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| 03:50.16 | romanovic | wow, I wish I had been paid $16-18 at my job at the U of U, like youtah's posting |
| 03:50.53 | romanovic | I think mine was $10/hr, part time web development, wasn't even a student job. |
| 03:52.44 | romanovic | but it did kick start subsequent jobs in later years paying salaries in line with the local developer market, so I'm grateful for the experience. |
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| 14:13.57 | jima | my first IT job started at $10/hr |
| 14:14.41 | jima | i feel kind of old saying that. :- |
| 14:14.43 | jima | :-\ |
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| 14:39.54 | straya | its ok, mine did too |
| 14:55.28 | unum | I think mine may have been under $6 |
| 14:55.56 | unum | I think I was at $6.30 for years before moving up to $10 |
| 15:02.32 | spangborn | Mine was $8 |
| 15:02.42 | spangborn | But I also got to do homework while working |
| 15:02.45 | spangborn | So it evened out |
| 15:16.32 | jima | yeesh, i hope that was a long time ago, because one of my last non-IT jobs paid like $6.75/hr |
| 15:16.39 | jima | (in 1999/2000) |
| 15:18.03 | spangborn | It was a University job |
| 15:18.14 | spangborn | I was technically hired as a "library aide" but basically was doing web development |
| 15:19.22 | jima | oh, i had a library aide job in like...1996? i think it paid $4/hr though. |
| 15:25.10 | aeryndunham | I volunteered in a library in high school and stayed after my required service hours were done (was a high school requirement) and I never convinced them to pay me |
| 15:25.14 | aeryndunham | and yet I stayed for years :p |
| 15:25.36 | jima | i also volunteered at my county library in a similar fashion. |
| 15:27.48 | aeryndunham | I did eventually get lazy though; I'd be off in some corner shelf reading and I'd end up just taking a book off the shelf |
| 15:31.44 | aeryndunham | I was also on a personal crusade at the library to get them to change the way their summer reading challenge for kids worked - they based it per book read, not per page, so 6 year olds were killing it and the older kids couldn't get past the first level unless they stopped reading chapter books |
| 15:31.50 | aeryndunham | I never succeeded :P |
| 15:32.21 | jima | ugh, that's lame |
| 15:33.35 | spangborn | Library job was good for doing homework and that's about it |
| 15:33.39 | spangborn | Everything else about the job sucked |
| 15:33.47 | aeryndunham | I didn't get to do homework at mine |
| 15:33.48 | spangborn | I also had a stalker around that time |
| 15:33.50 | aeryndunham | I like libraries though |
| 15:33.56 | spangborn | Who would send me anonymous messages |
| 15:34.00 | aeryndunham | The library was probably my favorite thing about living in SLC |
| 15:34.05 | spangborn | and had like gone as far as following me home |
| 15:34.10 | aeryndunham | yikes |
| 15:34.21 | spangborn | Some girl, who had a boyfriend, but wanted to pursue a relationship |
| 15:34.23 | spangborn | It was awkward af |
| 15:34.33 | jima | wow |
| 15:35.10 | aeryndunham | eyyyy my monitor has been delivered |
| 15:35.16 | aeryndunham | part #1 has arrived |
| 15:36.21 | manithree | My first semi-IT job was $4.50/hr. Officially stock/mail room, but I did some BASIC and dBase II. |
| 15:36.27 | spangborn | dbase, dang |
| 15:36.49 | manithree | 1984-85 |
| 15:36.52 | jima | "part #1 has arrived" that's in the running for worst pick-up line ever |
| 15:36.55 | aeryndunham | I've never even heard of dBase :p |
| 15:37.00 | jima | aeryndunham: lucky |
| 15:40.41 | aeryndunham | I don't want to keep bothering my friend who is helping me at Carnival but damn I need a job |
| 15:41.15 | aeryndunham | and naturally the web search for "basically entry level IT job I can do from my apartment because aeryndunham can't drive" isn't going very well :P |
| 15:46.24 | jima | ugh |
| 15:46.35 | jima | yeah, the not-driving thing sounds problematic. |
| 15:47.03 | aeryndunham | And I'm working on that |
| 15:47.06 | aeryndunham | but it's not happening fast enough |
| 15:47.18 | aeryndunham | Which is why Carnival is so ideal; I can see the office from here |
| 15:47.40 | jima | you're...where? miami? |
