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| 16:55.54 | frostyfrog | Morning :) |
| 16:56.08 | frostyfrog | broke their home network multiple times last night. |
| 16:56.35 | youtah | LOL |
| 17:00.55 | SunSparc | infobot: congratulate frostyfrog |
| 17:00.55 | infobot | ACTION congratulates frostyfrog on being a new owner of a $500 brick. |
| 17:02.03 | frostyfrog | xD |
| 17:03.43 | SunSparc | broke the internet just for one computer in his house last night |
| 17:03.47 | SunSparc | But it was intentional. |
| 17:04.08 | SunSparc | Got a teenager that likes to get up in the middle of the night and mess around on the computer. |
| 17:04.24 | SunSparc | If he was programming or hacking that would be one thing. |
| 17:05.40 | SunSparc | ~lart teenagers |
| 17:05.40 | infobot | decapitates teenagers conan the destroyer style |
| 17:05.53 | SunSparc | Well, that may be a bit of overkill, infobot. |
| 17:24.45 | SunSparc | https://twitter.com/EWDurbin/status/891876930198351872 |
| 17:25.09 | jima | ha |
| 17:25.22 | SunSparc | This one is brilliant. Need to implement it in my house. https://twitter.com/bketelsen/status/892141526213591041 |
| 17:29.35 | frostyfrog | SunSparc: I was playing with VLANs with my router and a mesh node... Long story short? When the router has 2 ips on two different ports on the switch in the same subnet, and you flip one of the ports into trunked mode without auto-tagging, it's a lose-lose as far as connectivity goes. Lost connection to the switch (it's on a different subnet) and my router. |
| 17:30.56 | frostyfrog | (But I've also intentionally "broken" my network for child reasons as well. Such as forcing restricted youtube mode, removing search engines, etc. |
| 17:30.58 | SunSparc | frostyfrog: Nice. Sounds like it was a successful learning experience. :) |
| 17:31.08 | frostyfrog | I sure hope so! |
| 17:31.36 | frostyfrog | Still don't have it configures, and I don't want to spend another 2-3 hours trying to get it to work. |
| 17:31.55 | SunSparc | As my children have gotten older, and "wiser", it has forced me to be more clever is my sysadmin role at home. |
| 17:32.16 | SunSparc | frostyfrog: What were you trying to accomplish? |
| 17:32.26 | SunSparc | Separate networks? |
| 17:32.41 | SunSparc | Kids net and parent net? :D |
| 17:33.01 | frostyfrog | That's already achieved. |
| 17:33.17 | SunSparc | Nice. My wife has asked me about doing something like that as well. |
| 17:33.46 | frostyfrog | What I was trying to do is allow the PCs in the "parents net" to access the AREDN mesh network. |
| 17:33.46 | SunSparc | So I can just shut off the kidsnet whenever and not affect the parentsnet |
| 17:34.17 | SunSparc | Ooh... |
| 17:34.19 | frostyfrog | I had achieved the kids net/parents net with seperate subnets with no VLANS. |
| 17:34.21 | SunSparc | googles |
| 17:34.49 | frostyfrog | VLANs would just add to the separation |
| 17:35.03 | SunSparc | Right. |
| 17:35.54 | SunSparc | One more cool Ham link for my growing list of things to do in the Ham world. |
| 17:36.07 | SunSparc | infobot: Give me another 24 hours per day |
| 17:36.07 | infobot | ACTION gives another 24 hours per day to sunsparc |
| 17:36.11 | SunSparc | Thanks. |
| 17:36.32 | SunSparc | wonders how to access his extra day... |
| 17:36.41 | frostyfrog | It's really simple to setup a node. When you start using vlans to seperate, then it can get hairy. |
| 17:37.10 | SunSparc | vlans == hairy |
| 17:37.12 | SunSparc | got it |
