| 00:10.58 | romanovic | "you'll be moving to the new building in early April" says employer, |
| 00:11.19 | romanovic | recalls, while sitting in the old building, in the second half of April |
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| 00:20.50 | *** topic/#utah is Utah related discussion including user groups | logs @ http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/ | See also ##lds |
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| 01:37.45 | straya | rip romanovic's office |
| 03:51.19 | RyanE | heh. I was told 4 weeks ago we were moving, then 3 weeks ago, 2 weeks ago, last week, and now this week. |
| 03:51.29 | RyanE | The space is apparently now finally ready. |
| 04:37.02 | jfindlay | ~youtah youtah |
| 04:37.49 | jfindlay | ~napoleon youtah |
| 04:37.49 | infobot | ACTION makes youtah his secret service captain |
| 09:50.17 | klys | ~localization |
| 09:50.25 | klys | ~l10n |
| 09:50.26 | infobot | methinks l10n is an abbreviation for localisation, which is a long word used a lot in some circles, so it's shortened by effectively saying "L, then 10 more letters, then N", get it? |
| 09:50.37 | klys | ~slashdot |
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| 15:56.16 | jima | RyanE: congratulations, i'm sorry |
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| 16:41.21 | frostyfrog | waves good morning |
| 16:46.46 | aeryndunham | hey |
| 16:58.35 | aeryndunham | I love when you stare at an error message for 20 mins being 3000% confused and then you realize it's failing because you can't spell. |
| 16:59.52 | spangborn | lern2spel |
| 17:00.45 | aeryndunham | i know right |
| 17:02.24 | spangborn | My dogs clearly don't understand that working from home includes working |
| 17:02.34 | spangborn | I'm being groaned at because I won't go play fetch outside |
| 17:03.09 | aeryndunham | aww |
| 17:03.23 | aeryndunham | would go play with your dogs |
| 17:03.29 | aeryndunham | although I'm actually trying to work too |
| 17:05.01 | spangborn | Haha, I'm taking them to the park for a bit in half an hour |
| 17:05.06 | manithree | The vet said we can't play fetch with our border collie mix for 3 days. I don't know if any of us will survive. |
| 17:05.10 | spangborn | Hopefully before it starts pouring |
| 17:05.16 | spangborn | manithree: oh jeez, that sounds problematic |
| 17:05.35 | spangborn | Surprisingly, my border collie mix has no interest in fetch |
| 17:05.46 | spangborn | She's much more interested in food and licking your face off |
| 17:05.55 | manithree | mine LIVES for it |
| 17:06.00 | manithree | and licking my calves off |
| 17:06.05 | spangborn | my Aussie lives for fetch, though |
| 17:06.15 | spangborn | You'll be in bed, asleep, and she'll drop a ball on your face at 2AM |
| 17:06.17 | aeryndunham | None of the dogs I ever had growing up liked playing |
| 17:06.36 | jlp_znc | our chihuahua/terrier mix also loves fetch. she'll play by herself if you don't (she'll drop the ball down the stairs, then run after it) |
| 17:06.51 | spangborn | jlp_znc: If only mine were that good at entertaining themselves |
| 17:07.00 | manithree | jlp_znc: Ringo does that, but I'm not sure it's intentional |
| 17:07.07 | jlp_znc | heh |
| 17:07.09 | spangborn | Ringo is a great dog name |
| 17:08.10 | jlp_znc | https://goo.gl/photos/VDs9jXx7tCoJjc369 <- Lucy is the little brown one. |
| 17:08.38 | romanovic | my cats don't seem to like playing either, except in a devious, vindictive sense. "ok hooman, you just keep letting your spawn dogpile on me. Later I'm going to destroy some furniture, defecate on your carpet, and urinate on your clean folded laundry" |
| 17:09.43 | jlp_znc | I'm pretty sure the one doesn't have anything to do with the others, romanovic |
| 17:09.51 | jlp_znc | (based on my experience with cats) |
| 17:10.15 | jlp_znc | we have two cats. they are actually quite friendly. most days. |
| 17:10.55 | spangborn | jlp_znc: Your dogs look so cuddly |
| 17:11.26 | manithree | discovered his phone has slo-mo video after nougat update, so tried it out on the mnb: |
