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| 15:09.02 | frostyfrog | Morning, morning :) |
| 15:09.58 | jima | LIES |
| 15:12.16 | frostyfrog | Lee Is Everyone's Sailor? |
| 15:12.55 | frostyfrog | Oh wait |
| 15:13.11 | frostyfrog | Levi Isn't Everyone's Savior? |
| 15:39.48 | youtah | More Nun |
| 15:41.31 | youtah | straya, I am too lazy to turn on time stamps. Was that visit from Nani_Boy over the weekend? |
| 15:41.44 | straya | youtah: yes that is correct |
| 15:41.52 | straya | it was saturday night |
| 15:42.44 | youtah | surprised someone was on |
| 15:43.01 | youtah | was sitting by a campfire at 8000 feet |
| 15:45.03 | straya | Haha |
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| 16:11.21 | frostyfrog | At least you were keeping warm ;) |
| 16:13.31 | frostyfrog | And yeah. AFAIK, most of us are only watching IRC at work >_> |
| 16:13.49 | frostyfrog | Or at least, that's what it feels like to me. |
| 16:16.06 | spangborn_ | I just ignore people I don't like |
| 16:16.17 | spangborn_ | Anyone seen youtah lately |
| 16:19.49 | jima | frostyfrog: i can neither confirm nor deny that (officially). |
| 16:20.01 | jima | spangborn_: nope |
| 16:23.27 | frostyfrog | spangborn_: How far back in time would be considered "lately"? |
| 16:23.42 | spangborn_ | Say maybe around 9:41 |
| 16:26.09 | frostyfrog | Nope. I don't work with him, so I haven't "seen" him. ;p |
| 16:29.45 | spangborn_ | RIP youtah |
| 16:34.00 | frostyfrog | If you said since this last week, I'd be obligated to say yes. |
| 16:37.05 | spangborn_ | ~seen youtah |
| 16:37.08 | infobot | youtah is currently on #utah. Has said a total of 147 messages. Is idling for 54m 24s, last said: 'surprised someone was on '. |
| 16:42.21 | straya | youtah: I'm on IRC all the time lol, though mostly at work |
| 16:44.36 | youtah | ~seen spangborn_ |
| 16:44.37 | infobot | spangborn_ is currently on #utah (3d 18h 56s). Has said a total of 20 messages. Is idling for 7m 32s, last said: '~seen youtah'. |
| 16:44.53 | spangborn_ | ~seen youtah |
| 16:44.54 | infobot | youtah is currently on #utah. Has said a total of 148 messages. Is idling for 18s, last said: '~seen spangborn_ '. |
| 16:44.58 | youtah | ~seen spangborn_ |
| 16:44.58 | infobot | spangborn_ is currently on #utah (3d 18h 1m 17s). Has said a total of 21 messages. Is idling for 5s, last said: '~seen youtah'. |
| 16:45.02 | youtah | ah dang |
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| 17:24.50 | jima | woo, moved my ipv6 lab to the other side of my workstation, and pulled out the second managed switch. much quiet in my cube now. |
| 17:29.08 | youtah | ~nachos |
| 17:29.08 | infobot | schweet. |
| 17:55.36 | TodPunk | ~kronk |
| 17:55.36 | infobot | Well, I had a great time; let's not wait till the next family reunion to get back together. |
| 17:56.47 | frostyfrog | Pull the lever, Kronk! |
| 17:57.14 | frostyfrog | Wroooonnnngg leeeeevvvvveeeeeerrrrrrrrrrr~ |
| 17:59.17 | romanovic | What do you do with a 3 yr old who has the body of a 5 yr old and the strength of an 8 yr old? But no ability to reason logically about taking risks or heeding warnings? |
| 18:00.49 | romanovic | my daughter sent my son to the emergency room after stomp-crushing a child safety lock on a cabinet and dumping cleaner over his head, which got in his eyes. |
| 18:01.38 | frostyfrog | Sounds like a scary kid. |
| 18:01.52 | frostyfrog | How's your life insurance? |
| 18:01.56 | frostyfrog | Joking aside... |
