze |
| 17:39.52 | spangborn_ | OKAY |
| 17:40.17 | jima | e.g. https://www.yelp.com/biz/stranskys-drive-in-liquors-saint-paul |
| 17:41.16 | jima | actually i guess there's another one near an old job site of mine |
| 17:48.37 | aeryndunham | also i want to have some words with whoever is running Confluence here because I can find NOTHING |
| 18:13.14 | joshh | don't all confluence have worthless search? |
| 18:13.27 | aeryndunham | yeah itâs pretty worthles |
| 18:13.29 | joshh | assuming anyone has even written anything to find |
| 18:14.08 | aeryndunham | also it is extra complicated here because we have all these different companies working on different applications and all the teams have chosen stupid nautical code names so its really hard to find what youâre actually looking for |
| 18:38.49 | aeryndunham | Mostly Iâm just spending a day reading about all the different technology we are using |
| 18:51.48 | manithree | https://twitter.com/BostonGlobe/status/892485878731476993 |
| 19:06.30 | frostyfrog | aeryndunham: That's a good way to spend the day. It at least brings you up to speed and gets you familiar with the different tech being used. |
| 19:06.40 | aeryndunham | never heard of most of it :p |
| 19:06.54 | frostyfrog | ^.^ |
| 19:07.20 | frostyfrog | Most of it seems to be back-end based, and part of niche use cases. Doesn't surprise me. |
| 19:07.29 | aeryndunham | itâs interesting, though |
| 19:07.57 | aeryndunham | I know my job really isnât IT but Iâm hoping to involve myself with projects as IT-adjacent as possible |
| 19:10.36 | frostyfrog | *cough* apt-get update docker *cough* |
| 19:10.58 | spangborn_ | apt-get remove --purge docker |
| 19:12.55 | aeryndunham | hahaha |
| 19:24.01 | frostyfrog | That works too |
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| 19:53.47 | TodPunk | http://imgur.com/gallery/2BcodMA |
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| 20:12.18 | youtah | SNACKY SNACKS |
| 20:12.37 | frostyfrog | What kind you get? |
| 20:15.00 | youtah | I am going to go get beef jerky |
| 20:16.30 | frostyfrog | Mmm, sounds good. |
| 20:16.46 | frostyfrog | has Peanut M&Ms and Gummy Bears. |
| 20:18.51 | spangborn_ | ~youtah radio |
| 20:18.51 | infobot | ACTION calls radio on the radio |
| 20:22.07 | frostyfrog | Isn't that similar to using one of the digital modes? |
| 20:26.24 | spangborn_ | ~youtah missionaries |
| 20:26.24 | infobot | ACTION eats nachos with missionaries |
| 20:28.29 | aeryndunham | there are snacks here. one perk of this office. no shortage of free food and drink. |
| 20:29.26 | youtah | ditto |
| 20:29.29 | youtah | it is making me fat |
| 20:29.36 | youtah | I was already Phat though |
| 20:29.39 | youtah | just ask goozbach |
| 20:29.49 | spangborn_ | You're not fat |
| 20:29.53 | spangborn_ | You're just overfat http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/31/health/overfat-obesity-study/index.html |
| 20:29.58 | youtah | LOL |
| 20:29.59 | youtah | oh no |
| 20:30.16 | spangborn_ | I'm still not sure which is worse, overfat or fat |
| 20:30.53 | spangborn_ | "overfat" seems like more of a scientific description |
| 20:30.59 | spangborn_ | As in "you have too much fat" |
| 21:22.50 | romanovic | wow. http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/business/tvaddons-piracy-rogers-bell-videotron-court-1.4231340 |
| 21:23.02 | romanovic | "On June 9, the telecoms got an Anton Piller order, a civil search warrant that gives a plaintiff access to a defendant's home, without notice, to search for and seize relevant evidence before it can be destroyed." |
| 21:24.52 | romanovic | "'The whole experience was horrifying,' says Adam Lackman, founder of TVAddons and defendant in a copyright infringement lawsuit launched by the television giants. 'It felt like the kind of thing you would have expected to have happened in the Soviet Union.' " |
| 21:25.09 | joshh | whoa was that the tvaddons.ag guy? |
| 21:25.32 | joshh | saw the article about the corporate raid yesterday but didn't note which pirate-shop it was about |
| 21:35.00 | romanovic | https://torrentfreak.com/tvaddons-returns-ugly-war-canadian-telcos-kodi-addons-170801/ |
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| 21:51.51 | youtah | ~cheeseburger |
| 21:51.51 | infobot | i heard cheeseburger is good |
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| 22:02.39 | youtah | ~nachos |
| 22:02.39 | infobot | schweet. |
| 22:05.43 | frostyfrog | velcomen bakc! :3 |
| 22:06.13 | youtah | Fo Sho |
| 22:06.19 | youtah | I wanna get into Rally Cross |
| 22:06.47 | aeryndunham | I lived through my day. |
| 22:06.49 | aeryndunham | Barely. |
| 22:06.59 | aeryndunham | I really hope this job improves quickly. |
| 22:22.09 | romanovic | Hopefully it will. Having had four first days on the job in the last 6 years, the first two days or even two weeks wasn |
| 22:22.19 | romanovic | wasn't really representative of my happiness with the job later on |
| 22:24.02 | romanovic | at my current job I was basically useless for the first 8 - 10 days. Just going to HR info sessions, product familiarisation sessions, tons of computer setup that I had to do myself |