| 17:11.27 | manithree | https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipMolIx1rRJO5eIgYdcqxS1WvT82c3g7w179MkwIiNGtgXl5HEjS5pszEglzS4u2PQ?key=LV85QWpuUl9vUC1rMktqZkNDV2pQelhBdlJWS2ZR |
| 17:11.58 | spangborn | Haha that is fantastic |
| 17:12.00 | spangborn | Gorgeous dog :) |
| 17:12.17 | manithree | mnb=magnificent neurotic beast |
| 17:12.19 | manithree | thx |
| 17:12.25 | spangborn | lol |
| 17:12.31 | spangborn | Sounds like a border collie to me |
| 17:12.41 | jlp_znc | those are dog two and dog four, also known as Jeep and Lucy. |
| 17:12.55 | jlp_znc | not shown are dog one and dog three, Charlie and Willow |
| 17:13.55 | manithree | Our dogs one through three aren't around any more, so nobody liked the name cuatro |
| 17:14.18 | spangborn | lol I love that name |
| 17:17.33 | spangborn | And at the mention of the word "frisbee" both dogs fly up to the garage door |
| 17:18.55 | jlp_znc | dogs are pretty awesome. |
| 17:19.06 | jlp_znc | they have lived with humans for a long time. |
| 17:25.32 | romanovic | anyone else experience phantom red bull syndrome? I keep reaching for the energy drink can I finished and binned 30 min ago |
| 17:26.07 | manithree | jlp_znc: Nice looking dogs |
| 17:27.07 | jlp_znc | they have their quirks, like any living being, but life would be awfully boring without them. |
| 17:36.27 | manithree | I have enough kids that boredom is not a worry, but they love the dog so I live with my allergies |
| 17:36.30 | spangborn | I love Amazon for ordering two 30lb bags of dog food and not paying anything more for shipping |
| 17:36.48 | spangborn | (Other than my Prime membership, anyway) |
| 17:37.39 | jlp_znc | my kids are all grown up. two of them still live at home, but it's not the same as when they were young. |
| 17:37.55 | manithree | That's an Amazon Button I would keep out of the dog's reach |
| 17:41.07 | spangborn | haha |
| 17:41.15 | spangborn | Amazon keeps offering me a Dash button for it |
| 17:41.23 | spangborn | I don't really think it's necessary |
| 17:43.17 | jlp_znc | how often do you order dogfood? I generally just buy it at walmart once a month. |
| 17:46.29 | spangborn | I buy two 30lb bags about every 2-2.5 months |
| 17:47.33 | spangborn | Taste of the Wild is typically what I buy for my dogs |
| 17:53.42 | aeryndunham | ugh if I can't even make it through the django tutorial the odds of being able to write this web app are probably slim :/ |
| 17:55.06 | spangborn | Oh ye of little faith |
| 18:08.28 | aeryndunham | ls |
| 18:25.12 | unum | pictures |
| 18:25.14 | unum | documents |
| 18:25.23 | unum | share |
| 18:25.42 | spangborn | .secretfolder |
| 18:25.46 | aeryndunham | haha sorry |
| 18:25.55 | spangborn | dogphotos |
| 18:26.11 | spangborn | I love how smartass this channel is |
| 18:31.24 | aeryndunham | I'm sure I'm not the first person here to type ls or something in IRC :p |
| 18:33.04 | spangborn | Haha, I'm sure you're not |
| 18:33.09 | spangborn | I've done worse |
| 18:46.52 | unum | I think I did my password once |
| 18:50.25 | aeryndunham | needs to stop volunteering for "educational" projects she doesn't know how to start |
| 18:58.37 | jlp_znc | http://bash.org/?244321 |
| 19:00.38 | spangborn | The fun part is plugging a wireless mouse into your coworker's computer |
| 19:00.47 | spangborn | and when they go to type a password, change focus to an IM window |
| 19:03.28 | frostyfrog | Hmmm |
| 19:03.37 | frostyfrog | hamisdelish34 |
| 19:03.51 | jlp_znc | ************ |
| 19:03.57 | frostyfrog | Sweet! |
| 19:04.02 | aeryndunham | hah |
| 19:05.15 | frostyfrog | has accidently typed their password into their work's IRC server because windows was taking forever to turn on the monitors... |
| 19:07.45 | jlp_znc | have you ever come up with a really cool elegant password and thought "I would like to tell people about this because it's cool, but I can't because I'm still using it!"? |
| 19:08.07 | jlp_znc | has switched to randomly generated passwords |
| 19:08.16 | jlp_znc | I don't do the cool elegant password any more. |