| 18:02.24 | romanovic | also, we've tried several child locks on our doors, the ones we currently use are steel locks that latch onto a small post bolted into the door frame |
| 18:02.44 | frostyfrog | o.o |
| 18:02.47 | SunSparc | romanovic: http://www.neatorama.com/neatobambino/2013/08/06/Straitjackets-and-Other-Control-Toys-for-Unruly-Kids/ |
| 18:02.52 | romanovic | but she's strong enough that if she really wants to get through, she applies so much force to the door that the bolt just splits the doorframe wood |
| 18:04.33 | romanovic | and this morning, at the hospital while getting my son's eyes checked up, my daughter jumped up while my wife was trying to pick her up and broke several of my wife's teeth |
| 18:05.11 | romanovic | so, emergency dental work |
| 18:26.20 | frostyfrog | Ooouch... |
| 18:26.47 | frostyfrog | Need some help with that straight jacket? |
| 18:38.34 | youtah | Honestly romanovic |
| 18:38.43 | youtah | contact her pediatrician and ask him/her. |
| 18:39.19 | youtah | A) they will know that this is a problem and can document the fact that this is happening and that you aren't doing anything harmful to your children |
| 18:39.34 | youtah | B) they might have some great suggestions |
| 18:40.15 | spangborn_ | wew glad I don't have kids |
| 18:40.27 | romanovic | my wife did exactly that, a couple weeks ago. his determination was that she really has no behavioral problems, she's acting like a normal 3 yr old. She just has super strength |
| 18:41.31 | youtah | right |
| 18:41.33 | youtah | perfect |
| 18:41.39 | romanovic | he didn't recommend any different safety measures at home, though. we'll have to figure that part out |
| 18:42.18 | youtah | L shaped metal brackets (cheap from Lowes) that you can screw on the back side of your cabinets |
| 18:42.24 | youtah | at least under the sink, etc |
| 18:42.37 | youtah | also perhaps put in some high off the ground cabinets in the garage |
| 18:42.42 | youtah | to store cleaning chemicals, etc |
| 18:42.58 | youtah | huge inconvenience for you guys, but might be worth it |
| 18:43.40 | romanovic | yeah. that's one thing we could do. if we can secure the garage door (that's the one she broke the lock on) and move all of the dangerous materials out there |
| 18:46.28 | spangborn_ | Gun safe |
| 18:46.30 | spangborn_ | problem solved |
| 18:46.30 | youtah | Oh |
| 18:46.38 | youtah | I guess it's called a Bare Angle |
| 18:47.09 | youtah | https://mobileimages.lowes.com/product/converted/053538/053538616014.jpg |
| 18:47.28 | youtah | Screw some of that on the back side to increase the structural integrity of the cabinet? |
| 18:47.42 | youtah | or perhaps go with some of the square tubing? |
| 18:48.36 | youtah | https://www.lowes.com/pd/Steelworks-3-ft-L-x-1-in-W-x-1-in-H-Plated-Steel-Perforated-Square-Tube/3049421 |
| 18:52.51 | romanovic | I do have some square tube around... just not perforated |
| 18:53.43 | romanovic | I wonder if I can weld together some new child safety locks from steel plate and tube that will never break |
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| 19:01.24 | youtah | sounds like a start to a good solution |
| 19:04.03 | frostyfrog | indeed |
| 19:04.47 | frostyfrog | Another idea that my parents had to use for our front door. Double sided deadbolts. |
| 19:05.29 | jima | those are great, so long as there's not an easier path |
| 19:05.40 | spangborn_ | like a dog crate |
| 19:05.47 | jima | or at least, a path of lesser resistance |
| 19:05.47 | spangborn_ | ducks |
