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| 14:25.57 | jlp_znc | http://gizmodo.com/gop-data-firm-accidentally-leaks-personal-details-of-ne-1796211612 <- whoopsie |
| 14:46.28 | jlp_znc | youtah: I will most likely not be participating in field day this year. too much to do around the house. |
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| 15:30.16 | jlp_znc | heh, resize2fs(8) man page: Note: when kilobytes is used above, I mean real, power-of-2 kilobytes (i.e. 1024 bytes), which some politically correct folks insist shoudl be the stupid-sounding "kibibytes". The same holds true for megabytes, also sometimes known as "mebibytes", or gigabytes, as the amazingly silly "gibibytes". Makes you want to gibber, doesn't it? |
| 15:38.22 | jima | "*bibytes" makes me super stabby |
| 15:40.59 | jima | technical people: "here are the standard terms and what they mean." marketing people: "what if we...changed what they mean?" |
| 15:59.39 | jlp_znc | technical people: "shut up!" |
| 16:04.34 | manithree | marketing people: Did you hear something? |
| 16:04.58 | jlp_znc | sales people: "huh? sell it!? OKAY!" |
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| 16:39.42 | beelzebob | I don't see the kibi/kilo thing has a marketing ploy, I take it as more of a disambiguation from SI units |
| 16:43.23 | jima | uhm...we started out using SI units. |
| 16:44.03 | jima | at some point along the way, someone decided "oh, it'd sound like more if we divided by 1000 instead of 1024." |
| 16:44.23 | beelzebob | I guess it is more about base disambiguation. You could easily say that when you're dealing with bytes you should assume base 2 |
| 16:45.02 | jima | derp, SI in terms of metric, gotcha |
| 16:45.05 | romanovic | that was weird. I drove to work with google maps navigation on, and the entire way it reported my position ~30 meters to the east |
| 16:45.12 | beelzebob | but SI is base 10... I don't think I'll be using the bibi anyhow |
| 16:46.29 | beelzebob | I suppose you could also argue that SI being base 10 is an anachronism, and it should assume the base of the unit... |
| 16:47.52 | jima | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilobyte :-\ |
| 16:49.03 | TodPunk | Something something bieber |
| 16:49.13 | beelzebob | it will be a hard road to get people to change that usage |
| 16:50.10 | jima | also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigabyte#Consumer_confusion |
| 16:51.08 | beelzebob | No doubt marketing played a hand |
| 16:52.15 | beelzebob | I'm curious if the bibis caught on, would marketing materials opt to use them over the larger sounding ilo/ega/iga? |
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| 16:53.32 | aeryndunham | Afternoon, all! |
| 16:55.13 | frostyfrog | aeryndunham: Good afternoon (Well, morning here, but afternoon there :) ) |
| 16:55.17 | eightyeight | still morning |
| 16:55.26 | eightyeight | for 65 more minutes |
| 16:55.33 | aeryndunham | How are you all? |
| 16:56.06 | frostyfrog | beelzebob: I'm with you. Gigabyte is 1024 Megabytes 4life! |
| 16:56.15 | frostyfrog | Doing well. |
| 16:57.30 | beelzebob | frostyfrog: eh, I'm not taking a stand... I'm a curious observer only for now |
| 16:57.49 | frostyfrog | :p |
| 16:59.04 | beelzebob | I'd like to imagine a world where large capacity hard drives would give acurate descriptions of size, but I don't know if I want that world to be one where tebibytes is used |
| 16:59.40 | frostyfrog | grew up on the JEDEC definition of data sizes and will always think about them as such. |
| 17:03.21 | aeryndunham | I'm having fun CSS woes today |
| 17:04.07 | jima | beelzebob: no, they wouldn't...the SI notation are bigger numbers. |
| 17:06.41 | beelzebob | that is what I would assume as well. But there could come a point where that would be counterproductive, if the SI notation became rare enough |
| 17:06.53 | beelzebob | accepting bets now |
| 17:08.36 | frostyfrog | aeryndunham: What's it today? |
| 17:08.39 | youtah | ~nachos |
| 17:08.40 | infobot | schweet. |
| 17:08.42 | youtah | ~youtah |
| 17:08.42 | infobot | Mmmm Bacon |
| 17:08.47 | youtah | lol |
| 17:08.49 | youtah | hah |