| 19:08.31 | frostyfrog | I had that was "3u5lds" |
| 19:08.35 | spangborn | youtahreallyhatesbaconbutheliesaboutit42 |
| 19:08.46 | jlp_znc | :-0 |
| 19:08.56 | spangborn | Nobody saw that |
| 19:09.10 | jlp_znc | now we know spangborn's twitter password! |
| 19:09.21 | spangborn | It's okay I just changed it to a 43 |
| 19:09.22 | spangborn | Oh damnit |
| 19:09.26 | jlp_znc | :-) |
| 19:09.46 | frostyfrog | xD |
| 19:20.25 | unum | at USU there's an IT guy we recommends you use offensive passwords |
| 19:20.34 | unum | that way you'll never share |
| 19:20.57 | unum | that's why my password is IloveWindows! |
| 19:21.01 | frostyfrog | Makes the attack surface a lot smaller if you know that. |
| 19:21.06 | unum | I could never bring my self to say it outloud |
| 19:21.10 | frostyfrog | xD |
| 19:21.31 | frostyfrog | My favorite password is "idontknow" |
| 19:22.43 | frostyfrog | or "iforgotwhatiput" |
| 19:23.09 | jlp_znc | "incorrect" |
| 19:23.23 | jlp_znc | when the computer says "your password is incorrect" then you know what it is! |
| 19:23.44 | frostyfrog | What about "whyareyouaskingme" |
| 19:23.45 | jlp_znc | https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-most-famous-computer-passwords-in-history |
| 19:24.08 | unum | I forgot how much I enjoyed star craft |
| 19:24.28 | jlp_znc | http://xyzzy.com/ <- I forgot how much I enjoyed "adventure" (also known as Colossal Cave) |
| 19:25.30 | jlp_znc | but it doesn't compare to the many hours I whiled away on the school vax playing "a.out" (a copy of nethack that I had in my account) |
| 19:25.33 | Migs | https://i.redd.it/vi0efyepypsy.jpg |
| 19:25.51 | Migs | I never really figured out the maze in Colossal Cave |
| 19:26.01 | Migs | now that I know how to do it, it seems easy |
| 19:29.45 | Migs | but I don't really have the motivation to play it all over again... |
| 19:31.10 | jlp_znc | remember PLUGH? |
| 19:31.54 | jlp_znc | that was actually a debugger command on some system I used in school (I think it was the CP6 mainframe, but it might have been something on VMS |
| 19:32.07 | jlp_znc | it stood for "procedure list used to get here" and would print a stack trace. |
| 19:33.24 | frostyfrog | Just a stack trace? |
| 19:35.18 | jlp_znc | ye |
| 19:35.20 | jlp_znc | p |
| 19:35.59 | frostyfrog | Not bad :) |
| 19:36.05 | aeryndunham | fiiiiiinally finds a web framework/web app tutorial that makes sense |
| 19:36.31 | frostyfrog | congratulates aeryndunham for a successful adventure. |
| 19:36.57 | aeryndunham | also decided that Django was just TOO MUCH and is doing better with Flask |
| 19:37.15 | frostyfrog | nods. |
| 19:38.24 | jlp_znc | but, but, django is awesome! |
| 19:38.35 | eightyeight | flask ftw |
| 19:38.35 | frostyfrog | Lies! |
| 19:39.22 | aeryndunham | I think that Django might be awesome, but I'm finding Flask easier to understand what I'm doing and why |
| 19:39.25 | frostyfrog | Django's like a semi truck. I want a formula 1 race car. |
| 19:39.46 | eightyeight | django is the USS Trump |
| 19:39.49 | eightyeight | flask is a tesla |
| 19:39.54 | frostyfrog | ^ |
| 19:40.22 | aeryndunham | lol |
| 19:40.32 | eightyeight | and webpy is a unicycle |
| 19:41.50 | aeryndunham | I mean even if I figure out the basics of how to make a web app, I still think I won't be able to do this project but YOLO |
| 19:41.52 | aeryndunham | can't hurt to try |
| 19:42.44 | frostyfrog | You're in good hands, I'm sure. |
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| 20:33.38 | TodPunk | Pyramid is a finely tuned auto shop. |
| 20:53.55 | jima | y'know, it should surprise me that i was sent to the executive floor to deal with an issue for another business unit that's much larger than mine, but i really don't have it in me. :-\ |
| 20:58.58 | aeryndunham | aaaaand I'm having a full blown anxiety attack |
| 20:59.02 | aeryndunham | wants to go live in a cave forever |
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| 21:45.34 | romanovic | aeryndunham: going into cave mode is sometimes helpful. unexpected anxiety attack or caused by something? |