| 19:06.08 | jima | we had a foster kid like that once. |
| 19:06.30 | jima | we ended up adopting him, and eventually he mellowed out, for the most part. |
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| 19:09.06 | youtah | romanovic, slap a couple of these up high in your garage https://www.lowes.com/pd/Diamond-NOW-Arcadia-36-in-W-x-30-in-H-x-12-in-D-White-Shaker-Door-Wall-Cabinet/1000092165 |
| 19:09.38 | youtah | Cheaper https://www.lowes.com/pd/Project-Source-30-in-W-x-18-in-H-x-12-in-D-Unfinished-Door-Wall-Cabinet/50134948 |
| 19:20.18 | jlp_znc | https://github.com/EnterpriseQualityCoding/FizzBuzzEnterpriseEdition |
| 19:20.41 | youtah | Anthony Scaramucci ... 10 days and he's been removed by Trump |
| 19:20.54 | jlp_znc | A NEW RECORD! |
| 19:21.34 | jlp_znc | he was too pretty, anyway. |
| 19:21.40 | youtah | "relieving him just days after Mr. Scaramucci unloaded a crude verbal tirade against other senior members of the presidentâs senior staff." |
| 19:22.00 | youtah | What could be worse than the "Grab'em" sentence? |
| 19:22.10 | jlp_znc | oh dear |
| 19:22.13 | jlp_znc | inded |
| 19:22.21 | jlp_znc | s/inded/indeed/ |
| 19:24.13 | youtah | http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/07/trump-fires-anthony-scaramucci-as-white-house-communications-director/ <<< Second to last paragraph |
| 19:28.29 | jima | #unnecessaryquotes |
| 19:28.40 | jima | #unnecessaryhashtags |
| 19:28.53 | youtah | #No |
| 19:28.55 | youtah | #Such |
| 19:28.57 | youtah | #Thing |
| 19:29.12 | jima | #unnecessarilybrokenuphashtags |
| 19:31.35 | jima | and yeah, the news about scaramucci is...only slightly surprising. |
| 19:33.13 | youtah | https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20431636_10155217659098283_5387881904846774288_n.jpg?oh=3ddc13c84916642f5bac54d087dce367&oe=59FFD061 |
| 19:33.56 | frostyfrog | Hey youtah. This looks like it could be fun for a mobile rig: http://gizmodo.com/ebay-auction-for-old-fbi-surveillance-van-ends-today-1797184020 |
| 19:42.51 | frostyfrog | Replace all the surveillance stuff with radio gear, lay some solar panels on the roof to charge all three batteries, haul a trailer with a tower and an antenna... |
| 19:44.54 | jima | at that point you might as well just buy something new ;-) |
| 19:45.26 | frostyfrog | I agree, but the idea and the layout could be roughly the same. |
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| 20:39.58 | manithree | I would have to move my router if I bought that van (wifi ssid: FBI_SURVEILLANCE_VAN) |
| 20:40.46 | jima | manithree: if you bought that, i would GIVE you wireless access points with which to announce goofy ssids |
| 20:42.13 | spangborn_ | I only hack access points named along those lines |
| 20:42.33 | jima | spangborn_: ...assuming they're connected to anything meaningful. ;-) |
| 20:42.47 | spangborn_ | Well at the very least I rename the SSID |
| 20:43.37 | jima | i keep musing over the notion of setting up a bunch of APs connected to nothing with tantalizing SSIDs |
| 20:43.53 | jima | or, connected to just enough to log the shenanigans |
| 20:48.43 | manithree | ponders creating multiple vlans with randomly generated ssids containing NSA, FBI, ISIS, FSB, etc. |
| 20:55.23 | frostyfrog | ponders sticking an AP with the SSID of 'Invisible FBI Van' in their car, always on |
| 20:57.05 | frostyfrog | "Where's the FBI van? I don't see it" "Well, it does say invisible..." |
| 20:59.20 | frostyfrog | I doubt that they've created invisible vans without anyone knowing... wait.. |