| 17:08.50 | youtah | heh |
| 17:08.50 | frostyfrog | Heya youtah :) |
| 17:08.53 | youtah | :-) |
| 17:08.57 | youtah | ~lolstats |
| 17:08.58 | infobot | total count of lol on #utah: 2516. Top 3: youtah -- 1188 (47.2%), keldwud -- 127 (5.0%), SunSparc -- 75 (3.0%) |
| 17:09.10 | aeryndunham | frostyfrog: Oh, apparently display: inline is asking too much :p |
| 17:09.16 | youtah | Howdy frostyfrog... you watch that CQ video I posted? |
| 17:09.29 | aeryndunham | no big deal, I'll figure something out |
| 17:09.35 | frostyfrog | youtah: Not yet. Planning on it though. |
| 17:09.45 | youtah | it's 20 minutes... sorry. |
| 17:09.52 | youtah | but I do feel like it's kind of critical |
| 17:09.53 | frostyfrog | aeryndunham: That depends on what you're trying to achieve... |
| 17:10.00 | frostyfrog | nods to youtah |
| 17:12.08 | aeryndunham | I think having .svgs is messing it up somehow? I only need 3 dang icons but fontawesome didn't have one |
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| 18:06.06 | youtah | I do not think that peanut M&M's and Beef Jerky was a good idea for a lunch |
| 18:08.55 | TodPunk | I would have stuck with normal M&Ms or maybe peanut butter M&Ms |
| 18:12.05 | spangborn_ | Truth |
| 18:12.10 | spangborn_ | Peanut butter M&M's > * |
| 18:13.59 | youtah | spangborn_, is that * or .*? |
| 18:14.18 | spangborn_ | lol |
| 18:14.19 | youtah | or ^.8?\? |
| 18:14.21 | spangborn_ | Well it's not a regex |
| 18:14.22 | youtah | oops |
| 18:14.26 | youtah | or ^.*?\? |
| 18:15.52 | youtah | because spangborn_ couldn't be Peanut butter M&M's also be fall under the *? Thus Peanut butter M&M's are > Peanut butter M&M's? |
| 18:16.07 | spangborn_ | Well in that case it's a quantity comparison |
| 18:16.11 | youtah | raises an exception |
| 18:16.26 | spangborn_ | And some peanut M&Ms are better than others |
| 18:16.41 | spangborn_ | Like you wouldn't be eating Peanut butter M&Ms from 1980 |
| 18:16.43 | youtah | like the yellow ones... seriously, who wants Yellow M&M's when you could have the green ones |
| 18:16.50 | spangborn_ | Brown ones are the best |
| 18:16.58 | spangborn_ | Because no unnatural food coloring duh |
| 18:17.00 | youtah | Actually, save the green ones and give them to the Mrs. |
| 18:17.00 | spangborn_ | /s |
| 18:17.17 | youtah | or Miss |
| 18:17.19 | youtah | or Mr |
| 18:17.30 | youtah | Whatever floats your boat |
| 18:17.34 | youtah | doesn't judge |
| 18:18.13 | youtah | actually, that's not true... I am very very judgmental of the people who have their gas tank on the left, and pull into a gas pump with the nozzle on the right. |
| 18:30.17 | youtah | https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/19225884_10213616607553729_756874110721336055_n.jpg?oh=fbfe4d1aa40f78172907d7508eb3e49a&oe=599BADB5 |
| 18:30.23 | youtah | Like that ^^^ |
| 18:35.30 | Migs | lulz |
| 18:35.37 | Migs | I hate those people |
| 18:53.05 | youtah | m etoo |
| 18:53.07 | youtah | me too |
| 18:53.11 | youtah | you should see my FB post on it |
| 18:53.20 | youtah | I have dozens of people defending their actions |
| 18:57.38 | youtah | http://imgur.com/gallery/2Mizm |
| 19:13.55 | frostyfrog | youtah: Re: FB post. Just because it works, doesn't mean it should. It messes with people's OCD. :p |
| 19:14.16 | frostyfrog | should've commented that, now that they think about it... |
| 19:15.32 | manithree | youtah: I'm supposed to ignore all those unused backwards gas pumps at Costco and keep waiting for the Murican ones? |
| 19:17.09 | youtah | it's amazing |
| 19:17.18 | youtah | I am making the interwebs explode |
| 19:17.51 | youtah | manithree, it's all of you backward pump people causing the delays. If everyone chose the correct side to begin with... ;) |
| 19:18.12 | manithree | Uh huh, right. |
| 19:18.18 | youtah | "how me a study that says it doesn't matter and I will then believe you. Other wise, my own experience tells me that I get through the costco line a lot faster..." |
| 19:18.18 | youtah | This is what one person posted |
| 19:18.34 | youtah | I replied "You want me to show you a study while you yourself gets to use anecdotal evidence?" |