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| 21:53.25 | aeryndunham | dies |
| 21:54.14 | jlp_znc | aeryndunham: what's up? anything we can help with? |
| 21:54.48 | aeryndunham | just job stuff |
| 21:54.58 | aeryndunham | and my inability to function as an adult |
| 21:56.18 | aeryndunham | my old bosses from ships are still trying really hard to recruit me into their shoreside deparment, which is *initially* a job I had agreed to, when they told me it would be Miami based, now they're saying it's like 50% travel, which I just don't want anymore, and I also really don't like them so I don't want to work for them |
| 21:56.29 | aeryndunham | the business analyst job is still kind of in works but not a guarantee |
| 21:56.54 | aeryndunham | so I feel like a freak for turning this job down because like, money doesn't grow on trees, right? but I just don't want that job |
| 21:57.07 | aeryndunham | they made me call them today, and phone calls are hard |
| 22:03.17 | frostyfrog | Call them at 11:59? (No, don't. That's really rude.) |
| 22:03.27 | frostyfrog | 23:59 in military |
| 22:04.17 | aeryndunham | phone call already happened |
| 22:05.01 | aeryndunham | I just feel like I'm deluding myself into thinking that eitehr this BA job will pull through or that I'll ever know enough to get the kind of job I really want |
| 22:08.44 | SunSparc | aeryndunham: Just keep swimming. :) |
| 22:10.01 | aeryndunham | sorry |
| 22:11.30 | jlp_znc | call your friend about that one job and advise them that you really really need something to happen soon or you're not going to be available (you'll have to take something else) |
| 22:11.38 | jlp_znc | but that you really really want it |
| 22:12.09 | aeryndunham | she knows |
| 22:12.18 | jlp_znc | never hurts to remind her |
| 22:12.24 | aeryndunham | Just spoke to her today |
| 22:12.34 | jlp_znc | throw some more reallys in there |
| 22:13.05 | aeryndunham | She said those new jobs should be available start of May, and that's fine, if I know a job is coming in May or even June I'm not going to starve to death, I just... need to know |
| 22:18.39 | unum | if you could do web apps you could always pick up contract work |
| 22:18.54 | unum | even people who can do wordpress seem to be able to pick up plenty of contract work |
| 22:19.11 | aeryndunham | I'm working on that |
| 22:19.40 | jlp_znc | https://www.freelancer.com/ <- worth a look |
| 22:19.41 | aeryndunham | that's what I would ultimately like to do with my life, web dev, or something. If I could do whatever I wanted, I mean. I'm not qualified. |
| 22:19.55 | jlp_znc | qualified schmalified |
| 22:22.38 | unum | come to openwest :) |
| 22:25.15 | aeryndunham | if I were anywhere in the area, I totally would |
| 22:25.40 | unum | I'm sure have some conferences there as well |
| 22:25.45 | unum | I find them very helpful |
| 22:26.02 | unum | I know there is sunshinephp, but you're not going that route |
| 22:27.33 | frostyfrog | aeryndunham: Why would you have to come herer for OpenWest? |
| 22:27.45 | frostyfrog | They opload the videos online, IIRC |
| 22:27.54 | frostyfrog | s/opload/upload/ |
| 22:28.08 | frostyfrog | but you didn't hear that from me >_> |
| 22:29.12 | aeryndunham | aww lol someone on freelancer wants a website for their minecraft sercer |
| 22:29.17 | frostyfrog | https://www.youtube.com/user/utahopensource |
| 22:29.18 | aeryndunham | s/sercer/server |
| 22:30.29 | frostyfrog | Umm... Hey fozzmoo, is there a new youtube channel for OpenWest? |
| 22:39.56 | unum | there was |
| 22:41.16 | unum | https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0wbcfzV-bHhABbWGXKHwdg |
| 22:41.38 | unum | I guess it's all under UTOS |
| 22:52.21 | frostyfrog | Bleh, that URL is ugly :( |
| 22:56.16 | aeryndunham | dammit this tutorial was going so well |
| 23:02.46 | spangborn | aeryndunham: Take a break :) |
| 23:02.48 | spangborn | You'll get it |
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| 23:39.55 | unum | anyone going to uphpu tonight? |
| 23:39.59 | unum | free pizza!!!! |
| 23:47.45 | unum | oh ya it's after 5 |