| 20:59.20 | frostyfrog | Why would anyone know? |
| 21:01.20 | RyanE | 'McDonalds Free WiFi' |
| 21:01.24 | jima | when they hit it |
| 21:01.36 | spangborn_ | I just drive around with Wifi Pineapples |
| 21:01.43 | spangborn_ | and steal all ur datas |
| 21:02.04 | jima | wifi pineapples are so passe. wifi cacti are the rage now. |
| 21:02.45 | spangborn_ | youtah doesn't even know I have an rPi on his home network |
| 21:03.01 | jima | spangborn_: well he will now! |
| 21:04.32 | spangborn_ | watches youtah scramble to find it |
| 21:15.12 | frostyfrog | Haven't you said that a few times already? |
| 21:15.58 | frostyfrog | Er... nevermind. sorry. My mistake. |
| 21:16.14 | frostyfrog | grumbles something about time and relativity and machines. |
| 21:16.25 | spangborn_ | lol I have before |
| 21:16.32 | spangborn_ | and he then says he has a network monitor running |
| 21:16.32 | frostyfrog | ;) |
| 21:16.33 | TodPunk | never gets old |
| 21:16.44 | spangborn_ | But he still hasn't found it |
| 21:17.02 | TodPunk | especially when spangborn_ shows me the logs he's been pulling |
| 21:17.03 | frostyfrog | I've seen some of his stuff. pretty cool :) |
| 21:17.05 | spangborn_ | I'm exfiltrating one lightning photo every 2 minutes |
| 21:17.42 | frostyfrog | pics, or it didn't happen. |
| 21:18.51 | TodPunk | like a screenshot? |
| 21:19.13 | TodPunk | seems like more fun to keep it a secret until he finds it |
| 21:19.26 | frostyfrog | Well, you know... |
| 21:19.28 | spangborn_ | He'll probably never see this anyway |
| 21:19.38 | spangborn_ | That would imply he's actually at his desk |
| 21:19.49 | frostyfrog | Lightning wouldn't happen if it weren't for youtah taking so many photoes of it >_> |
| 21:20.42 | frostyfrog | s/photoes/photos |
| 21:21.16 | frostyfrog | listens to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbJwwJ33TEI |
| 21:23.39 | youtah | spangborn_, rPi's can't handle my network |
| 21:23.41 | youtah | too fast |
| 21:24.04 | TodPunk | the RPi 3 can |
| 21:24.24 | youtah | nope |
| 21:24.25 | youtah | too weak |
| 21:24.39 | spangborn_ | https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blogs/jeff-geerling/getting-gigabit-networking |
| 21:24.41 | spangborn_ | ezpz |
| 21:24.59 | youtah | terabit networking |
| 21:25.08 | youtah | gigabit is so crappy and old school |
| 21:26.04 | youtah | They need to come out with another Star Wars pod racing game |
| 21:26.08 | youtah | it's been too long |
| 21:26.20 | frostyfrog | It better be a good one too |
| 21:26.30 | youtah | N64 was so so long ago |
| 21:26.36 | youtah | in a Galaxy far far away |
| 21:26.42 | frostyfrog | I played the PC version, originally. |
| 21:26.52 | frostyfrog | still has their 64. |
| 21:27.27 | eightyeight | reading google's site reliability engineering book, and in chapter two, they talk about their software networking router "Jupiter", and state: |
| 21:27.50 | eightyeight | "In its largest configuration, Jupiter supports 1.3 Pbps bisection bandwidth among servers." |
| 21:28.11 | TodPunk | With two multi-homed USB gigabit nics you might get it closer to gigabit speeds. |
| 21:28.25 | youtah | That's freaking awesome eightyeight |
| 21:29.09 | eightyeight | 1.3 Pbps. That's not a typo. Petabits per second. |
| 21:29.11 | eightyeight | o.0 |
| 21:29.26 | frostyfrog | ... |
| 21:29.28 | frostyfrog | I want one |
| 21:29.28 | TodPunk | that's awesome |
| 21:29.37 | youtah | I'll take three please |