| 19:20.08 | manithree | I prefer the correct side, but I'm not sitting in line waiting for one while there are unused pumps for them dang furrin cars |
| 19:20.56 | youtah | I wonder how many Japanese cars there are in comparison to US vehicles on the road |
| 19:21.05 | youtah | I enjoy having the gas tank on the right side of the car |
| 19:21.19 | youtah | "my" lines seem to always be shorter |
| 19:21.27 | youtah | so keep your GMC on the other side of the pump |
| 19:22.38 | manithree | My Japanese cars are both on the left side. I usually see VWs and BMWs with their backwards fuel tanks. Blame Europe! |
| 19:22.53 | youtah | Wait, which manufacture? |
| 19:22.59 | youtah | My Subie is on the right |
| 19:23.09 | youtah | LOL blame Europe |
| 19:23.16 | manithree | Mazda and Toyota |
| 19:23.26 | manithree | actually, 2 Toyotas |
| 19:23.40 | youtah | I actually think my Honda might be left |
| 19:23.45 | manithree | But the Mazda is a 1999, so the body was mostly made by Ford |
| 19:23.46 | youtah | but I never drive it |
| 19:24.27 | youtah | makes a note to always buy cars with the gas tank on the right to always get shorter lines at costco in the future |
| 19:25.13 | manithree | Too late. Costco employees showing the unwashed masses that there gas hoses are long enough that it doesn't matter which side you use have ruined it for you. |
| 19:25.20 | manithree | their |
| 19:25.31 | straya | It's ok they don't sell diesel so who cares |
| 19:25.50 | manithree | Man, I hate diesel drivers ;-) |
| 19:26.55 | straya | But you don't hate all the stuff they bring you ;) |
| 19:27.15 | manithree | I actually did almost lose my lane in a black cloud from a pickup right in front of me yesterday. |
| 19:27.16 | youtah | like delicious foods |
| 19:27.18 | youtah | and electronics |
| 19:27.33 | manithree | I only hate diesel pickup and sedan drivers, not real truckers. |
| 19:27.54 | straya | I drive a diesel pickup, it's a farm truck that hauls trailers more often than not |
| 19:27.55 | manithree | And diesel motorcycles |
| 19:28.03 | straya | Don't hate man |
| 19:28.15 | manithree | Haters gonna hate |
| 19:28.34 | straya | I don't smoke black though |
| 19:28.42 | straya | Only puff a little under huge loaf |
| 19:28.57 | manithree | You're one of the good ones, then. |
| 19:29.45 | straya | I've intentionally built my truck to smoke as little as possible lol |
| 19:30.09 | manithree | Good, it's an expensive habit |
| 19:30.11 | straya | But it's unavoidably if I'm lugging 15k lbs |
| 19:30.24 | straya | But then you're looking at the back of a stock trailer anyways so.... |
| 19:31.34 | straya | youtah: how about if I'm in a car so small that it doesn't matter what side my tank is on and it reaches anyways |
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| 20:03.50 | youtah | straya, rear entry huh? |
| 20:04.07 | youtah | http://i.imgur.com/dr4YkU3.gifv |
| 20:05.42 | youtah | interesting, apparently the safer location for fuel tanks is in front of the read axle |
| 20:05.44 | youtah | rear |
| 20:06.16 | youtah | According to Byron Clock, autosafetyexpert.com from http://www.ibtimes.com/fiat-chrysler-recalls-here-are-ram-dodge-chrysler-trucks-suvs-fca-will-buy-back-2026048 |
| 20:23.20 | SunSparc | Any AWS CloudFront/CORS experts in here? https://serverfault.com/q/856904/105379 |
| 20:24.37 | Migs | ugh, CORS errors |
| 20:24.42 | straya | good luck SunSparc |
| 20:24.47 | SunSparc | lol, thans :D |
| 20:24.54 | SunSparc | thanks even |
| 20:24.58 | Migs | you're in our thoughts and prayers |
| 20:25.08 | SunSparc | haha |
| 20:25.16 | SunSparc | Good old CORS. |
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| 21:28.18 | jima | youtah: did the auto industry learn NOTHING from the ford pinto?? |
| 21:29.19 | programmerq | relevant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9GGDOUDLhc |
| 21:30.20 | jima | doesn't youtube at work |
| 21:30.23 | jima | is it top secret!? |
| 21:30.32 | jima | ...'top secret!' ? |
| 21:33.24 | eightyeight | is it secret? is it safe? |
| 21:33.51 | jlp_znc | what is the frequency, Kenneth? |
| 21:42.47 | youtah | lol programmerq |