| 17:38.12 | SunSparc | We've messed with vlans at work. Took quite a while to get them just the way we wanted. Definitely hairy. |
| 17:39.10 | jima | <3 vlans |
| 17:39.49 | jima | but also <3 ipv6, so i may be in the minority |
| 17:40.24 | SunSparc | wants to love ipv6 |
| 17:40.52 | jima | i would not live in utah if not for ipv6 |
| 17:40.55 | jima | ymmv |
| 17:45.57 | frostyfrog | My only reason why I don't use IPv6? |
| 17:46.16 | frostyfrog | My IPv4 iptables routing rules in my router... >_> |
| 17:46.39 | jima | ...ok? |
| 17:48.35 | frostyfrog | ~ [ grep -v '^$' /etc/iptables/iptables.rules|grep -v '^#.*$'|wc -l |
| 17:48.36 | frostyfrog | 266 |
| 17:48.36 | frostyfrog | That's excluding the lines I've commented out. Take the second grep off? |
| 17:48.36 | frostyfrog | 398 |
| 17:54.36 | jima | you make routing determinations within iptables? |
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| 20:48.54 | jlp_znc | I have just received the most interesting spam for a new product... SMALT. It's an "interactive centerpiece", complete with bluetooth speakers, multi-colored lights, and... a salt dispenser. and it interfaces with amazon echo! |
| 20:49.43 | jlp_znc | https://igg.me/at/mysmalt/x/617336 |
| 20:52.54 | jlp_znc | so, for example, you can say "alexa, give me a half teaspoon of salt", then it will dispense what you asked for. yes, really. |
| 20:59.44 | TodPunk | Maybe I really should go out and get funding. I have an actual product and customers, though, so I'm probably not sexy enough a company to invest in. |
| 21:10.32 | jlp_znc | you'll never get funding with an attitude like that! |
| 21:21.29 | TodPunk | yeah. I'll have to settle for revenue, I guess. Sad. |
| 21:58.16 | spangborn_ | Speaking of Amazon echo https://labs.mwrinfosecurity.com/blog/alexa-are-you-listening/ |
| 21:59.36 | jlp_znc | there's some talk show host (jimmy kimmel, maybe) who routinely says things like "alexa, order jimmy's new book" or whatever |
| 22:07.36 | TodPunk | spangborn_: I stop reading pretty much any security advisory that says "with physical access, this computer system can be compromised" |
| 22:07.41 | TodPunk | like, duh |
| 22:07.59 | TodPunk | "They won't even know, mannnnn" |
| 22:08.21 | spangborn_ | Well the debug port makes pretty quick work |
| 22:08.37 | TodPunk | yes |
| 22:08.39 | jlp_znc | http://usbrubberducky.com/#!index.md |
| 22:08.40 | TodPunk | physical access does that |
| 22:08.44 | spangborn_ | I think exposing that port outside of the case was not the best decision |
| 22:09.13 | TodPunk | so the fix here is "put some epoxy on that if you're that paranoid about people connecting to your debug port on your alexa, instead of bugging your house directly while they're in there" |
| 22:09.42 | spangborn_ | Well that also makes it very easy to intercept in transit |
| 22:09.51 | spangborn_ | modify it, and let it end up at the destination |
| 22:10.11 | TodPunk | You mean like literally every computer in you have ever purchased? |
| 22:10.14 | spangborn_ | Why is the air so garbage right now? https://airnow.gov/index.cfm?action=airnow.local_city&cityid=186 |
| 22:10.57 | TodPunk | I mean, x86 alone has had their sub-ring-0 stuff for pretty much all active computers used today time. |
| 22:11.20 | TodPunk | I'm a fan of the Mickens computer security model |
| 22:11.24 | TodPunk | Mossad, or not-Mossad |
| 22:12.07 | TodPunk | On the subject of air quality, weren't we at Very Unhealthy not long ago? Not that I'm pleased with it currently, of course |
| 22:13.59 | TodPunk | jlp_znc: I desire this |