| 21:29.40 | TodPunk | I'm just happy with my gigabit |
| 21:29.42 | youtah | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBrfYTbRHS8#t=2m41s |
| 21:29.52 | TodPunk | I upgraded my wifi yesterday, too |
| 21:30.01 | frostyfrog | I just need faster internet than comcast first. |
| 21:30.44 | TodPunk | comcast has their 2Gigabit offering in my neighborhood |
| 21:30.52 | TodPunk | it's still comcast, but it's there |
| 21:31.01 | youtah | I remember thinking "Wowm those graphics are amazing" |
| 21:31.09 | jima | TodPunk: where's that? |
| 21:31.23 | jima | has been considering gigabit pro, but it isn't in his neighborhood yet |
| 21:31.25 | TodPunk | just east of Xactware in north Lehi |
| 21:31.29 | jima | ok |
| 21:31.37 | youtah | he's by me |
| 21:31.39 | frostyfrog | youtah: I still think they are. |
| 21:31.43 | jima | so they're targetting other gigabit deployments...awesome. |
| 21:31.47 | youtah | he heard I lived there and moved next to me |
| 21:31.53 | TodPunk | all the telcos just laid fiber in the development, so we can't even do copper stuff |
| 21:32.18 | frostyfrog | No copper stuff? |
| 21:32.19 | TodPunk | I moved outside "Traverse Mountain" and have avoided their horrid HOA and the drama that ensues in the area. |
| 21:32.19 | jima | gives up on 77f cube, goes to costco & home |
| 21:32.23 | frostyfrog | Man, the pain. |
| 21:32.24 | youtah | Copper internet? That's so metal. |
| 21:32.35 | TodPunk | My neighborhood still thinks they're the bee's knees, but less so |
| 21:32.50 | youtah | We have no copper either |
| 21:32.58 | TodPunk | yeah, but you ONLY have Veracity |
| 21:33.02 | youtah | no comcast, no qwest, nada. Fiber and only Fiber |
| 21:33.06 | spangborn_ | That's because all of it is in Herriman |
| 21:33.07 | youtah | which actually sucks |
| 21:33.12 | TodPunk | (and you do have /some/ copper, in the original developments) |
| 21:33.22 | romanovic | I just want any > 100Mbps alternative to comcast, any at all |
| 21:33.25 | youtah | I am in the Original/First development |
| 21:33.55 | TodPunk | I know there's some copper around the outlets. |
| 21:34.06 | youtah | my neighborhood is 14yo |
| 21:34.09 | spangborn_ | Where at? Maybe I'll dig it up |
| 21:34.10 | TodPunk | I suppose I don't know if it's residential at all |
| 21:34.32 | TodPunk | but yeah, Veracity got exclusivity for all your internets in the entire HOA |
| 21:34.39 | youtah | those jerks |
| 21:34.40 | TodPunk | Hilarious, if you ask me |
| 21:34.50 | youtah | waits for pashdown to buy Veracity in Traverse Mountain |
| 21:34.56 | TodPunk | I doubt they even asked Xmission |
| 21:35.12 | pashdown | sorry |
| 21:35.20 | youtah | offers XMission $17.23 USD to help buy Veracity |
| 21:35.20 | TodPunk | Can you imagine Xmission being your internet with that delicious fiber? |
| 21:35.43 | youtah | wait, I found another penny. $17.24 |
| 21:35.53 | TodPunk | I've got $20 on me |
| 21:36.09 | TodPunk | Let's do this |
| 21:36.19 | youtah | pashdown we're nearly $40 |
| 21:36.35 | youtah | cries |
| 21:37.37 | frostyfrog | I'll pitch in $5 |
| 21:38.05 | spangborn_ | I'll pay $20 against you |
| 21:38.28 | youtah | we all know you don't have that kind of money to throw around |
| 21:38.50 | youtah | goes and donates plasma to pay for his Netflix subscription |
| 21:40.56 | TodPunk | This reminds me of that very frustrating bit about Veracity buying iProvo all those years ago (and still not knowing what they were doing) without Provo ever having talked to anyone else or even saying "we're going to farm this out" |