| 15:47.50 | aeryndunham | Yeah, a suburb of |
| 15:48.18 | jima | i'd suggest an employer but i don't think i hate you |
| 15:48.20 | aeryndunham | And lots of websites seem to think that when I type "remote" I mean "I'm willing to relocate to China/Jamaica/Pakistan" |
| 15:48.23 | aeryndunham | hahaha |
| 15:48.51 | jima | (my employer's ostensible hq is in miami beach) |
| 15:49.05 | aeryndunham | Aahh, I'm like a 40 min drive from Miami Beach |
| 15:49.18 | jima | never mind then, i really don't hate you that much |
| 15:49.51 | aeryndunham | I have no real reason to think that the BA job at Carnival is not happening, I'm just getting nervous as no one has even contacted me yet, despite my friend telling me that they will |
| 15:50.54 | aeryndunham | And I turned down a job from my old boss 'cause it'd be 60-70% travel |
| 15:50.57 | aeryndunham | and ugh, no |
| 15:51.48 | aeryndunham | So if anyone out there is hiring someone who can work from home in a very basic web dev or linux type job.... :p |
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| 16:37.58 | youtah | ~NACHOS |
| 16:37.58 | infobot | schweet. |
| 16:38.26 | youtah | Nasa runs competition to help make old Fortran code faster http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-39803425?ocid=socialflow_facebook |
| 16:46.08 | romanovic | aeryndunham: what job sites have you used to look through remote job listings? I put a bunch in my RSS reader during a previous job search. There were a couple that turned up a lot of quality postings |
| 16:46.24 | romanovic | at various skill levels |
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| 16:47.08 | romanovic | www.weworkremotely.com - every listing is remote, and it's not just software engineer jobs |
| 16:47.59 | aeryndunham | romanovic, Ah, I hadn't found been looking at remote-speficic sites, just where 'remote' could be chosen as an option |
| 16:48.05 | romanovic | and there's always http://stackoverflow.com/jobs with the "offers remote" setting enabled |
| 17:09.33 | youtah | ~youtah |
| 17:09.34 | infobot | Mmmm Bacon |
| 17:12.54 | romanovic | ~bacon |
| 17:12.54 | infobot | bacon is, like, a filling substance which will make you even fatter than you already are... Take my advice, bacon is a food for the gods or for underweight models such as that McBeal chick... |
| 17:13.20 | romanovic | ~isitlunchtimeyet |
| 17:24.22 | aeryndunham | either amazon is lying to me or the office downstairs is lying to me |
| 17:25.30 | spangborn | Why not both |
| 17:25.35 | aeryndunham | I guess possible |
| 17:25.55 | spangborn | Spotify's Throwback Thursday playlist is putting me back in the 90s |
| 17:26.04 | spangborn | Nirvana, RHCP, Bush, Incubus, Foo Fighters |
| 17:26.43 | aeryndunham | When Spotify puts me in the 90s it's all Spice Girls and Backstreet Boys :p |
| 17:52.02 | TodPunk | eightyeight: you are a troll and your facebook threads are hilarious to watch unfold |
| 18:06.39 | jima | whaaa? i'm missing quality trolling? |
| 18:22.33 | klys | aeryndunham, does amazon say your package is delivered? have you checked the tracking number to make sure it was delivered to your location? |
| 18:23.24 | klys | the reason I bring this up is that it happened to me yesterday that a package was "delivered," to a post office local to the seller. |
| 18:24.21 | aeryndunham | It says it was handed to someone at a front desk |
| 18:24.24 | klys | so I notified ebay.com after attempting to contact the seller, and was told I am eligible for a refund if the seller refuses to ship. |
| 19:06.12 | eightyeight | TodPunk: heh |
| 19:06.30 | eightyeight | the intent wasn't to troll. the link honestly shocked me |
| 19:07.05 | eightyeight | but, not surprisingly i guess, the discussion turned to "why do you hate the church so much" and "don't watch porn" |
| 19:07.13 | eightyeight | while completely avoiding what the study is _actually_ saying |
| 19:07.57 | eightyeight | which is that religion can actually be harmful on its adherents |
| 19:08.04 | eightyeight | but no one wants to discuss that, it seems |
| 19:08.07 | eightyeight | shrug |
| 19:10.34 | frostyfrog | Of course it can be, doesn't mean it is though :p |
| 19:10.51 | frostyfrog | Sounds to me like people responded the way they do on KSL. |