| 21:41.34 | TodPunk | One of the more obvious incompetencies I've seen if not outright corruption (I never looked into it) |
| 21:42.12 | youtah | This is why Fiber should be a municipality |
| 21:42.27 | youtah | throws in a political grenade and takes cover |
| 21:43.45 | youtah | TodPunk, did you guys lose power at home? |
| 21:43.56 | youtah | https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t35.0-12/20616164_10214179007089614_1418976095_o.jpg?oh=848cc8a198d06ca9bd437d13f70c6a8f&oe=59824FCA |
| 21:44.23 | youtah | A backhoe just severed the main powerline to Traverse Mountain |
| 21:45.25 | RyanE | ouch |
| 21:45.36 | youtah | but the internet is still working! |
| 21:45.38 | youtah | lol |
| 21:49.27 | TodPunk | youtah: nope |
| 21:53.11 | jlp_znc | relatively affordable HF radio: http://www.lowcosthamradio.com/xiegu-x-108g/ ($520) |
| 21:56.09 | spangborn_ | How fried is the guy operating the backhoe? |
| 21:56.29 | RyanE | about as much as Scaramoochi |
| 21:57.48 | spangborn_ | So dead? |
| 21:59.39 | TodPunk | I doubt they can get shocked in the driver's seat of one of those things |
| 21:59.46 | TodPunk | for one thing they're sitting in a faraday cage |
| 22:00.10 | TodPunk | but he may be out of a job if the thing was striped |
| 22:01.09 | spangborn_ | http://www.ketv.com/article/worker-electrically-shocked-in-papillion-has-died/7653420 |
| 22:01.13 | spangborn_ | It's happened |
| 22:01.40 | spangborn_ | But it was someone that got out |
| 22:01.51 | spangborn_ | So depending on his actions after severing it |
| 22:02.24 | TodPunk | Um, not the backhoe operator, someone that was working on it: "The co-worker used a shovel or some tool, came in contact with the wire," Yost said. |
| 22:04.01 | TodPunk | They were working on a sewage line too, I wonder if it was transmitted via water, perhaps? |
| 22:08.41 | youtah | Well, there is a possibility that the back hoe operator wasn't touched |
| 22:08.50 | youtah | if the bucket shorted it out |
| 22:08.57 | youtah | then it turned to goo and shorted at the bucket |
| 22:09.22 | youtah | wants to see a backhoe bucket electrically turned to goo |
| 22:09.40 | youtah | apparently the main power line runs in from up above, down by Eagle Summit |
| 22:13.52 | frostyfrog | Hmmm... |
| 22:14.10 | frostyfrog | Looking at my emails, looks like my house is just fine. |
| 22:14.22 | frostyfrog | Though I doubted I'd be affected anyways. |
| 22:18.46 | youtah | looks like they have routed an alternate route |
| 22:26.32 | frostyfrog | (Someday I'll get to fixing it so I stop recieving emails >_> http://i.imgur.com/MCszWYE.png ) |
| 22:27.05 | romanovic | https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/07/linkedin-its-illegal-to-scrape-our-website-without-permission/ |
| 22:29.25 | youtah | Hottest July on record, ever |
| 22:29.31 | youtah | (For SLC) |
| 22:30.04 | youtah | The top ten hottest July's for SLC on record, have been since 2003 |
| 22:33.09 | youtah | "but one guy said that the polar bears would die in the 80's [40 years ago] and they were wrong. Thus I will ignore thousands of scientists and decades of evidence proving the earth's climate is heating up." |
| 22:38.06 | frostyfrog | polar bears die every year |
| 22:38.13 | youtah | True story |
| 22:38.25 | youtah | http://i.imgur.com/6vkiNad.jpg |
| 22:39.06 | frostyfrog | youtah: xD That's great! |
| 22:43.24 | frostyfrog | Sent that to my younger brother. He'll love it, I'm sure. |