| 19:11.14 | TodPunk | this /is/ Utah |
| 19:11.55 | TodPunk | Pro tip: skip ahead to the part where you realize you can't teach anyone a damn thing and just accept their chosen brand of stupidity. (Irony, it is present) |
| 19:38.21 | jima | i like my brand of stupidity |
| 19:45.47 | spangborn | I just found out Enve Composite's MySQL DB password lol |
| 19:45.58 | spangborn | waves at their Ogden office |
| 19:49.28 | frostyfrog | Through the window, eh? |
| 19:49.40 | frostyfrog | Have they written down the IP yet? |
| 19:50.03 | frostyfrog | IP/Hostname* |
| 19:50.24 | jima | spangborn: wooooow |
| 19:50.35 | jima | |
| 19:50.35 | spangborn | They dumped it in a trace |
| 19:50.40 | jima | derp |
| 19:50.48 | spangborn | Their site is getting hammered and it crashed |
| 19:50.54 | spangborn | dumped the MySQL credentials |
| 19:51.14 | spangborn | I can't get a hold of anyone who works there |
| 20:00.41 | frostyfrog | OUCH! |
| 20:01.28 | spangborn | And their main website is hosted on the same physical box |
| 20:01.41 | frostyfrog | ... |
| 20:01.43 | spangborn | So I've got DB credentials for their online store as well as their website |
| 20:01.44 | spangborn | lol |
| 20:02.16 | frostyfrog | Got a nice DB structure, or is it crappily laid out? |
| 20:02.36 | spangborn | I haven't poked around to see :) |
| 20:02.39 | spangborn | I'd prefer not to go to prison |
| 20:02.40 | spangborn | lol |
| 20:02.54 | frostyfrog | :p |
| 20:03.51 | frostyfrog | didn't know what relationship you had with Enve Composite. |
| 20:05.11 | frostyfrog | Throw some paper airplanes, maybe they'll see them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HgMWCGOwRg |
| 20:05.41 | frostyfrog | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Am0MRsf5HSc better link >_> |
| 20:06.04 | spangborn | Haha, they're a cycling company I like |
| 20:06.08 | spangborn | Very expensive |
| 20:11.41 | frostyfrog | 's favorite one makes carbon fiber bikes. |
| 20:13.01 | jlp_znc | call them and ask for the IT manager |
| 20:13.17 | jlp_znc | (assuming they have one... it's probably one of the assembly guys who knows a little wordpress) |
| 20:13.26 | spangborn | They've got nobody IT on site, apparently |
| 20:13.33 | spangborn | They sent me to their marketing director, and I got a VM |
| 20:13.51 | spangborn | Left a VM and sent her a linkedin request with an explanation as to why I'm adding her out of the blue |
| 20:13.57 | jlp_znc | do they have an office manager? |
| 20:14.01 | spangborn | Also opened a support ticket |
| 20:14.14 | spangborn | brb driving to Ogden |
| 20:14.15 | spangborn | lol |
| 20:14.16 | jlp_znc | well, you've done all you can. |
| 20:14.24 | spangborn | Haha, yep |
| 20:14.30 | jlp_znc | maybe get some consulting income from them "I can fix it for you" |
| 20:14.37 | spangborn | Or some bike stuff :) |
| 20:14.40 | jlp_znc | there you go |
| 20:14.48 | jlp_znc | might as well get something you like |
| 20:15.02 | jlp_znc | besides, when you get $$, your wife takes it. :-) |
| 20:15.08 | spangborn | Also, I'm surprised their main site and their store is on the same box |
| 20:15.16 | spangborn | I don't really think that's a good idea |
| 20:15.20 | jlp_znc | "Gee, honey, I asked for money, but all they would give me is this $15000 frame for my bike" |
| 20:15.23 | spangborn | hahaha |
| 20:16.37 | jlp_znc | I just got "Error establishing a database connection", but no traceback. |
| 20:17.03 | spangborn | Yeah, they pulled their shop site |
| 20:17.13 | spangborn | It's Magento, and they're running WordPress for their main site |
| 20:17.20 | spangborn | I'd guess they've got some Magento/WP integration |
| 20:17.30 | jlp_znc | likely. |
| 20:17.38 | spangborn | Also concerning that their site isn't HTTPS |
| 20:18.02 | jlp_znc | that would be a problem for me, if they're taking online orders. no excuse for it now with let's encrypt |
| 20:23.00 | spangborn | Their checkout might be, but I can't get to it to see |
| 20:24.10 | spangborn | Their DB is also on the same box, heh |
| 20:24.15 | spangborn | What's up localhost |
| 20:24.48 | jlp_znc | curious what their firewall is like, if any. |
| 20:25.54 | spangborn | Their site is hosted by these guys, so who knows: https://www.simplehelix.com/ |